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Wednesday, October 03, 2012

2012 Games 162 OmniChatter

No spots will be at stake, but plenty of positioning will be, and, hey, there could be the first Triple Crown since ‘67, which is neat…

Chatter up!

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   401. toratoratora Posted: October 03, 2012 at 08:17 PM (#4253167)
I just got Orioles game 3 ALDS tix for 29 bucks each. Not great seats, but man, nice price
   402. Gamingboy Posted: October 03, 2012 at 08:18 PM (#4253168)
Teddy Wins [X] (Teddy appears to win but doesn't due to some type of technicality: [ ])
Orioles hold a 1-run lead at any point [ ]
Brad Pitt namechecked [ ]
Montage of Chris Davis' home run streak [X ]
Ball hits a cat-walk [X ]
Negatively or positively, Bobby Valentine goes out in a blaze of glory [ ]
One of the non-Pennant Chase or Triple Crown games ends up becoming extremely interesting [ ] (Unless you count Chipper's last hit)
Chatter discussion somehow ends up going on a tangent about something other than baseball [X] (I'll get this out of the way)
Ichiro gets a hit [ ]
Dramatic home run in Oakland, the Bronx or St. Pete in the 7th inning or later [ ]
Somebody Ks 10+ people [ ]
TRIPLE CROWN [X ] (All but assured)
A's player does the Bernie []
Someone gets pied []
Replay of Longoria's HR on a broadcast other than the Tampa game [ ]
Replay of Andino's hit on a broadcast other than the Boston game [ ]
Jeter fist pump [ ]
HR at NYS "wouldn't be a homer anywhere else" [X ]
Video of team watching game in clubhouse or jumbotron [ ]
Ball goes past a diving Jeter [ ]
   403. DKDC Posted: October 03, 2012 at 08:19 PM (#4253169)
Good thing the Orioles didn't save Tillman for the wild card game. He sucks.
   404. dr. scott Posted: October 03, 2012 at 08:24 PM (#4253175)
there is still time... A's came back from 5-1.

giants, meanwhile are beating Kershaw in an attempt to knock him out of the Cy Young consideration.

though the Dodgers falling off a cliff was fun, it sure took away any excitement in the NL races.
   405. DKDC Posted: October 03, 2012 at 08:25 PM (#4253176)
So best 162 ever followed by worst 162 ever?

I guess that works.
   406. Gamingboy Posted: October 03, 2012 at 08:25 PM (#4253177)
I do not have much confidence in this game for the Orioles. Hellickson is on it and the Rays have been going long.
   407. JJ1986 Posted: October 03, 2012 at 08:28 PM (#4253179)
giants, meanwhile are beating Kershaw in an attempt to knock him out of the Cy Young consideration.


How much does he have to give up for Dickey to get the ERA title?
   408. flournoy Posted: October 03, 2012 at 08:29 PM (#4253180)
Maybe I'll be able to somehow grab tickets for the NLCS in Washington....


There won't be an NLCS in Washington.
   409. Gamingboy Posted: October 03, 2012 at 08:31 PM (#4253181)
There won't be an NLCS in Washington.


That's a clown assumption, bro.
   410. JJ1986 Posted: October 03, 2012 at 08:32 PM (#4253182)
There won't be an NLCS in Washington.


I don't think the Cardinals are good enough to beat the Nats.
   411. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: October 03, 2012 at 08:33 PM (#4253183)
Valentine taking out Dice-K was very creepy to watch.

I thought only he saw that.
   412. Misirlou's been working for the drug squad Posted: October 03, 2012 at 08:33 PM (#4253184)
Dan Johnson's #### only works in games 162.
   413. flournoy Posted: October 03, 2012 at 08:43 PM (#4253188)
I just realized that the Braves won 4-0, which is exactly what I wanted them to do. They finish the year with exactly 700 runs scored and 600 runs allowed.
   414. toratoratora Posted: October 03, 2012 at 08:49 PM (#4253192)
Cripes. 7-1.
What an appropriate way for the crappy ass Sox to finish the year.I'll be damn glad to get this season over and done with. Man do I hate this team
   415. Cowboy Popup Posted: October 03, 2012 at 08:50 PM (#4253193)
Man, Cano is having himself a day.
   416. Gamingboy Posted: October 03, 2012 at 08:51 PM (#4253194)
Okay, Hellickson is out. So now the Orioles jsut need to hope that Alfredo Aceves has snuck into Tropicana and is impersonating a Rays pitcher.
   417. Gamingboy Posted: October 03, 2012 at 08:52 PM (#4253196)
Okay, so who starts on Friday, and is there a chance that the Rangers could play like they did today?
   418. DKDC Posted: October 03, 2012 at 08:53 PM (#4253197)
Looks like Darvish vs. Saunders on Friday, in Arlington.
   419. TVerik, the gum-snappin' hairdresser Posted: October 03, 2012 at 08:53 PM (#4253198)
How many runs until the Orioles are outscored this year?
   420. JJ1986 Posted: October 03, 2012 at 08:54 PM (#4253200)
Okay, so who starts on Friday, and is there a chance that the Rangers could play like they did today?


I think it'll be Saunders v. Darvish.
   421. TVerik, the gum-snappin' hairdresser Posted: October 03, 2012 at 08:55 PM (#4253202)
Looks like they have to lose by 10. Seven more, Rays!
   422. Gamingboy Posted: October 03, 2012 at 08:55 PM (#4253203)

Looks like Darvish vs. Saunders on Friday, in Arlington.


Eh, Saunders is the only guy they have who can be considered a veteran starter, and he's done okay down the stretch. And you got to know that Buck will fill up the bullpen with 16 guys and a short leash.
   423. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: October 03, 2012 at 08:59 PM (#4253205)
Wow, Longo is crazy.
   424. Gamingboy Posted: October 03, 2012 at 09:00 PM (#4253206)
Somebody tell Longoria that no matter how many dingers he hits tonight he's not going to stop Cabrera.

Of course, a one game playoff is such a total crapshoot. Who the hell knows?
   425. escabeche Posted: October 03, 2012 at 09:00 PM (#4253207)
At this point I don't care who we play in the postseason as long as they don't have Evan Longoria.
   426. toratoratora Posted: October 03, 2012 at 09:02 PM (#4253208)
Between last years final game and this years show, I'm beginning to see Longoria as my nemesis.
He's crushing my wildcard tix
   427. Davo's Favorite Tacos Are Moose Tacos Posted: October 03, 2012 at 09:02 PM (#4253209)
Longoria!

OK, so this game now has some potential.
   428. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: October 03, 2012 at 09:03 PM (#4253210)
I'm done. I've had my fill of Red Sox baseball. Congrats Yankees and congrats to the Orioles, good luck on Friday.
   429. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: October 03, 2012 at 09:06 PM (#4253212)
Boy, as little as I liked this Yankee team--and I really, really did not care for them--the last day of the regular season is always sad.
   430. BDC Posted: October 03, 2012 at 09:14 PM (#4253214)
He's crushing my wildcard tix

And in the process is punching mine. If that metaphor makes sense. If the Rays hold on, I'm fixing to go to an impromptu ballgame Friday here in Arlington.

   431. Gamingboy Posted: October 03, 2012 at 09:19 PM (#4253218)
And in the process is punching mine. If that metaphor makes sense. If the Rays hold on, I'm fixing to go to an impromptu ballgame Friday here in Arlington.


With luck, that will be the only ballgame Arlington will see in this postseason. [fingers crossed]
   432. Mayor Blomberg Posted: October 03, 2012 at 09:20 PM (#4253220)
I'm impressed that Kuroda's stayed awake through this game.
   433. toratoratora Posted: October 03, 2012 at 09:21 PM (#4253222)
And in the process is punching mine. If that metaphor makes sense. If the Rays hold on, I'm fixing to go to an impromptu ballgame Friday here in Arlington.


One man gathers what another man spills
   434. NJ in DC (Now with Wife!) Posted: October 03, 2012 at 09:21 PM (#4253223)
It's nice having the best player in the AL on your team. Non-Trout division.
   435. DKDC Posted: October 03, 2012 at 09:25 PM (#4253227)
True, Cabrera is pretty nasty. The good news about losing the division is the Os won't have to face the Tigers until the ALCS.
   436. I Am Not a Number Posted: October 03, 2012 at 09:28 PM (#4253231)
Man, Cano is having himself a day

On how many MVP ballots will he slot in ahead of Jeter? Fewer than 10? Fewer than 5?
   437. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: October 03, 2012 at 09:29 PM (#4253232)
69-93. Worst Red Sox team since 1965!
   438. NJ in DC (Now with Wife!) Posted: October 03, 2012 at 09:29 PM (#4253233)
On how many MVP ballots will he slot in ahead of Jeter? Fewer than 10? Fewer than 5?

0. I will be shocked if he finishes higher than 8th.
   439. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: October 03, 2012 at 09:31 PM (#4253236)
Funny, I said back after the Oakland series that six wins would give the Yankees the division. Guess it will work out that way. (Though they're going to get Lucky 7 tonight, it appears.)
   440. Davo's Favorite Tacos Are Moose Tacos Posted: October 03, 2012 at 09:31 PM (#4253238)
Longoria is due up 4th this inning...A chance at history!
   441. rconn23 Posted: October 03, 2012 at 09:32 PM (#4253240)
"True, Cabrera is pretty nasty. The good news about losing the division is the Os won't have to face the Tigers until the ALCS."

Cano 7.6 WAR
Cabrera 6.9 WAR
   442. Srul Itza Posted: October 03, 2012 at 09:41 PM (#4253249)
Cabrera out, Triple Crown locked up.
   443. DKDC Posted: October 03, 2012 at 09:41 PM (#4253250)
Sure, Cano's a better player, for this one year, if you believe he suddenly became a plus fielder. I don't.

Cabrera's had a higher WAR than Cano for every year of Cano's career.
   444. TVerik, the gum-snappin' hairdresser Posted: October 03, 2012 at 09:41 PM (#4253251)
One of my friends and I were talking IRL about the amazing Red Sox record this year. And he framed it differently than I had ever thought of it.

He says that Theo built a Moneyball team, and the Trade this year along with some of the other moves was the new management's way of ridding themselves of "a Moneyball roster" so that they could start over, scouts-only.

Interesting.
   445. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: October 03, 2012 at 09:44 PM (#4253253)
Now they're openly mocking Boston on the ESPN broadcast. This can only make me nervous.
   446. Cowboy Popup Posted: October 03, 2012 at 09:45 PM (#4253257)
On how many MVP ballots will he slot in ahead of Jeter? Fewer than 10? Fewer than 5?

Cano's lack of MVP buzz is puzzling. He's a Gold Glove second baseman (I'm assuming he wins it this year), he's got 33 HRs as of tonight, and he's hitting well over .300, all for a playoff team. That sounds like a recipe for a MVP candidate. Is it really all the lack of RBIs? I mean, sure, Jeter might steal some votes, but that seems to be a result of writers choosing him by default, since they don't see any other Yankees worthy of getting up ballot support. I don't get it, but I guess I don't care so much. As long as Cano is having an awesome season, I'm going to enjoy it.
   447. Gamingboy Posted: October 03, 2012 at 09:45 PM (#4253259)
We have a triple crown winner.
   448. Davo's Favorite Tacos Are Moose Tacos Posted: October 03, 2012 at 09:46 PM (#4253263)
Dan Johnson is the clutchiest player of all time.
   449. Misirlou's been working for the drug squad Posted: October 03, 2012 at 09:46 PM (#4253264)
Holy Crap! Dan Johnson!! The two Rays heroes of game 162 a year ago are a combined 6-9 with 6 HR tonight.
   450. TVerik, the gum-snappin' hairdresser Posted: October 03, 2012 at 09:47 PM (#4253265)
Cowboy, I'll bet that if Cano was hitting .400 with RISP, it would be a different conversation.
   451. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: October 03, 2012 at 09:51 PM (#4253271)
Granderson actually threatening the triple crown now, right?
   452. puck Posted: October 03, 2012 at 09:51 PM (#4253272)
Oh, so Dunn was not given a chance to break the strikeout record.
   453. Cowboy Popup Posted: October 03, 2012 at 09:53 PM (#4253275)
We have a triple crown winner.

Oh, I don't expect him to win. But people have been not mentioning him at all. To be fair, Cano played his worst baseball right as the conversation was really getting going.

Cowboy, I'll bet that if Cano was hitting .400 with RISP, it would be a different conversation.

I think you're right. I'm just surprised that is the end all.
   454. toratoratora Posted: October 03, 2012 at 09:55 PM (#4253278)
Shreds tickets. Dang O's.
Have fun at the WC game Bob!
   455. BDC Posted: October 03, 2012 at 09:57 PM (#4253281)
Thanks, tora - good luck to both clubs.
   456. The Yankee Clapper Posted: October 03, 2012 at 09:57 PM (#4253282)
Cano's lack of MVP buzz is puzzling. He's a Gold Glove second baseman (I'm assuming he wins it this year), he's got 33 HRs as of tonight, and he's hitting well over .300, all for a playoff team. That sounds like a recipe for a MVP candidate.

Cano's season would be good enough to win in many years, but Cabrera & Trout are both having seasons that would almost always win. Cano's September surge may be overlooked by those not paying close attention, so he may under-perform on the ballot, although I'd put him #3.
   457. TVerik, the gum-snappin' hairdresser Posted: October 03, 2012 at 10:00 PM (#4253285)
Assuming the score holds up, the Yanks win the best record in the AL, right?
   458. Cowboy Popup Posted: October 03, 2012 at 10:04 PM (#4253287)
Cano's September surge may be overlooked by those not paying close attention, so he may under-perform on the ballot, although I'd put him #3.

Not even a September surge, it's all be in the last week and a half. In another year, hitting .500+ for the last nine games of the season during a tight race to win the division would lock in a player with his numbers for the award. But as you say, it's hard to compete with a triple crown or a 10 win season.
   459. salajander Posted: October 03, 2012 at 10:04 PM (#4253288)
Assuming the score holds up, the Yanks win the best record in the AL, right?

Yes. If they lose the A's win tie breakers for home field.
   460. NJ in DC (Now with Wife!) Posted: October 03, 2012 at 10:06 PM (#4253290)
Cabrera's had a higher WAR than Cano for every year of Cano's career.

On Fangraphs, yes. On Bref, Cano has won 2 of the last 3 years handily (and lost the 3rd handily).
   461. salajander Posted: October 03, 2012 at 10:07 PM (#4253291)
Awwwww, Melky Mesa pinch-hit for Granderson, taking away a chance to throw a wrench into Cabrera's triple crown.
   462. Cowboy Popup Posted: October 03, 2012 at 10:09 PM (#4253294)
Awwwww, Melky Mesa pinch-hit for Granderson, taking away a chance to throw a wrench into Cabrera's triple crown.

That is bush league! Damnit Girardi. Not cool.
   463. Srul Itza Posted: October 03, 2012 at 10:11 PM (#4253297)
12 run lead. Pull everyone.
   464. flournoy Posted: October 03, 2012 at 10:12 PM (#4253298)
Has any player before Dan Johnson ever hit exactly three homers all year, and hit all three of them in the last game of the season? I can't imagine it's been done.

Johnson finishes the year hitting .364/.548/.818.
   465. Cowboy Popup Posted: October 03, 2012 at 10:13 PM (#4253301)
12 run lead. Pull everyone.

You can still let Granderson hit. He's either going to K, hit a HR, or fly out anyway. No chance for injury. Cano better not run out to play second when they take the field.
   466. escabeche Posted: October 03, 2012 at 10:14 PM (#4253302)
So after all the excitement, am I right that the outcome is exactly the same as it would have been under the old system? Orioles and Rangers have identical records so would have played a one-game tiebreaker to determine the single Wild Card, right?
   467. AJMcCringleberry Posted: October 03, 2012 at 10:16 PM (#4253304)
Awwwww, Melky Mesa pinch-hit for Granderson, taking away a chance to throw a wrench into Cabrera's triple crown.

Cabrera would've still won the triple crown if they tied.
   468. salajander Posted: October 03, 2012 at 10:18 PM (#4253306)
Cabrera would've still won the triple crown if they tied.

Yeah, but with a footnote.
   469. You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR) Posted: October 03, 2012 at 10:19 PM (#4253309)
Awwwww, Melky Mesa pinch-hit for Granderson, taking away a chance to throw a wrench into Cabrera's triple crown.

That is bush league! Damnit Girardi. Not cool.


I disagree. Granderson did his job for the day. Let Cabrera enjoy his personal accomplishment.
   470. Misirlou's been working for the drug squad Posted: October 03, 2012 at 10:24 PM (#4253315)
Yeah, but with a footnote.


No footnote. Yaz doesn't have one. Neither does Medwick.
   471. toratoratora Posted: October 03, 2012 at 10:24 PM (#4253317)
Sayanora Bobby V. It hasn't been fun.
I'll be glad to see you go
   472. dr. scott Posted: October 03, 2012 at 10:32 PM (#4253327)
So the Giants and the A's finish the year with the same record and both leading the west.

I'm pretty sure I predicted that one.
   473. Mayor Blomberg Posted: October 03, 2012 at 10:34 PM (#4253329)
So after all the excitement, am I right that the outcome is exactly the same as it would have been under the old system? Orioles and Rangers have identical records so would have played a one-game tiebreaker to determine the single Wild Card, right?

For fans, sure; for players there's extra $.
   474. NJ in DC (Now with Wife!) Posted: October 03, 2012 at 10:35 PM (#4253330)
[473] He's also assuming the teams would have played this same way down the stretch...which they wouldn't have.
   475. The John Wetland Memorial Death (CoB) Posted: October 03, 2012 at 10:40 PM (#4253334)
You were far from my favorite Yankees team to watch all year, but you came through when you needed to and won the division.

Congratulations and good luck in the post season!
   476. Dr. Vaux Posted: October 03, 2012 at 10:43 PM (#4253339)
[473] He's also assuming the teams would have played this same way down the stretch...which they wouldn't have.



Let's see, would they have?

With the Orioles winning, the Rangers wouldn't have felt like they could coast with the wild card as a fall-back, because there would have been the risk of losing it. The Yankees would have been in the same position as the Rangers--unable to coast because they could have lost the wild card to, in their case, the A's. Meanwhile, the Orioles and A's would have been going full tilt trying to win their respective divisions or the wild card, and if anything, fuller tilt, because they only had one wild card to win.

I think it would have played out the same way.
   477. Bourbon Samurai Posted: October 03, 2012 at 10:43 PM (#4253340)
Harold Reynolds is drunk
   478. Cowboy Popup Posted: October 03, 2012 at 10:48 PM (#4253348)
I disagree. Granderson did his job for the day. Let Cabrera enjoy his personal accomplishment.

None of that bush league Brett Favre nonsense. You should never lay down to make achieving history easier. Not that that really happened here, but Girardi should have let his guy get a shot at a share of the HR title. It's a minor point, I'm not all that worked up about it, but I would have let Grandy hit.
   479. You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR) Posted: October 03, 2012 at 10:57 PM (#4253360)
one of that bush league Brett Favre nonsense. You should never lay down to make achieving history easier. Not that that really happened here


Alrighty then. Congratulations to Mr. Granderson for a fine season but his individual accomplishments should carry little significance; only team victory matters to these stoic, hard-fighting New York Yankees. Onwards to 28 lads! Excelsior!
   480. PreservedFish Posted: October 03, 2012 at 10:58 PM (#4253363)
That Orioles game sucked dick, but it was still better than the debate.
   481. dr. scott Posted: October 03, 2012 at 11:00 PM (#4253366)
Predictions?

Braves beat cards
Giants beat reds
Nats beat braves

O's beat Texas
As beat tigers
O's beat Yankees.

50% chance of all regional WS.
   482. Srul Itza Posted: October 03, 2012 at 11:10 PM (#4253375)
You can still let Granderson hit. He's either going to K, hit a HR, or fly out anyway. No chance for injury.


Yeah, because no Yankee has ever been injured by a Bosox HBP, and pulled something while running the bases.

   483. Dr. Vaux Posted: October 04, 2012 at 01:57 AM (#4253483)
It's hard to see something more likely, from a baseball gods standpoint, than the Cardinals beating the Braves in the wild card game.

1. In the first year of the coin-flip format, the 94-win team is bound to lose to the 88-win team, especially when
2. The 94-win team is going to start the hottest pitcher in baseball, with an ERA well under 2,
3. The same 94-win team is one that has frequently in its history been the best team in the league but lost before the World Series, and to top it off,
4. The 88-win team has beaten much better teams in the post-season on a routine basis over the past few years.
   484. base ball chick Posted: October 04, 2012 at 02:14 AM (#4253489)
GO ORIOLES!!!

GO ANY TEAM THAT BEATS THE YANKS!!!

WIN!!! ANY NL TEAM!!!!!
   485. RTSquared is not on the Rangers' DL...yet... Posted: October 04, 2012 at 10:19 AM (#4253647)
See ya at the game tomorrow, Bob. I have a Sox fan currently living in Seattle in town for a work conference, and he's blowing off work socializing to go to a postseason game. Should be interesting...
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