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4-10-2013 OMNICHATTER

Omnichatter. It’s where the primates gather to discuss baseball games as they happen. Assuming, of course, they don’t get distracted by random bits of other pop culture or the fact that there is actually a ballplayer named Brad Peacock.

Gamingboy Posted: April 10, 2013 at 12:05 AM | 155 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   101. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: April 10, 2013 at 08:57 PM (#4410280)
DC hit parade.
   102. AT-AT at bat@AT&T Posted: April 10, 2013 at 08:57 PM (#4410281)
ian desmond up to .300 !
   103. boteman Posted: April 10, 2013 at 08:57 PM (#4410282)
Boston and Philly in weather delays with the Cubs and Indians games canceled due to inclement weather. If only there were a way to know which parts of the country would have cold or crappy weather in April...if only.

Wow, I thought Desmond would leg out an inside-the-park HR right there. Dr. Aza did not play that carom optimally.
   104. Mike A Posted: April 10, 2013 at 08:58 PM (#4410284)
Gattis is a neat story, but there isn't much dilemma when McCann gets back. You don't think about benching a catcher with a 118 career OPS+ for a hot rookie.

Gattis is interesting, though, because it's hard to get a read on him with conventional methods because of his odd (to say the least) career path. Maybe I should be more optimistic of his future.
   105. AT-AT at bat@AT&T Posted: April 10, 2013 at 08:59 PM (#4410285)
anyone have any PDF´s on global warming and its effects on batting/pitching in chicago or bethlehem, texas ?
   106. spike Posted: April 10, 2013 at 09:01 PM (#4410286)
Gattis has done nothing but hit since he came back. It's hard for me to resist concluding he's real as the anecdotal evidence continues to pile up.
   107. Gamingboy Posted: April 10, 2013 at 09:01 PM (#4410287)

anyone have any PDF´s on global warming and its effects on batting/pitching in chicago or bethlehem, texas ?


I believe that higher temperature would mean the ball would go farther.
   108. Joey B. has reignited his October #Natitude Posted: April 10, 2013 at 09:02 PM (#4410288)
Man, do I love the depth and balance in this Nats lineup. Love it, love it, love it.
   109. Depressoteric feels Royally blue these days Posted: April 10, 2013 at 09:06 PM (#4410292)
Jordan Zimmermann is just so competent. He does every part of the pitcher's game well, including laying down bunts. Never seen him do a poor one.
   110. boteman Posted: April 10, 2013 at 09:07 PM (#4410294)
Gattis is a neat story, but there isn't much dilemma when McCann gets back. You don't think about benching a catcher with a 118 career OPS+ for a hot rookie.

I have trouble with this line of thought. Why is the evidence right before our eyes not persuasive? I think it likely that when McCann comes back he will be nowhere near as hot as Gattis at the plate. So why not go with the hot hand until it's not hot?

I anticipate the answer will be: it won't last. To which I say: No shìt. Like McCann never ran into a funk at the plate? If a guy is hitting now, then play him now. When he tails off, swap him out. /rant
   111. boteman Posted: April 10, 2013 at 09:09 PM (#4410295)
Veal out of the game. Grab some pine, meat!
   112. Brian White Posted: April 10, 2013 at 09:10 PM (#4410297)
Gattis is a neat story, but there isn't much dilemma when McCann gets back. You don't think about benching a catcher with a 118 career OPS+ for a hot rookie.

Gattis is interesting, though, because it's hard to get a read on him with conventional methods because of his odd (to say the least) career path. Maybe I should be more optimistic of his future.


The dilemma isn't McCann or Gattis. Yeah, the answer is obviously McCann. The dilemma is who gets the bulk of the playing time during McCann's (presumably kinda frequent) days off and possible future DL stint - Gattis or Laird?

I agree he's quite hard to evaulate as a prospect, since we don't know how to account for his type of career.
   113. DA Baracus Posted: April 10, 2013 at 09:10 PM (#4410298)
Gattis is a neat story, but there isn't much dilemma when McCann gets back. You don't think about benching a catcher with a 118 career OPS+ for a hot rookie.


If it's the 87 OPS+ McCann we saw last year you think about it. It's not the decrease in playing time that will be the dilemma. It's do you keep him on the roster as a 3rd catcher and backup LF and send Schafer down or send Gattis down and keep Schafer and his useless bat?
   114. rb's team is hopeful for the new year! Posted: April 10, 2013 at 09:19 PM (#4410300)
If gattis continues on this path, you start him over mccann, and send laird down instead.
   115. Mike A Posted: April 10, 2013 at 09:22 PM (#4410301)
McCann isn't back for a while yet, so we can wait on it a bit. Personally, I think it's more of a question for next year and whether or not to re-sign McCann.

Anyways, I've never been a fan of riding the 'hot hand,' because I don't think it works particularly well over the long haul. Now maybe Gattis is for real. But that's something that will take a bit to find out. His minor league record, while good, is skewed by his age and odd career path. Pitchers will learn his weaknesses and adjust accordingly, like they did with Francoeur (granted, Gattis has better plate discipline than ol' Jeff, as does of course everyone on this planet and several others).

Braves cannot send Schafer down without losing him (so what, I guess, but the Braves like the guy). I'm not sure trading Laird is possible because he just signed this year. I think the best move would be to ditch Reed Johnson and keep Gattis around to do...whatever. And if McCann struggles, Gattis could become an option (I don't except McCann to struggle, he had an unusually low BABIP last year and when healthy the guy can hit).
   116. DA Baracus Posted: April 10, 2013 at 09:28 PM (#4410306)
They're not paying Laird or Johnson to be in AAA, and I can't see reliable backups on reasonable contracts passing through waivers. Schafer though will pass through. They got him off waivers from the Astros, nobody wants him.

Now watch somebody go on the DL right before McCann comes back and make this all moot.
   117. boteman Posted: April 10, 2013 at 09:30 PM (#4410307)
Drew Storen warming in the Nationals bullpen, which means that Zimmermann must be cruising through the White Sox lineup and must be stopped. Can't allow this lead to persist.
   118. DA Baracus Posted: April 10, 2013 at 09:31 PM (#4410309)
Speaking of Schafer, he almost got out of a run down between 2B and 3B because nobody on the Marlins covered 3B.
   119. boteman Posted: April 10, 2013 at 09:32 PM (#4410310)
Schafer though will pass through.

Schafer would suck anywhere. Maybe that's why Frank Wren likes him.
   120. rb's team is hopeful for the new year! Posted: April 10, 2013 at 09:32 PM (#4410311)
Speaking of Schafer, he almost got out of a run down between 2B and 3B because nobody on the Marlins covered 3B.

Marlins probably traded their 3rd baseman during the inning.
   121. boteman Posted: April 10, 2013 at 09:33 PM (#4410312)
...because nobody on the Marlins covered 3B.

That's actually pretty common in AA ball.
   122. Joey B. has reignited his October #Natitude Posted: April 10, 2013 at 09:34 PM (#4410315)
Good grief, I can't believe Davey won't even let Zimmermann start the 8th the way he's going tonight. This makes no sense at all.
   123. rb's team is hopeful for the new year! Posted: April 10, 2013 at 09:35 PM (#4410317)
I think the most likely outcome will come about because of another injury, but barring that, i think a trade would be likely.
   124. Mike A Posted: April 10, 2013 at 09:35 PM (#4410318)
Schafer has a 1.800 OPS, I can't see him getting through waivers.
   125. Lassus Posted: April 10, 2013 at 09:38 PM (#4410321)
I only just now saw that thing Valdespin and Murphy screwed the #### up. Jesus.

I'm glad that HR by Nava was able to distract Orso and whoever from spending 25 minutes making fun of Francona. Very unseemly.
   126. DA Baracus Posted: April 10, 2013 at 09:38 PM (#4410322)
Schafer has a 1.800 OPS, I can't see him getting through waivers.


As noted above, against a AA team.
   127. Depressoteric feels Royally blue these days Posted: April 10, 2013 at 09:41 PM (#4410325)
Drew Storen warming in the Nationals bullpen, which means that Zimmermann must be cruising through the White Sox lineup and must be stopped. Can't allow this lead to persist.
Eh, Storen's looked pretty good to me so far, as has Clippard. Only Soriano and H-Rod have given me pause. The numbers are superficially misleading, I'm looking more at their stuff.
   128. Bourbon Samurai Posted: April 10, 2013 at 09:43 PM (#4410327)
Eh, Storen's looked pretty good to me so far, as has Clippard. Only Soriano and H-Rod have given me pause. The numbers are superficially misleading, I'm looking more at their stuff.


Yeah, i'll agree with that. I was done with H-Rod last year. Get a lefty finally.
   129. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: April 10, 2013 at 09:45 PM (#4410329)
I must now recant my previous statements that I had never seen Laynce Nix have a good AB for the Phillies.

The ever-unprepared Gary Matthews called Laynce Nix, he of the lifetime .189/.268/.268 line as a Pinch-Hitter, "a professional hitter, at least pinch-hitting wise". Sarge is such a lazy tool as a color man.
   130. Joey B. has reignited his October #Natitude Posted: April 10, 2013 at 09:45 PM (#4410330)
You're supposed to pull your starters out early when they're not going well, and leave them in when they have the kind of stuff that Zimmermann had all night tonight.

For some bizarre reason that I can't fathom, Johnson is doing the exact opposite.
   131. Mike A Posted: April 10, 2013 at 09:45 PM (#4410331)
I wasn't being serious about Schafer's OPS.

But I'm still not 100% sure Schafer would get through waivers. At this time of year, there might be a team looking for backup that can play a decent CF.

(I personally don't really care if Schafer gets picked away, but as noted, the Braves seem to still really like the kid).
   132. Brian White Posted: April 10, 2013 at 09:45 PM (#4410332)
I think once the decision has to be made, and you want to keep Gattis, you send off whichever of Schafer and Reed Johnson is playing worse. If they're equal, ditch Reed since I think Schafer provides a bit better defense. Then get Gattis one game/week at C, spot starts in LF if either Heyward or Justin Upton need a day off, and primary pinch-hitting duties.
   133. Depressoteric feels Royally blue these days Posted: April 10, 2013 at 09:48 PM (#4410335)
For some bizarre reason that I can't fathom, Johnson is doing the exact opposite.
Because early in the season there's no need to ride your horses until they're all in a lather, especially when you have a fairly comfortable lead AND you want to get some work in for your key setup men.
   134. Brian White Posted: April 10, 2013 at 09:51 PM (#4410338)
Aw, man, Schafer struck out. I wanted to start a discussion about the worst player to ever have a five hit game.
   135. rb's team is hopeful for the new year! Posted: April 10, 2013 at 09:52 PM (#4410340)
#132

I think you're overlooking the fact that gattis might be the best hitter on the braves, and in fact, all of baseball.
   136. rb's team is hopeful for the new year! Posted: April 10, 2013 at 09:53 PM (#4410341)
#134

I think schafer has a 5 hit game on his resume, so you could still discuss him.
   137. boteman Posted: April 10, 2013 at 09:54 PM (#4410342)
Morse woulda had that!
   138. Bourbon Samurai Posted: April 10, 2013 at 09:57 PM (#4410344)
Well good, Soriano gives us a reasonably boring one
   139. Brian White Posted: April 10, 2013 at 09:59 PM (#4410347)
I think schafer has a 5 hit game on his resume, so you could still discuss him.


... I had no idea. Well, I probably did at one point in time. But then I forgot. Okay, who's the worst player to ever have two five hit games?
   140. DA Baracus Posted: April 10, 2013 at 10:01 PM (#4410351)
I wasn't being serious about Schafer's OPS.


I know.

But I'm still not 100% sure Schafer would get through waivers. At this time of year, there might be a team looking for backup that can play a decent CF.


He might not but I'd rather have Laird or Johnson than Schafer. All he has is defense, but the outfield defense is pretty damn good as is.
   141. Rickey! trades in sheep and threats Posted: April 10, 2013 at 10:06 PM (#4410355)
If it's the 87 OPS+ McCann we saw last year you think about it. It's not the decrease in playing time that will be the dilemma. It's do you keep him on the roster as a 3rd catcher and backup LF and send Schafer down or send Gattis down and keep Schafer and his useless bat?


You keep Gattis, who simply rakes and has nothing to prove anywhere but at the ML level, and either demote Schafer or cut Reed, depending on who is the worse player at that point. You just dropped Gattis into your cleanup slot and he's bombed two massive dingers and killed the ball all year. You don't #### with that guy.
   142. boteman Posted: April 10, 2013 at 10:28 PM (#4410368)
With 2 outs Papelbon made the "cut the throat" signal to the umpire to stop play with the rain falling and I heard a fan over the crowd mike yell, "Come on Papelbon you pu$$y!"

Classic!
   143. Joey B. has reignited his October #Natitude Posted: April 10, 2013 at 10:32 PM (#4410371)
There's the Joel Gascanrahan I remember so well from his Nats days.
   144. boteman Posted: April 10, 2013 at 10:32 PM (#4410372)
Gas-can-rahan walks the bases loaded with Manny Machado coming up.

One wild pitch and it's all tied up. Wow.

Can you say 8-5 lead for them Os? Sure, I knew you could.
   145. Dan Posted: April 10, 2013 at 10:35 PM (#4410374)
Yay lets use our worst reliever to close! What could possibly go wrong?
   146. The Yankee Clapper Posted: April 10, 2013 at 10:36 PM (#4410377)
Fenway sell-out streak ended today, too. Looks like a tough day for the Sawx barring a big bottom of 9th comeback.
   147. Bourbon Samurai Posted: April 10, 2013 at 10:39 PM (#4410380)
whoa brendan harris is still playing?
   148. Bourbon Samurai Posted: April 10, 2013 at 11:31 PM (#4410401)
man, Brendan Harris killed the thread. go a's.
   149. Bourbon Samurai Posted: April 10, 2013 at 11:32 PM (#4410402)
nice dp
   150. Jim Wisinski Posted: April 10, 2013 at 11:41 PM (#4410413)
whoa brendan harris is still playing?


Don't knock Brendan Harris, by fWAR he was the most valuable player (0.1) the Twins got in the Delmon Young trade.
   151. Bourbon Samurai Posted: April 10, 2013 at 11:41 PM (#4410414)
Boom, Brandon Moss!
   152. Bourbon Samurai Posted: April 10, 2013 at 11:43 PM (#4410418)
Don't knock Brendan Harris, by fWAR he was the most valuable player (0.1) the Twins got in the Delmon Young trade.


well, jeez, if they only woulda kept Delmon Young and his -0.2 war, they woulda won the pennant!

edit- thought you were saying they got him for Delmon Young.

Eh, whatever.
   153. Depressoteric feels Royally blue these days Posted: April 11, 2013 at 12:07 AM (#4410429)
I feel sorry for the Seattle Mariners.

In fact, as a fan of the Seattle Mariners, you all should feel sorry for ME.
   154. Dan Evensen Posted: April 11, 2013 at 01:07 AM (#4410463)
Anybody else following the Astros - Mariners game? Is the Seattle pitching bad or what?
   155. Lassus Posted: April 11, 2013 at 08:05 AM (#4410511)
In fact, as a fan of the Seattle Mariners, you all should feel sorry for ME.

Boo hoo poor, poor Nationals fan? No.
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