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2011 World Series Game 6 CHATTER (TAKE TWO!)

Let’s try this again:

Rangers (Lewis) at Cardinals (Garcia). 8:05. FOX.

Rangers lead series 3-2.

Gamingboy Posted: October 27, 2011 at 12:48 PM | 1811 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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1901. PreservedFish Posted: October 28, 2011 at 04:56 AM (#3979276)

edit: Not close. 2008 ASG was 32 pages.

Surely this was a tangent on mayonnaise or some such subject.

1902. Dag Nabbit has the talking pillow Posted: October 28, 2011 at 04:57 AM (#3979277)

Joe Buck finally made me happy with his hat tip to his dad's 91 series call.

The thing is, he's already done it before. He's just an unoriginal ####.

I'll give him a tremendous pass on that one. He can do it all the time on postseason walk-offs in would-be elimination calls. His dad's 1991 Game Six call is an all-time classic.

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Ranking overall postseasons in the LDS era:

1. 2003 453.2
2. 2004 440.8
3. 1995 406.5
4. 1999 376.3
5. 1997 335
6. 2009 333.5
7. 2011 331.2
8. 2001 321

If tomorrow is anything other than a complete thudder, it should make the top five. It needs to be a legendary game to make it higher than that, though.

1903. Slivers of Maranville (SdeB) Posted: October 28, 2011 at 04:57 AM (#3979278)

Is this the longest chatter thread ever now?

edit: Not close. 2008 ASG was 32 pages.

We still have time!

1904. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: October 28, 2011 at 04:58 AM (#3979279)

Babe Ruth is lower in part because he went 0-5 at the plate, with a sacrifice. -.224 batting WPA against a 1.084 pitching WPA

1905. Nolan Giesbrecht Posted: October 28, 2011 at 04:58 AM (#3979280)

What a weird, weird day. I only sporadically watched the first part of the game as I got hooked on watching the Jets beat the Flyers 9-8 in the weirdest hockey I have ever seen. I then devoted my attention to game [guess I missed some pretty sloppy defense]and, well, wow.

Hope they go into extras again tomorrow as I am going to see the Winnipeg Blue Bombers' last regular season game at their old stadium.

1906. Phil Coorey. Posted: October 28, 2011 at 04:59 AM (#3979282)

Surely this was a tangent on mayonnaise or some such subject.

That game lasted forever

1907. Dan Contilli Posted: October 28, 2011 at 04:59 AM (#3979283)

Let's just be clear. Nobody thinks the Cardinals are actually a more talented club than the Rangers, do they? This is all Washington screwing up and the Rangers having a loser mentality based on their zero WS titles, right?

1908. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: October 28, 2011 at 04:59 AM (#3979284)

Much appreciated. That said, by doing all the math on the fly with additions and subtractions as I go along, I might be off by a few points. Nothing in Excel, just a pad, pen, and calculater.

Shades of Tim Russert during the 2000 election with the white board. Great stuff.

1909. Yardape Posted: October 28, 2011 at 04:59 AM (#3979285)

Isn't it 10 PM west coast time now, so the local news is indeed just about to start? What do the stations do to fill the next 6 minutes?

Local news comes on at 11 here.

1910. Shock Posted: October 28, 2011 at 04:59 AM (#3979286)

got hooked on watching the Jets beat the Flyers 9-8 in the weirdest hockey I have ever seen.

Holy ####, I missed that one.

1911. Gern Blanston Posted: October 28, 2011 at 04:59 AM (#3979287)

Seriously--The Sandpipers? While watching the greatest game 6 ever? What kind of surreal life do I lead here?

1912. Eric J can SABER all he wants to Posted: October 28, 2011 at 05:00 AM (#3979289)

Ranking overall postseasons in the LDS era:

I have it in 4th already, and that's not counting tonight at all. The gap from 4th to 3rd is big enough that '11 might not have made the jump yet, but it'll be incredibly close, and will probably pass 2004 and have a decent shot at 1995 for the #2 spot.

To catch 2003, though, it'll probably need another game just like this one. (Which would be just fine with me, although I'd prefer a different outcome.)

1913. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: October 28, 2011 at 05:01 AM (#3979292)

Let's just be clear. Nobody thinks the Cardinals are actually a more talented club than the Rangers, do they?

No one other than Cards fans.

This is all Washington screwing up and the Rangers having a loser mentality based on their zero WS titles, right?

Mostly it's just baseball. The Cards are probably 3-6 games worse than the Rangers, which gives them something like a 40% chance to win the series from the get-go.

You gotta win the games to win the series.

1914. Norcan Posted: October 28, 2011 at 05:01 AM (#3979293)

I felt bad for Texas kids who must have been filled with dread and hope on those two strikes/two outs pitches. If Texas ends up losing, it has to leave a mark.

Perversely, I also enjoy the shots of middle-aged women worrying themselves out to the point of collapsing. It adds spice to the game.

1915. Eric J can SABER all he wants to Posted: October 28, 2011 at 05:01 AM (#3979294)

Babe Ruth is lower in part because he went 0-5 at the plate, with a sacrifice. -.224 batting WPA against a 1.084 pitching WPA

Fair enough. I usually don't hold batting WPA against pitchers, though (although I can see making an exception for Ruth).

1916. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: October 28, 2011 at 05:02 AM (#3979295)

I felt bad for Texas kids who must have been filled with dread and hope on those two strikes/two outs pitches. If Texas ends up losing, it has to leave a mark.

Yeah, you could argue that losing this series could make and shape a generation of Rangers fans.

1917. Gern Blanston Posted: October 28, 2011 at 05:03 AM (#3979298)

Rangers are gonna win.

1918. McCoy Wilfong for Money Posted: October 28, 2011 at 05:04 AM (#3979300)

WEll, this might just push the overall ratings into double digits.

1919. Guapo Posted: October 28, 2011 at 05:04 AM (#3979301)

Texas is done.

1920. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: October 28, 2011 at 05:05 AM (#3979302)

Yeah, you could argue that losing this series could make and shape a generation of Rangers fans.

O I see whut u did thur.

1921. MM1f Posted: October 28, 2011 at 05:05 AM (#3979303)

I felt bad for Texas kids who must have been filled with dread and hope on those two strikes/two outs pitches. If Texas ends up losing, it has to leave a mark.
Yeah, you could argue that losing this series could make and shape a generation of Rangers fans.

Ok, well... screw those kids. I grew up a Braves fan. I know postseason pain. Texas kids should consider themselves lucky that they might get an early lesson on the world being a brutal, mean, dream-crushing place.

1922. Nolan Giesbrecht Posted: October 28, 2011 at 05:05 AM (#3979304)

Holy ####, I missed that one.

The Jets blew two 4 run leads. Went from leading 6-4 at the start of the third to losing 7-6 three minutes later. Tied it up, then lost the lead again on a giveaway by Ladd who promptly scored the winning goal with a minute left.

And as I type this, I'm struck by the similarities between the two games.

1923. Eric J can SABER all he wants to Posted: October 28, 2011 at 05:05 AM (#3979305)

Texas is done.

So you're saying It's Over?

1924. BourbonSamurai, vassal of the Harpsburg Empire Posted: October 28, 2011 at 05:07 AM (#3979309)

Just posting to register my opinion:

so awesome. I missed the game chatter watching on the dvr.

1925. Dan Contilli Posted: October 28, 2011 at 05:07 AM (#3979310)

David Freese is like Mike Fontenot's Arnold Schwarzenegger twin.

1926. Dr. Vaux Posted: October 28, 2011 at 05:09 AM (#3979314)

A World Series that doesn't feature the best team in both leagues* can't be near the top of the list.

* In years when there was a clear best team that didn't make it in one of the leagues.

1927. Random Transaction Generator Posted: October 28, 2011 at 05:10 AM (#3979317)

Altered Onion headline works here...

1928. LionoftheSenate (feels sorry for the Pirates) Posted: October 28, 2011 at 05:18 AM (#3979319)

Not only were Rangers a strike away, twice!, I just watched Nelson Cruz, his glove was 20inchesI away from catching the 3rd and final out. Tough play, but one he appeared psyched out on.

1929. Gern Blanston Posted: October 28, 2011 at 05:23 AM (#3979322)

Not only were Rangers a strike away, twice!, I just watched Nelson Cruz, his glove was 20inchesI away from catching the 3rd and final out. Tough play, but one he appeared psyched out on.

Cruz's route to that ball was shite, even after he took a misstep inward. He should've had it.

1930. Forsch 10 From Navarone (Dayn)

Posted: October 28, 2011 at 05:24 AM (#3979324)

Let's just be clear. Nobody thinks the Cardinals are actually a more talented club than the Rangers, do they?

I, a Cardinal fan, do not. The Rangers are pretty clearly the superior team, but I'm just enjoying/not enjoying this incredible series for what it is.

1931. Dag Nabbit has the talking pillow Posted: October 28, 2011 at 05:24 AM (#3979325)

Yeah, you could argue that losing this series could make and shape a generation of Rangers fans.

Ain't that the truth.

1932. Karl from NY Posted: October 28, 2011 at 05:24 AM (#3979326)

Fair enough. I usually don't hold batting WPA against pitchers, though (although I can see making an exception for Ruth).

Pitcher batting WPA could be calibrated against typical pitcher hitting rather than league average hitting, right? Do any of the WPA sources do so?

1933. Don Malcolm

Posted: October 28, 2011 at 05:29 AM (#3979330)

Heart-in-throat minutes all over the place...if tomorrow is anything like G2, G5 and tonight we will all be part of an endangered species.

Wacky, wayward, wanton...wonderful.

The collective ERA of the 2011 post-season edges ever upward...now at 4.64.

So sorry it has to end, but there is nothing better than a winner-take-all game.

1934. Esoteric throws a 'hard slider' Posted: October 28, 2011 at 05:29 AM (#3979331)

A World Series that doesn't feature the best team in both leagues* can't be near the top of the list.

Bitter much?

1935. Norcan Posted: October 28, 2011 at 05:31 AM (#3979334)

Not only were Rangers a strike away, twice!, I just watched Nelson Cruz, his glove was 20inchesI away from catching the 3rd and final out. Tough play, but one he appeared psyched out on.

It looked like he was hoping against hope that it would be a routine flyball he could come in on and then proceed to run madly into the infield where he could celebrate with his teammates in a dogpile. It was like he acted out the dream scenario first only to realize that, Oh no, the ball's still coming, my dream is a hoax, I'm doomed.

1936. Sunday silence Posted: October 28, 2011 at 05:31 AM (#3979335)

I dont know how you guys measusre these things, that was the Greatest sporting event Ive ever seen.

1937. cardsfanboy

Posted: October 28, 2011 at 05:35 AM (#3979342)

This is the most awful great world series game I've ever seen.

I'm catching up on this thread, and just as a reminder, this comment was posted in the seventh inning.....

I told my brother this was arguably the third greatest world series game of all time(yes the miscues are part of the story)

1938. Sunday silence Posted: October 28, 2011 at 05:35 AM (#3979343)

I sat through every pitch of that game 6 in 1975. I didnt even think that series was better than the 72 series until I saw the sports illutsrated with the "Series to Shout About" cover. So I guess it was supposedly better.

But having seen that game; this one was even more exciting and more crazier at least as I recall. What am I missing?

1939. a bebop a rebop Posted: October 28, 2011 at 05:41 AM (#3979350)

Registering one last comment before I sleep it off: Ray DiPerna is a gleefully heartless bastard.

1940. Dan Contilli Posted: October 28, 2011 at 05:45 AM (#3979354)

I dont know how you guys measusre these things, that was the Greatest sporting event Ive ever seen.

I still think Boise St.-Oklahoma in the Fiesta Bowl was the best sports moment I've ever seen, because of the Statue of Liberty play for the win on the two point conversion. I don't even like college football either, but that game was an absolute clinic on play calling as the underdog.

Tonight's game was up there, though.

Every time they show a devastated Nolan Ryan I wonder if Robin Ventura is at home laughing.

1941. LionoftheSenate (feels sorry for the Pirates) Posted: October 28, 2011 at 05:46 AM (#3979356)

Just saw Ron Washington in postgame. Actually said good things seems level headed and ready for tomorrow. We'll see.

1942. Adam M

Posted: October 28, 2011 at 05:59 AM (#3979374)

Level headed in a "making rational decisions" way or in a "cartoon character who just had a safe fall on his head" way?

1943. Sunday silence Posted: October 28, 2011 at 06:38 AM (#3979400)

more like a thorazine inflicted crash down...

1944. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: October 28, 2011 at 06:45 AM (#3979402)

Boise St. - Oklahoma makes Friday Night Lights endings look realistic. I mean, the guy wins the game on a freakin' Statue of Liberty play... AND IMMEDIATELY PROPOSES TO HIS GIRLFRIEND, WHO ACCEPTS!

How has there not a movie being made of this yet?

I'm hoping tomorrow's game is as good as this one.

1945. Fred Lynn Nolan Ryan Sweeney Agonistes Posted: October 28, 2011 at 06:54 AM (#3979406)

Boise St. - Oklahoma makes Friday Night Lights endings look realistic. I mean, the guy wins the game on a freakin' Statue of Liberty play... AND IMMEDIATELY PROPOSES TO HIS GIRLFRIEND, WHO ACCEPTS!

OK, whew - now I'm not proposing until I win a softball tournament on an inside-the-park grand slam.
It's gotta happen eventually, right?

1946. cardsfanboy

Posted: October 28, 2011 at 07:04 AM (#3979411)

Beltre was about to crash into the wall for that ball. I hope Cruz was taking notes on how to go back on a ball.

I'm at a bar watching the game and I made the loud comment "be careful" in that I know what type of injuries could happen on that play... and of course another Cardinal fan chatised me for caring about the other team...

1947. cardsfanboy

Posted: October 28, 2011 at 07:06 AM (#3979412)

Of course that dropped. It wouldn't be this game otherwise.

I can't express the amount of laughter I got reading this comment. Mind you I'm reading it after the game is over, but still, thanks.

1948. Joltin' Joe Orsulak Posted: October 28, 2011 at 07:12 AM (#3979416)

Ok, well... screw those kids. I grew up an ~~Braves~~ Orioles fan. I know ~~postseason~~ pain. Texas kids should consider themselves lucky that they might get an early lesson on the world being a brutal, mean, dream-crushing place.

FIFY

1949. Sunday silence Posted: October 28, 2011 at 07:14 AM (#3979417)

I still think Boise St.-Oklahoma in the Fiesta Bowl was the best sports moment I've ever seen, because of the Statue of Liberty play for the win on the two point conversion.

yeah there's a lot to cover. That Steelers/Cowboys Superbowl the Jackie Smith game is up there as those two went back and forth the whole second half. Or Ali/Frazier III. This game seemed to go back and forth for an eternity..I dont know I'm still jacked up.

1950. cardsfanboy

Posted: October 28, 2011 at 07:24 AM (#3979419)

Lance Berkman's WPA was .817, and he was second on the team. Second!

does his teamates number include his own error?

1951. cardsfanboy

Posted: October 28, 2011 at 07:40 AM (#3979423)

Let's just be clear. Nobody thinks the Cardinals are actually a more talented club than the Rangers, do they? This is all Washington screwing up and the Rangers having a loser mentality based on their zero WS titles, right?

Offensively I have the Cardinals at the advantage, bullpen wise also goes to the Rangers starting pitching it's not even close, the Rangers win in a landslide. Heck the Cardinals are better equipped to handle a DH game than the Rangers. The Rangers may have had the best offense in the Al, but they didn't have the best offense in baseball.

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