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Thursday, November 01, 2012
Good stuff from Tim Dierkes over at MLB Trade Rumors. The pickings are slim.
EDIT: Commenting fixed. Jim
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1. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: November 01, 2012 at 10:46 AM (#4289944)I see the Nats going after Upton, not Bourn. Local kid.
They have the Mariners making no signings and the Jays making just one which I think is silly. I think the Mariners are aggressive this winter to save Jack Z's job and I think Toronto has money burning a hole in their pocket.
I will guarantee one of those is wrong. Rafael Soriano is not re-signing with the Yankees. He wants a multi-year deal, and they do not want him on the books for 2014.
If the Yankees offer him a qualifying offer he's going to probably take it, because I'd be shocked if he can round up even a $10M/yr contract from anyone.
Then again, he may decide that making more in total contract is worth the trade off of making less per year. He may prefer 3 yrs/$27M to 1 yr/$13.3M. Assuming Rivera is back in 2013 his value won't be any better next year than it is right now.
I don't think the Yankees will offer him a multi-year deal (but hey, I didn't think they'd sign him in the first place) but I think there's a good chance Soriano accepts the Yankees qualifying offer after surveying the market and finding nothing remotely worthwhile on the multi-year front. This has the added effect of giving Soriano a raise for 2013, as the qualifying offer plus his $1.5 million buyout amounts to a nice unearned boost in salary. Thanks for another money-stealing scam, Bud!
EDIT - Bah, a cold bottle of Snooki Soda for SG
I think the market for closers is correcting. Last offseason Ryan Madson had to settle for one year, Francisco Rodriguez accepted arbitration, Joe Nathan signed for 2 years and $15M.
Now granted, Madson hadn't been a proven closer for long, Rodriguez had been demoted to setup man and Nathan was coming off an injury and down season and Jonathan Papelbon got mega-bucks, but I'm guessing Ruben Amaro won't be throwing more money at a closer this year.
Didn't the Dodgers just re-sign League to close? And is 3/30 really that much different from 3/27? My point is he's not getting multiple years at the rate he made the past two years or at the rate of the qualifying offer.
-3/30 and 3/27 are pretty similar. But Soriano's chances of getting 2/14 or 2/17 as a 34-year-old after pitching set-up relief are pretty low, aren't they? Even discounting injury risk.
Um, no.
God, I hope you are right.
If the Nats go after a CF I think it will definitely be Upton, they've been hard after him in trade talks a couple different times. Before Harper established himself well in CF last season I assumed Upton was a lock to end up in Washington as a free agent and he's still very likely to be their top target if they want to add an OF.
why?
As things stand at the moment, I would be surprised if the Tigers signed Hamilton. AFAICT, they think Dirks is good enough, and are going to give Boesch another year to prove he can hit. They are more likely to focus on Anibal Sanchez as the possible big-ticket free agent signing.
I'm betting any outfield upgrade comes via trade, rather than free agency.
Yes, but you aren't including the increased cost of the post-game spread in that.
They are so enamored of Boesch that they used Danny Worth as a pinch-hitter in the World Series while Boesch was left off the roster. He's done in the D.
Also it took until October for me to realize that Carlos Guillen had retired. Venezuelans, they're all the same.
Thanks. Does that mean that 2014 is a *gasp* bridge year for the Yankees?
I reserve some skepticism as they in the past have made clear certain intentions and then done the opposite (A-Rod, Soriano).
I thought it was Berry who kept Boesch off the roster.
Anyway, there's this.
Yeah. The explanation makes little sense. It'll be a wide market for Victorino but his price will be low? If there's a lot of teams interested in him the Braves aren't getting his services.
I think this season may have chanegd the calculus there a little- for one thing Harper was great in CF, but also if they need to add something to the lineup it's OBP, not power.
Yeah I get that, but I just don't see the Braves landing him unless Victorino loses free agent musical chairs. It's not Frank Wren's style. If they can't resign Bourn I think they make a trade to get a CF. That's more Wren's style.
Berry started most of the postseason. Hard to believe leaving him off was ever considered. They went with three do-many-things-none-of-them-well guys (Worth, Santiago, Kelly) rather than a presumed hitter (Boesch) and ended up using Worth (and Kelly, later) as a pinch-hitter.
If they thought there was ANY chance Boesch could help, they could have gone with one less helping of craptastic from the utility man buffet.
That makes me sad. I think there's a better chance that Austin Jackson will try to catch the next looper hit in front of him than there is that Brennan Boesch will ever be an acceptable starting option.
They desperately need someone to make 30-35 starts - and a potential injury case like Marcum just ain't that.... it's not like the Cubs have anything on the farm not quite ready, but could be ready by midseason -- there's just nothing even remotely interesting and possible to get those starts in 2013. Even Trey McNutt - if he hadn't had a regressed 2012 - probably isn't something they'd want until September.
Lots of talk that both Dempster and the Cubs are interested in a reunion -- which, given the wasteland -- I wouldn't mind if it's only 1 yr + and option... but Joe Blanton is a much, much better fit for the Cubs than anyone else.
He ought to come relatively cheap, he's a guy you can almost certainly not sweat making his starts, etc...
If someone tosses 3 year at him - I'm probably not interested, but I would gladly take Blanton for something approximating last offseason's Maholm deal.
I'm sticking with my desire to dig up a prospect corpse like Brandon Wood, Andy Marte, or something like that for 3B.
I totally forgot Victor Martinez was on the Tigers til McCarver mentioned it during the World Series.
Wasn't he asking for a five year deal? I agree, it will be a buyer's market for outfielders. The teams that are inclined to spend a lot don't seem to have a ton of OF holes.
He ought to come relatively cheap, he's a guy you can almost certainly not sweat making his starts,
Don't worry, Big Joe will do plenty of sweating for the both of you.
The Pirates have had both, and from what I saw, neither is worth having.
I'd like to see the Cubs go after Sanchez; how many years you figure he gets? Five?
Blanton for a one-year deal? Meh, but OK, I guess.
EDIT: Blanton's worse than I thought--he's not nearly as good a risk as Maholm was. Pass. I agree with you on Marcum.
On the non-pitcher side, I'd like to see them make a play for Upton, but I suppose they haven't convinced themselves Brett Jackson'll never learn to make contact yet.
But I'm not expecting to be any good next year -- at this point, I'm just looking for innings soaks because I have no desire to ever see Casey Coleman pitch another baseball.
I don't know, if Brandon Moss can be an abject disappointment with the Pirates and then go to the American League and suddenly start hitting like Boog Powell, maybe Brandon Wood isn't that bad either.
I don't expect the Cubs to be any good next year either, but Sanchez and Upton ought to be useful well beyond next year; since starting pitching's an area of desperation and CF will be too if Jackson doesn't pan out, I say make a play.
EDIT: I do like Upton for the Cubs in that I think he will be a solid player for a long time. The problem is that in a market this thin I think a competitor or two really opens up the checkbook and signs him for a lot of money and (almost) the remainder of this decade.
2 years, $24MM or something? He's comparable in many ways to Josh Willingham, who got $22MM over 3 years last winter (but was 3 years younger than Hunter will be).
Man, I'd love to see that. Seattle desperately needs a competent hitter. Several, really. I could actually see Seattle making a bit of a splash with FA. They've only got like $37M in guaranteed contracts next year and they've got money to spend.
as for the astros - mike napoli???
not unless he wants to sign a 1 year deal for minimum wage. i will need that electric shock thingy to kickstart mah heart if they sign an expensive FA like him, who is gonna get a multi year deal.
the FO has said they gonna go with jason castro (the Organization is seriously in luuuuvvv with this guy, don't ask me why) and carlos corporan. they don't wanna pay 4 mill for veteran goodness chris snyder, so they sure as heck ain't gonna pay for no russell martin, who forgot how to hit a few years back
i can't see josh hamilton in the he!! that is the boston media market.
One might even say they need 6.
He's coming back?
Amazing that he's been on 7(8) franchises already, and he's only 28.
The Blue Jays might have $$$ burning a hole in their pocket, but I doubt they spend it on too many players. They've already been making noises about cutting payroll.
I think the Tigers will bring back Boesch.. but they won't go into the season with Boesch, Dirks, Berry as the only corner OF options. They'll sign someone like Ross or Hunter to start in a corner and hit lefties, or trade for similar. A Justin Upton trade would not suproise me, but they don't have the pieces as far as I can tell (Porcello and something?) I'd be happy if the resigned Sanchez, but very surprised. I'd love to see them try to trade for Haren instead. I see the Tigers adding a reliever, too.
Also, it's splitsville for Delta Burke and Major Dad.
I do see them instead taking "buy low" trades that other teams want to dump for salary concerns. Like Marco Scutaro and AJ Burnett last year.
Jackson is on the Octavio Dotel power tour. Is Jackson some kind of head case, I'm amazed that a pitcher of his ability/potential keeps getting moved around so often.
Surprisingly, Delta Burke and Major Dad are still married, 21 years after that episode aired.
This is a bigger upset than Omar Vizquel ending up having a longer career than Carl Yastrzemski.
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