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Friday, June 12, 2009
Singular lore of yore…
Caught stealing four times in one game. Accomplished by Robby Thompson, San Francisco Giants, June 27, 1986. It was a 12-inning game and the Giants kept sending their “fast” rookie, Thompson. And he kept getting caught. Four times.
What makes that even crazier is that, in the 149 games he played that season, he only successfully stole 12 bases (and was caught 15 times). So by late June, the Giants should’ve figured out that maybe he wasn’t the track star they thought he was.
FWIW, I love this guy’s site, as I imagine will a number of pop-culture interested (not obsessed) Primates with an obvious love of sports. Too bad he’s a Cleveland fan.
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There was the famous Nig Clarke eight-homer game, in the Texas League in 1902.
Glad someone noted that, and it's not likely that there've ever been any other 51 to 3 games, either.
When those Dodgers made their initial visit to the 1962 Mets (on Memerial weekend Sunday, IIRC) and swept two, their 5-4 win in game 2 was done without leaving anyone on base. This was aided by the Mets turning a TP on a Willie Davis liner to Elio Chacon at short.
My OLD (1950s, and long gone) Baseball Encyclopedia showed just one person credited with 2 sacrifices in one inning (and that book differentiated between sac bunts and sac flies). That's almost as weird as a batter stealing 2nd on 2 PA in the same inning, though it might make sense for a pitcher batting .043.
Ken Johnson did it in 1964
Stu Miller and Steve Barber combined to do it sometime in that same era.
The change in the definition of a no-hitter in the '90s took one away from Andy Hawkins, who had lost one as a visiting pitcher, meaning he didn't get to pitch the ninth inning. Pity, because it also deprived him of the singular feat of giving up 4 runs while pitching a no-hitter.
Matt Young was later deprived of a no-hitter by the same rule: that a visiting pitcher cannot, by definition, lose a no-hit game (unless, of course, the game goes extra innings)
That's not the only game, though it does seem to be the only game where the one-hit team won the game.
Here's the list from BR. There are a total of 7 games in the Retrosheet era where a team's only hit was a home run and where there were no other base runners (bb, hbp, reach-on-error). The most recent game happened between the Tigers and Rangers on May 5, 1996, when Roger Pavlik one hit Detroit. Mark Lewis broke up the perfecto in the 5th.
Other than the Orioles game DCW3 mentioned, the two most interesting games were:
April 20, 1990, M's @ A's: Pinch hitter Ken Phelps broke up the perfect game with a home run with 2 outs in the bottom of the 9th.
May 13, 1954, Reds @ Phils: Bobby Adams led off the game with a home run off of Robin Roberts. The Reds didn't have a baserunner after that.
Must have been some pretty good games to be at...
That's the whole point of the exercise though. The Blue Jays vs. the White Sox was the only 9-inning game where the winning team had 0 baserunners.
Edit: It's not on your list because there were two solo homers.
Still, the A's and Phils games I highlighted above are two pretty interesting games in their own right, even if they were from the losing team.
Edit: And I just did a quick check and expanded it to 2 home runs (and three and four), and that Toronto/Chicago game is the only other win like it.
It's also a piece of trivia which has been repeated enough that it's moving into the category of "everyone knows" even though it's false - I've read multiple books which told the HR/3B tidbit as firm fact.
Bill James noted that game in one of his HBAs, as the fewest batters possible faced in a complete game: 13 for the visiting (and losing) pitcher.
well the home team could score in the bottom of the ninth on an error. (but yes we get what you are saying, stupid rule to be honest)
To be fair, it was another of Roger Craig's brain farts to have Brenly at third base anyway.
I'm not sure that would count CFB (although I personally support the position voiced by Jeff and David). I think MLB is only recognizing 27-out (or more) no-hitters. If so, virtually all walk-off wins would end short of 9 complete innings.
If so, the only way a the visiting pitcher can record a no-hitter in a nine-inning game would be if the game ended on one of those mismanaged appeal play situations that occasionally allow for a run to score (or, more accurately, posted on the scoreboard) after the third out has been recorded.
And should that ever happen, I think that would be a feat that would never be duplicated.
Also, in 2003, I got sweet tix (15 rows behind home plate) at Wrigley, comped by Shawn Estes, making that the only time in history Estes came through for a Giants fan.
I'm having a hard time finding a link for this now, but this was widely reported in DFW. Hell, it's basically the day that Mark Teixeira became a first baseman.
Hell, the Atlanta team in the Negro Leagues was known as the Atlanta Black Crackers, after the Atlanta Crackers team in the Southern Association. Similar to the New York Black Yankees.
Another interesting historical footnote along this line is that back in 1947, when Florida State students voted to name their team the Seminoles, the runnerup in the student vote was---Crackers. Too bad it didn't win, since it would have spared us all those godawful tomahawk chop chants, both in Tallahassee and Atlanta.
There were likely scores of pre-WWII movies, including at least one in William Powell's The Thin Man series, where "that's mighty white of you" was used. That was a common playground expression well into the 50's, and probably later.
And then of course there's Fawlty Towers, and the Major's famous rambling speech about a woman he once took to "India."
Clint Eastwood (Harry) was trying to get a black militant group to help him stop a terrorist group called The People's Revolutionary Strike Force. The leader of the black group said he would only speak with Harry, not his partner (Tyne Daly). The camera panned around to show a group of tough looking black guys and I think one of them said they wouldn't hurt her. Clint responded, "That's mighty white of you."
All of the early Dirty Harry movies were politically incorrect for their time, the 1970s. In a sense, Harry was a vigilante with a badge. A big theme in The Enforcer was that women should not be cops. A group of black thugs in the original Dirty Harry conducts a violent robbery, to which Harry responds by shooting and killing a bunch of them. One black guy gets out onto the street, where Harry stands over him and famously says: At the end of the movie, he has a different guy, this time the white bad guy, cornered, and he repeats the line to him:
Robin Ventura would like a word with you. Heck, it's got it's own Wikipedia page.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Slam_Single
That's not what the original poster was referring to. Molina hit a ball the umps ruled went off the right field wall and he stopped at first. He was subsequently replaced with a pinch-runner. Replay determined it was a homer, but Molina was not allowed to re-enter the game and was the pinch-runner was credited with the run scored.
It should be noted that BBRef doesn't see it this way, so perhaps the ump's decision was later overruled.
As for Ventura, he was credited with a single, and is likely not the only player to hit a ball over the fence and not score a run (more likely as the result of missing a base or passing a runner).
That can't be too rare; the cardinals did it just the other day against the Marlins.
Pre-WWII? The most famous use of that line was not in After The Thin Man, which did use it. More famously, it was uttered in a 1976 Dirty Harry movie called, "The Enforcer."
Clint Eastwood (Harry) was trying to get a black militant group to help him stop a terrorist group called The People's Revolutionary Strike Force. The leader of the black group said he would only speak with Harry, not his partner (Tyne Daly). The camera panned around to show a group of tough looking black guys and I think one of them said they wouldn't hurt her. Clint responded, "That's mighty white of you."
I'm just working my way to many of those 70's movies that I missed at the time, Rich, so thanks for pointing this out. But the fact that you use the words "most famously" to describe Eastwood's use of the expression more or less illustrates the point I was trying to make: In 1936, William Powell's "that's mighty white of you" in After The Thin Man wasn't "famous" at all. It was just another throwaway line. It's only jarring to the modern ear, because in 1936 it was utterly commonplace in everyday usage, with no more shock value than "motherfukcer" has in all but the most straightlaced contexts today.
Uh, what? That can't be right. If replay determined it was a homer, then Molina would never officially be on first to be able to be replaced with a pinch runner (absent Gabe Kapler.) If this isn't black letter in the rule book, it should be.
It really is remarkable how casually used racial slurs were back in the day.
If "back in the day" means "Christmas this year at extended family in Louisiana" and "remarkable" means "sadly not at all surprising", then yes. I figured the Obama victory would have set off the older relations who still unabashedly use terms as comically anachronistic and over-the-top racist as (obvious warning ahead) 'porch monkey', jigaboo, and spearchucker. I was very disheartened to see the reactions of a couple of aunts and uncles that I had thought were at least mildly enlightened.
Kapler hit the homer and tore his Achilles' rounding first. After a conference it was deemed that since the ball was dead, the Sox could replace him.
This does remind of another rare feat: striking out after only seeing two pitches. I may be recalling slightly wrong, but a mid-AB replacement is never charged with the K if that's the result, so I'd imagine it has to be that someone has seen one or two strikes, gotten injured, and hung with the strikeout of the replacement.
Ah, but the catcher still ended up with a putout! He caught a foul ball behind home plate.
What does Jesus Flores have to do with this?
Nitpick: Second base, and Graffanino hit the homer, not Kapler.
Ken Holtzman threw a no-hitter that way.
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