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2012 World Series Game 4 OMNICHATTER

Remember the 2012 season? It started over in Japan, and, like, it was between the Mariners and the Athletics, and nobody really gave a darn, since OBVIOUSLY neither of them would be in the playoff picture? And remember when Matt Cain threw that perfect game, and the Orioles made the playoffs, and Josh Hamilton went deep four times in one night? And the Red Sox drama! And… and…

Well, this might be it… OR WILL IT?!?

San Francisco Giants (Cain) @ Detroit Tigers (Scherzer). SF leads 3-0.

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601. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim

Posted: October 28, 2012 at 11:51 PM (#4286920)

Congrats to the Gints, again.

602. Chip Posted: October 28, 2012 at 11:51 PM (#4286921)

Those were all sinkers to Kelly, no?

No. He throws a couple different types of sliders, or so I've it described by Krukow, among others.

603. Shooty is in the Trust Tree

Posted: October 28, 2012 at 11:51 PM (#4286922)

Sandoval MVP?

604. BourbonSamurai, vassal of the Harpsburg Empire Posted: October 28, 2012 at 11:51 PM (#4286923)

hell of a pitch. congrats giants.

no more baseball. boo.

605. Lassus Posted: October 28, 2012 at 11:51 PM (#4286924)

I can't remember a called 3rd strike elimination game.

I ####### CAN

606. Good cripple hitter Posted: October 28, 2012 at 11:51 PM (#4286925)

It's funny how Carlos Beltran's career will be defined by that one strikeout. I was also thinking of it.

607. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: October 28, 2012 at 11:51 PM (#4286926)

of course, Carlos Beltran (hits self)

608. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: October 28, 2012 at 11:52 PM (#4286927)

Cabrera was guessing. You can't be guessing there.

Well, that's the season. Too bad the WS couldn't live up to the rest of the postseason. Yay Scutaro.

609. Gamingboy Posted: October 28, 2012 at 11:52 PM (#4286928)

Well, uh, how long until the November WBC qualifiers?

610. Phil Coorey. Posted: October 28, 2012 at 11:52 PM (#4286930)

Well done to all the Giants fans here, sorry to all the Tigers fans.

611. Rafael Bellylard: Built like a Fielder Posted: October 28, 2012 at 11:52 PM (#4286931)

I can't remember a called 3rd strike elimination game.

Ryan Howard? Too lazy to look it up.

612. Lassus Posted: October 28, 2012 at 11:52 PM (#4286932)

In fairness to Carlos, his pitch was way nastier than this one.

613. BourbonSamurai, vassal of the Harpsburg Empire Posted: October 28, 2012 at 11:52 PM (#4286933)

Even though it lost steam in the LCS, a great season. One of my favorites.

614. The District Attorney Posted: October 28, 2012 at 11:52 PM (#4286934)

At least Beltran took a wicked-ass curve, not a fastball right down the pipe...

Not that criticizing a great hitter for what happened on one pitch is at all fair, of course.

EDIT: Coke to Lassus

615. JJ1986 Posted: October 28, 2012 at 11:53 PM (#4286936)

Cabrera had to be looking for a tailing slider and was surprised not to see one.

616. 'Spos: "convenient, cheap, and smoked meat" Posted: October 28, 2012 at 11:53 PM (#4286937)

Good for the Jints, shame for the Tiggers. A great post-season, WS sweep notwithstanding.

617. Crosseyed and Painless Posted: October 28, 2012 at 11:53 PM (#4286938)

I just can't get too mad at my team when they make it all the way to the World Series. But that will surely rank as one of the worst offensive performances in WS history, right?

618. Smyly Smile (Walewander) Posted: October 28, 2012 at 11:53 PM (#4286939)

Congratulations to the Giants and their fans. Your team played a lot better.

619. BourbonSamurai, vassal of the Harpsburg Empire Posted: October 28, 2012 at 11:54 PM (#4286940)

In fairness to Carlos, his pitch was way nastier than this one.

Yeah, I never understood why people were pissed at Beltran for that. That was a ####### perfect pitch. I guess he could've swung at it and missed it if that would've made people feel better.

The pitch Cabrera took he should've swung at. Oh well.

620. charityslave is thinking about baseball Posted: October 28, 2012 at 11:54 PM (#4286941)

He shook off a slider and came back to it on the pitch before. Then he shook of the slider to get to the fastball against Miggy. What Cajones!

621. Shooty is in the Trust Tree

Posted: October 28, 2012 at 11:54 PM (#4286943)

Who ees Vogelsong?

622. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: October 28, 2012 at 11:54 PM (#4286944)

Cabrera was guessing. You can't be guessing there.

Is it guessing or just paying attention? The guy had thrown about 75 consecutive sliders to righties in the series, I don't think selling out on the slider is a bad call. This isn't Wainwright mixing his pitches.

623. AT-AT at bat@AT&T Posted: October 28, 2012 at 11:55 PM (#4286945)

yeah giants !!!

other upcoming wonders :
romney potus
raiders make the playoffs
world ends december 21st !

624. S.F. Giangst Posted: October 28, 2012 at 11:55 PM (#4286946)

Giants bullpen: 11 batters faced, 7K, 1BB, 1HBP, fly out, ground out

625. The Ghost of Sox Fans Past

Posted: October 28, 2012 at 11:55 PM (#4286947)

Congrats to the Giants and their fans.

626. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: October 28, 2012 at 11:55 PM (#4286948)

Sigh. The end of baseball season.

Sigh.

627. Shooty is in the Trust Tree

Posted: October 28, 2012 at 11:56 PM (#4286949)

Posey must think these WS titles are easy.

628. boteman Posted: October 28, 2012 at 11:56 PM (#4286950)

No more real baseball for 5 months. I'm gonna go stare out the window and wait for Spring.

629. Dr. Vaux Posted: October 28, 2012 at 11:57 PM (#4286951)

I feel good for Giants fans, but the Giants didn't win that World Series. Sure they might have won it even if the Tigers had shown up, but the Tigers didn't show up.

And I feel bad for A's fans, too. The Tigers never should have gotten past Oakland.

630. charityslave is thinking about baseball Posted: October 28, 2012 at 11:58 PM (#4286953)

Thanks to Gamingboy for modding these omnichats. They were great. Really added to my enjoyment of, and insight into the games.

631. Willie Mayspedes Posted: October 28, 2012 at 11:58 PM (#4286954)

Was anybody distracted by the john 3:16 guy?

632. Shooty is in the Trust Tree

Posted: October 28, 2012 at 11:58 PM (#4286955)

No more real baseball for 5 months. I'm gonna go stare out the window and wait for Spring.

There's always the X-Factor!

633. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: October 28, 2012 at 11:59 PM (#4286957)

Was anybody distracted by the john 3:16 guy?

It was pretty distracting.

634. Dr. Vaux Posted: October 28, 2012 at 11:59 PM (#4286958)

It's also amazing that the Giants have won two of the last three World Series when they never, at any point, seemed like a dominant team. When we think of this era, are we going to think of it as defined by the Giants?

That's Budsball for you.

635. Chip Posted: October 28, 2012 at 11:59 PM (#4286960)

I feel good for Giants fans, but the Giants didn't win that World Series. Sure they might have won it even if the Tigers had shown up, but the Tigers didn't show up.

This is lame.

636. fra paolo Posted: October 28, 2012 at 11:59 PM (#4286961)

Jim Price sounds a bit choked up. I don't think his health has been good, and I wonder if he thinks this was his last chance.

637. Shooty is in the Trust Tree

Posted: October 29, 2012 at 12:00 AM (#4286962)

The Tigers never should have gotten past Oakland.

Naw, Tigers played a little better that series. No crying from me.

638. tshipman

Posted: October 29, 2012 at 12:00 AM (#4286963)

Tigets Fans: Sorry about the series. Your guys played hard and never gave up on the sweep. There's always next year.

Sorry to everyone else for the lack of excitement.

***
Wooooooooooo!!!!

Was anybody distracted by the john 3:16 guy?

I was.

639. charityslave is thinking about baseball Posted: October 29, 2012 at 12:00 AM (#4286964)

To quote George Will: "There are only two seasons- baseball season and the void."

Welcome to the void.

When does Hot Stove start on MLB network?

640. BourbonSamurai, vassal of the Harpsburg Empire Posted: October 29, 2012 at 12:01 AM (#4286965)

slow motion hugs: probably shouldn't play them

641. Shooty is in the Trust Tree

Posted: October 29, 2012 at 12:01 AM (#4286966)

I think it would be hilarious one time if the pitcher runs into the shortstop's arms or something instead of the catcher's.

642. JJ1986 Posted: October 29, 2012 at 12:01 AM (#4286967)

Someone was interviewing Angel Pagan on camera, but I guess it wasn't FOX.

643. Willie Mayspedes Posted: October 29, 2012 at 12:01 AM (#4286968)

The weirdest part of these giants championships has been zito and lincecum.

644. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: October 29, 2012 at 12:02 AM (#4286969)

When does Hot Stove start on MLB network?

I think I saw an ad today that said Friday was the day.

645. Roger McDowell spit on me! Posted: October 29, 2012 at 12:02 AM (#4286971)

One thing that kind of sucks - Kuiper called the last out in 2010, Dave Flemming was on mic tonight. Wish they'd let Miller do that half of the 10th.

646. Shooty is in the Trust Tree

Posted: October 29, 2012 at 12:02 AM (#4286972)

I better go to bed before the family in the Bay Area starts calling me. Good night all! Dream sweetly of the team of the decade!

647. S.F. Giangst Posted: October 29, 2012 at 12:03 AM (#4286973)

when they never, at any point, seemed like a dominant team

8-1 in World Series games with 4 shutouts and a 1 run-allowed game looks kinda dominant. Pitching well works in any era.

648. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: October 29, 2012 at 12:04 AM (#4286974)

The weirdest part of these giants championships has been zito and lincecum.

Some great stories with the Giants. Panda and Zito bouncing back from 2010, Romo seems like a super guy, Posey back from the injury, Marco, Lincecum contributing out of the bullpen...as a neutral they are a easy team to feel good about.

649. Dr. Vaux Posted: October 29, 2012 at 12:04 AM (#4286975)

Jim Price sounds a bit choked up. I don't think his health has been good, and I wonder if he thinks this was his last chance.

It was the last chance for a lot of people. That's the biggest reason it hurts so much.

And with an old owner, an old manager, and a dying city, they went out and laid an egg like this.

650. Willie Mayspedes Posted: October 29, 2012 at 12:04 AM (#4286977)

The a's would have beat the tigers with Chris young.

651. JJ1986 Posted: October 29, 2012 at 12:05 AM (#4286980)

I didn't realize Bill Neukom wasn't the Giants President anymore.

652. Dr. Vaux Posted: October 29, 2012 at 12:06 AM (#4286981)

Pitching well works in any era.

The Tigers pitched well all post-season. They couldn't score a damn run in two straight games in which they only gave up 2 runs. It wasn't pitching that won and lost this series, it was offensive ineptitude.

653. charityslave is thinking about baseball Posted: October 29, 2012 at 12:06 AM (#4286982)

When you feel down and are facing long odds, when people are saying you're past your prime and that you have lost your edge- remember: Ryan Theriot scored the winning run in the 2013 World Series. Anything is possible!

654. BochysFingers Posted: October 29, 2012 at 12:06 AM (#4286983)

All i can say is OMFG

655. Knock on any Iorg Posted: October 29, 2012 at 12:06 AM (#4286984)

Congrats to the Giants. I'm gonna go cry now.

656. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: October 29, 2012 at 12:06 AM (#4286985)

Ryan Theriot scored the winning run in the 2013 World Series. Anything is possible!

Feeling confident aren't you?

657. tshipman

Posted: October 29, 2012 at 12:07 AM (#4286986)

It wasn't pitching that won and lost this series, it was offensive ineptitude.

Giants pitching and defense had a lot to do with that.

I didn't realize Bill Neukom wasn't the Giants President anymore.

There was an ouster a few years ago.

658. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: October 29, 2012 at 12:07 AM (#4286987)

Jesus, the Giant brain trust sounds like they're asleep.

659. deputydrew Posted: October 29, 2012 at 12:08 AM (#4286988)

Sabean has received a lot of crap, including from me. But flags fly forever and the guy's got a ring for each hand. Thanks, Brian. It's also astonishing to win two in three years while turning over your entire offense with one exception. Some may say he's just lucky, but results do matter.

660. Dr. Vaux Posted: October 29, 2012 at 12:08 AM (#4286989)

And Romney's going to win the election, too. But that will make RMc happy, so good for him.

What a shitty couple of months.

661. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: October 29, 2012 at 12:11 AM (#4286996)

Erin Andrews is a massive upgrade from Jeanne Zelasko.

662. Tom T Posted: October 29, 2012 at 12:11 AM (#4286997)

It's also amazing that the Giants have won two of the last three World Series when they never, at any point, seemed like a dominant team.

Heh, remember how all of us here (or who previously read BPro) used to feel superior in mocking Sabean? Yeah...those were the days.

Had a blast watching this Series. Would never want to have to face Romo's slider....

Makes 4 of 5 (and 5 of 7) to the NL. The bottom of the NL may still be ... wait ... will now be in the AL (!), so perhaps we'll eventually stop hearing about how much stronger the AL is.

663. BourbonSamurai, vassal of the Harpsburg Empire Posted: October 29, 2012 at 12:11 AM (#4286998)

My wife just said, "Oh, look Pablo Escobar won the award!"

664. charityslave is thinking about baseball Posted: October 29, 2012 at 12:12 AM (#4287000)

I hope Leyland's wife meets him at the door with a glass of scotch and a pack of Marlboro's.

665. VoodooR Posted: October 29, 2012 at 12:12 AM (#4287001)

Pretty pisspoor performance from the Chevrolet guy!

666. deputydrew Posted: October 29, 2012 at 12:13 AM (#4287003)

As a Giants fan my current thought is, "How much weight does Panda put on *this* offseason?"

667. fra paolo Posted: October 29, 2012 at 12:14 AM (#4287007)

It was the last chance for a lot of people. That's the biggest reason it hurts so much.

They could be back next year, with V-Mart in the lineup. They'll need to rebuild the bullpen, but they've got good starters still.

668. charityslave is thinking about baseball Posted: October 29, 2012 at 12:15 AM (#4287008)

As a Giants fan my current thought is, "How much weight does Panda put on *this* offseason?"

Yea, they can't exactly threaten to send him to AAA like last year, can they?

669. AT-AT at bat@AT&T Posted: October 29, 2012 at 12:15 AM (#4287009)

my GIANT vision was pablo shooting off the new bay bridge in a burning convertible yelling something like " I AM THE MPV !" !

670. charityslave is thinking about baseball Posted: October 29, 2012 at 12:17 AM (#4287012)

Thanks for a great series guys- I'll see you on the boards in the offseason.

671. VoodooR Posted: October 29, 2012 at 12:21 AM (#4287022)

Leyland with tears in his eyes. Hard to watch. Is this the end for him?

672. Willie Mayspedes Posted: October 29, 2012 at 12:22 AM (#4287024)

His nose is hard to watch

673. boteman Posted: October 29, 2012 at 12:23 AM (#4287025)

This crowd has gone deathly silent as he lines up his last shot. He's a Cinderella boy, tears in eyes--I guess.

674. BourbonSamurai, vassal of the Harpsburg Empire Posted: October 29, 2012 at 12:24 AM (#4287028)

"a lot of karma they had for each other"

675. deputydrew Posted: October 29, 2012 at 12:24 AM (#4287029)

Melky gets a ring and a full share, right?

676. fra paolo Posted: October 29, 2012 at 12:26 AM (#4287031)

I still think 'Tigers threaten, but they do not score' is the most fitting epitaph for the season. And with that, it's good-night from me.

677. Tom (and his broom) Posted: October 29, 2012 at 12:29 AM (#4287036)

Deputydrew...I would guess so...the players vote on that, but I think the team will advise them to be generous there.

If they didn't give him a full share it might run afoul of the agreement regarding no additional punishment.

FWIW 2 years ago the Giants set a record for the number of shares allotted, very generous and inclusive group.

678. Tom (and his broom) Posted: October 29, 2012 at 12:31 AM (#4287039)

I will say that since Colletti left and John Barr came onboard Sabean seems somewhat smarter...reminds me that a boss is only as smart as his deputies.

679. deputydrew Posted: October 29, 2012 at 12:32 AM (#4287042)

"Meet the new boss, same as the old boss."

680. Dale Sams Posted: October 29, 2012 at 12:35 AM (#4287049)

Have we had a 'good thing an East coast team didn't make it' discussion?

681. Baldrick Posted: October 29, 2012 at 12:37 AM (#4287051)

An end of the season haiku:

Amazing season
Great time in SF
How long 'til pitchers/catchers?

682. The Ghost of Sox Fans Past

Posted: October 29, 2012 at 12:40 AM (#4287055)

Superb, Baldrick, just superb.

683. Good cripple hitter Posted: October 29, 2012 at 12:44 AM (#4287061)

Deputydrew...I would guess so...the players vote on that, but I think the team will advise them to be generous there.

If they didn't give him a full share it might run afoul of the agreement regarding no additional punishment.

The team apparently doesn't have a choice in the matter:

This is out of the players’ hands. By virtue of the number of games Cabrera played for the Giants, he is eligible for a postseason share. It would have been a full share — by rule — had he not been suspended. But the Joint Drug Agreement requires that a suspended players’ share be reduced by the percentage of regular-season games he missed if — and this is key — the suspension also covers more than half of the team’s postseason games.

Cabrera’s suspension lasts five games into the playoffs. Thus, if the Giants play nine or fewer postseason games, Cabrera will get 72.2 percent of a full share. (117 games on the roster before his drug suspension divided by a 162-game season). If the Giants play 10 or more postseason games, Cabrera gets a full share.

All of this is mandatory.

684. Monty Posted: October 29, 2012 at 12:45 AM (#4287064)

Melky gets a ring and a full share, right?

According to this article:

A word about Cabrera and postseason shares (and I think colleague Susan Slusser for her help with this research):

This is out of the players’ hands. By virtue of the number of games Cabrera played for the Giants, he is eligible for a postseason share. It would have been a full share — by rule — had he not been suspended. But the Joint Drug Agreement requires that a suspended players’ share be reduced by the percentage of regular-season games he missed if — and this is key — the suspension also covers more than half of the team’s postseason games.

Cabrera’s suspension lasts five games into the playoffs. Thus, if the Giants play nine or fewer postseason games, Cabrera will get 72.2 percent of a full share. (117 games on the roster before his drug suspension divided by a 162-game season). If the Giants play 10 or more postseason games, Cabrera gets a full share.

All of this is mandatory.

(Coke to Good cripple hitter, obviously)

685. S.F. Giangst Posted: October 29, 2012 at 12:54 AM (#4287073)

The Aaron Rowand Era is officially over.

686. S.F. Giangst Posted: October 29, 2012 at 12:57 AM (#4287076)

Melky gets a ring and a full share, right?

Hopefully he signs with a team not on the Giants 2013 schedule, so the awkward question of a pre-game ring presentation doesn't come up.

687. McCoy Posted: October 29, 2012 at 01:04 AM (#4287083)

Is that even possible nowadays>

688. puck Posted: October 29, 2012 at 02:33 AM (#4287111)

Melky could go to Japan.

689. the legend of Fenderbelly is ongoing Posted: October 29, 2012 at 03:16 AM (#4287118)

I wish that it was the historical underdogs (Tigers).
Romo is a charming mofo.
At least that it wasn't the Yankees, or the Cardinals.

####### off season.

690. zachtoma Posted: October 29, 2012 at 04:01 AM (#4287122)

The Giants played damn near perfect baseball their last 7 games in a row. Hats off, these are worthy champions.

691. RMc and His Roster of Rubbish Posted: October 29, 2012 at 05:46 AM (#4287125)

And Romney's going to win the election, too. But that will make RMc happy, so good for him.

At least somebody from Michigan is winning something this fall.

At least that it wasn't the Yankees, or the Cardinals.

True that.

692. Dr. Vaux Posted: October 29, 2012 at 07:29 AM (#4287140)

[Buys RMc a drink.]

693. RMc and His Roster of Rubbish Posted: October 29, 2012 at 08:25 AM (#4287161)

Thanks.

694. VoodooR Posted: October 29, 2012 at 07:21 PM (#4287761)

An end of the season haiku:

Amazing season
Great time in SF
How long 'til pitchers/catchers?

That's not a haiku. 5/5/7?

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