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   1. Der-K and the statistical werewolves. Posted: November 17, 2010 at 10:29 PM (#3692290)
Brewers left (among others) OF B.Katin and 3B T.Green unprotected (names from the brewerfan.net boards).
   2. esseff Posted: November 17, 2010 at 10:38 PM (#3692301)
Giants add Thomas Neal and Ehire Adrianza, per transactions at mlb.com
   3. JJ1986 Posted: November 17, 2010 at 10:39 PM (#3692302)
I like Evan Anundsen too although I don't know his injury status.
   4. Group Captain Mandrake Posted: November 17, 2010 at 10:43 PM (#3692310)
Um, where are they? Or is this just a thread to talk about them?
   5. esseff Posted: November 17, 2010 at 10:44 PM (#3692316)
Haven't seen a Cardinals list yet, but here's my end-of-the-season setup piece with all the names who stand to be Rule V eligible if not protected: Link
   6. Der-K and the statistical werewolves. Posted: November 17, 2010 at 10:44 PM (#3692318)
Just talk for now - they're not yet finalized.
   7. Der-K and the statistical werewolves. Posted: November 17, 2010 at 10:48 PM (#3692322)
ess eff - I had no idea about Martinez - poor guy.
   8. esseff Posted: November 17, 2010 at 11:04 PM (#3692348)
ess eff - I had no idea about Martinez - poor guy.


The link (to Martinez's story) inside the link is actually from May 2009. It was incorrect about Martinez resuming his career imminently. AFAICT, Martinez didn't play again until the tail end of the 2010 season.
   9. esseff Posted: November 18, 2010 at 01:00 AM (#3692459)
Cardinals add Eduardo Sanchez, Adam Reifer and Pete Kozma, according to rotoworld (no link to real source). The first two are rhrp's, and Kozma is a SS drafted in the first round in 2007 (when, as many a disgruntled Cardinal fan likes to point out, Rick Porcello was still on the board).

If this it -- it puts the 40-man at 36 -- it would expose some intriguing names to the Rule V, led by (imho) Adron Chambers, a speedy left-handed OF who has had a very good AFL season.

Also CF Tommy Pham, PCL All-Star pitcher Brandon Dickson and a few other RHPs -- Brian Broderick, Ramon Delgado, Casey Mulligan, Pete Parise, Blake King. Also C Tony Cruz, who also has been strong in the AFL and the ancient Amaury Cazana, who is a cautionary lesson in what happens to Cuban defectors when they make the mistake of coming directly to the U.S., rather than establishing residence in a third country.
   10. esseff Posted: November 18, 2010 at 01:03 AM (#3692461)
Update to No. 9. The names are now on the mlb.com transactions, and Chambers was added to the 40-man.
   11. esseff Posted: November 18, 2010 at 01:18 AM (#3692471)
And now they've added RHP David Kopp. Sorry, would have done the updates in an edit of #9, but for some reason, I'm not seeing an edit option on these posts.

Anyway, the Cardinals have a release out now with those five names -- Sanchez, Reifer, Chambers, Kozma and Kopp, which gives them 38 on the 40-man.
   12. Der-K and the statistical werewolves. Posted: November 18, 2010 at 01:20 AM (#3692472)
I've always been kind of a Pham apologist - how did he look defensively this year? I saw he really did a number on his K/W problem.
   13. Der-K and the statistical werewolves. Posted: November 18, 2010 at 01:25 AM (#3692476)
Come to think of it, Cruz could stick w/ someone, in the right situation - strong arm and non-horrible bat (this year), though the PB numbers are a little scary.
   14. esseff Posted: November 18, 2010 at 01:50 AM (#3692492)
I haven't seem Pham, but I can only guess that there has to be a reason they held onto him all those years when he was contributing nothing offensively. Plus, he was a drafted as a SS, which would be another piece of circumstantial evidence.

Cruz's problem is that he's largely redundant with Steven Hill -- right-handed power hitter with questionable defense -- who was given a brief call-up during the season. With the Cardinals in the market for a major league FA to be Molina's backup and with Bryan Anderson also still on the roster, I can't imagine they'd burn 5 roster spots on catchers.
   15. Home Run Teal & Black Black Black Gone! Posted: November 18, 2010 at 02:36 PM (#3692720)
OF B.Katin


From the UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!!!!!!!
   16. Mike Emeigh Posted: November 18, 2010 at 03:45 PM (#3692749)
The Brewers added Ps Dan Merklinger and Wily Peralta and INF Eric Farris. Their roster is currently at 37, so they could add more.

-- MWE
   17. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: November 19, 2010 at 04:25 PM (#3693586)
Giants release P Waldis Joaquin

Nats outright P Juan Jaime

A's outright P Justin Souza

O's outright 1B Rhyne Hughes and P Armando Gabino
   18. Mike Emeigh Posted: November 19, 2010 at 04:54 PM (#3693613)
I expect we'll start to see these trickling in today.

Fron Bob Dutton's blog:

Club officials indicated those under consideration for protection are pitchers Everett Teaford, Mario Santiago and Eduardo Paulino; first baseman/designated hitter Clint Robinson; and outfielders Derrick Robinson, David Lough and Paulo Orlando.

Current players who appear most at risk include pitchers Bryan Bullington, Gaby Hernandez, Phil Humber and Victor Marte; infielder Josh Fields and outfielder Jordan Parraz.


I think Teaford and Lough are certain to be protected and I expect that the other two pitchers will be as well. Derrick Robinson is kind of on the borderline; the Royals have spent a lot of money on him, and he's the type of player who *could* stick on someone's roster as a 5th OF. While it would be tough to leave Clint Robinson unprotected after the season he just had, he's the opposite of Derrick Robinson in a lot of ways - teams typically "don't" select 1B/DH types in Rule 5.

-- MWE
   19. JJ1986 Posted: November 19, 2010 at 05:01 PM (#3693623)
Tigers add two, Charlie Furbush and Cale Iorg. Both the kind of guys who would be picked, but I'm not sure either is worth keeping.
   20. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: November 19, 2010 at 05:13 PM (#3693640)
I think D-Robinson will be protected. He's the kinda speedy guy a team would take as a PR/defensive replacement, and I think the club is pretty high on him. I think Clint Robinson is unproected - as you say, no one will keep a 1B jumping from the AA level.

I'm not sure Lough is much of a risk to get taken - he's kind of a tweener. Then again, he probably wouldn't embarrass himself at the MLB level as a bench guy. But he doesn't really do anything exceptionally well, he just is solid in a lot of areas. Paulo Orlando is a better hitter than D-Rob, but with less speed, but I wouldn't anticipate him getting protected or taken.

I think Santiago and Teaford should get protected (Teaford has a good shot to make the club in the spring) and no on Paulino. The "at risk guys" should all be unprotected.
   21. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: November 19, 2010 at 06:27 PM (#3693747)
Tigers add two, Charlie Furbush and Cale Iorg. Both the kind of guys who would be picked, but I'm not sure either is worth keeping.


More than that. They also added Lester Oliveros, Jose Ortega, Brayan Villarreal, and Duane Below.

I bet Villarreal would have gone if he hadn't been rostered. Kid's got a great arm.
   22. Mike Emeigh Posted: November 19, 2010 at 07:21 PM (#3693799)
Not a roster announcement, but just for the fun of it:

Jonathan Schuerholz will be managing the Braves' Gulf Coast League affiliate this year. Schuerholz the younger retired following the 2008 season, then spent two years as a roving minor league instructor for Atlanta. Vladimir Nunez, who finally retired after 2010 after three seasons in AAA for the Braves, will be the pitching coach in Florida.

The Braves also let Phil Wellman, the star of this meltdown several years ago, go as their AA manager. Rocket Wheeler moves up from A-ball, and Luis Salazar takes over at Lynchburg. Paul Runge (Danville to Rome) swaps jobs with Randy Ingle. Atlanta usually has a lot of stability in the organization; although they move guys around, they don't let a lot of people go and they don't have a lot of people leave. Wheeler and Ingle have been there forever, and Wellman had been in the organization for a long time as well.

-- MWE
   23. WTM Posted: November 19, 2010 at 07:31 PM (#3693808)
Phil Wellman

Not the most aptly-named guy ever.
   24. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: November 19, 2010 at 07:59 PM (#3693828)
Vladimir Nunez, who finally retired after 2010 after three seasons in AAA for the Braves, will be the pitching coach in Florida.


Little-known fact: Nunez is responsible for me picking "Vlad" as my handle when I started posting here. He was pitching in a highlight on SportsCenter, and the name stuck in my head. (Plus, I'm a Slav, so it fits.)

Phil Wellman, the star of this meltdown several years ago


Gee, it's too bad the Pirates don't have a fiery manager like that. :P
   25. Dewey, Soupuss Not Doomed to Succeed Posted: November 19, 2010 at 10:11 PM (#3693933)
The White Sox added RHPs Anthony Carter and Nate Jones, and SS Eduardo Escobar.

Carter and Escobar have both been impressive in the Arizona Fall League. Jones has a big fastball.

The moves bring the 40-man roster to 34. God, this is a barren system.
   26. Mike Emeigh Posted: November 19, 2010 at 10:20 PM (#3693942)
Indians add Ps Nick Hagadone, Corey Kluber, Josh Judy, and Zack McAllister and 3B Jared Goedert. Former first-rounder Adam Miller, who hasn't pitched since 2008, was left off.

-- MWE
   27. Mike Emeigh Posted: November 19, 2010 at 10:21 PM (#3693944)
Rangers add Ps Fabio Castillo, Wilmer Font, and Miguel de los Santos and OF Engel Beltre.

-- MWE
   28. Mike Emeigh Posted: November 19, 2010 at 10:23 PM (#3693946)
Cubs add Ps Chris Archer, Kyle Smit and Alberto Cabrera and OF Brandon Guyer.

-- MWE
   29. Mike Emeigh Posted: November 19, 2010 at 10:25 PM (#3693947)
Coming fast now!

Padres add Ps Simon Castro, Brandon Gomes, Jeremy Hefner and Evan Scribner, OF Cedric Hunter, C Luis Martinez and 2B Jeudy Valdez.

-- MWE
   30. Mike Emeigh Posted: November 19, 2010 at 10:27 PM (#3693950)
SoxProspects.com analysis. Red Sox have four slots, top candidates are C Luis Exposito, 2B Oscar Tejeda, and Ps Stolmy Pimentel, and Jason Rice.
   31. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: November 19, 2010 at 10:31 PM (#3693954)
Royals added 1B Clint Robinson, per his agent.
   32. Der-K and the statistical werewolves. Posted: November 19, 2010 at 10:39 PM (#3693958)
I'm not surprised Vlad (Nunez)'s going into coaching - I saw him working with teammates on a number of occasions (and I don't see many games).
   33. Mike Emeigh Posted: November 19, 2010 at 10:44 PM (#3693963)
Tigers also outrighted Fu-Te Ni to Toledo.

-- MWE
   34. Mike Emeigh Posted: November 19, 2010 at 10:45 PM (#3693965)
And the Tigers signed Alberto Albuquerque to a major-league deal and put him on the 40-man as well.

(Cue Weird Al...)

-- MWE
   35. Mike Emeigh Posted: November 19, 2010 at 10:47 PM (#3693967)
Phillies add P Justin De Fratus, SS Freddy Galvis, 2B Harold Garcia, 2B Cesar Hernandez and 1B Matt Rizzotti.

-- MWE
   36. Mike Emeigh Posted: November 19, 2010 at 10:49 PM (#3693969)
Jays add C Brian Jeroloman, Ps Joel Carreno and P Alan Farina and OFS Darin Mastroianni and Moises Sierra.

-- MWE
   37. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: November 19, 2010 at 11:17 PM (#3693998)
And the Tigers signed Alberto Albuquerque to a major-league deal and put him on the 40-man as well.


Nice pickup.

Miguel de los Santos


No! The precious! We wants it!
   38. esseff Posted: November 19, 2010 at 11:59 PM (#3694023)
Braves' adds: RHP Randall Delgado, RHP Cory Gearrin and OF Matt Young.
   39. JJ1986 Posted: November 20, 2010 at 12:03 AM (#3694027)
Cards outright Steve Hill (among others).
   40. OaklandAs Posted: November 20, 2010 at 12:44 AM (#3694041)
Diamondbacks claim Juan Jaime from the Nationals, and add RHPs Josh Collmenter and Yonata Ortega to the 40 man roster. The Diamondbacks now have filled 39 out of 40 slots.
   41. Willie Mayspedester Posted: November 20, 2010 at 12:49 AM (#3694044)
Cardinals add Eduardo Sanchez


Did they get him after he was dropped by Kenny Powers?
   42. Mike Emeigh Posted: November 20, 2010 at 12:58 AM (#3694048)
Yankees add Ps Dellin Betances and Ryan Pope and OF Brandon Laird. They also purchased former #1 draft pick OF Cody Johnson from the Braves and placed him on the AAA roster. I would expect Johnson to be in Trenton to start 2011.

-- MWE
   43. Mike Emeigh Posted: November 20, 2010 at 01:01 AM (#3694050)
Cardinals add P Blake King and C Tony Cruz, outright P Adam Ottavino and OFs Nick Stavinoha and Daryl Jones in addition to Hill.

-- MWE
   44. esseff Posted: November 20, 2010 at 01:02 AM (#3694052)
Cards outright Steve Hill (among others).


Others being Stavinoha, Adam Ottavino and Darryl Jones, who a couple of years ago was close to the top of their top prospects list.

They also added Tony Cruz and Blake King to the 40-man.

Seems unusual to do the 40-man shuffling in two distinct steps two days apart.
   45. Mike Emeigh Posted: November 20, 2010 at 01:03 AM (#3694053)
Mets add Ps John Stinson and Armando Rodriguez, 3B Zach Lutz, and SS Jordany Valdespin.

-- MWE
   46. Mike Emeigh Posted: November 20, 2010 at 01:08 AM (#3694056)
Red Sox add Exposito, Pimentel, and Tejada.

-- MWE
   47. Mike Emeigh Posted: November 20, 2010 at 01:10 AM (#3694057)
Marlins add Ps Arquimedes Caminero and Evan Reed, and outright former #1 draft pick P Brett Sinkbeil.

-- MWE
   48. Mike Emeigh Posted: November 20, 2010 at 01:14 AM (#3694061)
Rays add C Nevin Ashley and Ps Dane De La Rosa, Alex Cobb, and Albert Suarez. Cuban 1B Jose Ruiz was released.

Rockies add Cs Wilin Rosario and Jordan Pacheco and Ps Bruce Billings, Casey Weathers and Cory Riordan.

Orioles add P Zach Britton, 1B Joe Mahoney, and OF Matt Angle. Former #1 pick 3B Billy Rowell was left unprotected along with INF Ryan Adams and P Pedro Beato.

-- MWE
   49. OaklandAs Posted: November 20, 2010 at 01:14 AM (#3694062)
A's add Michael Taylor, Corey Brown, Adrian Cardenas, Sean Dolittle, and Trystan Magnuson. That's all 40 slots.
   50. Mike Emeigh Posted: November 20, 2010 at 01:20 AM (#3694065)
Seems unusual to do the 40-man shuffling in two distinct steps two days apart.


I'm guessing they wanted to see if they could move Ottavino and/or Stavinoha and finding no takers decided to cut bait.

-- MWE
   51. ugen64 Posted: November 20, 2010 at 02:33 AM (#3694089)
Orioles add P Zach Britton, 1B Joe Mahoney, and OF Matt Angle. Former #1 pick 3B Billy Rowell was left unprotected along with INF Ryan Adams and P Pedro Beato.


Adams was ranked the #8 prospect in the system by BA. also not protected are 3B Brandon Waring, P Wynn Pelzer (ranked #6), P Steve Johnson (drafted by the Giants last year and then returned), and P Pedro Beato (2.11 ERA in AA last year as a 23 year old). the O's have I think 5 more spots open.
   52. Mike Emeigh Posted: November 20, 2010 at 03:10 AM (#3694099)
Seattle adds 10 players: Ps Michael Pineda, Tom Wilhelmsen, Josh Lueke, Maikel Cleto, Cesar Jimenez, Yoervis Medina and Mauricio Robles, OFs Johermyn Chavez and Carlos Peguero, and 3B/1B Alex Liddi.

Houston adds 2B Jimmy Paredes (acquired in the Lance Berkman trade) and Ps David Carpenter (acquired for Pedro Feliz), Jorge De Leon and Arcenio Leon.

Nationals add 1B Chris Marrero and Ps Adam Carr and Cole Kimball.

-- MWE
   53. WTM Posted: November 20, 2010 at 04:12 AM (#3694117)
Pirates added LHPs Jeff Locke, Dan Moskos and Tony Watson, and RHPs Mike Crotta and Kyle McPherson. DFA'd Zach Duke, Delwyn Young and Andy LaRoche.
   54. jwb Posted: November 20, 2010 at 04:23 AM (#3694119)
Little-known fact: Nunez is responsible for me picking "Vlad" as my handle
Ah hah. I thought your rooting interests seemed odd for someone who had two prominent former Canadian players in his handle.
   55. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: November 20, 2010 at 04:42 AM (#3694122)
Royals add 1B Clint Robinson, OF Derrick Robinson, OF David Lough and P Everett Teaford

DFA OF Jordan Parraz, P Bryan Bullington, P Gaby Hernandez, and P Victor Marte

Semi-interesting names left unprotected: P Mario Santiago, P Eduardo Paulino, OF Paulo Orlando
   56. Mike Emeigh Posted: November 20, 2010 at 04:46 AM (#3694124)
Twins add P David Bromberg, 1B/OF Chris Parmelee, and OFs Joe Benson and Rene Tosoni.

-- MWE
   57. Der-K and the statistical werewolves. Posted: November 20, 2010 at 05:43 AM (#3694138)
note on ryan adams - he commits LOTS of errors. there's a teeny bit of ryan raburn in his profile.
   58. rawagman Posted: November 20, 2010 at 06:16 AM (#3694151)
Unprotected on Jays - Adam Loewen, Brad Emaus.
   59. Mike Emeigh Posted: November 20, 2010 at 11:31 PM (#3694475)
the O's have I think 5 more spots open.


Yes, they do - which is kind of strange. I think there's a good chance they lose someone like Pelzer or Beato - with five open slots they didn't really have to do that IMO.

-- MWE
   60. rlc Posted: November 20, 2010 at 11:52 PM (#3694491)
Yes, they do - which is kind of strange. I think there's a good chance they lose someone like Pelzer or Beato - with five open slots they didn't really have to do that IMO.

There's certainly a fair chance Pelzer and/or Beato get chosen - MacPhail must be betting that neither will stick. And he'll need a bunch of those roster spots.

The O's need 3/4 of an infield; trades are certainly a possibility, but free agency seems more likely. If the team adds a minor leaguer to the roster to protect him from the Rule 5 draft but then removes him to make room for a free agent signing, they've screwed up badly, because then the prospect can be claimed on waivers and doesn't need to stay on the big league roster of the claiming team. They have a better chance of holding onto the marginal prospects by leaving them off the roster.
   61. JJ1986 Posted: November 22, 2010 at 01:23 AM (#3695002)
Reds aren't listed here yet. They added Zack Cozart, Todd Frazier, Kris Negron and Daryl Thompson.
   62. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: November 23, 2010 at 03:38 PM (#3695900)
I wrote a thing about available players, if anyone's interested. Would welcome feedback, on either the writing or the players.
   63. Der Komminsk-sar Posted: November 29, 2010 at 09:29 PM (#3698843)
Boras proposes an alternative to Rule 5.

I was gonna link to your post (and the one you linked to), Vlad - forgot about it; sorry. Can't read it (again) from where I am - will give feedback later.
SPANdemonium posted what they think is the list of eligibles, with people they consider to be of interest in bold.

One note - a lot of fan entries on this stuff make heavy mention of guys who were recently outrighted to AAA - like Eddie Kunz or Brett Sinkbeil. However, why would a team pick them up in Rule 5 if they could have gotten them for less / without roster restrictions a few weeks prior?

IIRC, Law likes (insomuch as he likes anyone from this process) Craig Heyer (NYY) and Nick Carr (NYM), among others. Doesn't like Pelzer.
   64. Der Komminsk-sar Posted: November 30, 2010 at 09:08 PM (#3699436)
Ba has 2 Rule 5 articles up. One (free) on the recent history of the draft, the other (subscirber only) their preview.

I'm hoping to post a few names I think are worthy of selection tomorrow (schedule permitting - I've only looked at half of MLB thus far) - the BA article hit many of the ones I haven't seen other people list. Marquez Smith (a 3b/2b type, like Emaus, like Adams, like Taylor Green) might be the best (current value) postion player on the board. Best position player who I haven't seen anyone pimp yet is Josh Rodriguez, the ss/if from Cleveland. Also, I agree w/ BA that Aneury Rodriguez might be the most likely guy to get tabbed (Pelzer is up there too).
   65. Der Komminsk-sar Posted: November 30, 2010 at 09:10 PM (#3699439)
Wish I could edit that post. :)
   66. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: November 30, 2010 at 09:21 PM (#3699449)
   67. Der-K and the statistical werewolves. Posted: December 01, 2010 at 06:06 AM (#3699735)
Crawfish - mostly solid mention, imo.
They mentioned SS Justin Sellers*, noting that they didn't know about his defense - his glove is generally considered his best attribute (average to very, very good - depending on who you ask). He's been short on attention, I think, for much of his pro career (generally young for his league, hits well enough to hold his own, some projectability) - but the teams that have had him (A's, Cubs, Dodgers) never seemed (from my far off vantage point) to really believe in him. He could be a Theriot type, if you let him. (This year's power in Albuquerque was maybe a fluke/bad thing - the book on him is that he swings for the fences too often - there, he could get away with it a bit more).

* I think I talked him up in last year's R5 thread - or maybe it was the year before. Something like that.
   68. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: December 01, 2010 at 06:53 PM (#3700087)
However, why would a team pick them up in Rule 5 if they could have gotten them for less / without roster restrictions a few weeks prior?


Yeah, I always wondered about the thinking behind that, too.

I guess it sort of makes sense if you're writing a "who should get chosen" piece, rather than a "who will get chosen" one.
   69. JJ1986 Posted: December 01, 2010 at 07:07 PM (#3700110)
RA Dickey was picked a couple of years ago after signing a minor league deal. I don't know if anyone freely available has been chosen since.
   70. JJ1986 Posted: December 01, 2010 at 07:09 PM (#3700114)
I haven't seen him mentioned, but I think Robert Rohrbaugh gets picked and has a good chance to stick -- older, bullpen lefty.
   71. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: December 02, 2010 at 12:37 AM (#3700431)
I've almost got myself halfway talked into the idea of Luis Jimenez being a good hide-and-hold pick. What say y'all?
   72. Mike Emeigh Posted: December 02, 2010 at 01:30 AM (#3700449)
Reds aren't listed here yet. They added Zack Cozart, Todd Frazier, Kris Negron and Daryl Thompson.


Negron's a bit of a surprise; he's basically the same player as Cozart without quite as much pop. The others aren't terribly surprising.

-- MWE
   73. Mike Emeigh Posted: December 02, 2010 at 01:52 AM (#3700458)
As for guys who might be tempting:

Kasey Kiker (Texas) is a former #1 draft pick who throws left-handed (always a plus). He hasn't been healthy and had an absymal year in 2010, and his stuff hasn't developed as much as you might like to see. However, he's still just 23 and probably can do the Donnie Veal thing out of the pen for a year.

Seattle left Johan Limonta unprotected. Limonta's 27 and hasn't played above AA, and he doesn't hit for enough power to man a full-time job at a corner, but he hits line drives and plays decent enough defense. He could be a decent lefty bat off someone's bench.

The White Sox also made Deunte Heath available. Heath is the former Atlanta prospect who got caught up in a prostitution sting last spring and was eventually released by the Braves. He had a good year for Birmingham in a middle relief role.

-- MWE
   74. Der-K and the statistical werewolves. Posted: December 02, 2010 at 03:05 AM (#3700489)
Of those three, Kiker is the only one I'd take a flier in R5.His control completely abandoned him, but he's got enough stuff (even with his setbacks) to compete otherwise. Heath would've interested me as an fa has he not stuck w/ the White Sox but...

Also, he was slagged in a BA chat today, but I also like the Boscan idea, Vlad.

I'd pass on Jimenez personally, but he's interesting enough.

Low ceiling but Brad Meyers is a reasonable 5th starter candidate. So is Scott Diamond.
   75. JJ1986 Posted: December 02, 2010 at 03:18 AM (#3700500)
Is wikipedia wrong about Diamond? It says he signed after the 2008 draft? Should that be 2007?
   76. Der-K and the statistical werewolves. Posted: December 02, 2010 at 04:07 AM (#3700530)
signed 8/23/07.
   77. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: December 02, 2010 at 03:38 PM (#3700707)
Also, he was slagged in a BA chat today, but I also like the Boscan idea, Vlad.


Yeah, I saw that, too. Seems kind of harsh to write off any future velo gains for a skinny little 20-year-old, but what do I know?
   78. Der Komminsk-sar Posted: December 02, 2010 at 06:38 PM (#3700913)
Another stray thought - this year, the non-tender deadline is before the R5 draft. Accordingly, something should change w/ one or the other: often, a good chunk of the non-tenders will immediately re-up with their old team - they would be draft eiligible in that event now ... so, we should either see more picks or a delay in their signing.
   79. Der-K and the statistical werewolves. Posted: December 09, 2010 at 03:19 AM (#3706330)
BA update (free).
BA podcast (also free) at: ripple.radiotail.com / 383 / mp3 / free / 101208.mp3 (originally a link, but got a 'blacklisted item' message when I tried to post - which is neat.

Aneury still drawing lots of attention. Elvin Ramirez (NYY) pops up in the update and a Buster Olney tweet (iirc) as a likely tab.
   80. MM1f Posted: December 09, 2010 at 03:40 AM (#3706339)
It is really interesting that Tom Wilhelmsen got protected. He is a 27 year old who has never pitched above low-A but he is a big guy with big stuff. He was a Brewers pick in 2002 who only played one season in the minors before failing some drug tests and quitting the game. He went back home and bartended for six years before playing a little indy ball and then Jack Z, who drafted him to Milwaukee, signed him to the Mariners. Crazy story. Its got to be risky adding a 27 year old who has never pitched over high-A, and who has pitched less than 85 innings over the last seven years to your 40-man but it sounds like Wilhelmsen's pure stuff might be worth it.

I remember reading a BA draft report card on the Brewers where a scout criticized his "goofy" make up, and I thought it was silly that a guy being goofy was a concern to the scout. I didn't realize at the time that the scout probably said that as a reference to some other problems the guy had that he couldn't talk about.
   81. Der-K and the statistical werewolves. Posted: December 09, 2010 at 02:52 PM (#3706607)
Langosch says SS/UT Josh Rodriguez (CLE) may be the Pirates pick ... draft in about 10 minutes.
   82. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: December 09, 2010 at 02:58 PM (#3706615)
<A HREF="http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20101208&c>Jonathan Mayo preview</a>

Joe Ortiz is VERY young and a long way from the bigs, but his K-BB numbers are very intriguing.

Scott Diamond looks like a pretty good LOOGY.

Aneury Rodriguez, Josh Rodriguez, Elvin Ramirez seem like very good bets to get taken early.
   83. Der-K and the statistical werewolves. Posted: December 09, 2010 at 02:58 PM (#3706616)
   84. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: December 09, 2010 at 03:17 PM (#3706635)
MLBTR:

* Pirates take Josh Rodriguez from Indians.
* Mariners take Jose Flores from Indians.
* Diamondbacks take Joe Paterson from Giants.
* Orioles take Adrian Rosario from Brewers.
* Royals take Nathan Adcock from Pirates.
* Nationals take Elvin Ramirez from Mets.
* Astros take Aneury Rodriguez from Rays.
* Brewers take Patrick Egan from Orioles.
* Mets take Brad Emaus from Blue Jays.
* Padres take George Kontos from Yankees.
* Twins take Scott Diamond from Braves.
* Rays take Cesar Cabral from Red Sox.
* Yankees take Robert Fish from Angels.
* Phillies take Michael Martinez from Nationals.
   85. Der-K and the statistical werewolves. Posted: December 09, 2010 at 03:18 PM (#3706638)
19 picks - almost no surprises.
1. PIT Josh Rodriguez, ut (cle)
2. SEA Jose Flores, rhp (cle)
3. AZ Joe Paterson, lhp (sfg)
4. BAL Adrian Rosario, rhp (mil)
5. KCR ...missed this one, sorry, a righty from pittsburgh
6. WAS Elvin Ramirez, rhp (nym)
7. CUB Mason Tobin, rhp (laa)
8. HOU Aneury Rodriguez, rhp (tby)
9. MIL Pat Egan, rhp (bal)
10. NYM Brad Emaus, 2b/3b (tor)
11. SDP George Kontos, rhp (nyy)
12. MIN Scott Diamond, lhp (atl)
13. NYY Rob Fish, lhp (laa)
14. TBY Cesar Cabral, lhp (bos)
15. PHI Mike Martinez, if, (was)
16. WAS Brian Broderick, rhp (stl)
17. HOU Lance Pendleton, rhp (nyy)
18. NYM Pedro Beato, rhp (bal)
19. NYY Dan Turpen, rhp (bos)
   86. cardsfanboy Posted: December 09, 2010 at 03:24 PM (#3706644)
19. NYY Dan Turpen, rhp (bos)


Earth's greatest hero, (almost)
   87. MM1f Posted: December 09, 2010 at 03:29 PM (#3706650)
I like Rodriguez alot as a Rule 5er. Solid tools and he always seemed like a pretty advanced, fundamentally sound player. Has played nicely in AAA, should be about as MLB ready as anyone in the Rule 5 draft
   88. Mark S. is bored Posted: December 09, 2010 at 03:32 PM (#3706656)
18. NYM Pedro Beato, rhp (bal)


If you can't sign him out of JCC, then grab him in Rule 5.
   89. Der-K and the statistical werewolves. Posted: December 09, 2010 at 03:36 PM (#3706663)
If you can't sign him out of JCC, then grab him in Rule 5.
Wee bit cheaper that way, huh?
   90. Freeballin' (Tales of Met Power) Posted: December 09, 2010 at 03:47 PM (#3706673)
I had never heard of Brad Emaus until just now, but ... did Alderson just get us a free 24 y/o second baseman who put up a .298/.395/.495 line in the high minors last year?
   91. Mark S. is bored Posted: December 09, 2010 at 03:52 PM (#3706680)
I had never heard of Brad Emaus until just now, but ... did Alderson just get us a free 24 y/o second baseman who put up a .298/.395/.495 line in the high minors last year?


It seems there are questions about his defense and whether he can remain at 2B.
   92. Freeballin' (Tales of Met Power) Posted: December 09, 2010 at 03:57 PM (#3706684)
Figured as much, but I have a pocket full of "the same could be said about"s from the Mets organization.
   93. MM1f Posted: December 09, 2010 at 04:01 PM (#3706687)
Also keep in mind that his numbers came in Las Vegas, which is Coors Field and then some.
That being said, Emaus is a nice chance to take.
   94. Freeballin' (Tales of Met Power) Posted: December 09, 2010 at 04:13 PM (#3706695)
He doesn't need to be Ryne Sandberg to give the Mets a substantial boost at that spot, lemme tell ya.
   95. Der-K and the statistical werewolves. Posted: December 09, 2010 at 04:17 PM (#3706702)
I like Emaus as well, but his speed has also been questioned (I'm hearing 30/35 grades, despite the decent sb #s last year). He's a good risk and was the consensus top position player on the board (irrespective of fit)

The only guy who I thought was more likely to go than not that wasn't picked was Pelzer. Best position player who didn't go was 3B Marquez Smith.
   96. Russ Posted: December 09, 2010 at 04:57 PM (#3706756)
Really like the Pirates picking up Rodriguez. Very nice upside, no real downside as he's not blocking anyone and they don't really have better options at SS right now (although it seems a little weird that Cedeno is only one year older than Rodriguez).

ZiPS has Rodriguez projecting a 91 OPS+ compared to Cedeno's 81. So for the Pirates, it could be a nice 10 point OPS+ pick-up costing them pretty much nothing.
   97. Der-K and the statistical werewolves. Posted: December 09, 2010 at 05:00 PM (#3706763)
Well, Cedeno's better defensively - but I think J-Rod could help in a utility role, sure.
   98. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: December 09, 2010 at 06:53 PM (#3706893)
What am I missing with Jason Rice? Throws upper 90s, good minor league numbers. He was unprotected in the minor league portion a few years ago and snagged by Boston, left unprotected again, and untaken. Seems like a nice bullpen part.
   99. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: December 09, 2010 at 07:12 PM (#3706919)
What am I missing with Jason Rice?


Not particularly young, and walks a lot of guys.
   100. Der-K and the statistical werewolves. Posted: December 10, 2010 at 04:44 AM (#3707567)
Also reports on his velocity are all over the place - less as in "is inconsistent" and more "may not throw as hard as some claim".

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