Baseball for the Thinking Fan

Login | Register | Feedback

btf_logo

News

All News | Prime News

Old-School Newsstand


Contributors

Jim Furtado
Founder & Publisher
Repoz
Editor - Baseball Primer

Syndicate

Cards Newsbeat

Sunday, June 15, 2014

It was 50 years ago today Cards got Lou Brock from Cubs

As my old Cubs pal Ellsworthless Dick used to say: “You can’t spell I Go Boner Rile! without Ernie Broglio!”

On June 15, 1964, with his team enjoying an off day, Cubs second baseman Joey Amalfitano heard a knock on the door of his apartment.

Old pal Ernie Broglio was there with a suitcase and a smile, which baffled Amalfitano because his former minor league roommate pitched for the Cardinals and the Phillies were next on the Cubs’ schedule.

“I said, ‘What in the world are you doing here?’ Ernie said, ‘I just got traded to the Cubs for Lou Brock,”” Amalfitano recalled. “It was a huge surprise. I couldn’t believe it.”

Fifty years later, the shock has worn off in Chicago but some people still struggle believing the Cubs traded a future Hall of Famer for a veteran pitcher who only won seven games in three injury-plagued seasons on the North Side. Considered one of the worst baseball deals ever, Brock-for-Broglio shares a chapter in Cubs lore with tortured tales of the Billy Goat and Bartman. The standard by which all bad trades are measured remains a touchy topic for die-hards — but not for the man whose name still can make a Cubs fan cringe.

“It’s always nice to talk about that trade,” Broglio, 78, said with a chuckle from his home in San Jose, Calif. “I don’t mind. At least they remember who I am.”

...Nobody ever will know whether the Cardinals knew the extent of damage to Broglio’s elbow; none of the executives involved are alive. But Broglio suspects the injury occurred late in the 1963 season and he required cortisone shots between starts in ‘64, though he kept the pain private. His 3-5 record in early June suggested something was wrong.

“Even with our own doctors, Ernie wouldn’t say anything because you played through it,” Shannon said. “That’s just how it was back then. Ernie was a real good pitcher.”

The Cubs never saw that pitcher. The team shut down Broglio in August after the elbow issues had become intolerable. Three months later, Broglio had his ulnar nerve reset in a procedure similar to what today is known as Tommy John surgery.

“I spent three weeks in the hospital and was throwing at spring training in February because that’s the way it was those days,” Broglio said. “I’m sure that cut my career short.”

Repoz Posted: June 15, 2014 at 09:15 AM | 45 comment(s)
  Beats: cards, cubs, history

Thursday, April 17, 2014

MLB: Offense’s performance vs. Brewers favors Matheny’s interpretation of stats

Matheny Math: Minimal polynomial (Busch field theory).

Matheny studies the individual splits closely. His interpretation of those numbers might be typical in some cases, but it might also be surprising in others.

What works for Matheny in either case is his essential belief in his players.

“You know, when I see a guy who’s had even just a couple of at-bats against a pitcher, but has had success, there’s usually knowledge on both sides,” the manager said. “I don’t use the opposite side very well. When a guy has had two at-bats against a pitcher and he’s struck out a couple of times, I’m thinking, ‘He’s going to get him.’

“But if he’s had two at-bats and he’s had two hits, I’m thinking, ‘He owns him.’ A lot of it is just how confident our offensive guy would be walking into the box.”

So if a St. Louis player is, for instance, 2-for-2 against a particular pitcher, this indicates that the hitter clearly has the pitcher’s number. On the other hand, if a St. Louis player is 0-for-2 against a pitcher, this primarily indicates that the hitter is due.

Matheny’s view of these small samples appears to be a no-lose proposition for the Cardinals. On the other hand, look what the Cardinals have done in his two years as their manager. They were one game away from the World Series in 2012. In 2013, they had a division title, the best record in the National League and went to the World Series. Expecting success might be the one logical response to any given Cardinal situation.

And there will be numerous occasions when the sample sizes just won’t be suitably large, anyway.

“I don’t think there is too much of a sample size, or else we’d be waiting around forever,” Matheny said. “Every once in a while you see some guys with some larger at-bats, but in general you just take the information that you have and hope that confidence is a big part of that, one way or the other.”

Repoz Posted: April 17, 2014 at 11:25 AM | 8 comment(s)
  Beats: cards

 

 

BBTF Partner

Support BBTF

donate

Thanks to
Guts
for his generous support.

Bookmarks

You must be logged in to view your Bookmarks.

Hot Topics

NewsblogWith 8-2 win Tuesday, Orioles clinch first American League East title since 1997
(25 - 1:49am, Sep 18)
Last: SoSHially Unacceptable

NewsblogOMNICHATTER 9-17-2014
(86 - 1:41am, Sep 18)
Last: Roger McDowell spit on me!

NewsblogA’s lose Triple-A Sacramento affiliate
(83 - 1:20am, Sep 18)
Last: Toothless

NewsblogJays pitcher Stroman suspended 6 games
(9 - 1:05am, Sep 18)
Last: Shibal

NewsblogJoe Girardi put Derek Jeter’s farewell tour ahead of the team
(1 - 12:54am, Sep 18)
Last: Robert in Manhattan Beach

NewsblogOT: September 2014 College Football thread
(250 - 12:34am, Sep 18)
Last: Infinite Joost (Voxter)

NewsblogChris Davis Rescues Man Pinned Under Truck
(44 - 12:24am, Sep 18)
Last: Obo

NewsblogOT: Politics, September, 2014: ESPN honors Daily Worker sports editor Lester Rodney
(3004 - 12:20am, Sep 18)
Last: Howie Menckel

Hall of Merit2015 Hall of Merit Ballot Discussion
(28 - 12:18am, Sep 18)
Last: Ardo

NewsblogRudman: Clutch hitting the key to Mariners’ playoff hopes
(10 - 12:09am, Sep 18)
Last: madvillain

NewsblogUmpire ejects Braves fan for heckling Bryce Harper
(60 - 10:59pm, Sep 17)
Last: Paul Antonissen

NewsblogWilliam Blake, Color Analyst For the Atlanta Braves
(1 - 10:52pm, Sep 17)
Last: vortex of dissipation

NewsblogPedro pens a letter to Clayton Kershaw
(43 - 10:42pm, Sep 17)
Last: Squash

NewsblogJoe Girardi: ‘Pitch the right way’
(49 - 10:28pm, Sep 17)
Last: GregD

NewsblogOT: The Soccer Thread, September 2014
(264 - 10:03pm, Sep 17)
Last: frannyzoo

Page rendered in 2.3505 seconds
51 querie(s) executed