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Wednesday, June 04, 2014

Primer Dugout (and link of the day) 6-4-2014

Milwaukee Journal, June 4, 1914:

Armando Marsans of the Cincinnati Reds was suspended last night on a charge of causing dissension among the team. This action by Manager Herzog followed receipt of letters from the Cuban outfielder and Dave Davenport, a young pitcher, that they would quit the club unless given new contracts.
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Herzog immediately ordered both players to get out of their uniforms and off the diamond. Davenport was later excused in the belief that he was led into the matter by Marsans.

Regardless of who the ringleader was, Davenport was in the Federal League by the middle of June 1914. He had an absolutely absurd workload in the 1915 Federal League: 55 games, 46 starts, 30 complete games, 10 shutouts, 392.2 innings pitched, and 1497 batters faced while putting up a 145 ERA+. Davenport was never the same again, but to be fair, he had never been the same before.

This was the second time in two months that Herzog and Marsans got into it. This time Marsans jumped to the Federal League, playing nine games before an injunction forced him onto the sidelines pending the outcome of the Reds’ court case against him for jumping his contract. More than a year later, Marsans was permitted to rejoin the St. Louis Terriers, but the time away from baseball had apparently eroded his skills and ruined his career.


Thursday, April 10, 2014

Primer Dugout (and link of the day) 4-10-2014

Pittsburgh Press, April 10, 1914:

Manager Herzog [of the Reds] has not fully decided how many pitchers he will carry through the season. He may make up his mind to hold as many as nine or ten, and certainly he will not let any twirler go who shows a reasonable chance ot making good in time. He expects to depend upon about six men for his box work, but will hold three or four of the most promising of the recruits…Any pitcher who exhibits an ambitious disposition, together with the ability to put a fair amount of stuff on the ball, will be kept on the bench.

Nine or ten pitchers? On a roster? At the same time?

That’s just crazy talk.

The Robby Hammock District (Dan Lee) Posted: April 10, 2014 at 09:44 AM | 11 comment(s)
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