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Thursday, April 17, 2014

George Brett, Inspiration for the Song “Royals”, Meets Lorde

Last year [the New Zealand pop singer Lorde] told VHI that she saw a photo in National Geographic “of this dude just signing baseballs. He was a baseball player and his shirt said, ‘Royals.’ It was just that word. It’s really cool.”

My name is Votto, and I love to get blotto Posted: April 17, 2014 at 11:00 AM | 3 comment(s)
  Beats: hall of fame, pop music, royals

Thursday, April 10, 2014

If Hank Aaron Had Never Hit a Home Run, Would He Be a Hall of Famer? | FiveThirtyEight

This just in…Hank Aaron was no Dave Kingman.

Jim Furtado Posted: April 10, 2014 at 12:01 PM | 73 comment(s)
  Beats: hall of fame, hank aaron, sabermetrics

Thursday, April 03, 2014

MLB.com: Astros Shower Jeter With Applause & Gifts

First there was the pair of Yankees pinstriped Lucchese cowboy boots, emblazoned with Jeter’s No. 2. Then came the Texas-size Stetson cowboy hat, seemingly a must-have for anyone who passes through Minute Maid Park on his way to the Hall of Fame.

Pettitte, Roger Clemens and Mike Stanton, all former teammates and all Houston residents, joined Jeter on the field to present the gifts, along with longtime Astros radio announcer Milo Hamilton.

The ceremony also involved several big names from the golf world, in conjunction with the Shell Houston Open, which is taking place through April 6. . . . Crane, an accomplished golfer in his own right, owns the Floridian Golf Resort in Palm City, and he presented Jeter with a three-night stay at the resort as well as golf lessons from renowned teaching professional Butch Harmon. On behalf of the PGA, O’Meara, Wagner and Glover, Jeter was also presented a Titleist golf club set.

Nice gesture.


Friday, March 07, 2014

Cardinals hof fan vote.

WHO DO YOU THINK BELONGS IN THE ST. LOUIS CARDINALS HALL OF FAME?
VOTE NOW FOR TWO REDBIRDS LEGENDS!

The Cardinals and Edward Jones have teamed up to honor the greatest players in the club’s history. The new Hall of Fame will recognize these figures for their achievements and impact on the organization during their careers.

Each member will be permanently enshrined in the new Cardinals Hall of Fame gallery at Ballpark Village next to Busch Stadium.

Vote for your top 2 players.

cardsfanboy Posted: March 07, 2014 at 04:06 PM | 24 comment(s)
  Beats: cardinals, hall of fame

Monday, March 03, 2014

Bill James Mailbag - 2/27/14 - 3/2/14

Don Coffin was originally intended to manage Kane the Undertaker.

Hey, Bill, would you agree with me that HOF voters have spent a lot of time debating Jack Morris’ candidacy to the Hall and because of that they have overlooked more qualified candidates?  I am talking about Tim Raines, Fred McGriff, Alan Trammell or Edgar Martinez. Look, I don’t believe that Morris belongs to the HOF, but who am I? Fact is, I have read every argument on behalf of Morris while I haven’t heard the bandwagon for more legitamate candidates. And when Jim Kaat or Tommy John were in the ballot, I didn’t felt the same passion in the arguments of their supporters…

The arguments about Morris are fueled by the other side, and we can’t do anything about it if they keep pouring gasoline on the fire. They have the right to do so. Traditionalists have come to see Jack Morris as “their” guy, who is being kept out of the Hall of Fame by us people over here. We’d like the discussion to move on, yes, but what are you going to do?

In 1956, every National League team had an outfielder of historic greatness on the team, ranging from among the best ever to the merely stellar. Let me lay it out: Giants - Mays, Dodgers - Snider, Braves - Aaron, Reds - Robinson, Pirates - Clemente, Cardinals - Musial, Phillies - Ashburn, Cubs - Monte Irvin. Was this a unique occurrence (the AL that year, for example, had only 3 outfielders who had top flight careers)? Is it something that has become more difficult to sustain as the number of teams have grown?

Are you saying that Bob Cerv is not a player of historic stature? Pretty interesting. I would think it was historically unique, but. . who knows?

Hey, bill. For something I’m working on, I noticed that the rate of hit batters per game (per team) in MLB is now about 0.35—one hit batter per team every three games, roughly. As recently as 1980, it was 0.14, or one every 7 games. The last time the rate of hit batters was this high was in 1910. (Data from Baseball Reference.) Is this something we should be more worried about than we apparently are? (I’ll admit it worries me.)

I hadn’t looked at it in a few years. It’s related to the increase in strikeouts. If you’re trying to hit homers—and EVERYBODY now is trying to hit homers—one of the things you do is crowd the plate to increase your pull zone. One of the things that could (and probably should) be done to reduce homers is to move the hitters off the plate an inch or two.

Hey, Bill- Am I right to recall that you once questioned whether athletes who are represented by agents should also be able to form a union? If not, I apologize for the misattribution. But if so, I was hoping you could elaborate some on that. I applaud the work unions have done to by and large improve the work conditions for athletes, notably the MLBPA under Marvin Miller. But is this form of dual representation still a good idea? It seems like they can work at cross-purposes, in that what individual agents seek for their players can be hampered by membership in a union that includes both, e.g., Mike Trout and 12-year journeymen—and vice versa. Anyhow, I don’t have any strong views on the issue, but just note that it seems like an odd arrangement, and one that is only prevalent in sports and entertainment (SAG vs. the William Morris Agency, e.g.). Thanks.

Yes, it is my opinion that dual representation by an agent and a union is. . ..an odd situation presenting some issues about what is appropriate. I don’t know that I want to elaborate on it. MAYBE it’s appropriate; I just have some questions about it.


Thursday, February 27, 2014

Pedro Martinez thinks he ‘should have a shot’ at the Hall of Fame in 2015

Hell, everybody has a higher WAR than Tom Glaivine.

Pedro Martinez should be a first-ballot Hall of Famer when his name appears on the ballot for the first time next year.

He has a lower career ERA (2.93) than Greg Maddux, more strikeouts (3,154) than Sandy Koufax and a higher WAR (86.0) than Tom Glaivine. All of those pitchers were inducted on the first try.

Martinez, now a special assistant to Red Sox general manager Ben Cherington, is confident, but not certain that he’ll get the news he’s looking for next year.

“I think I should have a shot but it’s not up to me,” he said Wednesday from the team’s spring training complex. “Like I said, it’s not up to me. I can only hope and wait.”

...He’ll learn his fate for the Hall of Fame in Cooperstown sometime early next year.

“I’m looking forward to that,” Martinez said. “There’s only so much I can do. As of now, I’m just like you, hoping and waiting to get another chance to actually make it back-to-back years. Boston, then the Hall of Fame.”

Repoz Posted: February 27, 2014 at 07:49 AM | 132 comment(s)
  Beats: hall of fame, red sox

Monday, February 17, 2014

Doyel: Where is Derek Jeter among all-time greats? Higher than I thought

Not even the Survival Zone can save Doy-El’s latest!

Defensively? Jeter isn’t in the top five or top 10 or maybe even the top 25 in that category. And defense is part of baseball. A big part. Like, almost half the game. So if we’re going to measure defense, then I can’t sit here and tell you Jeter is a top-five shortstop all time, because how do you quantify what Ozzie Smith and Pee Wee Reese and Luis Aparicio and a whole host of other Hall of Fame shortstops gave on defense, compared to what they didn’t give on offense, and make a reasonable comparison between them and Derek Jeter? You can’t. Well, maybe you can. You can look at WAR and trust its accuracy as an end-all measurement, but I can’t and wouldn’t even try. Too muddled.

But offensively, the numbers are clear. Only two Hall of Fame shortstops have a higher career batting average than Jeter’s .312, and both of them—Honus Wagner, Arky Vaughan—played before integration. (Vaughan played 14 years in the big leagues, the final two coming in 1947 and ‘48.) That’s not to say that any player, by definition, can’t be considered an all-time great if he played before Jackie Robinson broke the color barrier in 1947. But come on. The competition increased when the pool of players was widened. Did it increase at the same level that expansion watered it down? Good question. Don’t know. But don’t ask me to ignore that Honus Wagner and Arky Vaughn put up the numbers they put up against mostly white, Anglo competition. That happened. It matters. How much does it matter? Don’t know. Neither do you.

Jeter’s career .381 on-base percentage is the best by any shortstop (minimum: 3,000 plate appearances) in the last 50 years except for Alex Rodriguez, who cheated to get to .384 and therefore doesn’t make my list of shortstops who arguably were better offensively than Jeter:

Honus Wagner. Ernie Banks. Cal Ripken. And, um, that’s it.

And I’m not sold on Ripken. Fun fact: His .447 slugging was exactly .001 better than Jeter (.446), and his OPS (.788) was 40 points below Jeter’s .828. But he had a lot more home runs and RBI, and a lot less strikeouts, so OK. I’ll put Ripken ahead of Jeter. Same with Wagner and Banks. But not Robin Yount, who spent barely half his career at shortstop. (Same goes for Ernie Banks, but his greatness happened primarily at short; Yount’s was spread between SS and CF.)

Wagner. Banks. Ripken. Jeter. Those are the top four offensive shortstops of all time.

Odd, right?

Repoz Posted: February 17, 2014 at 03:28 PM | 36 comment(s)
  Beats: hall of fame, history, sabermetrics, yankees

Friday, February 14, 2014

Pietrafesa: Hall of Fame should bend rule for Jeter to join Mo

Derek, Dave Dee, Dozy, Beaky, Mick, Tich & Mo: Don’t Bend It.

This is a plea to the Baseball Writers’ Association of America to bend the rules. It’s been done before, so do it again.

Derek Jeter and Mariano Rivera deserve to be inducted together into the National Baseball Hall of Fame in 2019.

It’s the right thing to do. Jeter and Rivera came up through the New York Yankees organization together, won five World Series titles together with class on and off the field, and belong together on the stage in Cooperstown delivering their induction speeches on the same July day in 2019.

Yes, this will require bending the rules because a player must be out of the game for five years before being on the Hall of Fame ballot. Jeter and Rivera are deservedly both first-ballot Hall of Famers, but are slated to enter the hall one year apart if chosen on their respective first ballot.

So why not bend the rules? It’s been done before and for Yankee greats. Lou Gehrig — the only player on a special ballot — was elected in a special vote at the 1939 Winter Meetings because it was uncertain how much longer Gehrig would live with amyotrophic lateral sclerosis — now also known as Lou Gehrig’s Disease.

Joe DiMaggio was excluded when the five-year rule was introduced in 1954 because he was close to the 75 percent needed for election. He was elected in 1955 despite retiring in 1951.

...Jeter and Rivera only wore the Yankee uniform in the era of free agency and were never mentioned in conversations of using performance enhancement drugs.

Rivera was deserving of the attention on his farewell tour in 2013 and the same can be said for Jeter in 2014. They are great role models and ambassadors for Major League Baseball.

They’re definite first-ballot hall of famers, but baseball and the writers should do this duo justice by inducting them together into the Baseball Hall of Fame Class of 2019.

Repoz Posted: February 14, 2014 at 05:20 AM | 100 comment(s)
  Beats: hall of fame, yankees

Thursday, February 06, 2014

Ralph Kiner, Mets broadcasting legend and Hall of Fame Pirates player, dead at 91

Kiner always credited Hank Greenberg, the equally renowned home run hitter who hit 58 for the Detroit Tigers in 1938, as having most influenced his career. Greenberg was acquired by the Pirates in 1947 specifically to tutor Kiner, but besides working with him on his hitting, Greenberg also cautioned Kiner about his partying ways while ingraining in him the value of hard work. In becoming the most prolific power hitter in baseball, Kiner was credited with having coined the phrase “home run hitters drive Cadilacs” although he later confessed the quote was actually attributed to him by a ‘40s Pirate teammate, lefthanded pitcher Fritz Ostermueller.

Unfortunately, during those first seven years in the big leagues, Kiner’s Pirates finished last or next-to-last five times while finishing over .500 only once, prompting what has become one of the most famous lines ever uttered by a baseball executive. It was after the 1952 season, in which Kiner had won his seventh straight home run title, that Pirates GM Branch Rickey nevertheless offered to cut his major league high salary of $90,000 some 22% to $70,000. When Kiner protested, Rickey replied: “Son, we could have finished last without you.”

kthejoker Posted: February 06, 2014 at 04:38 PM | 65 comment(s)
  Beats: hall of fame, new york mets, pittsburgh pirates, rip

Thursday, January 30, 2014

Livingston: Omar Vizquel and baseball’s summer song

Don Omar presenta…

Omar—it was always his first name, not “Vizquel” to fans—was talking over the weekend about being inducted into the Indians’ Hall of Fame in the summer. It shouldn’t stop there. He belongs in the Baseball Hall of Fame more than anyone else on the great 1990s Tribe teams.

Even then, as great a player as he was, he was a better ambassador for the game. Because he so clearly was having fun, he let us share in it. I put him on the short list of the most memorable players I’ve covered in over four decades as a newspaperman.

Albert Belle would be on the list, too. In 1995, he was a distillate of concentration, power and rage. He wasn’t very likable, but I’ve never seen any other player who simply did not miss mistake pitches. Belle didn’t, not in that shortened 144-game season in which he hit 50 homers and 52 doubles. Great as Belle was, though, the shadows he brought with him turned sunny days into gray ones.

Because of his temper tantrums, bat-corking and clubhouse disruptions, Belle has already failed to get enough baseball writers’ votes to stay on the Cooperstown ballot.

...We knew with Omar. He made you disbelieve your eyes with 11 Gold Gloves, more than anyone but Ozzie Smith, with nine of them with the Indians.

Even on the 1990s Indians, there were doubts and objections with so many others. There were the steroids later in Manny Ramirez’s career (and it would be no surprise if that weren’t true during his Tribe years too).

There were too many sullen interviews with Kenny Lofton, who was not the defensive player Vizquel was because Lofton often simply outran his mistakes.

There was the same old, same old with the big money making the difference when Jim Thome left town.

Repoz Posted: January 30, 2014 at 05:32 PM | 43 comment(s)
  Beats: hall of fame, indians

Tuesday, January 28, 2014

FanGraphs: Q&A: Tom Glavine, Hall of Fame Pitcher

As Tea For The Tillman pointed out…“This is better than “Living on the Black”.

Glavine on outperforming his peripherals: “I’m not a huge stat guy. I’ve always been a believer that if you took stats out of the game, you’d still know who the good players are, just by watching. When you start talking about guys who are Hall of Fame caliber, by and large, most of them probably performed better than they thought they could, or that a lot of people thought they could. That’s why they were able to have the careers they did. A common theme among them was they weren’t content; they were always looking to get better.

“For me, it was never about what I did last year, or what people were saying about me. It was ‘What can I do better than I did last year?’ and ‘How good can I be?’ That’s probably true for a lot of great players. They’re driven by something internal that’s hard to explain but gets them to a place they wouldn’t otherwise be. They outperform what people would realistically expect out of them.”

On the role defense played: “It played a huge role. Being a contact guy… believe me, it was nice to turn around and have Otis Nixon in center field, or Andruw Jones in center field — guys like that who could go get the ball. It was also nice to have Gold-Glove-type infielders behind me who I knew were going to make plays.

“That was one of the transitions I made from early in my career. I started getting better when I realized I could be pitching to contact and trusting the guys behind me. When those guys make plays, it becomes a lot easier to be aggressive and have that attitude of pitching to contact. It’s tougher to do when they’re making errors behind you. Inevitably, that plays on your mind. Fortunately, I had great defense behind me.

“In Atlanta, defense played a huge part in how we pitched. If we pitched the way we wanted to, and located the way we wanted to, our guys were going to be in position to make plays for us. Every now and then, they’d pick us up when we made a mistake.”

Repoz Posted: January 28, 2014 at 07:51 AM | 2 comment(s)
  Beats: braves, hall of fame

Friday, January 24, 2014

Chuck Knoblauch elected to Twins Hall of Fame

The four-time All-Star and 1991 American League Rookie of the Year is set to become the 27th member of the Twins Hall of Fame on Aug. 23, when he is inducted during a special on-field pregame ceremony before the Twins host the Detroit Tigers at Target Field.

DL from MN Posted: January 24, 2014 at 03:51 PM | 24 comment(s)
  Beats: hall of fame, hot dogs, twins

Thursday, January 23, 2014

HOF:Cap Selections Announced for Hall of Fame Plaques for Class of 2014 Inductees

:
Tony La Russa
....t’s the totality of the success of each of those three teams that led me to Cooperstown, so I am choosing to not feature a logo so that fans of all clubs can celebrate this honor with me…....

Greg Maddux
“My wife Kathy and I grew up in baseball in Chicago, and then we had just an amazing experience in Atlanta with the Braves. It’s impossible for me to choose one of those teams for my Hall of Fame plaque, as the fans of both clubs in each of those cities were so wonderful. I can’t think of having my Hall of Fame induction without support of both of those fan bases, so, for that reason, the cap on my Hall of Fame plaque will not feature a logo.”

the others are pretty much what you’d expect

Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: January 23, 2014 at 04:45 PM | 64 comment(s)
  Beats: hall of fame

Saturday, January 18, 2014

Schoenfield: The problem with the Hall of Fame

I guess my point is this: It was easier to elect guys such as Drysdale or Perez because they still managed to stand out among their peers; there were fewer great players simply because there were fewer teams. As the talent level in baseball gets more compacted (17 of the 31 players with 100 career WAR began their careers before World War II), it’s more difficult to put up numbers that separate you from your peers.
...
I’d like to see more Hall of Famers. I have to assume that’s what most of the people wanting change desire, as well.

In the end, it shouldn’t really be an argument about whether it’s a big Hall of Fame or a small Hall of Fame—it’s already a big Hall. Let’s make it bigger.

DanG Posted: January 18, 2014 at 10:26 AM | 21 comment(s)
  Beats: bbwaa,, hall of fame, war

Friday, January 17, 2014

Jeopardy! Hall Of Fame Answer Goes Horribly Wrong

354 wins did not overcome the controversy as this ex-Red Sox pitcher didn’t make the Hall of Fame cut in 2013. Who is Mark McGwire? (Trebek snorts mockingly.)

The other contestants responded with “Who is Pete Rose?” and “Who is Curt Schilling?” Hey, at least one of those guys was an ex-Red Sox pitcher. Or a pitcher at all! [WABC]

I lost on Jeopardy, baby…

plim Posted: January 17, 2014 at 04:53 PM | 140 comment(s)
  Beats: hall of fame, steroids

McCoy- Voting on the Hall Needs Revising

Long-time HOF Voter with some new ideas? Perish the thought!

TJ Posted: January 17, 2014 at 01:01 PM | 56 comment(s)
  Beats: hall of fame

Saturday, January 11, 2014

Posnanski: A Hall of Fame Idea

I have been wondering whether Lenny Harris would only vote for pinch-hitters.

OK, so I’d like to throw out a new Hall of Fame voting system. It is based a little bit on the current system, a lot on old Bill James idea and a little bit more of something new…

We have four different groups vote on the ballot.

Group 1: The BBWAA. This election can be much like it is now.

Group 2: The living Hall of Famers. I’d actually be for expanding this group so that it is the living Hall of Famers AND anyone else who has ever appeared on the Hall of Fame ballot. I’d be happy if it was widened even more than that and include, say, radio broadcasters.

I’d be for expanding the group beyond just Hall of Famers because Hall of Famers have a habit of not voting for anybody… let’s start by saying it’s just current Hall of Famers. They deserve a say. And we can discuss any expansion of Group 2 later.

Group 3: A SABR-organized panel of baseball historians, researchers, analysts and experts on the game’s history…

Group 4. Fans. I have a very specific suggestion for the fan group. I don’t think an All-Star balloting system or gigantic Internet poll is the way to go.

Here’s what I would do: The basic membership for the Hall of Fame right now is $50. I’d cut that in half — but make it so that one of the perks for membership is getting to vote for the Baseball Hall of Fame…

each of the groups gets a ballot. They vote. And here comes our biggest change. Every player who gets more than half the vote is nominated for the Hall of Fame by that group…. And in order for a player to get into the Hall of Fame, they need to be nominated by at least three of the four groups.

The District Attorney Posted: January 11, 2014 at 01:12 PM | 59 comment(s)
  Beats: hall of fame, joe posnanski

Friday, January 10, 2014

Jaffe: What to Expect Over the Next Five Years

Looking at such a scenario — which would come in the final year before I myself have a vote — I can take heart in the fact that it’s not too hard to envision paths to election for the likes of Piazza, Bagwell, Raines and eventually Schilling, with others such as Mussina and Martinez to follow further on down the line. I don’t see much resolution on Bonds or Clemens, and expect Sheffield and Rodriguez to move along more slowly than their stats would suggest.


Rethinking How Baseball’s ‘Greats’ Are Chosen

With this week’s announcement of the new inductees into the Baseball Hall of Fame came renewed calls to change the way the Baseball Writers Association of America makes its selections. The discussion became more heated when it was revealed that a voter — Dan Le Batard — secretly turned over his vote to readers at Deadspin. Le Batard was promptly stripped of his vote.

Does the voting process need to change?
Responses by Christina Kahrl, Joe Posnanski, Ed Sherman, Rob Neyer, and Trent Rosecrans

GregD Posted: January 10, 2014 at 08:50 PM | 9 comment(s)
  Beats: hall of fame, posnanski

Bill James Mailbag - 1/10/14

I’m amused to find that a guy named Bill White wrote about Huckleberry.

(Not the Rizzuto version, of course; the version idolized by Bill James…)

How about Bill White for the Hall? Very good player, great broadcaster, NL president and baseball disciplinarian.

Maybe we should poll the allegation that he was a great broadcaster; I’m not sure that’s a winner. Intuitively, when a player of that stature later goes on to serve as the League President, that’s probably somebody that the powers will select for Hall of Fame inclusion.

Hey Bill….As I understand the rules, the HOF electors can vote for no more than 10 candidates per year. Looking at this year’s HOF ballot it certainly looks like more than 10 could have been elected (for the sake of my question let’s presume PEDs never existed). Is there any inherent reason to place a 10 player limit per year, such as concerns that electing more than 10 might somehow dilute the honor, or is there some kind of mathemagic reason to limit it to no more than 10? Or is it that the Hall never expected to have such a strong ballot so that a 10 player limit seemed sufficient? Or is the 10 player limit the least of the HOF voting “problems?” Thanks.

Yes, it is the least of the Hall of Fame’s voting problems. I’m sure that the 10-man limit was put in place to discourage indiscriminate voting leading to lax standards, although indiscriminate voting BY THE BBWAA leading to lax standards has never been a real issue. (Indiscriminate voting leading to lax standards has been a problem, but by the Veteran’s Committee and the special committees, not the BBWAA.) Throughout almost all of the Hall’s history, there have not been 10 reasonable candidates on the BBWAA ballot. This year, because of the Expansion Time Bomb and the lack of consensus about the steroid users, there were (as you note) more than 10 people there who were worthy of selection.

Hey Bill: There is a rather breathless CNN expose that just hit on illiteracy among college athletes: http://www.cnn.com/interactive/2014/01/us/college-scores/index.html Aside from the cautionary tale of Shoeless Joe, I don’t believe I have heard of any baseball greats who could not read or write, although I would suspect anyone nicknamed “Country.” Any thoughts on this? Would an illiterate player be drafted by a club today?

Many of the Dominican players and those from other parts of Latin American have extremely limited educational backgrounds, and it is more than a remote possibility that there could be a player included there somewhere who could not read or write. There was an American player about 20 years ago who was illiterate; he had a strong rookie year, but then faded. It is likely that Rube Waddell was illiterate. . .well, certainly in 1900, and as late as 1940, levels of literacy in America were not what they are now. I wouldn’t be surprised if there were a good many illiterate players in that era. On the general issue. ..if a team thought a player could play, they would draft him and address this concern just as they would address any other. If you find a player who has ability but no teeth, you draft him and get him to a dentist. If you find a player who has ability but a terrible swing, you draft him and try to fix his swing. Same thing here. There are no perfect players to draft; the last perfect player to draft was Tom Seaver. Otherwise, everybody has issues. You draft them and deal with the issues.

Late to the party regarding the CEOs-Athletes-Actors salary debate: I don’t think we’re approaching that sea change (society actively trying to limit income among these groups) for a while, if not ever. These people are paid insane amounts because of the insane amounts of wealth/revenue they generate for their employers due to their own unique talents.

Well, you can believe that if you want to, but there are other ways to look at it. There are other people who have unique and valuable talents who aren’t compensated at a comparable level. If all of the players playing major league baseball suddenly retired and a new generation appeared, each player making no more than $100,000 a year, the game would go on just as before. If movie stars were not paid $20 million a movie, there would still be movies. If CEOs were not paid very large salaries, there would still be company presidents and, I suspect, equally competent or more competent business management.

The District Attorney Posted: January 10, 2014 at 03:31 PM | 90 comment(s)
  Beats: bill james, bill white, economics, hall of fame, sabermetrics

Thursday, January 09, 2014

Sporting News supports Dan Le Batard

Will they turn their ballots over to Deadspink?

[Dan] Le Batard is right. Reform is needed. At minimum, a redefinition of what the Hall of Fame should represent to baseball fans.

The fact his vote was turned over to Deadspin misses the point.

The best thing the BBWAA and the Hall can do is announce a plan to turn the vote over to the public or something similar on its own next year.

Greg Maddux, Frank Thomas, Tom Glavine, Mike Piazza, Craig Biggio, Edgar Martínez, Jeff Bagwell, Curt Schilling, Bonds, Clemens and Piazza. Give Deadspin’s readers credit, feels like they got it mostly right.

The District Attorney Posted: January 09, 2014 at 08:12 PM | 53 comment(s)
  Beats: bbwaa, dan le batard, deadspin, hall of fame, media, sporting news

Baseball Prospectus: How Secret Ballots Skewed the Hall of Fame Election Results

The writer sees this as a case in favor of transparency…. interesting info either way.

Extrapolating the results for anonymous voters from the full results and the Ballot Collecting Gizmo, here’s how the two groups voted on the serious candidates:

 

The District Attorney Posted: January 09, 2014 at 07:58 PM | 17 comment(s)
  Beats: baseball prospectus, bbwaa, hall of fame, media

Calcaterra: Did the BBWAA violate its own Constitution in disciplining Dan LeBatard? I can’t tell.

Just in case there are any lawyers here.

Dan Szymborski alerts me to something that is potentially – and I stress “potentially” — quite delicious. It seems that the BBWAA Constitution — under which the BBWAA suspended Dan LeBatard for giving his vote to Deadspin — requires notice and hearing before disciplinary action. Notice and hearing that could not have possibly taken place before his suspension today…

That said, there is another section in the Constitution which works against this, as it suggests that one-year suspensions — which LeBatard recevied — can happen “automatically.”...

This is a little problematic in that neither section references the other, which you would normally expect when one term limits another term of such a document. It’s possible that this is just bad drafting. It’s possible that the one-year “automatic” suspension refers to different kinds of suspensions — ones by local chapter chairs instead of the Board of Directors, for example — than the one LeBatard got. It’s also possible that LeBatard indicated to the BBWAA that he’d waive all hearing and appeal rights and just take his medicine so none of this potential ambiguity matters in the least.

If he did want to challenge this — and if I’m not simply missing something in the BBWAA Constitution — he could theoretically sue to be reinstated or something, arguing that his organization didn’t follow its own rules. But really, it’s highly unlikely he’d bother given that he basically gave the BBWAA the big kiss off with his comments in Deadspin yesterday.

The District Attorney Posted: January 09, 2014 at 07:49 PM | 99 comment(s)
  Beats: bbwaa, craig calcaterra, dan le betard, hall of fame, media

Keri/Grantland: Biggio, Blanks and the Deeply Flawed HOF Process

Craig Biggio should be in the Hall of Fame. So should Tim Raines. A river of red tape and ######## is preventing that from happening, and it’s a damn shame.

Chris Fluit Posted: January 09, 2014 at 07:43 PM | 16 comment(s)
  Beats: bbwaa, craig biggio, frank thomas, greg maddux, hall of fame, tim raines, tom glavine

Deadspin: The Angry Things Writers Are Saying About Our Hall of Fame Ballot

I found this comment to be especially rich given the source:

Dan Shaughnessy, Boston Globe:

“The wildly talented Dan Le Batard of ESPN turns out to be the voter who chose to mock the system by turning over his vote to a website that exists solely for the purpose of embarrassing people.

A lot of hard-working men and women have been involved in this process for 75 years, and like the rest of us, Le Batard was fortunate to be included in the process.

Effecting change from within is difficult. Anonymous betrayal and ridicule is easy. A stand-up guy would have recused himself.”

Shaughnessy makes a living off of trying to embarrass others. His ballot this year was Morris, Schilling, Thomas, Maddux, and Glavine. He had Trammell and Raines on his ballot last year, but dropped them despite having 5 empty spots on his ballot. A stand-up guy would have recused himself if they felt incapable of voting for more than five people on a ten person ballot.


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