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2017 MLB Rule 5 Draft results | MLB.com

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Jim Furtado Posted: December 14, 2017 at 08:50 AM | 28 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Paul d mobile Posted: December 14, 2017 at 09:14 AM (#5592345)
Apparently a computer issue is delaying the draft, after the Tigers picked Victor Reyes from the D'Backs.
   2. fra paolo Posted: December 14, 2017 at 09:24 AM (#5592350)
Reyes is an interesting choice for Comerica Park, I'll give the Tigers that.

The Mets took my personal favourite, Burch Smith.

EDIT: Phillies also make an interesting move, taking the Twins' Nick Burdi, who seems worth a shot.

And the Astros took (literal) journeyman Anthony Gose (ex Blue Jays, Tigers, Rangers).
   3. fra paolo Posted: December 14, 2017 at 09:33 AM (#5592354)
Burch Smith went from the Mets to the Royals in a cash transaction or PTBNL, apparently.

EDIT: The Royals also got another Rule 5er from another team for cash/PTBNL, in Brad Keller from the Reds, who had drafted him from the Diamondbacks.
   4. Nasty Nate Posted: December 14, 2017 at 10:03 AM (#5592364)
And the Astros took (literal) journeyman Anthony Gose (ex Blue Jays, Tigers, Rangers).
By the way, he is now a pitcher.
   5. Jose is an Absurd Doubles Machine Posted: December 14, 2017 at 10:14 AM (#5592372)
That's how far he journeyed, from pinch runner to pitcher.
   6. Fernigal McGunnigle Posted: December 14, 2017 at 10:20 AM (#5592377)
Gose's entire pitching resume is 10.2 innings at Lakeland, in which he gave up 9 runs. That's not the sort of guy who normally gets nabbed in the Rule 5. Although if the Astros intend to use him as a pinch runner/defensive replacement/mopup reliever, that would be awesome.
   7. Nasty Nate Posted: December 14, 2017 at 10:31 AM (#5592389)
That's how far he journeyed, from pinch runner to pitcher.
He'll be a gritty backup catcher who plays the game the right way by the end of his career.

Gose's entire pitching resume is 10.2 innings at Lakeland, in which he gave up 9 runs.
The organization was familiar with his pitching from the 20 minutes he was on their team at the trading deadline 7 years ago.
   8. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: December 14, 2017 at 10:34 AM (#5592392)
What's the over/under on percentage of Rule 5 picks that will be relievers? 90%?
   9. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: December 14, 2017 at 10:40 AM (#5592402)
Pretty happy with the Pirates' haul here. They got a decent-looking groundball reliever, and also apparently sent the Phillies some international bonus money for the rights to Burdi.
   10. Zonk, Genius of the Stables Posted: December 14, 2017 at 10:41 AM (#5592403)
Gose's entire pitching resume is 10.2 innings at Lakeland, in which he gave up 9 runs. That's not the sort of guy who normally gets nabbed in the Rule 5. Although if the Astros intend to use him as a pinch runner/defensive replacement/mopup reliever, that would be awesome.


The famous Brooks Kieschnick/Christian Vazquez career path
   11. asinwreck Posted: December 14, 2017 at 11:26 AM (#5592481)
Cash Considerations should win ROY for the White Sox.
   12. Nasty Nate Posted: December 14, 2017 at 11:40 AM (#5592499)
What does this mean for Cash Considerations' hall of fame chances?
   13. Adam Starblind Posted: December 14, 2017 at 12:03 PM (#5592534)
And the Astros took (literal) journeyman Anthony Gose (ex Blue Jays, Tigers, Rangers).
By the way, he is now a pitcher.


How does he measure up to Syndergaard?
   14. Nasty Nate Posted: December 14, 2017 at 12:15 PM (#5592554)
about six inches shorter
   15. Fernigal McGunnigle Posted: December 14, 2017 at 12:36 PM (#5592587)
If Kevin Cash doesn't have a blog called Cash Considerations, he needs to start one pronto.
   16. Kiguchi Posted: December 14, 2017 at 12:58 PM (#5592620)
DRaysBay, SBN's Tampa Bay Rays blog, has an occasional column called "Cash Consideration" where they second guess in detail Cash's questionable in-game decisions.
   17. The Yankee Clapper Posted: December 14, 2017 at 12:58 PM (#5592622)
Although if the Astros intend to use him as a pinch runner/defensive replacement/mopup reliever, that would be awesome.

The Astros are almost certainly contenders - they just won the World Series - so do they think Gose can be something more, or do they think a PR/Defensive Replacement/Mop-Up Pitcher is actually worth a roster spot?
   18. Jose is an Absurd Doubles Machine Posted: December 14, 2017 at 01:07 PM (#5592633)
Supposedly Gose throws in the upper 90s and touches triple digits. For the waiver price bring him in and see what you got. Worst, and most likely case, you send him back. But if he pans out it's a big win. Fact is the one thing that Astros didn't have last year was a competent lefty in their bullpen and one of their division rivals just added a potentially middle of the order left handed bat.
   19. Nasty Nate Posted: December 14, 2017 at 01:19 PM (#5592653)
so do they think Gose can be something more, or do they think a PR/Defensive Replacement/Mop-Up Pitcher is actually worth a roster spot?
I'm guessing they think (or hope) that he is good enough to be a roster-able middle reliever or LOOGY, i.e. better than a mop-up guy. He didn't have a single PA batting last year and didn't play any outfield, so he won't be a real 2-way player.
   20. Khrushin it bro Posted: December 14, 2017 at 02:02 PM (#5592692)
So he's the next Babe Ruth?
   21. Rally Posted: December 14, 2017 at 02:10 PM (#5592698)
Fact is the one thing that Astros didn't have last year was a competent lefty in their bullpen and one of their division rivals just added a potentially middle of the order left handed bat.


The only way to stop a pitcher-turned-hitter is to put a hitter-turned-pitcher on the mound.
   22. Zonk, Genius of the Stables Posted: December 14, 2017 at 02:20 PM (#5592706)
Pretty happy with the Pirates' haul here. They got a decent-looking groundball reliever, and also apparently sent the Phillies some international bonus money for the rights to Burdi.


I'd agree --

Both the Burdis (he's got a brother in the Chisox system, I think) also throw REALLY hard -- I believe both can touch 100. If memory serves, Zach (the Chisox one) has the control problems, while Nick has the injury problems. But if he's healthy, I think he could be steal.

I see the Bucs also grabbed Damien Magnifico in the triple A phase - beyond having a great name - it wasn't that long ago (like just a year or two?) that he was supposed to be the Brewers closer of the future.

Other picks I like -

Julian Fernandez is another hard-thrower and opportunities always abound in the Giants bullpen. I also like the Suarez pick by the DBacks, but I suspect that's mainly because he's always been a bit skills inflated in my OOTP leagues and inevitably turns into a useful backend starter for a few years.

Riley Unroe is a guy that had some prospect sheen once upon a time, but has never hit. Still - he's young. A bit surprised to see Wander Franco left unprotected in the minor league phase, too - but I think there are two of them so I might be thinking of the other one (they're like the modern-day Alous -- though subsets of the Aybar clan).
   23. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: December 14, 2017 at 02:25 PM (#5592712)
Looks like it's the over on relievers.
   24. JJ1986 Posted: December 14, 2017 at 02:38 PM (#5592727)
Is Jose Mesa any relation?
   25. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: December 14, 2017 at 03:46 PM (#5592802)
Is Jose Mesa any relation?


It's the son of the famous closer.
   26. Walt Davis Posted: December 14, 2017 at 08:03 PM (#5592981)
The Cubs have a pen that could probably be out-pitched by some AAA pens and we couldn't find a single reliever to gamble on here?
   27. Davo's Favorite Tacos Are Moose Tacos Posted: December 14, 2017 at 11:37 PM (#5593057)
The Orioles picked up Nestor Cortes from the Yankees. He's a guy I just freakin' adore. A lefty starting pitcher who just turned 23 and has DOMINATED older competition in the minors the last two years: 18-8, 1.80 ERA, 210 innings, 220 Ks, 56 BBs, 9 homers while going all the way from A-ball to AAA. He’s short and doesn’t have a great fastball, so the scouts aren’t in love with him (though John Sickels recently listed him as #20 in their system), but—man, it’s really hard to argue with results like this.
   28. Der-K: downgraded to lurker Posted: December 15, 2017 at 12:02 AM (#5593063)
Cortes gets a lot of Nuno comps, which isn't a great sign.

22/zonk: yeah, this isn't that wander Franco.
Both Burdis have health problems (TJ). As seemingly every one who follows this stuff seemed to think, Zach was a near lock to get picked and probably my favorite guy here.

Gose had recently signed a minor league deal with Texas (making him draftable), who were going to give him a shot at a 2-way role. (I think this is the best way to use him - a lefty throwing 99 ain't nothing to sneeze at and the defense/punch running in CF is useful if you can fit him on the roster.)

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