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Wednesday, June 15, 2016

The rest of this season could make or break Joey Votto’s Hall of Fame case

Votto has had his detractors, people who don’t ascribe to sabermetrics, people who say he walks too much. Perhaps these people could knock Votto as well for the Reds not winning any championships during his career, though great players don’t always experience this. Until this season, Votto’s critics have mostly looked misguided…


Others needed their mid to late 30s to solidify their Hall of Fame cases or watch them collapse.

Take Hernandez, who looked like a Hall of Famer through his 20s, but declined badly in his mid-30s, tallying -0.2 Wins Above Average after turning 33. He retired at 36 and has never rated as a serious Hall of Fame candidate, though he has supporters who could point to him as one of the most underrated first basemen in baseball history. There’s a chance Votto could be his generation’s Keith Hernandez.

Then there’s Helton who was good for a cumulative 1.2 Wins Above Average from his age-32 season through the end of his career. For the more traditionally-inclined, Helton averaged 30 homers, 102 RBI, and a .337 batting average through 2005. For his remaining eight seasons, Helton averaged 12 homers, 61 RBI, and a .289 batting average. It’s like a tale of two totally different careers. The fact that all of it came for the Colorado Rockies is probably enough to prevent Helton from coming remotely close to a Hall of Fame plaque with the Baseball Writers Association of America when he becomes eligible in the fall of 2018.


Saturday, May 28, 2016

Carlos Beltrán, 400 Home Runs, 2,500 Hits, and The Hall of Fame

Beltrán’s career is winding down and it is doubtful he will attain the 500 home run or 3,000 hit-milestones that would make his Hall of Fame candidacy an open and shut case.  Nevertheless, Beltrán has quietly put together a fine career and, by reaching the secondary milestones of 400 home runs and 2,500 hits to go along with his other accomplishments, the veteran slugger has greatly strengthened his Hall of Fame case.


Thursday, May 26, 2016

Stew Thornley’s macabre adventure: Visiting every dead baseball Hall of Famer’s grave

I’d have to admire his tenacity. The most I’ve ever done is visit the graves of the deceased 300-game winners, and visit them again with a small figurine.

In the shorthand parlance of men and women who collect graveyard experiences, Thornley is what’s known as a “graver.” While his search for the plots of long gone standouts, such as Mordecai “Three Finger” Brown in Terre Haute, Indiana, or Rube Waddell in San Antonio, is nominally about allowing him to cross another name off his list, it’s about more than that.

“It’s really about the adventure,” Thornley said. “A lot of people think I do all this work, I go traveling around, I get there and I’m standing at this grave and I get some kind of cosmic connection like, ‘I never saw this guy play. But here I am!’

ajnrules Posted: May 26, 2016 at 10:52 AM | 58 comment(s)
  Beats: deaths in baseball, general, hall of fame

Friday, May 06, 2016

Kinsler approaching Hall of Fame pace, and not slowing down

With his single and two-run home run Tuesday, he’s at 1,551 hits. He has 199 stolen bases, 964 runs scored and 189 home runs.

According to Baseball Reference.com, he would become the 40th player in Major League history to hit those levels in all of those statistical categories – joining a big batch of current or soon-to-be Hall-of-Famers: Derek Jeter, Robin Yount, Craig Biggio, Hank Aaron, Barry Bonds and George Brett to name only a few.

His career WAR (wins above replacement) of 48.2 probably makes the same point. And yet, Kinsler still makes most all-underrated teams.

 

Barry`s_Lazy_Boy Posted: May 06, 2016 at 10:34 AM | 50 comment(s)
  Beats: hall of fame

Wednesday, March 23, 2016

Dwight Evans on the Baseball Hall of Fame: “I just don’t understand the mentality of the voting”

It’s not that Dwight Evans was a unique hitter. His 352.7 (Baseball-Reference) WAR Batting Runs have been matched by 89 other players. His fielding skills weren’t very unique, either. 194 players have more WAR Fielding Runs than Evans’ 66.3. But only 18 players in the history of the game have surpassed him in both categories.

There are 44 outfielders in the Hall of Fame, per Baseball-Reference.com’s Play Index tool. Were Evans to be inducted tomorrow, the longtime Boston Red Sox right fielder would be what Brian Kenny calls a middle class Hall of Famer. While Evans’ 127 OPS+ would tie for 34th best among Hall of Fame outfielders, his 66 defensive runs saved would be 10th best overall, his 66.9 Wins Above Replacement 18th best.

Statistically, Evans is better than a number of Hall of Famers, though maybe he didn’t have their luster. He peaked at 10.4 percent of the Baseball Writers Association of America’s vote for Cooperstown in 1998 and has yet to make an Expansion Era Committee ballot since becoming eligible with it in 2013. It’s uncertain if Evans will make the ballot when the group reconvenes this fall.


Thursday, February 25, 2016

Tommy John on Baseball Hall of Fame: ‘I’m being held back’

“My whole thing is, if you’d looked at the pitchers of my era on the number of ground ball outs to total outs, I had the best ratio in the history of baseball,” John said. “I was very, very good at what I did, and I wasn’t a strikeout pitcher. I was when I was in high school and all that. But I wasn’t when I became a pro. So I’m being held back because I didn’t conform to some sportswriter’s idea of what is good and what is not good.”

Dennis Eclairskey, closer Posted: February 25, 2016 at 10:56 PM | 118 comment(s)
  Beats: hall of fame, tommy john, veterans committee

Tuesday, February 16, 2016

Bobby Grich on Baseball Hall of Fame chances: ‘I’m not optimistic at all’

Except for the annoying autoplay video (scroll down), this is worth a click.

Jim Furtado Posted: February 16, 2016 at 02:29 PM | 146 comment(s)
  Beats: bobby grich, hall of fame

Wednesday, February 10, 2016

Brian Kenny: HALL OF FAME’S ANTI-RECENCY BIAS

Another part of the dynamic is the recent Veterans Committees shutdowns. It began when the Veterans Committee vote went to the Hall of Famers themselves. Those already in the club took Hall of Fame exclusivity to another level, failing to vote in a single new player during three votes over five years. Following that, the Hall Board of Directors changed the process to one with smaller voting panels, dividing the committee into three different segments that each voted on a different era. That means the players of the ‘80s and ‘90s—a group packed with solid candidates—would have to wait for a vote every three years, getting the same chance as the well-picked, thorough talent pool of the pre-1947 players, and the already well-represented 50s and 60s. In the past 15 years, the various Veterans Committees have elected just two players from the 20th century: Joe Gordon, who played in the 1940s, and the tragically overlooked Ron Santo, voted in a year after he died. Veteran’s Committee shutouts have kind of become a sad Winter Meetings tradition, with the Hall brass telling the national media no one was voted in, but how the disappointment is actually striking a blow for “exclusivity.”

Dennis Eclairskey, closer Posted: February 10, 2016 at 04:06 PM | 88 comment(s)
  Beats: brian kenny, hall of fame, veterans committee

Tuesday, February 02, 2016

Schoenfield: Top 5 Hall of Fame classes

Can’t fault the Cobb/Ruth/Wagner/Mathewson/Johnson entry, but what say you about the others?

reech Posted: February 02, 2016 at 05:27 PM | 49 comment(s)
  Beats: espn, hall of fame

Sunday, January 31, 2016

Tim Raines on getting into Hall of Fame: ‘It matters, but it doesn’t’

Currently the roving outfield and base running co-ordinator for the Toronto Blue Jays, the 56-year-old said he’s intrigued how the advanced statistics that have only recently become more prominent in the game are helping to make his case for induction.

“It’s kind of mind boggling,” said Raines, who was in Vancouver for a team function with the single-A Canadians. “I didn’t really know I did all those things those guys say I did.

“It’s quite interesting.”

Dennis Eclairskey, closer Posted: January 31, 2016 at 10:01 PM | 82 comment(s)
  Beats: hall of fame, montreal expos, sabrmetrics, tim raines

Thursday, January 28, 2016

Hall of Fame president Jeff Idelson: ‘We’re very comfortable with the process of election’

Graham Womack interviews Hall of Fame President Jeff Idelson.

SN: A couple years ago, the window of eligibility for the BBWAA to consider Hall of Fame candidates was shortened from 15 years to 10 years. Was this an effort at all to speed up the process of getting guys from the Steroid Era off the writers ballot and maybe considered by one of the committees?

JI: No. First of all, the rules for election for the writers and our various committee elections are constantly being reviewed. It’s something that’s front and center and a topic of mine among our staff here at the Hall of Fame and our board because it is so important. In reviewing our rules for election, we made tweaks in back-to-back years with the electorate itself and the 15 to 10.

Fifteen to 10 was put in place because if you look historically over the last 30, 35 years, only three players had earned election after the tenth ballot. To us, it just seemed to be not fair to have so many players sort of twisting in the wind another five years if they weren’t going to earn election. It does get those players to the Expansion Era Committee a little bit sooner but it was more of a reaction of helping to thin the ballots… Some of the writers concern was about not having enough slots to pick players. But more so again (we changed the rule) because it just doesn’t make sense to have players — who 99 percent of the time aren’t going to earn election — simply sitting on the ballot.

Jim Furtado Posted: January 28, 2016 at 09:16 AM | 68 comment(s)
  Beats: hall of fame, interviews

Friday, January 15, 2016

Chaz Scoggins on his HOF Vote for David Eckstein

1. HOF voters are supposed to vote for players to induct into the Hall of Fame.
2. Chaz Scoggins is a HOF voter.
3. Chaz Scoggins himself admits that David Eckstein is not a Hall of Famer.
4. Chaz Scoggins voted for David Eckstein.

This reminds me of some of the logic problems we were assigned to solve back in the 6th grade…

TJ Posted: January 15, 2016 at 04:00 PM | 24 comment(s)
  Beats: hall of fame

Monday, January 11, 2016

Nick Cafardo: The case for and against Manny Ramirez’s Hall of Fame bid - The Boston Globe

Ahh, no.

2. Another brilliant marketing move by Fenway Sports Group, introducing Tessie as Wally the Green Monster’s sister. It may lessen the appearance load for poor Wally.

Jim Furtado Posted: January 11, 2016 at 06:12 AM | 101 comment(s)
  Beats: hall of fame, indians, manny ramirez, notes, red sox

Friday, January 08, 2016

The Griffey “no” vote witchhunt is extreme.

I’m not worked up about this. Nevertheless, voter ballots should be public and voter should be expected to explain their thoughts on their ballots.

Jim Furtado Posted: January 08, 2016 at 12:44 PM | 204 comment(s)
  Beats: hall of fame, ken griffey jr.

Thursday, January 07, 2016

USA Today:  The 5 MLB teams without any Hall of Famers

Bryce Harper and Stephen Strasburg are both a long way off from securing their Hall credentials, but both players have Cooperstown-caliber talent.

TDF, situational idiot Posted: January 07, 2016 at 07:31 PM | 60 comment(s)
  Beats: hall of fame

Mariotti: Hall momentum for Bonds appalling

What am I missing? Barry Bonds cheated like a fiend, loading his swollen body with performance-enhancing drugs to break what once was sports’ most celebrated individual record. His connection to the BALCO cesspool was well-documented and voluminously detailed by skilled investigative reporters. He remains a heinous example of why teen athletes shouldn’t partake in steroids, which, when not halting heartbeats or rotting a user’s insides, have been known to kill.

Yet even so, because a younger electorate wants to change the world when it should concentrate on changing its underwear, a movement is on to eventually induct Bonds and fellow juicer Roger Clemens into the Hall of Fame. Is Gov. Jerry Brown, that dubious liberator of Robert Downey Jr. and other felons, now running the Baseball Writers’ Association of America?....

Especially bothersome Wednesday: Some respected veteran scribes have hopped on the Bonds train. I think they do it to avoid being mocked by younger writers, such as one who referred to former New York TImes reporter Murray Chass as “an independent online codger” — one who achieved far more success than will the crafter of that lame characterization.

This isn’t about who’s a millennial and who’s a baby boomer and who is somewhere in between. This is about integrity.

RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: January 07, 2016 at 11:17 AM | 101 comment(s)
  Beats: barry bonds, hall of fame, jay mariotti, millennials

Roger Clemens responds to Roy Halladay’s anti-PED tweet

The Blue Jays were using all these PEDs and couldn’t even win a division title????

Ahead of the National Baseball Hall of Fame’s announcement of the class of 2016 on Wednesday, former pitcher Roy Halladay tweeted his stance on allowing alleged PED users into the Hall.

“When you use PEDs you admit your not good enough to compete fairly!” Halladay wrote. “Our nations past time should have higher standards! No Clemens no Bonds!”

Halladay was referring to widespread suspicion that pitcher Roger Clemens and slugger Barry Bonds used performance-enhancing drugs during their playing careers.

After it was announced that Clemens and Bonds failed to garner the necessary votes for election for the fifth year in a row—Clemens received 45.2% of the vote and Bonds earned 44.3%—Clemens issued a statement, according to Mark Berman of Fox 26.

“I was asked to comment on the subject of the Hall of Fame once again by some of my friends in the media,” Clemens said. “I will say thank you again for those who took the time to vote. I have distanced myself from the subject and have moved on. Having said that, what is disheartening is getting a call or a text from family or friends about an ill informed player making an asinine statement. The latest coming from a former Blue Jays pitcher.

“Just to enlighten him, he was accused of using amphetamines by the ‘strength coach.’ You should be very careful when putting tweets out while not having your facts on the matter at hand.”

RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: January 07, 2016 at 11:09 AM | 27 comment(s)
  Beats: hall of fame, peds, roger clemens, roy halladay

Piazza, Mike | Baseball Hall of Fame

It doesn’t look like Piazza will be going into the Hall as a Dodger.

Hat tip to MetsMerized.

Jim Furtado Posted: January 07, 2016 at 09:52 AM | 52 comment(s)
  Beats: dodgers, hall of fame, mets, mike piazza

Predicting the next four HOF Classes (SportsOnEarth/Mack)

A clear-eyed look at the next four years of Hall of Fame voting.


Wednesday, January 06, 2016

Junior and Piazza elected to Hall of Fame

The first pick of the 1990 draft and the 1390th pick of the 1988 draft are going to Cooperstown. Griffey Jr. is the first #1 overall pick to be selected and Piazza is the lowest round pick (62cnd) ever selected and they go into together.


Baseball Hall of Fame selections: The Daily News ballots - NY Daily News

Three more ballots.

Jim Furtado Posted: January 06, 2016 at 10:45 AM | 47 comment(s)
  Beats: hall of fame

Baseball’s Hall Of Fame Is Stuck In The ’60s | FiveThirtyEight

The game is better than ever but recent players don’t get the Hall of Fame love.

Read an article that would get Murray Chass’ blood boiling!!

Jim Furtado Posted: January 06, 2016 at 06:47 AM | 57 comment(s)
  Beats: hall of fame

Buckley: Time for Hall voters to show it or lose it | Boston Herald

I agree 100%.

To take this a step further, I’m calling out the BBWAA: Public ballots should be mandatory.

While I remain firm in my belief the BBWAA does a mostly phenomenal job of determining Cooperstown worthiness, I’m also firm in my belief that baseball fans should be invited into the smoked-filled room to see how it all plays out.

Jim Furtado Posted: January 06, 2016 at 06:32 AM | 39 comment(s)
  Beats: hall of fame

Tuesday, January 05, 2016

FIVE THINGS LEARNED TALKING HALL OF FAME WITH MIKE LOWELL

“The Tim Raines thing really baffles me. I don’€™t think anybody would argue that Rickey Henderson isn’€™t a Hall of Famer. He’€™s absolultely a Hall of Famer, first ballot. I look at what Tim Raines did for a good 8-10 years in the National League and he’€™s basically Rickey Henderson.

“Schll’€™s another one. If you did something extraordinary in the postseason, you get bonus time. For me Curt was so outstanding, and had some moments, especially in ‘€™04 with the sock. I think those should push you over the edge. It’€™s not like he did it just once. He’€™s a guy who is lower than he should be. Edgar Martinez is another guy who should get more consideration.”

Jose Remains The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: January 05, 2016 at 06:45 PM | 25 comment(s)
  Beats: hall of fame, marlins, red sox

Are Curt Schilling’s GOP Politics Keeping Him Out of the Hall of Fame? - Bloomberg Politics

We’ll see what the vote is tomorrow.

Maybe you agree with Curt Schilling’s politics, and maybe you don’t. Maybe you think he’s obnoxious and should be a little quieter about his off-field beliefs to stop distracting people from what he did off the field, or maybe you think he should scream his views from the nearest mountaintop. What appears undeniable, a year after his comments, is that he was exactly right: His right-wing views have cost him votes. The proof is right there in the numbers. Here’s betting whatever Mike Mussina’s politics are, he makes sure to keep them to himself.

Jim Furtado Posted: January 05, 2016 at 11:28 AM | 95 comment(s)
  Beats: hall of fame

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