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Friday, April 19, 2013

4-19-2013 OMNICHATTER

The Red Sox return home for their first game at Fenway since the Marathon Bombings. Meanwhile, Strasburg faces Harvey, the Dodgers and Orioles have the day’s Interleague game and the 13-2 Braves head to Pittsburgh.

Oh, and let us again remind everyone that Mat Latos has a cat named Cat Latos.

Gamingboy Posted: April 19, 2013 at 12:29 AM | 194 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   101. boteman Posted: April 19, 2013 at 08:59 PM (#4419967)
I agree with the observation I think somebody here made during his last outing that Strasburg seems to lose the edge off his command when he throws with max effort. Maybe he should ease off a bit to get better results...than those 2 HR. ho boy.
   102. Russlan is fond of Dillon Gee Posted: April 19, 2013 at 08:59 PM (#4419968)
Here I'll agree with you. If a guy can get on base there is a place for him. Worst case you can be a useful PH somewhere.

Nimmo just turned 20 and plays centerfield. He could add some power as he gets older. Also, if he can stick in CF he doesn't need to hit for a ton of power to be a good player.
   103. AJMcCringleberry Posted: April 19, 2013 at 08:59 PM (#4419969)
Ha! A "Harvey's better" chant.
   104. Lassus Posted: April 19, 2013 at 09:00 PM (#4419970)
Here I'll agree with you. If a guy can get on base there is a place for him. Worst case you can be a useful PH somewhere.

I was hoping Tejada was turning into this with his great early run last year, but it now seems unlikely.
   105. rb's team is hopeful for the new year! Posted: April 19, 2013 at 09:02 PM (#4419973)
There are ducks running all over the field in pittsburgh, and they are hilarious.
   106. boteman Posted: April 19, 2013 at 09:03 PM (#4419975)
Strasburg now at 110 pitches with Tejada up. Possibly gassed since this is rare territory for him?
   107. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: April 19, 2013 at 09:04 PM (#4419976)
Well, the Pirates have been run by quacks for years.
   108. Russlan is fond of Dillon Gee Posted: April 19, 2013 at 09:04 PM (#4419977)
I was hoping Tejada was turning into this with his great early run last year, but it now seems unlikely.

What? Tejada doesn't have to be any better than he is right now and he's better than a PH.

Duda can hit but he needs to play first or DH. I like him but I would not be against a trade if brought back a guy who is a better fit for the team.
   109. rb's team is hopeful for the new year! Posted: April 19, 2013 at 09:07 PM (#4419979)
Upton thrown out on a pitch that was clearly a strike, but looks like holbrooke baited him.

Also, i miss bobby. Fredi never gets thrown out. What a punk.
   110. Joey B. Posted: April 19, 2013 at 09:09 PM (#4419980)
Those damn tack-on runs are freaking huge now.
   111. Dan Posted: April 19, 2013 at 09:09 PM (#4419981)
Harvey seems to be hitting a wall in the 7th, even at ~90 pitches.
   112. boteman Posted: April 19, 2013 at 09:09 PM (#4419982)
Wow. Juan D. Rodriguez has a 1-hit shutout going against Los Bravos tonight, ducks included.
   113. Lassus Posted: April 19, 2013 at 09:10 PM (#4419983)
Oh jesus.
   114. Joey B. Posted: April 19, 2013 at 09:11 PM (#4419984)
Oooooo, this is starting to get interesting now...
   115. Dan Posted: April 19, 2013 at 09:11 PM (#4419985)
This game got interesting quickly.
   116. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: April 19, 2013 at 09:11 PM (#4419986)
Can we agree to forget I said the Nats were never going to score against Harvey?
   117. Dan Posted: April 19, 2013 at 09:12 PM (#4419988)
Looks like Tejada did fall and never got the bag at all.
   118. AJMcCringleberry Posted: April 19, 2013 at 09:12 PM (#4419989)
Ugh.
   119. cardsfanboy Posted: April 19, 2013 at 09:12 PM (#4419990)
Rain delay in the bottom seventh, in a game we are losing 8-2....and in which we had gotten two hits(homeruns from Holliday and Beltran) might as well call the game now.
   120. boteman Posted: April 19, 2013 at 09:14 PM (#4419992)
I don't know how they aren't carrying Tejada off the field. That hurt me just to watch it.
   121. Honkie Kong Posted: April 19, 2013 at 09:14 PM (#4419993)
F-ing Wandy. Braves always have trouble with him. Had some success initially but it has been a one way street since.
   122. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: April 19, 2013 at 09:16 PM (#4419994)
The Mets booth is terrific. They don't talk over each other and they'd focused on the game and provided great insight. I normally don't like the three man booth but they do it right.
   123. Lassus Posted: April 19, 2013 at 09:16 PM (#4419995)
One more, Matt. One more.
   124. Dan Posted: April 19, 2013 at 09:17 PM (#4419996)
Harvey 2/3 the way to getting out of the tight situation with limited damage, and no further damage from bases loaded wirh 0 outs. Just needs to get Span...
   125. AJMcCringleberry Posted: April 19, 2013 at 09:18 PM (#4419998)
#### yeah, Harvey!
   126. Lassus Posted: April 19, 2013 at 09:18 PM (#4420000)
####### AWESOME
   127. Dan Posted: April 19, 2013 at 09:18 PM (#4420001)
That was impressive.
   128. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: April 19, 2013 at 09:19 PM (#4420002)
Maybe Halladay isn't washed up after all.
   129. Russlan is fond of Dillon Gee Posted: April 19, 2013 at 09:20 PM (#4420003)
That's a very impressive job from Harvey. Just as impressive to me as the innings in which he cruised.
   130. boteman Posted: April 19, 2013 at 09:20 PM (#4420004)
Whenever I watch a game involving the Mets I tune in to the Mets broadcast if Darling is in the booth. I like his analysis and insight.

Of course, if it's in L.A. I tune in Vin Scully.
   131. Lassus Posted: April 19, 2013 at 09:22 PM (#4420005)
GF: Are the Mets winning?

ME: Yes.

GF: Well, it's ok that you weren't watching the manhunt then, as that's almost as unique an event.
   132. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: April 19, 2013 at 09:22 PM (#4420006)
John McDonald has fouled three balls off his foot in this at bat.
   133. boteman Posted: April 19, 2013 at 09:22 PM (#4420007)
The Nationals have surrendered: Zack Duke is on to mop up the mess left by Strasburg. :-(
   134. Russlan is fond of Dillon Gee Posted: April 19, 2013 at 09:24 PM (#4420009)
Nimmo is 4-4 today and his average is .450. He even has a triple today.
   135. Russlan is fond of Dillon Gee Posted: April 19, 2013 at 09:25 PM (#4420010)
GF: Well, it's ok that you weren't watching the manhunt then, as that's almost as unique an event.

Someone call the fire department because Lassus just got burned!
   136. Joey B. Posted: April 19, 2013 at 09:26 PM (#4420013)
Now the ball will look like a grapefruit the rest of the series. That pitching staff is a single shot rifle, and their one round has been fired.
   137. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: April 19, 2013 at 09:29 PM (#4420016)
Oh that's a super play by Wright!
   138. Russlan is fond of Dillon Gee Posted: April 19, 2013 at 09:31 PM (#4420018)
Yikes, Scott Rice pitched 14 years in the minors before making his MLB debut? Dang.
   139. boteman Posted: April 19, 2013 at 09:31 PM (#4420019)
PSSSST! Hey Ryan Zimmerman, maybe you should take some tips on playing 3B from your buddy David Wright.
   140. JJ1986 Posted: April 19, 2013 at 09:32 PM (#4420021)
LaRoche badly missed that grapefruit.
   141. Russlan is fond of Dillon Gee Posted: April 19, 2013 at 09:37 PM (#4420025)
Ankiel hit another homer. Man, Ankiel certainly was blessed with a lot of natural talent. It's easy to imagine parallel universe where he won a Cy Young or three. It's also easy to imagine another where he's a HOF calibre outfielder.
   142. AJMcCringleberry Posted: April 19, 2013 at 09:38 PM (#4420028)
Ike heating up!
   143. boteman Posted: April 19, 2013 at 09:39 PM (#4420030)
Storen must think this is the NLDS or sumpin.
   144. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: April 19, 2013 at 09:40 PM (#4420031)
I went to the first Futures game in 1999. The scorebook compared players to MLB players and Ankiels comp was Koufax. yeah the talent was there but man what an unfair comparison for a kid.
   145. Bourbon Samurai Posted: April 19, 2013 at 09:41 PM (#4420032)
Ok, is it time to panic now? We can panic now right?

I ASKED IF WE COULD PANIC NOW!
   146. Bourbon Samurai Posted: April 19, 2013 at 09:42 PM (#4420034)
Ankiel hit another homer. Man, Ankiel certainly was blessed with a lot of natural talent. It's easy to imagine parallel universe where he won a Cy Young or three. It's also easy to imagine another where he's a HOF calibre outfielder.


He was great in DC as a teammate. He has a great future as a coach or a manager if he wants it- AH ####. I'm changing the channel.
   147. Lassus Posted: April 19, 2013 at 09:42 PM (#4420035)
Man, Storen is having problems.
   148. RollingWave Posted: April 19, 2013 at 09:42 PM (#4420036)
you know it's a good game for the Yankee offense when even Ichiro has a double.... or rather... 2 of them(!!)
   149. AJMcCringleberry Posted: April 19, 2013 at 09:42 PM (#4420037)
Duda again too! This is a fun game.
   150. Joey B. Posted: April 19, 2013 at 09:43 PM (#4420039)
I can imagine what Needham is probably saying about Storen right now.
   151. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: April 19, 2013 at 09:43 PM (#4420040)
OK, stuff like this is why I love baseball.

One of the talking points in the Votto thread today was the game where the commentators were criticizing Edwin Encarnacion for not being clutch moments before he homered.

Now, we get blowhard Keith Hernandez shitting on Duda for "being too passive" SECONDS before he homers to center.
   152. boteman Posted: April 19, 2013 at 09:44 PM (#4420041)
I'm changing the channel.

I hear the ducks in Pittsburgh are entertaining.
   153. Yonder Alonso in misguided trousers (cardinal) Posted: April 19, 2013 at 09:44 PM (#4420042)
and now Duda!

My Dad and I texted the same thing to each other at the same time-- about Ike hitting 2 homers, and maybe he's figuring it out-- just now, with almost the exact same wording. Clearly I am my father's son. Of course, he's more of a Yankee fan and I can't stand 'em, but otherwise.
   154. Russlan is fond of Dillon Gee Posted: April 19, 2013 at 09:45 PM (#4420044)
Duda has been killing it at the plate this year. 1.235 OPS so far.
   155. cardsfanboy Posted: April 19, 2013 at 09:46 PM (#4420049)
Phillies win against the Cardinals...
   156. Dan Evensen Posted: April 19, 2013 at 09:48 PM (#4420052)
It's time to start thinking about getting rid of Storen.

I hate to say this, but this Nationals team reminds me more of the 2010 team than the 2012 team...
   157. Russlan is fond of Dillon Gee Posted: April 19, 2013 at 09:50 PM (#4420054)
I hate to say this, but this Nationals team reminds me more of the 2010 team than the 2012 team...

With today's loss, the Nats are now on pace for 91 wins. EVERYBODY PANIC!
   158. boteman Posted: April 19, 2013 at 09:54 PM (#4420060)
#bust
   159. boteman Posted: April 19, 2013 at 09:56 PM (#4420063)
Matt Harvey > Strasburg >> Chien-Ming Wang >>>> Dizzy Dean's rotting corpse >>>>>>>>>> Drew Storen
   160. Bourbon Samurai Posted: April 19, 2013 at 10:00 PM (#4420066)
With today's loss, the Nats are now on pace for 91 wins. EVERYBODY PANIC!



AAAAAH LOOOTING!

There seems to be no more baseball on tv, which is bullshit.
   161. boteman Posted: April 19, 2013 at 10:00 PM (#4420069)
Uecker telling a story about how the Brewers made him a scout before they stuck him in the broadcast booth, to be continued after this commercial message from our sponsors.
   162. Lassus Posted: April 19, 2013 at 10:15 PM (#4420080)
Samtramrjzjilla did manage to calm down and give me a quality start tonight after all that nonsense in the first inning.
   163. boteman Posted: April 19, 2013 at 10:21 PM (#4420086)
Jeff S. batting for himself in the 7th nursing a 4-3 deficit. Is the Cubs bullpen that untrustworthy or just worn out?

Or did the Cubs just trade their entire bullpen for Drew Storen in the past hour?
   164. Drexl Spivey Posted: April 19, 2013 at 10:36 PM (#4420100)
Uecker telling a story about how the Brewers made him a scout before they stuck him in the broadcast booth, to be continued after this commercial message from our sponsors.


Selig has told this story before. Bud gave Uecker a scouting job for a year with the intention of giving him an announcer job once the job opened up.

Uecker's scouting reports would conclude with something vague like "could eventually contribute to a major league team."

Uecker's (weak) joke involves getting food stains on the reports.

   165. Honkie Kong Posted: April 19, 2013 at 10:42 PM (#4420108)
Is Colorado for real?
Fowler seems primed for a breakout. CarGo and Tulo are off to awesome starts. Cuddyer should cool down soon.
Their bullpen has been awesome..

Guess it is the usual question of if the pitchers can hold up for a season in Colorado.
   166. Honkie Kong Posted: April 19, 2013 at 10:44 PM (#4420109)
Wonder how the Houston bullpen is going to blow this game.
Cleveland v Houston is a battle of futility.
   167. Drexl Spivey Posted: April 19, 2013 at 10:50 PM (#4420115)
The Brewers better score on Kevin Gregg. The guy was cut by the Angels earlier this month.

He's now pitching in a one-run game in the eighth.
   168. Honkie Kong Posted: April 19, 2013 at 10:54 PM (#4420119)
Incidentally, Darvish with another great start.
Early Cy contender.
   169. boteman Posted: April 19, 2013 at 10:55 PM (#4420120)
Kevin Gregg is the batting team's best hope.

And man, oh MAN! Jean Segura can fly. He's putting on a baserunning clinic for the Brewers.
   170. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: April 19, 2013 at 10:56 PM (#4420121)
Welcome back, Kevin Gregg, you piece of ####.
   171. Mike Webber Posted: April 19, 2013 at 10:57 PM (#4420122)
Is Colorado for real?
Fowler seems primed for a breakout. CarGo and Tulo are off to awesome starts. Cuddyer should cool down soon.
Their bullpen has been awesome..

Guess it is the usual question of if the pitchers can hold up for a season in Colorado.


I can't see Francis making it through the season, though if he can put up a 85+ ERA I guess that is okay for a 5th starter. I could see other four being okay IF they can stay healthy. But I can't see this pitching staff winning a playoff series.
   172. Drexl Spivey Posted: April 19, 2013 at 10:57 PM (#4420123)
.
   173. boteman Posted: April 19, 2013 at 11:04 PM (#4420127)
So much for the baserunning clinic. Cubs could've had a double play there when Segura ran back to 1B, but it didn't look like ANYBODY knew what was going on for a second there.

Oh F. F. S.
   174. Honkie Kong Posted: April 19, 2013 at 11:05 PM (#4420129)
Seeing Joe Smith reminded me. Who won the mega trade of crap where Carp/Putz/Gutierrez got traded between the Mets/Mariners/Indians?

Looks like Seattle at first skim
   175. Honkie Kong Posted: April 19, 2013 at 11:07 PM (#4420133)
So much for the baserunning clinic. Cubs could've had a double play there when Segura ran back to 1B, but it didn't look like ANYBODY knew what was going on for a second there.

Oh F. F. S.


They should have a tag team death match. Cubs/Brewers versus Mariners/Astros.
The loser gets to have their whole team dunked in the Yankee stadium moat, where there may be or not, sharks with lasers attached.
   176. SoSH U at work Posted: April 19, 2013 at 11:12 PM (#4420135)
So much for the baserunning clinic. Cubs could've had a double play there when Segura ran back to 1B, but it didn't look like ANYBODY knew what was going on for a second there.


I thought the Germany Schaefer rule wiped out running the bases in reverse order after a base had been legally established, but apparently it only involves a runner doing so for the purpose of deceiving the defense or trying to make a mockery of the game, not because he's a nitwit.

Thanks Segura.
   177. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: April 19, 2013 at 11:13 PM (#4420136)
Gameday sorta went nuts that inning. Can someone recap what went wrong with the Brewers on the basepaths?
   178. Honkie Kong Posted: April 19, 2013 at 11:14 PM (#4420137)
Hanson doing his dancing between the raindrops game. 6 hits, 2 BBs in 4 innings with 1 K, and no runs!
Man, he had a steep decline. From top young power arm to Jose Lima.
   179. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: April 19, 2013 at 11:16 PM (#4420138)
That was a very... Cub-like debut for Borboun.
   180. Los Angeles El Hombre de Anaheim Posted: April 19, 2013 at 11:20 PM (#4420141)
Brendan Harris, bringing the lumber.
   181. boteman Posted: April 19, 2013 at 11:20 PM (#4420142)
#177 - Jean Segura was caught in a rundown between 2B & 3B so Braun advanced to 2B and stood there. They chased Segura back to 2B where he slid in "safely" but Braun was called out, meaning Segura would have been safe had he just stayed there.

Instead he decided that since Braun was already standing on 2B, out or not, he would run back to 1B since that was the nearest safe location for him. The umpires stood there with their thumbs up their butts and allowed him to take 1B safely while an infielder chased him down holding the ball.

I don't know if any of this is right because my head still doesn't truly understand what happened there, nor did Uecker apparently.

To add insult to stupidity, Segura was thrown out trying to steal 2B a second time in that same inning. The mind boggles.
   182. SoSH U at work Posted: April 19, 2013 at 11:21 PM (#4420145)
Gameday sorta went nuts that inning. Can someone recap what went wrong with the Brewers on the basepaths?


Brewers have runners on first and second. Segura on second, breaks on first move, but Camp lifts his leg and throws to third. Segura retreats to second, where Braun is already standing (having taken off after Segura did). Cubs tag Segura (who has legal possession of the bag), then Braun (who is ruled out). Segura then takes off for FIRST* (which had been occupied by Braun, though he's no longer a baserunner). He makes it back to first safely.

Then he got thrown out trying to steal second base, after having stolen second earlier in the inning.

I've never seen anything like it.


* The second base ump missed the fact that the Cubs might have tagged Segura when he lifted his foot off the bag heading back to first. Hard to tell whether they actually got him.
   183. Mike Webber Posted: April 19, 2013 at 11:21 PM (#4420146)
thanks boteman, that sounds wild.
and thanks SoSH too.
   184. boteman Posted: April 19, 2013 at 11:31 PM (#4420152)
I wonder if Segura would've been credited with a second stolen base had he taken 2B safely the second time. I mean, he should've been called out going back to 1B, right? But since nothing else went right that inning why not, eh??? That would be one for the trivia books had it occurred.
   185. SoSH U at work Posted: April 19, 2013 at 11:38 PM (#4420155)
I wonder if Segura would've been credited with a second stolen base had he taken 2B safely the second time. I mean, he should've been called out going back to 1B, right? But since nothing else went right that inning why not, eh??? That would be one for the trivia books had it occurred.


I don't see why he wouldn't have. He was granted legal possession of first base under rule mlb 7.08(i):

Rule 7.08 Any runner is out when --

(i) After he has acquired legal possession of a base, he runs the bases in reverse order for the purpose of confusing the defense or making a travesty of the game. The umpire shall immediately call ?Time? and declare the runner out


In this case, he wasn't determined to have gone in reverse order for either of those reasons, so he was legally allowed to reclaim a base he had already occupied. Thus, if he had successfully stolen second again, he'd have to get credit for it, I think.
   186. Drexl Spivey Posted: April 19, 2013 at 11:39 PM (#4420156)
I mean, he should've been called out going back to 1B, right?


No. A runner can return to a previously occupied base.
   187. Los Angeles El Hombre de Anaheim Posted: April 20, 2013 at 12:18 AM (#4420172)
Angels squeeze out of a huge jam in the 7th, bases loaded, one out and Prince Fielder grounds into a DP. Detroit's stranded 10 in 7 innings.
   188. boteman Posted: April 20, 2013 at 12:22 AM (#4420174)
Bumgarner fakes a bunt but slaps to SS/3B into a Padres wheel play, who almost turned a triple play on it. Tagged out Belt going to 3B, threw to 2B to put out Blanco, and with a better throw might have gotten Bumgarner charging to 1B.

An uncommon night of baseball.
   189. Every Inge Counts Posted: April 20, 2013 at 12:22 AM (#4420176)
I miss the good old days of the Tigers' challenging Murderers Row...2 runs in 23 innings (Tigers pitching have allowed 6 runs only).
   190. Los Angeles El Hombre de Anaheim Posted: April 20, 2013 at 12:32 AM (#4420179)
Pujols punches in a third run for the Angels. I'd never heard of Luis Jimenez until last week, but he's caught fire for the Angels while playing a strong third base. A real shot in the arm for the lineup.

The Angels play the Tigers, Rangers, @ Mariners, @ Oakland in a row. They really need to finish the month strong go avoid the same big hole they were stuck in last April. So far, so good tonight.
   191. boteman Posted: April 20, 2013 at 12:33 AM (#4420180)
I miss the good old days when Davey Johnson declared "World Series or bust!" The optimism, when the Nats had a few power threats, solid infield defense, formidable pitching rotation, dependable bullpen. Man, those were the days! Seems like only a couple weeks ago.
   192. Tom Nawrocki Posted: April 20, 2013 at 12:42 AM (#4420182)
Jhoulys Chacin tonight became the first Rockies starter to throw 100 pitches in a game since Jeremy Guthrie last June. He left in the seventh with a tweak in his back, although it didn't look too serious, and up 3-0 in the seventh he was going to come out soon anyway.

He's now 3-0 with a 1.46 ERA this year, and has a 2.35 ERA in his last 13 starts, dating back to when he came off the DL last year. If he keeps this up, you guys are going to have to learn how to spell "Jhoulys."
   193. boteman Posted: April 20, 2013 at 01:16 AM (#4420192)
Those godless Giants win with the help of a Pagan.
   194. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: April 20, 2013 at 07:14 PM (#4420714)
a reason to dislike miller park. because of shadows the easy fly ball drops because nobody can see the ball
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