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Saturday, January 12, 2013

A story about Dustin Pedroia and the effort to change the Red Sox culture

More Epstein…less Eckstein. (sigh)

Red Sox players, staff members and officials marvel at Dustin Pedroia‘s energy, describing him as a force of nature unlike any other and one of the great leaders in the game. But what does that mean?

On Friday night, at the annual Hot Stove Cool Music baseball roundtable (raising money for the Foundation To Be Named Later), the conversation centered around the importance and challenge of changing a clubhouse culture. Red Sox assistant GM Mike Hazen offered an anecdote about Pedroia that illuminated his leadership and the values the team hopes to embody going forward. He referenced the final roadtrip of the season, at a time when the distance between the Sox and the Orioles exceeded that between the sun and Neptune.

Here was Hazen’s story:

“I had the pleasure of being in Baltimore at the end of the season, that last road trip. We’re standing in the dugout, talking, Adam Jones is going to run up during batting practice to field his position. Pedroia just starts screaming at him.

“‘Don’t hit the ball my way tonight. I’m telling you right now, you better plan on pulling that thing because if you hit it my way, you’re out. You are out.’

“Adam Jones is running out to his position, looking around, like, ‘What? That guy’s crazy. What’s wrong with him?’ He didn’t respond.

“I looked at him and said, ‘Hey Pedey – we’ve lost 89 games and these guys are about to go to the playoffs.’ Then he turned on me and started screaming at me. ‘I don’t care how many games we’ve lost! I don’t care – that guy’s out!’

“After that, I said, ‘All right. All right.’ I walked away.

Repoz Posted: January 12, 2013 at 07:43 AM | 23 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Non-Youkilidian Geometry Posted: January 12, 2013 at 10:03 AM (#4345535)
I love Pedroia, but I think a team of 25 Pedroias would be completely insufferable.
   2. McCoy Posted: January 12, 2013 at 10:07 AM (#4345536)
Sounds like his greenies kicked in right about then.
   3. Greg K Posted: January 12, 2013 at 10:08 AM (#4345537)
(raising money for the Foundation To Be Named Later)

Keep fighting, little guy! Soon, we'll rid the world of T.B.A.!
   4. Avoid running at all times.-S. Paige Posted: January 12, 2013 at 11:11 AM (#4345551)
This does not strike me as a memorable story.
   5. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: January 12, 2013 at 11:34 AM (#4345557)
I love Pedroia, but I think a team of 25 Pedroias would be completely insufferable.


I think a team of 25 anyones would be insufferable. Variety is the spice of life. Some Pedroias, some Lesters, mix it up a bit. Just no ####### Valentines please.
   6. Rafael Bellylard: Built like a Panda. Posted: January 12, 2013 at 11:36 AM (#4345558)
Interestingly, the game in which Baltimore had exactly 89 wins and played Boston at home would have been September 28. Jones went 0-4, grounding out to Pedroia in the 1st inning.

The Orioles did win the game, 9-1, and swept the Red Sox in the three game series.
   7. Boxkutter Posted: January 12, 2013 at 11:52 AM (#4345564)
Did he actually call him "Pedey" or did he call him "P.E.D."? Cause this sounded a little roid ragey.
   8. cercopithecus aethiops Posted: January 12, 2013 at 12:23 PM (#4345579)
Right, 'cause yelling at the opposing CFer while he's shagging flies is definitely how you win games.

Just my two cents: When a new manager is having a stupid pissing match with one of your teammates, a leader walks into that manager's office and has a quiet, off-the-record, adult conversation about how this might not be the best way to handle the situation based on past experience with what this clubhouse does and does not respond to positively. A guy who goes and ##### to the press about it instead is something other than a leader.
   9. Infinite Joost (Voxter) Posted: January 12, 2013 at 12:30 PM (#4345585)
He sounds like the guys I used to hate playing with.
   10. Mayor Blomberg Posted: January 12, 2013 at 12:35 PM (#4345588)
“That’s what he stood for. That’s sincerity. That’s authenticity."


That's somebody who needs to reread Trilling.
   11. DA Baracus Posted: January 12, 2013 at 12:39 PM (#4345590)
If that's leadership then yes, the Red Sox need a culture change.
   12. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: January 12, 2013 at 12:40 PM (#4345591)
I think the whole think is bizarre. Is it supposed to be intimidating?

I mean, he's threatening him with fielding a ground ball. Is that frightening?
   13. Jack Carter, calling Beleaguered Castle Posted: January 12, 2013 at 01:02 PM (#4345601)
He sounds like the guys I used to hate playing with.


You said it.
   14. Poster Nutbag Posted: January 12, 2013 at 01:48 PM (#4345628)
This......is NOT an Onion article?

I mean, I get passion and all that, but that's just strange
   15. michaelplank has knowledgeable eyes Posted: January 12, 2013 at 01:51 PM (#4345630)
“Adam Jones is running out to his position, looking around, like, ‘What? That guy’s crazy. What’s wrong with him?’ He didn’t respond.


...because he was busy thinking, "There goes my plan to lead my team into the playoffs by hitting ground balls to the secondbaseman" ...?

Jones comes off well here. Pedroia just looks like a jackass.
   16. Anonymous Observer Posted: January 12, 2013 at 01:58 PM (#4345638)
Pedroia. In Swahili, it means "douche".
   17. KJOK Posted: January 12, 2013 at 02:00 PM (#4345640)
So the point is that the culture was to act like a 12 year old little leaguer, and that didn't work in 2012, so the culture needs to change to something better?

   18. Fred Lynn Nolan Ryan Sweeney Agonistes Posted: January 12, 2013 at 02:10 PM (#4345643)
Adam Jones is going to run up during batting practice to field his position. Pedroia just starts screaming at him.

“‘Don’t hit the ball my way tonight. I’m telling you right now, you better plan on pulling that thing because if you hit it my way, you’re out. You are out.’

“Adam Jones is running out to his position, looking around, like, ‘What? That guy’s crazy. What’s wrong with him?’ He didn’t respond.

“I looked at him and said, ‘Hey Pedey – we’ve lost 89 games and these guys are about to go to the playoffs.’ Then he turned on me and started screaming at me. ‘I don’t care how many games we’ve lost! I don’t care – that guy’s out!’

I have totally done stuff like this before games, but (A) I was kidding, and (2) everybody knew I was kidding.

[same with yelling "THAT'S RIGHT - I OWN YOU!" after catching the line drive a friend on the other team crushed right at me]
   19. The District Attorney Posted: January 12, 2013 at 02:36 PM (#4345651)
(raising money for the Foundation To Be Named Later)
And for the Human Fund. Money, for people.
   20. base ball chick Posted: January 12, 2013 at 02:46 PM (#4345656)
cercopithecus aethiops Posted: January 12, 2013 at 12:23 PM (#4345579)
Right, 'cause yelling at the opposing CFer while he's shagging flies is definitely how you win games.

Just my two cents: When a new manager is having a stupid pissing match with one of your teammates, a leader walks into that manager's office and has a quiet, off-the-record, adult conversation about how this might not be the best way to handle the situation based on past experience with what this clubhouse does and does not respond to positively. A guy who goes and ##### to the press about it instead is something other than a leader.

- for all we know, maybe pedroia DID go see bobby privately - maybe so did some other guy/s and got nowheres except a battle in the media

i know that when cooper was manager (jeezus what a disaster) a few of the team leaders tried talking provately to him and to fast eddie and got like noweres. of course i houston, there is no such thing as fighting a battle in the media seeing as how the media is the team shill
   21. Dale Sams Posted: January 12, 2013 at 03:14 PM (#4345670)
those that are coming in, they heard the story.


"So you're saying Dustin plays baseball like a guy in a PS3 frathouse tourney? Gotcha."
   22. The Yankee Clapper Posted: January 12, 2013 at 05:19 PM (#4345716)
Red Sox assistant GM Mike Hazen offered an anecdote about Pedroia that illuminated his leadership and the values the team hopes to embody going forward.

Just going by his selection of inspiring anecdotes, maybe this guy isn't pulling his weight either.
   23. boteman is not here 'til October Posted: January 13, 2013 at 11:39 AM (#4346096)
And for the Human Fund. Money, for people.

I don't play golf, for money. Against people.

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