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    • Wednesday, May 22, 2013

    Mitchell: Pedroia, Cano and Magical Thinking

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    posted 1 day ago by Repoz to red sox, yankees  |  24 comment(s)

    Pedroiadolia: The psychological phenomenon of seeing wacko images on dirty uniforms.

    The narratives around the two players, however, could not be different. Pedroia is almost the prototype of the over-achieving “scrappy” player. He is a 5’8” middle infielder who does the little things well. This ignores that he was also a second round draft choice who played baseball at a top baseball school. Cano, on the other hand is bigger, more athletic and does not project scrappiness at all. Throughout ...

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    51. Steve Treder posted on July 23, 2012 at 06:50 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    Ichiro could have his last name on his jersey if he wanted to.
    52. BourbonSamurai, vassal of the Harpsburg Empire posted on July 23, 2012 at 06:50 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    It is sort of like if the Padres had traded Tony Gwynn when he was 40.


    Yeah, that is a pretty good analogy. I guess Ichiro wants a ring?
    53. andrewberg posted on July 23, 2012 at 06:50 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    The rare trade that disappoints everyone.

    I know there is a lot of sentimentality, but this is a good trade for the Mariners, both in terms of opening up playing time for guys who might be part of the next good Seattle team, and in showing that Z can make decisions.
    54. Gold Star - just Gold Star posted on July 23, 2012 at 06:51 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    55. bunyon posted on July 23, 2012 at 06:52 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    @54: I expect to see Godzilla ripping through that screen in a few minutes.
    56. Robert in Manhattan Beach posted on July 23, 2012 at 06:52 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    So I guess we'll find out if Ichiro is toast or was just board. I'm betting on board.
    57. TVerik posted on July 23, 2012 at 06:52 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    I think the Yankees probably got themselves the most famous right fielder in the league.
    58. Johnny Sycophant-Laden Fora posted on July 23, 2012 at 06:54 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    Seems reasonable as a baseball move for the Mariners, but I am still very surprised Z did it. It is sort of like if the Padres had traded Tony Gwynn when he was 40.


    Gwynn could actually still hit at 40, just couldn't stay healthy/ in the lineup
    59. Guapo posted on July 23, 2012 at 06:56 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    I think the Yankees probably got themselves the most famous right fielder in the league.


    They traded for Francoeur?!
    60. PreservedFish posted on July 23, 2012 at 06:58 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    Holy crap. I think this is kind of awesome. I hate the Yankees, but I love Ichiro. Ichiro being terrible for the Yankees is fine news, but Ichiro revitalizing his career in NYC is an undeniably terrific story.
    61. PreservedFish posted on July 23, 2012 at 07:00 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    So I guess we'll find out if Ichiro is toast or was just board. I'm betting on board.


    He could be an important plank for the Yankees to build the edifice of their postseason dreams upon.
    62. ShoeGrit posted on July 23, 2012 at 07:02 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    The Orioles rejoice
    63. Cowboy Popup posted on July 23, 2012 at 07:04 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    Mitchell is actually semi-useful. And they traded him for someone just as good as Dewayne Wise (Rest of the season ZIPs for Wise: .292 RC+; Rest of the season ZIPs for Ichiro: .289 RC+). What a waste.
    64. UCCF posted on July 23, 2012 at 07:04 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    If I had guessed a thousand potential baseball trades today, this wouldn't have even sniffed my brain. The only thing that might make this weirder would be if it were an Ichiro-for-Jeter swap.
    65. Matt Clement of Alexandria posted on July 23, 2012 at 07:05 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    Mitchell is actually semi-useful. And they traded him for someone just as good as Dewayne Wise (Rest of the season ZIPs for Wise: .292 RC+; Rest of the season ZIPs for Ichiro: .289 RC+). What a waste.
    You get to root for Ichiro!
    66. PreservedFish posted on July 23, 2012 at 07:06 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    Yeah, this reminds me of Giambi/Mabry and Francoeur to the Mets, just for the weirdness factor.
    67. PASTE Thinks This Trout Kid Might Be OK (Zeth) posted on July 23, 2012 at 07:07 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    If there is any way to bet that Ichiro! hits at least .320 the rest of the year, I am getting all the money I can find on that ############.
    68. rlc posted on July 23, 2012 at 07:09 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    Ichiro could have his last name on his jersey if he wanted to.


    Meh, he's had his last name on his jersey for years. He could have his family name and a motorcycle endorsement on those pinstriped rags if he wanted to.
    69. Cowboy Popup posted on July 23, 2012 at 07:09 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    Dude, you get to root for Ichiro.

    I guess. But he's 39 and is really only a pinch runner/defensive sub at this point in his career. It's not the same as rooting for Ichiro!
    70. PASTE Thinks This Trout Kid Might Be OK (Zeth) posted on July 23, 2012 at 07:10 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0


    Taking defensive innings from Ibanez: good
    Taking defensive innings from Jones: possibly ok
    Taking defensive innings from Wise: very bad


    So how does "the Yankees DFA'd Wise to make room for Ichiro!" rank on that scale?
    71. JC in DC posted on July 23, 2012 at 07:10 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    So which hat does Ichiro wear into the HoF?
    72. the Hugh Jorgan returns posted on July 23, 2012 at 07:12 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    And yet Alfonso Soriano is STILL available!
    73. Esoteric throws a 'hard slider' posted on July 23, 2012 at 07:13 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    Ichiro almost crying right now during the press conference in Seattle.
    74. PASTE Thinks This Trout Kid Might Be OK (Zeth) posted on July 23, 2012 at 07:14 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    Serious question: if the price was the same would you rather have Ichiro! or Soriano?
    75. The District Attorney posted on July 23, 2012 at 07:15 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    I don't think it's quite as weird as the Padres trading Gwynn would be, since A) Gwynn was actually from San Diego, making him even more of a hometown hero, and B) if I recall correctly, Gwynn was not one of the highest-paid players around when he was well past his prime, as Ichiro has become, so SD would have had less financial need to move him.

    But yes, it certainly is quite shocking. I guess the Mariners felt they were between Scylla and Charybdis¹, as they could either let Ichiro go and take crap for being both cheap and heartless, or keep him around and have a potential repeat of the Ken Griffey '10 debacle where they simply cannot even pretend to carry the "legend" as a player on the roster any longer. I assume they'll still take some crap for this, but it should be more muted since Ichiro gets to go for a ring and I suppose MITCHELL! could be worth something.

    ¹ Although really, a mariner should relish this challenge.
    76. Tom Nawrocki posted on July 23, 2012 at 07:15 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    Can't wait to see him on the Yankees.
    77. Mom makes botox doctors furious posted on July 23, 2012 at 07:15 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    Not disappointed here - what a great shake-it-up "well, I'll be derned" kind of refreshing thing to find at the top of the page.

    What's next - Mariano to WA for J Werth? Josh Hamilton to CO for Tuloy?

    And how do ya pronounce Ichiro in the Bronx???
    78. PepTech posted on July 23, 2012 at 07:16 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    And he's been going on for several minutes - in Japanese, with no translation yet...
    79. Yonder Alonso in misguided trousers (cardinal) posted on July 23, 2012 at 07:16 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    Man, I wish instead of this heartfelt speech, Ichiro was doing one of his All-Star Game expletive-filled rousers.
    80. vortex of dissipation posted on July 23, 2012 at 07:17 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    It's difficult to see someone who has been my favorite player for a decade go, but if this gives him a chance to play in a World Series, then I'm glad for him. I've got tickets for tomorrow night's game. If he plays, he'll be getting a standing ovation from me when he comes to bat.
    81. PepTech posted on July 23, 2012 at 07:19 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    My office is taking us all on Wednesday. Great timing!

    The translation is finally on - sounds like Ichiro! reads BBTF. "This team has plenty of players in their mid-20s who need to play and I realized I shouldn't be on this team next year."
    82. Guapo posted on July 23, 2012 at 07:20 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    Breaking News: An extremely annoyed Eric Wedge is currently trying to come up with a whole new set of signs for tonight's game
    83. Guapo posted on July 23, 2012 at 07:21 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    The farmer from "Babe" is speaking now.
    84. TVerik posted on July 23, 2012 at 07:23 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    Girardi said that he'll play LF.
    85. PepTech posted on July 23, 2012 at 07:24 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    Your new Yankee LF! "Last time I played left was in a playoff game at Yankee Stadium". Ha!
    86. Lassus posted on July 23, 2012 at 07:25 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    I had a friend call and tell me this from Colorado in the most normal voice possible, and I genuinely became concerned he might be having a stroke.
    87. The Yankee Clapper posted on July 23, 2012 at 07:27 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    With Jeter, A-rod, and now Ichiro, I wonder where the 2012 Yankees might rank on the team career hits list? Near the top, I'd think since they have a few other veterans (Tex, Jones) with decent totals.
    88. vortex of dissipation posted on July 23, 2012 at 07:27 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    "Last time I played left was in a playoff game at Yankee Stadium". Ha!
    89. Shooty is in the Trust Tree  posted on July 23, 2012 at 07:29 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    Ichiro is, of course, very cool, but he's also pretty terrible now. Not sure why the Yanks wanted him as there had to be better, though admittedly less famous options. This seems like a baseball card trade.
    90. Brian C posted on July 23, 2012 at 07:30 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    What this actually reminds me of is when Cashman put in that waiver claim on Canseco. And suddenly, Canseco was a Yankee and no one really knew why.
    91. TerpNats posted on July 23, 2012 at 07:30 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    So how does "the Yankees DFA'd Wise to make room for Ichiro!" rank on that scale?
    Three years to the day that DeWayne made da catch for da Sox to save Buehrle's perfecto.
    92. Tom Nawrocki posted on July 23, 2012 at 07:30 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    Girardi said that he'll play LF.


    That makes almost as much sense as having Ichiro play LF.
    93. TVerik posted on July 23, 2012 at 07:31 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    Shooty, I have seen a lot of "done" veterans have a really good few months in pinstripes at the end of their career. I'm excited, and hopeful.
    94. The District Attorney posted on July 23, 2012 at 07:32 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    Swish has 925.7 career innings in LF.

    Yankee Stadium LF of course used to be much more expansive than RF, but I don't think that's a big factor anymore.¹

    ¹ Now the entire stadium is simply DISGRACEFUL.
    95. TVerik posted on July 23, 2012 at 07:36 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    That was awesome. Harold Reynolds asked a stupid question about the Japanese media in NYC, and Ichiro! said "I don't think we have time for useless questions like that."
    96. The District Attorney posted on July 23, 2012 at 07:39 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    That's a kabuki question, bro.
    97. Monty posted on July 23, 2012 at 07:40 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    That's a kabuki question, bro.


    That's a good piece of business.
    98. JoMo the master pitch framer posted on July 23, 2012 at 07:46 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    #87 http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/PHA/1928.shtml I expect is close
    99. catomi01 posted on July 23, 2012 at 07:46 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    That was awesome. Harold Reynolds asked a stupid question about the Japanese media in NYC, and Ichiro! said "I don't think we have time for useless questions like that."


    I'm at work, so I'm not watching, but if that was the actual quote, Ichiro is now my favorite yankee.
    100. phredbird  posted on July 23, 2012 at 07:46 PM #  hit 0 | hit 0

    That was awesome. Harold Reynolds asked a stupid question about the Japanese media in NYC, and Ichiro! said "I don't think we have time for useless questions like that."


    seriously? i am now fervently rooting for a NYY-LAD WS.

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