Baseball for the Thinking Fan

Login | Register | Feedback

btf_logo

News

All News | Prime News

Old-School Newsstand


Contributors

Jim Furtado
Founder & Publisher
Repoz
Editor - Baseball Primer

Syndicate

Jim Thorpe Newsbeat

Monday, April 24, 2017

Primer Dugout (and link of the day) 4-24-2017

Pittsburgh Press, April 24, 1917:

Manager Mathewson of the Cincinnati Nationals, announced that he had obtained the services of Jim Thorpe of the New York Nationals. The deal involved a straight sale, but the price was not announced.

1917 was the closest Thorpe came to being a regular in the big leagues, and he wasn’t awful. Thorpe hit .237/.275/.357 (96 OPS+) in 103 games, and legged out 10 triples in 308 at-bats. He put up 0.5 WAR, which isn’t great, but at least suggests that he deserved to be in the majors.

Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: April 24, 2017 at 10:26 AM | 35 comment(s)
  Beats: dugout, history, jim thorpe

Thursday, December 08, 2016

Primer Dugout (and link of the day) 12-8-2016

A sure sign that it’s the offseason from the Pittsburgh Press, December 8, 1916:

Jim Thorpe, the Indian ball player who was sent to the Milwaukee club last spring by Manager McGraw, is to get another chance with the Giants. It was announced [in New York] today that McGraw plans to play him regularly in one of the outfield positions, if he displays improvement.

This is, IIRC, the fourth consecutive offseason in which it was reported that Thorpe had a chance to be an everyday player for the Giants. Once again, it didn’t happen. The Giants sold Thorpe to Cincinnati in April 1917 and he played cromulently if unspectacularly (97 OPS+, 0.5 WAR) in a half season as a semi-regular corner outfielder. The Reds returned Thorpe to the Giants in August, where he returned to his customary position on the bench.

It’s admittedly a small sample size, but Thorpe hit .216/.262/.323 (77 OPS+) in his Giants career while McGraw jerked him in and out of the lineup for six years. With the Reds and Dodgers, Thorpe hit .278/.303/.391 (~115 OPS+). I’m not saying Jim Thorpe could have or would have been a good MLB outfielder in a different situation, but I am saying that McGraw doesn’t appear to have done him any favors.

Jefferson Manship (Dan Lee) Posted: December 08, 2016 at 10:17 AM | 7 comment(s)
  Beats: dugout, history, jim thorpe

 

 

News

All News | Prime News

Old-School Newsstand


BBTF Partner

Support BBTF

donate

Thanks to
BFFB
for his generous support.

Bookmarks

You must be logged in to view your Bookmarks.

Hot Topics

NewsblogThe New Generation of Ballparks Is Pushing Us Away
(60 - 10:32am, Apr 25)
Last: TDF, situational idiot

NewsblogInside the data-driven throwing program that helped revive Dan Straily’s career - Sun Sentinel
(1 - 10:31am, Apr 25)
Last: There are no words... (Met Fan Charlie)

NewsblogSportsGrid: Noah Syndergaard Hints That He Gets Killed In His ‘Game Of Thrones’ Scene
(21 - 10:31am, Apr 25)
Last: Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad)

NewsblogChicago Cubs' offense 'demoralizing' for opponents - Chicago Cubs Blog- ESPN
(5 - 10:30am, Apr 25)
Last: Brian C

NewsblogOTP 24 April 2017: Talking politics (and baseball) with the mayor
(226 - 10:28am, Apr 25)
Last: zonk

NewsblogCut4: The Pirates called up Dovydas Neverauskas, the first born-and-raised Lithuanian in MLB history
(5 - 10:25am, Apr 25)
Last: Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad)

NewsblogOT - March 2017 NBA thread
(2349 - 10:25am, Apr 25)
Last: jmurph

NewsblogAngels acquire David Hernandez to add to bullpen depth
(3 - 10:23am, Apr 25)
Last: JimMusComp likes Billy Eppler....

NewsblogWatch Matt Barnes Get Ejected For Throwing At Manny Machado Despite Foul Ball
(105 - 10:16am, Apr 25)
Last: Rickey! No. You move.

NewsblogThe Five New Pitches Making a Difference in 2017 – The Ringer
(1 - 10:02am, Apr 25)
Last: Jose is El Absurd Pollo

NewsblogCleveland Indians pitcher Steve Delabar suspended 80 games for positive PEDs test
(20 - 9:58am, Apr 25)
Last: snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster)

NewsblogWhat It's Like to Actually Pitch to Tebow
(8 - 9:29am, Apr 25)
Last: Adam Starblind

NewsblogMarty Appel on Casey Stengel's OBP, OPS+, His Managerial Career &...Reggie?
(1 - 9:22am, Apr 25)
Last: AROM

NewsblogWhat is wrong with Jose Bautista? - Beyond the Box Score
(35 - 8:40am, Apr 25)
Last: Random Transaction Generator

NewsblogPrimer Dugout (and link of the day) 4-24-2017
(35 - 6:19am, Apr 25)
Last: GGC for Sale

Page rendered in 1.0906 seconds
50 querie(s) executed