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Sunday, May 19, 2013

Hal Steinbrenner calls tickets ‘affordable’

(espn.go.com)

posted 9 hours ago by Repoz to business, yankees | 15 comment(s)

Qu’ils mangent de la bukkake!

Hal Steinbrenner spoke at Yankee Stadium on Saturday. He disagreed with the assessment that tickets are overpriced in the Bronx. This is different point of view than what I generally hear from fans. This is what Hal had to say about ticket prices being too high:

“You hear about that in the media,” Steinbrenner said. “You don’t hear that there are thousands and thousands of affordable seats in the $25 range for every game, not to mention the specials that we ...

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101. Drew (Primakov, Gungho Iguanas) posted on July 23, 2012 at 07:47 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

FWIW, .716 OPS away from Safeco.

102. TVerik posted on July 23, 2012 at 07:48 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

It was through the translator, of course, but that's the best I can remember it. He definitely said "useless questions like that".

Also, in response to another one, he told the crowd that he didn't have a response, so he wanted to "cancel the question."

103. tshipman

posted on July 23, 2012 at 07:50 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

That's a kabuki question, bro.

Very nicely done.

104. Shooty is in the Trust Tree

posted on July 23, 2012 at 07:54 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

That's a kabuki question, bro.

Better than a bukkake question.

105. PepTech posted on July 23, 2012 at 07:57 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

As one of the few who actually knows what that means, shame on you, Shooty. Hee hee.

106. Walt Davis posted on July 23, 2012 at 08:00 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

I've seen it a few times the last few years, where does the "Girardi doesn't have the guts to move Jeter out of the leadoff spot" stuff come from. Moving Jeter to #9 would be one thing but Jeter has more career PA in the #2 spot than the #1 spot and he had 35 starts in the #2 spot just last year. And there's no way Jeter would gripe about batting behind a legend like Ichiro.

Regarding #87 ... probably a record but kinda fewer than I thought. Ichiro, Jeter and ARod are the only ones over 2000 hits. Jones is at 1920 and both Tex and Ibanez are over 1500. Chavez and Cano are just short of 1400. I know he's a low BA hitter but I would have thought Andruw was over 2000 by now with all that playing time and that maybe Ibanez would be too (although I knew he got a late start).

Still, they could in theory field a lineup where, other than C (Martin with 778 ain't bad), the lowest number of hits would be Chavez with 1360. Granted the high-hit OF of Ibanez/Jones/Ichiro could easily give up 3000 hits in one game.

107. The Long Arm of Rudy Law posted on July 23, 2012 at 08:01 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

As one of the few who actually knows what that means, shame on you, Shooty. Hee hee.

I'd bet the percentage of Primates who know what bukkake means is only slightly lower than the percentage who know what, say, OPS+ means.

108. Yeaarrgghhhh posted on July 23, 2012 at 08:01 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

That's a kabuki question, bro.

Excellent.

109. The Yankee Clapper posted on July 23, 2012 at 08:02 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Ichiro batting 8th tonight:

Derek Jeter SS
Curtis Granderson CF
Alex Rodriguez 3B
Robinson Cano 2B
Mark Teixeira 1B
Raul Ibanez DH
Andruw Jones LF
Ichiro Suzuki RF
Russell Martin C

110. PASTE Thinks This Trout Kid Might Be OK (Zeth) posted on July 23, 2012 at 08:07 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Assuming it's accurately reported that Ichiro! requested the trade, it's possible the Yankees told him he'd have to be OK with batting at the bottom of the order (and possibly sitting frequently against lefties or something) before they'd go ahead with it.

111. JoMo the master pitch framer posted on July 23, 2012 at 08:08 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

1928 A's had by the end of the season:

Cobb 4189
Speaker 3514
Collins 3314

I didn't bother adding up the other guys, but I think they have to give the Yanks a run for their money.

112. Srul Itza posted on July 23, 2012 at 08:16 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

I do not see an Ichiro renaissance in New York.

I do not see how he is an upgrade any where.

It really smells like a classic Steinbrenner move -- Lose 4 games in a row and then PANIC!

This will not end well.

Has Cashman said anything about this yet?

113. The District Attorney posted on July 23, 2012 at 08:18 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Has Cashman said anything about this yet?

Cashman/Ichiro objective-pipe-fueled exchanges could be amazing.

A Hardball Talk commenter says Ichiro will in fact wear #51, which I think many assumed was (probably still is, I dunno) scheduled to be retired.

114. TVerik posted on July 23, 2012 at 08:23 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

I see the downside of this as the Ivan Rodriguez/Yankee experiment. I don't see why not. And I don't think that a 6.5 game (over the Orioles) lead before the trade deadline qualifies as PANIC.

115. Gamingboy posted on July 23, 2012 at 08:24 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

This is just the Yankees being the Yankees. On the bright side, Ichiro now will be facing the New York media. Expect awesome quotes to increase greatly.

116. TomH posted on July 23, 2012 at 08:28 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

I thought to meself, 4-to-1 this is a bogus headline.
Me wrong!

117. The John Wetland Memorial Death (CoB) posted on July 23, 2012 at 08:30 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

I see the downside of this as the Ivan Rodriguez/Yankee experiment.

He'll make a throw that causes our best pitcher to injure himself in getting out of the way?

118. Kurt posted on July 23, 2012 at 08:30 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

The 1985 Reds, in addition to Rose, had Tony Perez with about 2600 hits, Cesar Cedeno, Buddy Bell and Dave Concepcion with about 2000 each, and Dave Parker with about 1800.

119. Ephus posted on July 23, 2012 at 08:32 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Wally Matthews is reporting that Ichiro will not wear #51:

What number will he wear?: It won't be 51. Without mentioning the name of Bernie Williams, Ichiro said he knew how much the number meant to the Yankees and would ask for something else.

Good move, if he wants to get on the good side of the Bleacher Creatures.

120. The Yankee Clapper posted on July 23, 2012 at 08:47 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

1928 A's had by the end of the season:

Cobb 4189
Speaker 3514
Collins 3314

I didn't bother adding up the other guys, but I think they have to give the Yanks a run for their money.

I'd forgotten the late career Cobb - Speaker overlap, which would be tough to beat, although with the DH, the Yanks might be able to field a line-up with more career hits than one has seen in a while. These totals would, of course, go up as the season goes on:

Jeter 3211
A-Rod 2869
Ichiro 2533
Jones 1920
Ibanez 1850
Teixeira 1553
Cano 1381
Grandy 1060
Martin. 778

121. vortex of dissipation posted on July 23, 2012 at 08:48 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

What number will he wear?: It won't be 51. Without mentioning the name of Bernie Williams, Ichiro said he knew how much the number meant to the Yankees and would ask for something else.

He should wear #41.

122. Crispix Attacks 2: Swag Airlines posted on July 23, 2012 at 08:52 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

I really hate the ####### Yankees. Of course Ichiro's hitting .330 the rest of the summer. Vegas probably won't even take odds on that.

This is exactly how I reacted when the Tigers sent Ivan Rodriguez to the Yankees. Why do the Yankees get to trade absolutely nothing for an admittedly past-his-prime superstar? He probably told them the Yankees were the only team he'd go to in a trade, the traitorous bastard.

Of course he then hit .219/.257/.323 in New York in front of an crowd infuriated that its team was going to miss the playoffs because of a rotation including Darrell Rasner and Sidney Ponson, and their deadline acquisitions had been Xavier Nady, Damaso Marte, Richie Sexson and this over-the-hill Rodriguez guy who wasn't even an improvement on Chad Moeller.

123. JE (Jason Epstein)

posted on July 23, 2012 at 08:58 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

I've seen it a few times the last few years, where does the "Girardi doesn't have the guts to move Jeter out of the leadoff spot" stuff come from. Moving Jeter to #9 would be one thing but Jeter has more career PA in the #2 spot than the #1 spot and he had 35 starts in the #2 spot just last year. And there's no way Jeter would gripe about batting behind a legend like Ichiro.

Just as Ichiro won't wear no. 51, Walt, it is very unlikely that he will bat ahead of Jeter anytime soon. (Hell, even Ron Washington didn't have the balls to bat His Holiness down in the order for the All-Star Game.)

124. Ivan Grushenko of Hong Kong posted on July 23, 2012 at 09:01 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

He should wear #41.

The year the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

125. vortex of dissipation posted on July 23, 2012 at 09:04 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

The year the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

The number Randy Johnson (who also wore #51 with the Mariners) wore with the Yankees.

126. Brian C posted on July 23, 2012 at 09:07 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

I'm a little confused about the need to move Jeter from the leadoff spot? He seems like a perfectly cromulent leadoff guy, even in the context of the Yankees lineup. He's even one of the team's best basestealers (not saying much).

Certainly he's a better guy for the job than Ichiro. Far from not having the balls to move him, I'd say that Girardi has the good sense not to stir up that hornet's nest in pursuit of extremely nebulous benefits.

127. cercopithecus aethiops posted on July 23, 2012 at 09:08 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

The only Yankee regular with a higher OBP than Jeter is Cano. Just who do y'all think should be batting lead-off, especially considering that the only reason we're having this thread is Gardner missing the whole season?

128. Walt Davis posted on July 23, 2012 at 09:22 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Just as Ichiro won't wear no. 51, Walt, it is very unlikely that he will bat ahead of Jeter anytime soon.

Why not? Why is Jeter a sainted leadoff hitter? He has spent MOST of his career in the #2 spot and it's not particularly close. He started 35 games last year batting #2 and the world didn't end. In fact in 9 of their first 11 games in 2011, he batted 2nd. He was moved back into the #2 spot for every start he had vs RHP from 21 July to 4 Sept. He batted 2nd on Sept 21 and 25. You can bat Jeter behind Brett Gardner but you can't bat him behind Ichiro?

Note, Girardi might be smart enough not to bat Ichiro at the top of the lineup but that's a far different thing from him being scared to for some stupid reason imagined by some Yankee watchers.

129. Srul Itza posted on July 23, 2012 at 09:25 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Why not? Why is Jeter a sainted leadoff hitter? ... You can bat Jeter behind Brett Gardner but you can't bat him behind Ichiro?

You seem to be missing the point. It is that you can't, but that you shouldn't.

As note above, who makes more sense, right now, in the lead off spot than Jeter?

130. JE (Jason Epstein)

posted on July 23, 2012 at 09:26 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

FWIW, Jeter has a pretty meh .330 OBP against RHP, but that still beats Ichiro's .318.

131. Ron J posted on July 23, 2012 at 09:28 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

What number will he wear?: It won't be 51. Without mentioning the name of Bernie Williams, Ichiro said he knew how much the number meant to the Yankees and would ask for something else.

Nobody has worn #3 for a while and it's mot like handing out Cliff Mapes' number would be controversial.

132. The Yankee Clapper posted on July 23, 2012 at 09:34 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Ichiro will wear #31.

133. Ephus posted on July 23, 2012 at 09:37 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Ichiro will wear #31.

Somewhere (and it is probably really hot) George Steinbrenner is smiling. Take that, Dave Winfield.

134. Lassus posted on July 23, 2012 at 09:38 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Sooo..... what are the boos like tonight in Seattle, I wonder? This is a weird situation, there's like no time to kind of accept it and give it a week or three while he's out of town.

135. bond1 posted on July 23, 2012 at 09:39 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Wouldn't it be amazing if Ichiro recreated himself into a deadpull homerun hitter at Yankee stadium?

136. Voros McCracken of Pinkus posted on July 23, 2012 at 09:40 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Ichiro's number should just be an exclamation point.

137. Infinite Joost (Voxter)

posted on July 23, 2012 at 09:40 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

According to MLB.com, Scratchiro is wearing #31 tonight.

138. TerpNats posted on July 23, 2012 at 09:47 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Ichiro's number should just be an exclamation point.

I don't want to confuse him with Youppi.

139. Infinite Joost (Voxter)

posted on July 23, 2012 at 09:48 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

I also just realized that I'm not going to be able to watch this game because of MLB's ludicrous blackout rules and my lack of cable. Maybe I'll have to go over to my dad's house.

140. Srul Itza posted on July 23, 2012 at 09:51 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

So what cap will they put on his Hall of Fame plaque?

141. Infinite Joost (Voxter)

posted on July 23, 2012 at 09:54 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Expos.

142. zonk posted on July 23, 2012 at 10:11 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Ummmm.... what?

I just want to make sure I have a post in this thread... you know, for posterity.

143. Ivan Grushenko of Hong Kong posted on July 23, 2012 at 10:14 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

So what cap will they put on his Hall of Fame plaque?

Blue Wave I hope

144. Crispix Attacks 2: Swag Airlines posted on July 23, 2012 at 10:19 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

That team no longer exists. They should go with the Expos instead.

145. Bowling Baseball Fan posted on July 23, 2012 at 10:23 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

ESPN will be airing his first at bat. So, when they get to the 3rd inning after 11:30.

146. Infinite Joost (Voxter)

posted on July 23, 2012 at 10:24 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

I find it so weird that the Blue Wave no longer exists. When the M's signed Ichiro, I knew that Japanese MLB was probably the second-best league in the world, but I didn't know much about it, other than Sadaharu Oh's name. The Blue Wave became the only team I knew anything about for a few years, and inasmuch as it was possible to follow JMLB in English back then, I guess you would have called me a fan. Now the team is gone, Scratchiro is a Yankee, and kids these days are listening to Snoopy Snoopy Poop Dog and . . . I dunno, suddenly I feel old. Sorry to be a bummer.

147. The District Attorney posted on July 23, 2012 at 10:35 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

Sooo..... what are the boos like tonight in Seattle, I wonder?

Nah, Ichiro got a standing O when he came out to RF, and I assume he'll get another one in a moment when he comes up. (EDIT: Yup.)

kids these days are listening to Snoopy Snoopy Poop Dog

That's Snoop Lion, grandpa.

148. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) posted on July 23, 2012 at 10:36 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

If he can make it there, he can make it anywhere, if he wanted to

149. AROM posted on July 23, 2012 at 10:40 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

It's kind of impressive to think how good this Yankee lineup was in 2006:

C Martin 282/355/436
1B Tex 282/371/514
2B Cano 342/365/525
SS Jeter 343/417/483
3B Arod 290/392/523
IF Chavez 241/351/435
RF Ichiro 322/370/416, 45/47 in steals
CF Jones 262/363/531
LF Swisher 254/372/493
OF Granderson 260/335/438
DH Ibanez 289/353/516

150. AROM posted on July 23, 2012 at 10:42 PM # hit 0 | hit 0

ESPN will be airing his first at bat. So, when they get to the 3rd inning after 11:30.

Next to impossible for it to go down that way. If the third inning comes at 1130, then the #8 hitter is going to bat before that. I suppose it could be the other team with long innings, but come on, these are the Mariners.

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