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Sunday, August 12, 2018

10 Yrs Later - Reflecting on maybe the Craziest Red Sox Game Of All

Consider the basics:

- In the bottom of the first inning, the Red Sox took a 10-0 lead over the Texas Rangers, sparked by two 3-run home runs by David Ortiz.

- The Rangers rallied to take a 16-14 lead.

- The Sox responded, ultimately prevailing on a Kevin Youkilis 3-run home run with two outs in the 8thinning for a 19-17 win.

- The 36 runs scored tied a 58 (now 68)-year-old record for most runs scored in an American League game.

But what made this night truly bizarre, singularly weird under the baseball zodiac, Zany with a capital Z?

That would be the Red Sox starting pitcher.

The guy named Zink.

Charlie Zink.

This is a really cool piece that touches on the crazy game and Zink’s life since the game (he is a car salesman and seems content and happy).

 

Jose is an Absurd Force of Nature Posted: August 12, 2018 at 02:17 PM | 27 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: knuckleball, rangers, red sox

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   1. villageidiom Posted: August 12, 2018 at 03:02 PM (#5725391)
Nice article.

In the bottom of the first inning, the Red Sox took a 10-0 lead over the Texas Rangers, sparked by two 3-run home runs by David Ortiz.
His 6 RBI tied the MLB record for RBI in the first inning.
   2. Jose is an Absurd Force of Nature Posted: August 12, 2018 at 03:05 PM (#5725393)
My boss went to that game with his three kids who were under 10. He was in my seats (and the guy who had the tickets next to us) and they had a BLAST. The two boys both went onto play high school ball and are big baseball fans.
   3. puck Posted: August 12, 2018 at 04:14 PM (#5725411)
I remember hearing about Charlie Zink (BProspectus had him as the Sox #1 prospect??). I'm surprised that was his only major league game.
   4. Darren Posted: August 12, 2018 at 05:08 PM (#5725432)
I can picture Youk heading to first pumping his fist.
   5. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: August 12, 2018 at 05:12 PM (#5725433)
This game had everything including the pitchin' Zink.
   6. Colin Posted: August 12, 2018 at 06:19 PM (#5725449)
I like articles like this one. Reminds me of the story of Ron Wright, who also played only one game in the majors, one that did not go as he'd have hoped. I believe this was posted here many years ago:

https://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/15/sports/baseball/15wright.html
   7. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: August 12, 2018 at 06:32 PM (#5725454)
I'm mildly surprised that this game only lasted an hour and 8 minutes longer than the game that originally set the AL record for most combined runs.
   8. cardsfanboy Posted: August 12, 2018 at 06:49 PM (#5725458)
agree with post one, very nice article.
   9. Howie Menckel Posted: August 13, 2018 at 01:21 AM (#5725566)
last Ireland* man in MLB
(PJ Conlon has had a couple of cups of coffee for the Mets this year. he is from Northern Ireland, and whether that counts is..... complicated. I'm of County Mayo and Slaigo roots, and I'm willing to count him. it's 2018)

just for a taste of this rich and wonderful and another "1-and-done in MLB" life:

"Cleary helped to support his family with the cash he got pitching for Bay Parkway and the Puerto Rican Stars in the Metropolitan Baseball Association.

"It was during the Depression and my dad was out of work and a dollar was hard to come by," Cleary told author Richard Tellis. "When I played for the Puerto Rican Stars, I had to play under the name of Jose Hernandez 'cause I was also pitching for Commerce High. One night at Roosevelt Stadium in New Jersey, I was warming up on the sidelines to pitch against the Union City Reds, and the public address announcer says, 'And pitching for the Puerto Rican Stars, number such-and-such, Jose Hernandez.'

Now the Union City manager was standing right next to me on the field. And here I am, red-haired, blue-eyed, you know Irish all over, and he looks at me in disbelief and says, 'Jose Hernandez!'"
   10. Howie Menckel Posted: August 13, 2018 at 01:27 AM (#5725567)
and of course, John Paciorek
"Wagner’s book focuses on the one-game MLB career of John Paciorek (September 29, 1963 – the last day of the 1963 season). In that contest, the 18-year-old Houston Colt .45’s outfielder was truly perfect: five trips to the plate – five times on base (three hits and two walks); four runs scored, three runs driven in; four errorless plays in the outfield.

A perfect start to what Paciorek – and many others – expected to be a long and successful major league career. Yet, as Wagner tells it, after his fifth trip to the plate in that day’s 13-4 Houston win over the Mets: “Paciorek knew he would not bat again that day, or that season.

He had no way of knowing, however, that he would never again swing at a major league pitch. He would never catch another ball, or have the opportunity to prevent a runner from scoring with a dazzling throw. Other than a few practice tosses he would receive from center fielder (Ivan) Murrell as the players warmed up for the last half inning of play, he would not touch a baseball again in the major leagues.”
   11. Hysterical & Useless Posted: August 13, 2018 at 05:35 AM (#5725570)
he is from Northern Ireland, and whether that counts is..... complicated


I think the position of the Republic is that anybody from anywhere on the island is Irish, no matter what the bloody Saxons say. Used to be (might still be) if you had a parent or grandparent born anywhere in Ireland pre-partition you could qualify for citizenship. Pisses me off that my mother never took advantage of that (she had at least one grandparent from Ulster); if she'd been a citizen, I could've citizenship too. Makes traveling so much easier.
   12. Phil Coorey. Posted: August 13, 2018 at 05:49 AM (#5725571)
I lost my mind during this game which was rare for me back then....
   13. BDC Posted: August 13, 2018 at 08:39 AM (#5725577)
Just in terms of ethnicity/nationality, even the most Orange-Ordery northern Protestants think of themselves as Irish. What else would they be? They want to remain in the UK, but there are Scottish and Welsh people who want to remain in the UK, and they're still Scottish and Welsh.

It takes a Catholic republican with a very long memory to think of Orangemen as Scottish. There are probably still such types around.
   14. Fernigal McGunnigle Posted: August 13, 2018 at 12:24 PM (#5725742)
Just in terms of ethnicity/nationality, even the most Orange-Ordery northern Protestants think of themselves as Irish. What else would they be?
In surveys back in the '80s they'd refer to themselves as "British"; Northern Irish Protestants were the only people who thought of themselves primarily as British. I have no idea what the situation is now.
   15. Fernigal McGunnigle Posted: August 13, 2018 at 12:39 PM (#5725756)
I like articles like this one. Reminds me of the story of Ron Wright, who also played only one game in the majors, one that did not go as he'd have hoped.
I saw Wright play 7 or 8 times in single-A Durham, on a team with Andruw Jones. Wright was an absolute beast; he had the sort of power you never saw in the Carolina League, and hit a couple of truly monstrous home runs in games I attended. In 1996 at least, guys in the Carolina League did not, as a rule, hit monster home runs, so seeing a guy hit two really stuck in your head. Wright ended up one off of the league lead in homers despite getting promoted early only playing in about half as many league games as the co-leaders (Jose Guillen and Freddy Garcia). Wright and Jones were easily the best two position player prospects I saw in Durham in the ten or so years I went to a lot of games there, a period that included Chipper Jones, David Justice, and Ron Gant.* When the Braves included Wright in the trade for Denny Neagle I thought it was a huge loss for them. Then Wright hurt his back and had the big nerve running to his leg clipped during the surgery, and that was that.

* I was a bit too young to see the greatest hitting single-A Bull of them all, Brad Komminsk, play.
   16. Jose is an Absurd Force of Nature Posted: August 13, 2018 at 01:07 PM (#5725781)
Phil!!!! Good to see you sir!

I lost my mind during this game which was rare for me back then....


Um...
   17. villageidiom Posted: August 13, 2018 at 02:42 PM (#5725851)
Yeah, I was going to question that too. Phil, are you losing your mind more now?
   18. PepTech, the Legendary Posted: August 13, 2018 at 03:01 PM (#5725866)
This thread and the talk on the Bote thread about crazy Cubs games led me to thinking about my own franchise; the M's have lost after being up 12-0 and won after being down 12-2, but for drama nothing beats Game 5 of a series that featured 64 lead changes and 37 ties. I'm sure every team has their all-time games...
   19. jmurph Posted: August 13, 2018 at 03:09 PM (#5725871)
I understand the premise of the article but technically the craziest Red Sox game of all time will forever be the day that Pedro almost killed Don Zimmer.
   20. Jose is an Absurd Force of Nature Posted: August 13, 2018 at 04:14 PM (#5725906)
This thread and the talk on the Bote thread about crazy Cubs games led me to thinking about my own franchise; the M's have lost after being up 12-0


This is one of the most underrated games in baseball history. The Mariners had that truly historic collapse (I'm pretty sure that's the biggest lead a team has ever blown) and in so doing finished with "only" 116 wins instead of a record setting 117.

And two years later the Tigers had to come from 8-0 in the last three innings on the penultimate day of the season to avoid equaling the Mets modern record of 120 losses.
   21. Jose is an Absurd Force of Nature Posted: August 13, 2018 at 04:22 PM (#5725910)
I understand the premise of the article but technically the craziest Red Sox game of all time will forever be the day that Pedro almost killed Don Zimmer.


Strange Red Sox games in recent memory;

2009 - Blew a 10-1 lead to Baltimore after a long rain delay in a game that featured the Sox running off the field en masse after the second out of an inning.
2003 - Zimmer/Pedro
2003 - G3LDS, Byrnes tagged out as he jogs back to the dugout after Varitek blocks him off the plate, Tejada stops running on interference call, Nixon walk off HR
2001 - Pedro plunks Gerald Williams in the first, retires 26 in a row afterwards. Devil Rays spend the rest of the game trying to kill Brian Daubach (he gets hit 3 times), I believe the Rays had 4 managers/acting managers tossed and a bunch of pitchers.
1986 - Sox give up 3 in the top of the 12th, score 4 in the bottom, dropped pop up by Burleson keeps game alive, Sox win on a walk off balk
1986 - Sox win in the fog in Cleveland. "That's what you get for building a park on the ocean."
   22. Howie Menckel Posted: August 13, 2018 at 04:22 PM (#5725911)
Tigers finished the 2003 season 5-1 to get to 43-119, to boot

Mets debuted in 1962 to a 40-120 mark, so the Tigers actually were worse before that "torrid spell"
   23. SoSH U at work Posted: August 13, 2018 at 05:35 PM (#5725959)
2009 - Blew a 10-1 lead to Baltimore after a long rain delay in a game that featured the Sox running off the field en masse after the second out of an inning.


Highlights of that game were shown on the big board Saturday night at Camden. Alas, this Birds team doesn't have that kind of comeback in them.
   24. Infinite Yost (Voxter) Posted: August 13, 2018 at 05:56 PM (#5725974)
In surveys back in the '80s they'd refer to themselves as "British"; Northern Irish Protestants were the only people who thought of themselves primarily as British. I have no idea what the situation is now.


This goes way back among Irish Protestants; there's a part in Joyce's "The Dead" (written in 1914 or so) in which Gabriel Conroy is mocked as a "West Briton", which I was lead to believe was a way of accusing him of being a fancified proddy with pretentions of Englishness. This is all dimly remembered from an essay I read in 1999, but I think Irish-born unionists were prone to calling themselves that.
   25. A triple short of the cycle Posted: August 13, 2018 at 06:47 PM (#5726018)
Byrnes tagged out as he jogs back to the dugout after Varitek blocks him off the plate, Tejada stops running on interference call

Oh hey, thanks for the reminder of that. Pretty sure I wrote a "goodbye, cruel baseball" post on Primer the next morning.
   26. Jose is an Absurd Force of Nature Posted: August 13, 2018 at 06:59 PM (#5726031)
A friend who did marketing work for ARAMARK at the time got pulled in to work the A’s owner’s box during that series. He was in there when that play happened and he said it was the scariest few seconds of his life. They lost their #### (like most Athletic supporters I imagine). He said it was the whole nine yards, cursing, glasses flying and breaking, pacing angrily.
   27. Howie Menckel Posted: August 13, 2018 at 07:23 PM (#5726047)
I like Rory McIlroy and any others from Northern Ireland I've seen. They look just like me and talk a lot like my ancestors did.

But being subjects of a ####### monarchy? God Save the Queen?

That gets my Irish up, frankly.*

(* - Howie Menckel is a pseudonym. all of my grandparents were born on the Old Sod.)

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