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1. Nate Posted: May 05, 2008 at 04:22 PM (#2769259)

I'd be interested, and I'd suggest a slow-live format. Spread it over a week, give everyone pre-defined times they need to draft. If you give everyone a half-hour window and assume drafting for 10 hours a day you can be done in under 6 days.

2. Mike Emeigh

Posted: May 05, 2008 at 05:04 PM (#2769332)

I'd be interested, and I'd suggest a slow-live format. Spread it over a week, give everyone pre-defined times they need to draft. If you give everyone a half-hour window and assume drafting for 10 hours a day you can be done in under 6 days.

I like that idea.

-- MWE

3. Greg Schuler Posted: May 05, 2008 at 05:07 PM (#2769337)

Myself, I'd said do it real-time like the real draft. There's nothing quite like pulling names off a board. Cursing when your guy goes a few picks before your spot.

But given that people have lives and jobs, the suggestion from Nate sounds reasonable and workable.

4. Kyle S at work Posted: May 05, 2008 at 05:38 PM (#2769389)

I think this is a great idea. I'd rather not draft for the Braves, simply because I don't know much about the pool of players they'll be selecting from with their low picks, but if you can't find anyone else, I'll do it.

5. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: May 05, 2008 at 05:39 PM (#2769390)

I like the idea, but I'm definitely going to defer to Mike on picking for the Pirates.

6. Backlasher

Posted: May 05, 2008 at 05:51 PM (#2769413)

Is htere any place that lists prospect's weight? If so, I could easily pick for the A's.

7. As foretold by the prophesy (JFSE) Posted: May 05, 2008 at 06:22 PM (#2769465)

I can handle the Braves as long as I have position-height-zip code.

8. MM1f Posted: May 05, 2008 at 06:44 PM (#2769495)

I would love to do this. I've done this for Sickles' site and I've (kind of nerdily) been assembling a draft board when I should be working to do a full shadow draft this year

9. MM1f Posted: May 05, 2008 at 06:45 PM (#2769498)

To follow up...
I am of course a Braves fan but could draft capably for them or anyone else

10. Mike Emeigh

Posted: May 05, 2008 at 07:10 PM (#2769525)

I like the idea, but I'm definitely going to defer to Mike on picking for the Pirates.

Actually, you can do the Pirates - there will probably be a few teams that no one will wind up volunteering to do which I'll do.

Are you going to assign a team to each player?

I'd much rather have people to volunteer to draft for a team, presumably their primary rooting interest.

-- MWE

11. CraigK Posted: May 05, 2008 at 07:15 PM (#2769527)

Dibs on Cardinals

12. Big Train Posted: May 05, 2008 at 07:15 PM (#2769528)

Yankees got a draft pick for Luis Vizcano?

####### awesome. I thought he was dead. I am glad he is not dead, and just in the NL.

13. 4seamer Posted: May 05, 2008 at 07:17 PM (#2769531)

Mike - consider putting a pool of knowledgeable users together for each team (say 5 max from those interested here), each with one vote, and each submits anonymously to a mock board email account. Then the board tallies the votes and announces the pick.

You could run the board in a way that requires the Pirates 5 users to submit their picks before the Rays users time slot is up, the #3 sumbits to the board during #2's pick time limit, etc. That way you stay one pick ahead all the time allowing the board time to tally. If there is a tie because someone doesn't submit, take the first and last entries submitted to get the pick. If still a tie, then the next order would be the first and second pick emailed to the board.

14. flournoy Posted: May 05, 2008 at 07:27 PM (#2769540)

@14:

That's an interesting idea, but I imagine that it'll be hard enough to find 30 interested people, much less 150. I wouldn't want to do a team all on my own, but if I were part of a Braves "panel," then that might work.

15. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: May 05, 2008 at 07:31 PM (#2769544)

I nominate Temple for the Red Sox draft.

16. villageidiom Posted: May 05, 2008 at 07:57 PM (#2769573)

45. Boston Red Sox (Eric Gagne to Milwaukee)

Heh.

I'm interested in the proceedings and results, but not in actually participating.

17. rawagman Posted: May 05, 2008 at 09:29 PM (#2769654)

I'd love to contribute by handling the Blue Jays draft. JP Ricciardi is slowly developing his talents and may surprise in real life. I figure I might as well preview some of those surprises now!

18. JJ1986 Posted: May 05, 2008 at 09:34 PM (#2769657)

I'd be interested and I'm perfectly content to take a team no one wants. Say, the Marlins.

19. Nate Posted: May 06, 2008 at 12:48 AM (#2769867)

I'll defer to Temple on the Sox as well. I know someone from both the Nationals and Astros organizations, so I'd be glad to draft for one of them (or both, if needed).

20. Der Komminsk-sar Posted: May 06, 2008 at 12:53 AM (#2769873)

I'm waaaay out of touch this year, but should be able to fill in for some team that no one wants.

Not to be weird, but should my selections take into account the philosophies and development acumen (or lack thereof) of the organization I'm associated with (if any)?

21. Mike Emeigh

Posted: May 06, 2008 at 01:04 AM (#2769897)

Not to be weird, but should my selections take into account the philosophies and development acumen (or lack thereof) of the organization I'm associated with (if any)?

No. The idea is for you to use your own judgment as to who *you* would pick, given the option to pick in that spot. I guarantee you that had I been drafting at #4 a year ago instead of David Littlefield, I'd have taken Jason Heyward.

-- MWE

22. MM1f Posted: May 06, 2008 at 01:26 AM (#2769955)

"I'd much rather have people to volunteer to draft for a team, presumably their primary rooting interest."

I'll volunteer for the Braves then, though I would take a team no one wants if needed as well

23. Harveys Wallbangers

Posted: May 06, 2008 at 01:36 AM (#2769982)

Drafting for Milwaukee is pretty simple. Big bat, defense optional.

I will help out with Milwaukee if better informed folks like NTN and battlekow take a pass.

Or if one of the newer folks is really enthused about it. We need to get some fresh blood involved.

Consider me a fallback option....

24. Der Komminsk-sar Posted: May 06, 2008 at 02:00 AM (#2770061)

The idea is for you to use your own judgment as to who *you* would pick, given the option to pick in that spot.

Yeah, but if I'm the Twins, and I'm have faith in my organization's ability to teach pitchers with a modicum of control to hit spots, but not keen on the ability to impart pitch selection to hitters (or whatever), I might pick differently than if I'm in a vacuum.
Granted, vacuum's easier.

25. Mike Emeigh

Posted: May 06, 2008 at 02:34 AM (#2770153)

Yeah, but if I'm the Twins, and I'm have faith in my organization's ability to teach pitchers with a modicum of control to hit spots, but not keen on the ability to impart pitch selection to hitters (or whatever), I might pick differently than if I'm in a vacuum.

I feel this way: In a mock draft, if you are drafting for a team, you should use whatever information you think is relevant to make your selection. Some guys will draft best player available regardless, some guys will draft for need, some guys will draft based on what they know of the team (e.g. they won't draft a Boras advisee because they think the team wouldn't, or shouldn't). I have no problem with whatever approach people take to running their team's draft.

-- MWE

26. Eraser-X is emphatically dominating teh site!!! Posted: May 06, 2008 at 02:37 AM (#2770170)

Can we have a mock draft of primates?

27. MM1f Posted: May 06, 2008 at 02:49 AM (#2770190)

Looking at the picks, I might prefer the Astros since i can't think of any astros draftniks on this site. but i'll pick for any team really

28. Phil Coorey. Posted: May 06, 2008 at 02:56 AM (#2770205)

Great idea - i'm just keen on watching.

29. Rafael Bellylard: Built like a Molina Posted: May 06, 2008 at 01:07 PM (#2770525)

Depending on the day, I could take a team.

30. rawagman Posted: May 06, 2008 at 02:53 PM (#2770617)

Is there anywhere where I could find out (for free) which prospects are represented by Boras, or high schoolers with college commitments who are overly likely to follow through go to school?

31. Mike Emeigh

Posted: May 06, 2008 at 04:09 PM (#2770694)

Is there anywhere where I could find out (for free) which prospects are represented by Boras

Not a complete list, I don't think, but you'll see plenty of references here and there.

Top prospects being advised by Boras include:

Pedro Alvarez
Eric Hosmer
Aaron Crow
Allan Dykstra
Alex Meyer
Gerrit Cole
Josh Fields

More will come forward, I'm sure.

high schoolers with college commitments who are overly likely to follow through go to school?

Same thing. You'll find lots of references, but a complete list will be hard to come by.

Sonny Gray, RHP out of Smyrna, TN who's committed to Vanderbilt, has been hurt this spring, and is odds-on to go to Vandy. Brett DeVall, LHP from Niceville, FL and a Georgia signee, has seen his stock drop as well.

-- MWE

32. Social media assassin (Templeusox) Posted: May 06, 2008 at 04:19 PM (#2770707)

I'd be willing to do the Sox as long as I'm not busy.

33. The Keith Law Blog Blah Blah (battlekow) Posted: May 06, 2008 at 04:35 PM (#2770730)

I'll help out with the Brewers if need be.

34. Brian Oliver Posted: May 06, 2008 at 07:24 PM (#2770905)

Depending upon when you are planning to do this, I'd be willing to take the Nationals

35. knucklehead7 Posted: May 06, 2008 at 08:18 PM (#2770995)

I was going to offer to take the Nats, but I don't think you could find someone more knowledgeable about the Nats' farm system that Brian Oliver.

36. AJM Posted: May 06, 2008 at 08:39 PM (#2771012)

The Mets have 3 of the first 33 picks? Thanks Atlanta!

37. HappyBuddaH Posted: May 07, 2008 at 01:43 AM (#2771465)

I could pick for the 'Stros. I keep up with their minor league system and live in the Houston area when I follow UH and Rice baseball along with some high school games.

HappyBuddaH@aol.com

38. Nate Posted: May 07, 2008 at 02:38 AM (#2771550)

Seems others have stepped up for the Red Sox, Astros, and Nationals, so I'll grab the Padres and have fun with a plethora of draft picks.

39. meatwad Posted: May 07, 2008 at 07:14 AM (#2771894)

if i had any attention span i would pick for the cubs, sadly i dont.

erasier we all know that im a first round pick in the primate draft, but my signability concerns will drop me down

40. Los Angeles Waterloo of Black Hawk Posted: May 07, 2008 at 07:49 AM (#2771896)

If no one else steps for the Angels, I guess I can give it a try, though I don't really have the knowledge to do it. I do have Baseball America's college preview issue, and I do read Saber-Scouting and John Sickels.

41. Los Angeles Waterloo of Black Hawk Posted: May 07, 2008 at 07:46 PM (#2772487)

What the hell, I'm up for it. Between BA's preseason Top 100 college and HS lists, Saber-Scouting, Sickels, and Google, I guess I should be okay.

42. something clever Posted: May 08, 2008 at 11:17 PM (#2774167)

44. Los Angeles Waterloo of Black Hawk Posted: May 07, 2008 at 03:46 PM (#2772487)
What the hell, I'm up for it. Between BA's preseason Top 100 college and HS lists, Saber-Scouting, Sickels, and Google, I guess I should be okay.

It'll be like you're sitting in the A's draft room circa 2002. Keep your Milo's handy.

43. PanRains Posted: May 11, 2008 at 01:57 AM (#2776414)

I'm more of a lurker than some of the other Indians fans like Bernal, Dan Lee, Tony, Matthew Rich, etc, but if they don't want to participate I'd be happy to take the Tribe. And if they do want to participate, I'd be happy to help them or take an orphan team.

44. Tony H. Posted: May 13, 2008 at 05:52 AM (#2778671)

I'm more of a lurker than some of the other Indians fans like Bernal, Dan Lee, Tony, Matthew Rich, etc, but if they don't want to participate I'd be happy to take the Tribe. And if they do want to participate, I'd be happy to help them or take an orphan team.

Dude, go for it. I'm pretty much a lurker these days anyway, and I'm sure you know more about the amateur draft than any of us, anyway. Pick well; I'll be watching!

45. Los Angeles Waterloo of Black Hawk Posted: May 14, 2008 at 10:26 PM (#2780999)

PanRains, Bernal can't post on the Mainland due to a lost bet. So it's down to you and Dan Lee for Mock Draft Deathmatch.

46. ansmith04 Posted: May 21, 2008 at 01:44 PM (#2789304)

I can handle the Mets' picks if nobody has taken it yet. I wrote a piece for HotFoot projecting the Mets' first three picks in the draft. This was before I realized that Alonso won't fall to 18.

http://www.hotfootblog.com/2008/05/16/2008-draft-preview/

47. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: May 21, 2008 at 01:59 PM (#2789323)

"This was before I realized that Alonso won't fall to 18."

Heh. Hope springs eternal, I guess.

48. PanRains Posted: May 24, 2008 at 08:37 PM (#2793403)

Howdy all. I realize this is not a tiny undertaking, so I mean no disrespect when I ask "Are we going to be doing this?"

49. rawagman Posted: May 26, 2008 at 08:16 PM (#2794670)

I'm thinking "no." Also, I don't think every team was accounted for.

50. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: May 28, 2008 at 03:30 PM (#2796746)

I'm very interested. I'd prefer the Royals, but if you'd rather have the Royals, I'd be happy to take another team.

51. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: May 28, 2008 at 04:16 PM (#2796799)

Here's who has volunteered for who:

mm1f - ?
Der Komminskar - ?
Rafael Bellyard (p8p) - ?

Kyle S at Work - Braves
JJ1986 - Marlins
ansmith04 - Mets
??? - Phillies
Brian Oliver - Nationals

Happy Buddah - Astros
Harvey Wallbangers - Brewers
Craig K some obscure verb phrase - Cardinals
??? - Cubs (shouldn't have trouble filling this)
Vlad - Pirates
??? - Reds

??? - Diamondbacks (where's levski?)
??? - Dodgers
??? - Giants
Nate - Padres
??? - Rockies

rawagman - Blue Jays
??? - Orioles
??? - Rays
TempleUSox - Red Sox
??? - Yankees (shouldn't have trouble filling this)

PanRains - Indians
Alex Gordon's #1 Fan - Royals
??? - Tigers
??? - Twins (Will Young?)
??? - White Sox

Los Angeles Waterloo of Blackhawk - Angels
??? - A's
??? - Mariners
??? - Rangers

I suggest if we can't find takers for all the teams, some people double up. I'd be happy to take on a second team.

52. rawagman Posted: May 28, 2008 at 07:58 PM (#2797063)

Time is short, but I'd be happy to handle the Giants in addition to the Jays

53. Rafael Bellylard: Built like a Molina Posted: May 28, 2008 at 08:05 PM (#2797073)

I'll take the Rays since they're the local team. If I'm needed to double up, give me the A's (the local team of my youth).

All I need to know is when.

54. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: May 29, 2008 at 06:45 PM (#2798590)

Bump.

55. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: May 30, 2008 at 04:02 PM (#2799637)

Bueller? Bueller?

56. Brian Oliver Posted: May 30, 2008 at 07:32 PM (#2799985)

It's time to call it, doctor. The patient isn't going to make it.

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