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Wednesday, July 27, 2016

Primer Dugout (and link of the day) 7-27-2016

Toledo News-Bee, July 27, 1916:

RED SOX PITCHER, ACCUSED OF USING BEANBALL, SAYS NO HURLER DELIBERATELY TRIES TO HIT AN OPPONENT

“The beanball will always be a part of the game,” said [Carl] Mays, who has punctured five men this season. “I don’t believe there’s a pitcher in any league in the country who ever deliberately tried to hit a batsman. No man’s arm is as true as a rifle.”
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“Some [batters] ‘choke up’ to within two inches of the plate instead of sticking within the six-inch boundary prescribed by the rules of the game.”

“Naturally the pitchers who try to keep the ball high and inside on these, or any other batters are liable to hit men when they put a lot of stuff on the ball.”

There’s an accompanying photo with this article, with a caption that reads in part, “Below, Carl Mays, of world’s champion Red Sox, center of latest campaign on deadly pitch.”

Four years and three weeks later, Mays would again be the center of unwanted attention over a beanball.

Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: July 27, 2016 at 09:16 AM | 30 comment(s)
  Beats: beanballs, carl mays, dugout, history

Monday, June 20, 2016

Primer Dugout (and link of the day) 6-20-2016

Pittsburgh Press, June 20, 1916:

Third Baseman Johnny Dodge of the Mobile Southern association team, died from a concussion of the brain. He was struck by a pitched ball Sunday thrown by Pitcher Tom Rogers of the Nashville club.

Dodge was drafted by the Philadelphia National league club several years ago from the Virginia league upon the recommendation of Frank Haller, who was scouting for the Phillies at the time. He figured in a trade with the Cincinnati club, after a year’s service with the Phillies, and played with that club for a season.

Aw, man, that sucks.

I wasn’t familiar with the John Dodge incident; as far as I knew, Ray Chapman was the only player to both play in the major leagues and die as a result of getting hit by a pitched ball.

Rogers’ BB-Ref Bullpen page cites a source that says Dodge had a habit of running at curveballs to hit them before they curved. Unfortunately, he ran at a high fastball and it hit him in the face.

As for Rogers, he went on to throw a perfect game three weeks later, then spent four so-so years in the majors.

Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: June 20, 2016 at 10:45 AM | 21 comment(s)
  Beats: beanballs, dugout, history, john dodge, tom rogers

Wednesday, June 08, 2016

Cameron: MLB Should Throw the Book at Yordano Ventura

Last year, following the bench clearing incident with the White Sox, MLB suspended Ventura for seven games, which caused him to miss one start. After this latest incident, MLB needs to throw the book at him. The punishments escalate significantly for repeat offenders of other behaviors MLB is trying to curb — a second failed PED test brings a suspension twice as long as a first failed test, for instance — and it’s clear that Ventura won’t be deterred from starting fights by simply missing a start and a week’s paycheck. It’s time for a real suspension that sends a real message.

My suggestion? Suspend him for a month. A 30 game suspension will cause him to miss six starts and will take roughly $150,000 out of his paycheck, and would send the message that the penalties are only going to get more harsh if he continues to believe it appropriate to use his fastball as a weapon. Ventura is a habitual offender at this point, and should be treated accordingly. The only way he’s going to stop starting fights is if baseball convinces him they’re serious about stopping him.

Just look how longer suspensions have completely deterred PED use.

RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: June 08, 2016 at 11:13 AM | 28 comment(s)
  Beats: beanballs, suspensions, yordano ventura

Primer Dugout (and link of the day) 6-8-2016

Pittsburgh Press, June 8, 1916:

OPPOSITION TO BEAN BALL INCREASING

It is high time that a baseball law was passed making a real penalty for the bean ball, the most dangerous weapon now in the power of big league ball players.

The bean ball is far worse than any player’s spikes, for its effects have been known to injure a player for life.
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Two persons fainted in the stands [in Cleveland Sunday] as [a pitch] crashed into Gandil’s skull and he dropped to the ground. He was lucky to be hit in front of the ear instead of behind it, and therefore was only dazed.

Such a rule probably would not have prevented the Mays-Chapman incident four years later - most contemporary sources say it was purely accidental - but it certainly wouldn’t have been a bad idea.

Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: June 08, 2016 at 09:48 AM | 9 comment(s)
  Beats: beanballs, dugout, history

 

 

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