Back in 2008 Shane Victorino made it clear to Dodgers pitcher Hiroki Kuroda that you do not throw at his head. Tonight, he made it clear to Giants pitcher Ramon Ramirez that it is not ok to throw at his back simply because you’re the defending the World Series Champions, down 8-2, and in the midst of getting embarrassed at home.
Shane was mad as hell and he wasn’t going to take it anymore. He tossed his bat aside, started towards the mound, and was temporarily restrained by home plate umpire Mike Muchlinski. All the while, Giants catcher Eli Whiteside was hopping up and down like he’d just freebased a Red Bull and speed.
Placido Polanco, who was on first at the time, joined the fray only to be form-tackled by the completely over-stimulated Whiteside. Pushing and shoving ensued, but no clean punches were landed.
Victorino, who in an effort to get involved in the fracas/brouhaha/melee/donnybrook forcibly shoved aside plate ump Muchlinski, surely is facing a suspension. Ramirez and Whiteside will likely miss time as well.
As for the game itself - the Phils won their second straight over the Giants with a 9-2 win.
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Posted: August 06, 2011 at 11:55 AM |
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1. AndrewJ Posted: August 06, 2011 at 12:27 PM (#3894149)Over their last 162 regular season games, the Phils are 108-54. Perhaps comparisons to the 1975-76 Reds and '86 Mets are apropos...
It's hard for me to believe, but at the very beginning of the season I was talking to a few Phillies fans who were telling me that they were actually concerned about their club.
I was thinking to myself "You've got to be f*****g kidding me." Any idiot who follows and knows anything about baseball at all could tell that this was going to be a great team.
You're usual hyperbole aside, there was legitimate concern over Utley's health (like in not playing this year) and the bullpen and general overall aging of the club. Utley, Rollins and Polanco are showing signs of age but performing pretty well anyway. I doubt any idiot predicted how well Worley and Kendrick would pitch. And I remember you saying that Bastardo would be in the argument for best relief pitcher in baseball.
Hunter Pence has won as many games as a Phillie (7, in 7 games) as he did in the previous 30 games as an Astro.
(Also: Rollins stole 3rd with an an 8-2 lead just before Victorino batted. Unwritten Rules violation?)
I'd still take the Phils over any other team in MLB, even NY and BOS, in the World Series. Especially if Roy Oswalt comes back well.
The 2009 Phils got as far as Game 6 of the World Series on Cliff Lee alone. With Lee, Halladay, Hamels, Worley and a healthy Oswalt in the rotation, the Phils could be frightening in the 2011 Series.
Looked more like a ruckus or a rumble to me. Or maybe I just like words that start with 'r' this morning.
I blame Whiteside for this escalating. Guy was jumping up and down like he was getting himself psyched up for a few rounds of boxing.
Yeah, what was up with that. At first I figured he just wanted to get in front of Victorino, but then... Also, very poor tackling on hist part.
And Schneider swung 3-0, coulda been any, all or none of that . . .
I blame Whiteside for this escalating. Guy was jumping up and down like he was getting himself psyched up for a few rounds of boxing
Don't know that the jumping is punishable. And, to me, the tackle comes from Polanco approaching from first, from his peripheral vision. Though the "oh-s#!%-someone's-on-me" reaction's understandable, you've got to punish that.
But Victorino not only takes the first step, and pushes the ump aside to get into the fray, he then gets pulled out of there, breaks free again, runs around the scrum and jumps into the back of Hensley Meulens.
And has no one seen Kung Fu Panda apparently throw a punch? Looks like he gets one in as Romo tries to pull him back. Can't see if he or Romo pull the punch, but Sandoval definitely throws it.
3 days for Pablo and Shane
2 for Eli
& 1 for Placido (and maybe Ramon Ramirez if one can say it's intentional)
Granted I'm biased but that pitch sure looked like Ramirez took aim and fired. It did not look like it "got away".
Worley may not even make the post-season roster if Oswalt comes back healthy. Kendrick has handled the long relief/spot starter role very well this year. SSS, but Worley had trouble the couple of times he didn't pitch on a regular schedule. And even the tools-lovin'** Phils know that Worley's going to regress sometime.
** Not that there's anything wrong with that, if you are very good at identifying tools and how they fit.
True, but hitting a guy in the butt is "playing the game the right way." As opposed to throwing the ball two feet over the guy's head, where there is absolutely no chance of actually hurting anybody.
one thing i'd also like to point out is that there was no retaliation from the phillies' pitchers. i'd be very surprised if there was any retaliation today or tomorrow, either.
if they started tomorrow, i'd have worley above oswalt in the playoff pecking order. oswalt needs to prove that he's something more than a 6 inning pitcher before i'd slot him ahead of the rookie, and if we're thinking about which of them would be more effective coming out of the bullpen, i'd probably give that nod to oswalt, thinking the uptick in velocity could bring him back to his peak form.
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