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Tuesday, January 07, 2014

Primer Dugout (and link of the day) 1-7-2014

Pittsburgh Press, January 7, 1913:

[If] Joe Tinker sticks to the Federal League, despite threatened court proceedings by the Brooklyn club, there will be a fine old row over the possession of the $15,000 certified check which C.H. Ebbetts [sic] recently handed over to [Reds President] Garry Herrmann…Vice President Edward J. McKeever of the Brooklyn club says the Cincinnati club must return the check if Tinker fails to report to Brooklyn…

Herrmann already has taken a different view of the matter. He has been quoted as saying that the Cincinnati club will not return the money inasmuch as the Brooklyn club had a fair chance to sign Tinker, but allowed the player to get away.

Tinker did end up in the Federal League, but I’m not sure what happened to the $15,000.

Monday, December 16, 2013

Primer Dugout (and link of the day) 12-16-2013

Pittsburgh Press, December 16, 1913:

August Herrmann, chairman of the National commission, denied a report…that he would resign as president of the Cincinnati baseball club, following the action of the board of directors in refusing to sanction the…sale of the deposed manager, Joseph B. Tinker, to the Brooklyn club for $25,000.
A great many Cincinnati fans are inclined to laugh at “Garry” these days. Until the past few days everyone thought he was the real owner of the Reds, but the action of the representatives of the [Julius] Fleischmann interests in the club has tended to show that the chairman of the National commission is not supreme in his own club, and that, though president, he must occasionally take orders as well as must the manager.

They should have pocketed the $25,000. As far as I know, they got nothing when Tinker jumped to the Federal League.

Thursday, December 12, 2013

Primer Dugout (and link of the day) 12-12-2013

Joe Tinker quoted in the Salt Lake Tribune, December 12, 1913:

Should any club other than the Cubs or Pirates land me I can only say I feel sorry for the magnate who made the transaction. Under no consideration will I play next season for New York, Brooklyn, Boston, St. Louis, or Philadelphia.

I’m sick of these star ballplayers like Joe Tinker and Albert Belle refusing to even consider playing in New York or Boston.

Dan Lee prefers good shortstops to great paintings Posted: December 12, 2013 at 06:38 AM | 9 comment(s)
  Beats: dugout, history, joe tinker

Wednesday, December 11, 2013

Primer Dugout (and link of the day) 12-11-2013

Toledo News-Bee, December 11, 1913:

With the bids for Joe Tinker, deposed manager of the Cincinnati Reds, being constantly raised, it was suggested Thursday that a good auctioneer mount a chair in peacock alley of the Waldorf hotel, and knock down the crack shortstop to the highest bidder of the National league.

Brooklyn is now prepared to pay $30,000 for Tinker, it was stated Thursday. Charles W. Murphy of the Chicago Cubs, just back from Europe said he “would outbid any other man” for Tinker’s services.

Yeah, well, he didn’t. Tinker jumped to the Chi-Feds for $12,000 a year, then played cromulently in 1914 and sparingly in 1915 before closing out his career with a cameo for the 1916 Cubs.

Dan Lee prefers good shortstops to great paintings Posted: December 11, 2013 at 06:46 AM | 7 comment(s)
  Beats: dugout, history, joe tinker

Tuesday, November 26, 2013

Primer Dugout (and link of the day) 11-26-2013

Milwaukee Sentinel, November 26, 1913:

It was officially announced by the board of directors of the Cincinnati baseball club late on Tuesday that Joe Tinker, manager of the team last season, would not manage it during the season of 1914. Inability to come to terms with Tinker is given as the reason for reaching this conclusion.
[From the Reds’ official statement:] The question involved did not pertain to salary. Mr. Tinker seemed to believe that he was entitled, if he again assumed the position of player manager of the reds [sic], to usurp all the authority vested by the stockholders in the executive officers and the board of directors of the company. Under these circumstances the directors decided not to re-engage Tinker as manager of the team for next year.

That’s the slightly more polite way to say “He’s a colossal pain in the butt and we no longer feel like dealing with his crap.”

Dan Lee prefers good shortstops to great paintings Posted: November 26, 2013 at 07:18 AM | 24 comment(s)
  Beats: dugout, history, joe tinker, reds

Thursday, October 31, 2013

Primer Dugout (and link of the day) 10-31-2013

Pittsburgh Gazette Times, October 31, 1913:

Manager Joe Tinker of the Cincinnati National League Club, [yesterday] signed a contract to manage the team for the season of 1914. The signing followed a lengthy conference between Tinker and [Reds president Gerry] Herrmann at which the policy of the club for next year was being discussed.
[This past summer] Tinker insisted that he could not build up a good team when President Herrmann continued to make trades without consulting him.

Meanwhile, it was hard for President Herrmann to build a good team when his manager was jumping to the Federal League. By the end of December 1913, Tinker was the shortstop/manager of the Chi-Feds.



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