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Tuesday, March 01, 2011

A Decade of Primacy

Today, Baseball Think Factory nee Primer turns 10. Hopefully, we're all 10 years wiser, though from my waistband, I think I'm more aptly described as 10 years jollier. Dan and Jim and Repoz and the rest of the present and past contributors to this site send out our deepest thanks for the time you've spent with us over the last decade.
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   1. JoeC Posted: March 01, 2011 at 06:30 AM (#3760120)
Wow - congratulations! After ten years, maybe it really *is* a trap...
   2. The kids disappeared, now Der-K has too much candy Posted: March 01, 2011 at 06:37 AM (#3760123)
Behold!
   3. PreservedFish Posted: March 01, 2011 at 06:42 AM (#3760125)
I would probably be a superior human in almost every way had it not been for the hours spent on this site.

But, I would know less about baseball, so, I guess it's working the way it's supposed to.
   4. odds are meatwad is drunk Posted: March 01, 2011 at 06:47 AM (#3760126)
Been here for 8 of em, much to your dismay! I love this site keep it up jim
   5. SoSHially Unacceptable Posted: March 01, 2011 at 06:49 AM (#3760128)
Been here for about 9 of those birthdays. Damn, that's a hell of a lot of lost productivity from my various employers.
   6. Dr. Vaux Posted: March 01, 2011 at 07:07 AM (#3760133)
Hooray!
   7. jwb Posted: March 01, 2011 at 07:08 AM (#3760134)
Hmm. I think my first post was 8/7/2001, give or take a day. Wasted many a fine hour here. Thank you to all of you!
   8. Monty Posted: March 01, 2011 at 08:21 AM (#3760141)
Happy birthday, Primer.
   9. Baldrick Posted: March 01, 2011 at 08:23 AM (#3760142)
Jesus. 10 years. I was definitely here in 2001, though maybe not until the fall.

I can still remember where I was when I first opened the Giambi/Mabry thread. It was the day before I left on a backpacking trip around Europe.

Best Primer memories? Mine has to be the 2003 playoff chatters. His father is the district attorney!
   10. dirk Posted: March 01, 2011 at 08:37 AM (#3760144)
almost everything in life i relate to baseball, and in the past ten years i've lurked here pretty much everyday, so i hold you all responsible.
   11. Jose Molina wants a nickname like "A-Rod" Posted: March 01, 2011 at 08:44 AM (#3760146)
wow. seriously wow. for 10 years I've been coming here? i gotta get a life.
   12. Swedish Chef Posted: March 01, 2011 at 08:45 AM (#3760147)
Hooray to ten years of baseball and semi-relevant asides.

EDIT: Changed unoriginal joke.
   13. Walt Davis Posted: March 01, 2011 at 11:09 AM (#3760155)
Surely the true birthday is the anniversary of my first post! :-)

And I'm sure it was terse and to the point.
   14. Walt Davis Posted: March 01, 2011 at 11:10 AM (#3760156)
Wait, this is amazing. "All your bases are belong to us" just celebrated its 10th birthday 2 weeks ago.
   15. Hack Wilson Posted: March 01, 2011 at 01:39 PM (#3760164)
And after 10 years I still hate pants.
   16. Sylvain Posted: March 01, 2011 at 02:29 PM (#3760177)
thanks!
   17. villageidiom Posted: March 01, 2011 at 02:29 PM (#3760178)
Congrats aplenty.
   18. toratoratora Posted: March 01, 2011 at 02:37 PM (#3760179)
Congrats to the Primer. Thanks for finishing the job Bill James started and ruining most baseball writing for me...in a good way, but of course.
:-)
   19. Dan Lee is some pumkins Posted: March 01, 2011 at 02:39 PM (#3760180)
Ten years of r.s.b. ported to the web and stripped of its spark.

Here's to another ten and then some! Y'know, if it can survive that long without being a business in any real sense of the word.
   20. Loren F. Posted: March 01, 2011 at 02:40 PM (#3760181)
Congrats! I don't post that often but I've been here since late 2001, through the legendary Mabry-Giambi trade, countless Piazza jokes, the PETCO thread, the... uh... Geez, you'd think there'd be more highlights. ;)
   21. tfbg9 Posted: March 01, 2011 at 02:45 PM (#3760183)
ZZZ ;-)
   22. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: March 01, 2011 at 02:46 PM (#3760184)
I've only been here about 2 1/2 years but I've already found that when baseball news breaks this is the place I want to read about it. The collective insight of the people here is better than the professionals (though of course many of the people here are professional writers). Congrats and thanks for this delightful time waster or time filler depending on your point of view.
   23. Cabbage Posted: March 01, 2011 at 03:04 PM (#3760191)
Here since a few months before the switch to BTF. I love threads that veer into history, Jack Keefe, and long walks on the beach.
   24. ckash Posted: March 01, 2011 at 03:13 PM (#3760198)
I've been here since the beginning, and I'm pretty positive there's not another website from 2001 that I still follow. Heck I've changed emails from earthlink to msn to yahoo and now to gmail in that time. BBTF is the only thing on the intertubes I've been faithful to.
   25. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: March 01, 2011 at 03:18 PM (#3760201)
I lurked through most of the 2003 playoffs, and then "debuted" commenting on the Schilling to Boston trade. I've now met Primates on 3 continents--including staying at Phil's house in Toowoomba--and probably wasted an astonishing amount of time here. Happy Birthday!
   26. shoewizard Posted: March 01, 2011 at 03:21 PM (#3760204)
Been hanging out since 2004. I don't want the time back. What else would I have been doing?
   27. Devin has a deep burning passion for fuzzy socks Posted: March 01, 2011 at 03:23 PM (#3760205)
Been here since the start, and there have been a lot of great times. And some steroids threads. Thanks for giving us the sandbox to play in.
   28. John DiFool2 Posted: March 01, 2011 at 03:29 PM (#3760209)
Ten years of r.s.b. ported to the web and stripped of its spark.


You mean stripped of its trolls.
   29. Famous Original Joe C Posted: March 01, 2011 at 03:33 PM (#3760212)
Congratulations Jim, Dan, et al!

Been coming here since 2002 myself. Today, I'm proud to say I'm part of the best NBA discussion on the internet.
   30. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: March 01, 2011 at 03:38 PM (#3760214)
Wow, I have spent at least 8 or 9 years on this site. Am I the biggest idiot ever?
   31. Shooty Is Disappointed With His Midstream Urine Posted: March 01, 2011 at 03:41 PM (#3760216)
Congratulations to the best soccer message board on the planet!

My BBTF highlights:

Hall of Merit threads on the Negro Leagues.
Poop threads
Ball in the crotch thread
Soccer thread
Migrating here from the ESPN Classic Baseball Game message board with Gaelan.

Also, I've probably met about 20 primates by now and not all of them have been terrifying. So that's something!
   32. Matthew E Posted: March 01, 2011 at 03:44 PM (#3760217)
And many more!
   33. The Yankee Clapper Posted: March 01, 2011 at 03:49 PM (#3760221)
Just for the record, all the humorous pseudonymous posts on the old Primer were mine.
   34. Pat Rapper's Delight Posted: March 01, 2011 at 03:55 PM (#3760224)
I don't remember when or how I found Primer, but I remember following the Game Chatter threads for the 2002 playoffs since I was living and working out of Irvine, CA, that summer. Apparently the Angels won't win the Series again until I return.
   35. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: March 01, 2011 at 03:57 PM (#3760225)
Also, I've probably met about 20 primates by now and not all of them have been terrifying. So that's something!
I'd say the terrifying ratio has been a lot lower than I expected. Probably not more than 2-in-5. Of course, terrifying is a relative thing, you have to account for Dial. (Just kidding Chris, we love you.)

Also, I've been to a Primer wedding, and invited to another. That betters the number of weddings I've been invited to from other friends and family. Perhaps I'm just not that popular.
   36. karkface killah Posted: March 01, 2011 at 03:59 PM (#3760229)
Been here since 2003. Mostly lurking. Lots of (happily) wasted hours. How many times have I laughed aloud at something I read on BTF? Then had to try and explain it to a girlfriend or wife? Thanks to all who contribute and make this such a great site.

Option J.
   37. Home Run Teal & Black Black Black Gone! Posted: March 01, 2011 at 04:00 PM (#3760230)
I joined in early 2003 after reading Moneyball. Baseball Primer got a shoutout in the back under the "do you want to learn more?" heading. The Marlins were 19-29. Dontrelle had just been called up; Miguel Cabrera was to be shortly. Things progressed rapidly that season.

There's a great deal of good and a fair amount of bad here.

1. The steroid threads are awful: bad faith, sophistry and the worst kind of linguistic nihilism--on all parties. They're not discussions; they are blood feuds.
2. There's a couple of bomb-throwers who are allowed free rein in politically linked threads and single-handedly get them shut down but do not get disciplined.
3. The site lost a large amount of it's chaotic fun and flair with registration. Probably posters too; I know, just from my experience, that I rarely go through the trouble of registering to join a site I've no experience with.
4. Internet dick-waving in general. I can't even parody the levels some people here attain, but god, I try. But like I said, it's not a BBTF problem specifically--it's just one I hope it would eclipse.
5. Minor complaint--I read a lot of BBTF on my iPhone. The extra wide posts--occasionally on the main newsblog and ALWAYS on Gonfalon Cubs or Sox Therapy--are impossible to read without super-zoom in and side scrolling.
6. I haven't been given my Marlins blog yet.

That being said, there's still a ton of good here and it's by far my favorite timewaster/harnesser. I almost never RTFA, but that's because I'm mostly interested in the twists and turns of the discussion boards.

And Mike Crudale.
   38. Sweet Posted: March 01, 2011 at 04:16 PM (#3760243)
Here since 2002, though mostly lurking for the past five years or so. Funny, I had no idea today was the the big one-oh, but I did wake up this morning wondering whether I should have gone to sleep earlier last night instead of surfing Primer. Nah.
   39. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: March 01, 2011 at 04:16 PM (#3760244)
5. Minor complaint--I read a lot of BBTF on my iPhone. The extra wide posts--occasionally on the main newsblog and ALWAYS on Gonfalon Cubs or Sox Therapy--are impossible to read without super-zoom in and side scrolling.
Just to follow up on this very minor thing - there was one post on ST this winter where I used a wide image that would have killed any small screen. With that one exception, though, all that gets posted is text. It shouldn't be extra-wide compared to the main page post.

I read some on my phone, and I haven't found any significant difference b/w the blogs and the main page. It would be nice, generally, if all the pages had some auto-wrap function so that they'd fit whatever screen I'm reading on, but I don't think that's peculiar to the blogs.)
   40. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: March 01, 2011 at 04:18 PM (#3760247)
My two favorite threads.

I remember after the Red Sox eliminated the A's in the playoffs in the "Derek Lowe gesture" series, the game thread devolved into a hilarious Simpsons thread. I remember my contribution was "they weren't saying boo, they were saying Eric Boo-yrnes, Boo-yrnes!"

The Old School Baseball Primer thread was epic.
   41. Jim (jimmuscomp) Posted: March 01, 2011 at 04:22 PM (#3760254)
Congrats everyone. I signed up in 2004, but lurked for a good year before that.

I don't remember when or how I found Primer, but I remember following the Game Chatter threads for the 2002 playoffs since I was living and working out of Irvine, CA, that summer. Apparently the Angels won't win the Series again until I return.


2002 was my last year of grad school in Irvine, and I agree, the Halos are hosed until I get a gig at UCI.
   42. Jack Keefe Posted: March 01, 2011 at 04:25 PM (#3760260)
Well Al now they are saying it is 10 years they have had Primer but I have only been here for six since just before we won the World Serious certainly you cannot forget Ought Five Al. Any way it has been slow in coming but I think Primer should be renamed the Jack Keefe Show and that will bring in the Eye Balls Al. We will have a band play be fore every Thread and then AJ Pierogi will josh with the posters and then he will say in a big Corny voice Heeeeeeeres Jackie! and I will come on and crack Wise. What do you say it is long Over Doo.
   43. Jarrod HypnerotomachiaPoliphili(Teddy F. Ballgame) Posted: March 01, 2011 at 04:29 PM (#3760266)
Jeez, I've been here since almost the beginning then. I tuned in some time during the early summer of 2001 and thought I was wandering into a more well-established place. Back then it was a ramshackle, fly-by-night operation; still looks the same, but now it's got character.

Happy birthday, BTF.
   44. SoSH U at work Posted: March 01, 2011 at 04:30 PM (#3760267)
How many times have I laughed aloud at something I read on BTF? Then had to try and explain it to a girlfriend or wife?


For Mrs. killah's sake, I hope this isn't an alternating occurrence.
   45. Shooty Is Disappointed With His Midstream Urine Posted: March 01, 2011 at 04:36 PM (#3760273)
My worst day on BBTF was when my girl snuck up behind me while I was typing and figured out my screen name. She can win any argument now by calling me Shooty in that tone of dismissiveness only women and German scientists are capable of.
   46. Swedish Chef Posted: March 01, 2011 at 04:44 PM (#3760293)
Just to follow up on this very minor thing - there was one post on ST this winter where I used a wide image that would have killed any small screen. With that one exception, though, all that gets posted is text. It shouldn't be extra-wide compared to the main page post.

It is probably nicely formatted statlines. Those kind of elements will not be reflowed by the browser, but shown at the original width, they look fine on a computer as they're not wide, but on a narrow screen they will mess up the layout.
   47. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: March 01, 2011 at 04:47 PM (#3760299)

My worst day on BBTF was when my girl snuck up behind me while I was typing and figured out my screen name. She can win any argument now by calling me Shooty in that tone of dismissiveness only women and German scientists are capable of.


I remember when I had to explain to my girlfriend that I was going to an Orioles game to meet up with some guys I met on the internet. It took her awhile to wrap her head around that.
   48. Swedish Chef Posted: March 01, 2011 at 04:50 PM (#3760306)
3. The site lost a large amount of it's chaotic fun and flair with registration. Probably posters too; I know, just from my experience, that I rarely go through the trouble of registering to join a site I've no experience with.

It lost the fun and flair quite a bit earlier. The last few months prior to registration there was just stupid chaos left.
   49. Don Geovany Soto (chris h.) Posted: March 01, 2011 at 04:54 PM (#3760315)
Been here for...well, I don't know; I lurked for a long time before I registered and started posting, at which point my productivity at work went into a corner and shot itself.

I love this place soooo much.
   50. Dan Szymborski Posted: March 01, 2011 at 05:02 PM (#3760323)
Without registration in 2004, we don't get to our 4th anniversary.
   51. Guapo Posted: March 01, 2011 at 05:06 PM (#3760334)
I remember when I had to explain to my girlfriend that I was going to an Orioles game to meet up with some guys I met on the internet. It took her awhile to wrap her head around that.


Yeah, what sort of weirdo goes to an Orioles game?
   52. Bourbon Samurai Posted: March 01, 2011 at 05:09 PM (#3760341)
Thanks for enduring my various failed attempts to start new BTF memes.

Oh, and ruining my productivity. That too.
   53. villageidiom Posted: March 01, 2011 at 05:13 PM (#3760348)
My worst day on BBTF was when my girl snuck up behind me while I was typing and figured out my screen name. She can win any argument now by calling me Shooty in that tone of dismissiveness only women and German scientists are capable of.
mrsidiom knows my screen name. She knows I refer to her as mrsidiom here. Heck, she attended a Primer meetup and was introduced as mrsidiom.
   54. David Nieporent (now, with children) Posted: March 01, 2011 at 05:15 PM (#3760352)
I've been here since the beginning, and I'm pretty positive there's not another website from 2001 that I still follow. Heck I've changed emails from earthlink to msn to yahoo and now to gmail in that time. BBTF is the only thing on the intertubes I've been faithful to.
Well, that and porn.
   55. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: March 01, 2011 at 05:15 PM (#3760353)
It lost the fun and flair quite a bit earlier. The last few months prior to registration there was just stupid chaos left.
Totally agree with this.

And even then, the vast majority of the "flair" was anonymized name-calling and gay jokes. Registration saved the site, just as Dan says.
   56. Shooty Is Disappointed With His Midstream Urine Posted: March 01, 2011 at 05:16 PM (#3760355)
mrsidiom knows my screen name. She knows I refer to her as mrsidiom here. Heck, she attended a Primer meetup and was introduced as mrsidiom.

it is weird when you meet primates in the real world and they call you by your screen name. It makes me feel like one of the Little Rascals.
   57. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: March 01, 2011 at 05:19 PM (#3760360)
it is weird when you meet primates in the real world and they call you by your screen name. It makes me feel like one of the Little Rascals.
Boy, does Shooty hate it when you call him "Shooty" in person. And yet he sticks with the name. I admire that.

Of course, Primates are the only people who refer to me by my initials, so it's one of those "Catfish" Hunter tests, for how I know people.
   58. SoSH U at work Posted: March 01, 2011 at 05:20 PM (#3760361)
it is weird when you meet primates in the real world and they call you by your screen name. It makes me feel like one of the Little Rascals.


All hail the Near-Man Woman Repeller's Club.
   59. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: March 01, 2011 at 05:30 PM (#3760371)
Congrats and thanks, guys. I was a rec.sport.baseball guy and found this site pretty early on. What a wonderful blend of baseball, thinking about baseball, talking about baseball, baseball history. And all kinds of wonderful and not so wonderful divergence -- but it's worth every minute sorting the wheat threads from the chaff threads.

One complaint: I still can't understand the hubbub for Pavement. I've tried to listen, they're cromulent, but they don't grab me at all.
   60. Andrew Edwards Posted: March 01, 2011 at 05:34 PM (#3760374)
Congrats and Mike Crudale to all!

Been a great time and a great service provided by you lot.

To 10 more.
   61. Pingu Posted: March 01, 2011 at 05:43 PM (#3760384)
My worst day on BBTF was when my girl snuck up behind me while I was typing and figured out my screen name. She can win any argument now by calling me Shooty in that tone of dismissiveness only women and German scientists are capable of.


Thats why you should post under your real name like the rest of us.
   62. Tom Nawrocki Posted: March 01, 2011 at 05:45 PM (#3760388)
it is weird when you meet primates in the real world and they call you by your screen name.


Yeah, I would hate that.
   63. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: March 01, 2011 at 05:45 PM (#3760389)
But what does this site have to do with Frank Tanana?
   64. Home Run Teal & Black Black Black Gone! Posted: March 01, 2011 at 05:48 PM (#3760394)
My real name is Tealy McBlackington. Sorry, nit-pickers.
   65. SoSH U at work Posted: March 01, 2011 at 05:50 PM (#3760399)
Yeah, I would hate that.


Would it be all right if I called you Mr. Day instead?

(Just guessing).
   66. dlf Posted: March 01, 2011 at 05:52 PM (#3760401)
I wandered over here from the old Baseball Boards website and was directed from the bulletin board stuff that B-R had up a decade ago. I don't often comment, but I read almost daily and in the last week have been logged on from three continents. It's been great.
   67. Infinite Joost (Voxter) Posted: March 01, 2011 at 05:59 PM (#3760408)
   68. 'zop sympathizes with the wrong ####### people Posted: March 01, 2011 at 06:00 PM (#3760411)
10 Years, and I've been here for all of them. Holy crap.
   69. The Piehole of David Wells Posted: March 01, 2011 at 06:10 PM (#3760423)
Happy B-day. I love this place. I've been following since I don't know when. I know Bill Simmons from Boston Sports Guy days on Digital Cities was my introduction. All I know is, I haven't always been Piehole. Back on Primer, I posted as "Turd in the Punchbowl" or "Punch in the Turdbowl." I really miss the days when you could just post as anyone.
   70. GotowarMissAgnes Posted: March 01, 2011 at 06:12 PM (#3760425)
Congrats! Still the first baseball site I check each day, and I hope to see a thread on a future World Champion Oriole team before the next decade is up...or at least before Dan and I die.
   71. Pat Rapper's Delight Posted: March 01, 2011 at 06:13 PM (#3760426)
How early into Primer's history was the original cease-and-desist letter from Prospectus?
   72. Los Angeles El Hombre de Anaheim Posted: March 01, 2011 at 06:22 PM (#3760439)
I've only been here for 8 years, so I don't know what the big deal is.
   73. The District Attorney Posted: March 01, 2011 at 06:30 PM (#3760452)
It's Bieber's birthday. That's the real thing worth celebrating.
   74. Jolly Old St. Nick Is A Jolly Old St. Crip Posted: March 01, 2011 at 06:32 PM (#3760456)
Congrats to the whole crew. And I agree with Dan about the necessity for registration, even though it makes playing around with your screen name a lot more of a hassle.
   75. Kurt Posted: March 01, 2011 at 06:32 PM (#3760457)
And even then, the vast majority of the "flair" was anonymized name-calling and gay jokes. Registration saved the site, just as Dan says.

Agreed.

Say, whatever happened to Gary Santerre?
   76. Shooty Is Disappointed With His Midstream Urine Posted: March 01, 2011 at 06:33 PM (#3760460)
It's Bieber's birthday. That's the real thing worth celebrating.

Should we be sacrificing virgins in his honor? I mean, just to tie this back to Primer...
   77. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: March 01, 2011 at 06:38 PM (#3760467)
I'm so sick of guys like Albert Belle, Chris Truby and Justin Bieber having birthday virgins sacrificed in their honor.r
   78. CrosbyBird Posted: March 01, 2011 at 07:04 PM (#3760512)
I don't know when I first got here. I know I posted for some time prior to registration. I think I used to use my real name.

Was there a period where you could still post without registration but could register? I have a May 2004 "join date" but I can't imagine that I didn't use this site at all from March to May.

I definitely miss the ability to drop a one-liner under a celebrity's name. Not so much because I did it so often, but because I often got some pretty gut-busting laughs from other people who did it. As with most public places, it only takes a small number of jerkasses to ruin it for everyone.
   79. phredbird Posted: March 01, 2011 at 07:09 PM (#3760518)
78 posts in, and i only count about 8 or 9 folks who have contributed to this site. sorry to spoil the party, but if we want jim and the others to keep it up, we should maybe try to do a little better ... ?
   80. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: March 01, 2011 at 07:13 PM (#3760522)
Behold!
   81. 'zop sympathizes with the wrong ####### people Posted: March 01, 2011 at 07:19 PM (#3760529)
Behold!

More like, "Be old!"
   82. villageidiom Posted: March 01, 2011 at 07:38 PM (#3760554)
it is weird when you meet primates in the real world and they call you by your screen name. It makes me feel like one of the Little Rascals.
I actually introduced us by our real names, but nobody could guess who we were. (Cue Darren to come in and say that he didn't think it was me because he thought mrsidiom wasn't real.)

How early into Primer's history was the original cease-and-desist letter from Prospectus?
Less than a month. Behold!
   83. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: March 01, 2011 at 07:50 PM (#3760570)
I showed up in late '01. Think my first comment was on the TO thread for the Schmidt trade to the Giants.

Thankfully, I've learned some stuff since then.
   84. BDC Posted: March 01, 2011 at 07:55 PM (#3760577)
I actually think BBTF makes me more productive. Call it rationalization, but I spend a lot of time writing and arguing here, and that's sort of my job, kind of. Think of it as batting practice for the rhetorical life :)

I have been here maybe 8 of the 10 years, since I found out somewhat obliquely that Tangotiger had posted one of my long-ago Sportsjones columns here, and lurked to read what people were saying. I can honestly say that I never posted as the Admiral or as Mike Piazza :)

My favorite thread was one pre-registration where the whole site crashed and only one thread stayed open, and if you weren't already here you couldn't get back in – but a lot of people were logged in, and John Brattain was there, naturally, and the whole thing was funnier than the outer regions of Hell. Impossible to describe exactly ...

Oh, that and "The Death of Derek Jeter".
   85. Baldrick Posted: March 01, 2011 at 08:10 PM (#3760596)
78 posts in, and i only count about 8 or 9 folks who have contributed to this site. sorry to spoil the party, but if we want jim and the others to keep it up, we should maybe try to do a little better ... ?

Suitably shamed. Though I couldn't figure out how to tell them 'here's some money from Baldrick.' Oh well.
   86. Bourbon Samurai Posted: March 01, 2011 at 08:20 PM (#3760606)
78 posts in, and i only count about 8 or 9 folks who have contributed to this site. sorry to spoil the party, but if we want jim and the others to keep it up, we should maybe try to do a little better ... ?


At first I thought you meant only 8 or 9 folks whose posts were not just snark and political nonsense, and I thought, "Sounds a LITTLE low." but now I take your point.

There's a little birthday present from the bourbon samurai on its way from paypal.
   87. The Piehole of David Wells Posted: March 01, 2011 at 08:20 PM (#3760609)
Suitably shamed. Though I couldn't figure out how to tell them 'here's some money from Baldrick.' Oh well.


Me too. Rectified now though.
   88. Andere Richtingen Posted: March 01, 2011 at 08:37 PM (#3760629)
I actually think BBTF makes me more productive. Call it rationalization, but I spend a lot of time writing and arguing here, and that's sort of my job, kind of. Think of it as batting practice for the rhetorical life

I sincerely believe that rsb and Primer have made me a better scientist.

Yes, that can be interpreted in many different ways.
   89. Der Komminsk-sar Posted: March 01, 2011 at 08:38 PM (#3760633)
Less than a month.
Really? Huh, I was here then... I don't think I ever picked up on how new the site apparently was.
   90. Gamingboy Posted: March 01, 2011 at 08:40 PM (#3760634)
My favorite moment remains the great 2008 All Star Game chatter.
   91. Infinite Joost (Voxter) Posted: March 01, 2011 at 08:47 PM (#3760645)
I figure that all I contribute, discussion-wise, are bad jokes and over-the-top put-downs, so I should probably toss a couple coins in the coffer.

I miss being able to post as certain writers, while attempting to ape their style. But the actual baseball-to-bullshit ratio got pretty low before registration, and the balance is much better now. I laugh a lot, sometimes out loud, at posts I read here. It can be a little embarrassing, depending on where I am.
   92. Jarrod HypnerotomachiaPoliphili(Teddy F. Ballgame) Posted: March 01, 2011 at 08:51 PM (#3760648)
Wait a minute--that cease and desist letter was sent in the first month of Primer's existence? I remember that. Like Der Komminsk-sar, I thought the site had been around a good while before that. I think I learned about it from Neyer; did he mention Primer on launch day or something?
   93. Monty Posted: March 01, 2011 at 09:05 PM (#3760669)
Wait a minute--that cease and desist letter was sent in the first month of Primer's existence? I remember that. Like Der Komminsk-sar, I thought the site had been around a good while before that. I think I learned about it from Neyer; did he mention Primer on launch day or something?


Yeah, all that goes for me, too. I definitely remember when the Prospectus letter happened.
   94. Home Run Teal & Black Black Black Gone! Posted: March 01, 2011 at 09:08 PM (#3760671)
Wait a minute--that cease and desist letter was sent in the first month of Primer's existence?


I remember a cease and desist letter--but I was not around that early. Was there a later, more serious--as in, actually lawyered up--letter? Because I remember letter arrives--everyone at Primer gets a good laugh--site switches to baseballthinkfactory.

Baseballprimer.com was definitely the operative site through, say, 2004, right?

God, I loathe prospectus over that. So, so little.
   95. phredbird Posted: March 01, 2011 at 09:13 PM (#3760679)
Though I couldn't figure out how to tell them 'here's some money from Baldrick.' Oh well.


jim and staff know when you contribute. that's how you get that little green badge next to your handle. is that what you meant? the support link is inside the 'stuff' menu at the top of the home page.
   96. Eric L Posted: March 01, 2011 at 09:13 PM (#3760680)
Point taken Phred, will do the same...

9.5 years of mostly lurking...
   97. TVerik, the gum-snappin' hairdresser Posted: March 01, 2011 at 09:18 PM (#3760683)
My favorite thread was the "Nomar dives into Boston Harbor" one. I laughed for like two days.
   98. Barnaby Jones Posted: March 01, 2011 at 09:18 PM (#3760684)
From Transaction Oracle 3/1/01:

I’ve always been a fan of Jim Bowden

[...]

New York Yankees

- Signed LHP Sid Fernandez to a minor-league contract..


It's pretty impressive what 10 years can do to Jim Bowden's reputation.

Also, I am flabbergasted that BBTF and Sid Fernandez, active professional player, existed at the same time.
   99. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: March 01, 2011 at 09:21 PM (#3760690)
Baseballprimer.com was definitely the operative site through, say, 2004, right?

To quote the lesser cartoon Billy (and Dolly and Jeffy): That's my remembery.
   100. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: March 01, 2011 at 09:21 PM (#3760691)
Oh, that and "The Death of Derek Jeter".

yes, and also the Nomar saves 2 women from drowning thread

EDIT: coke to TVerik
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