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Wednesday, June 10, 2009

Accusations bring A-Rod, Mark Teixeira to tipping point

Red Baron Gladwell anyone?

Hours before they were to do battle with the Red Sox Tuesday night, Mark Teixeira and Alex Rodriguez were involved in different type of confrontation, this one inside the Yankees’ clubhouse.

Upset with an accusation made by ESPN’s Rick Sutcliffe two weeks ago, the two players approached the former Cy Young winner to discuss the situation.

Sutcliffe said on the air that A-Rod had been feeding Teixeira verbal signs from the on-deck circle, giving his teammate a heads-up on the catcher’s location before the pitch was delivered. Teixeira and A-Rod pulled Sutcliffe aside when they saw him in the clubhouse last night, expressing their displeasure with his charges.

“Me, Alex and him talked about it,” Teixeira told the Daily News, confirming that the conversation took place. “No doubt it’s disappointing when someone makes an accusation like that. Whatever. I can’t control what they say.”

Teixeira said he has known Sutcliffe “for years,” adding that he’s always considered him to be “a great guy and a great pitcher.” Teixeira wouldn’t comment any further on the tone of the conversation, although he and Rodriguez were clearly upset with Sutcliffe’s words and let the former All-Star know it. Sutcliffe will be part of ESPN’s broadcast team for tonight’s game.

“You can ask him about it,” Teixeira said.

Repoz Posted: June 10, 2009 at 09:12 PM | 45 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Dewey, Soupuss Not Doomed to Succeed Posted: June 10, 2009 at 09:21 PM (#3213411)
George Clooney was not available for comment.
   2. Fly should without a doubt be number !!!!! Posted: June 10, 2009 at 09:27 PM (#3213423)
As a Red Sox fan, is Sutcliffe suggesting that there's something WRONG with what they were allegedly doing? Seems like a good idea, to me.
   3. Hang down your head, Tom Foley Posted: June 10, 2009 at 09:28 PM (#3213424)
A-Rod had been feeding Teixeira verbal signs from the on-deck circle, giving his teammate a heads-up on the catcher’s location before the pitch was delivered.

"He's behind the plate, crouching again, Mark."
   4. aleskel Posted: June 10, 2009 at 09:32 PM (#3213429)
I dunno, this sounds like one of those "between-the-lines", acceptable types of cheating, like stealing signs from second base.
   5. bunyon Posted: June 10, 2009 at 09:32 PM (#3213430)
"He's behind the plate, crouching again, Mark."


"And I can't really tell from here, but he seems to keep looking at you and diddling himself."
   6. Tripon Posted: June 10, 2009 at 09:32 PM (#3213432)

As a Red Sox fan, is Sutcliffe suggesting that there's something WRONG with what they were allegedly doing? Seems like a good idea, to me.


It sounds a lot like the tip pitching accusation, which is one thing that A-Rod wants to avoid.
   7. tfbg9 Posted: June 10, 2009 at 09:33 PM (#3213434)
They're guilty. Rick's word is more than enough for me.
   8. SoSHially Unacceptable Posted: June 10, 2009 at 09:35 PM (#3213436)
It sounds a lot like the tip pitching accusation, which is one thing that A-Rod wants to avoid.


I think both are concerned about a Christensenesque pitch to the earhole.
   9. Hang down your head, Tom Foley Posted: June 10, 2009 at 09:35 PM (#3213437)
Sutcliffe merely misinterpreted Rodriguez's yelling "Get a secondary lead."
   10. Fly should without a doubt be number !!!!! Posted: June 10, 2009 at 09:35 PM (#3213438)

It sounds a lot like the tip pitching accusation, which is one thing that A-Rod wants to avoid.


Tipping to an opponent is not nearly the same thing as tipping to a teammate.
   11. ?Donde esta Dagoberto Campaneris? Posted: June 10, 2009 at 09:36 PM (#3213440)
I dunno, this sounds like one of those "between-the-lines", acceptable types of cheating, like stealing signs from second base.

Those types of cheating, like this alleged effort, are likely to earn you a pitch in the ribs if you get caught. I'm guessing that's why they didn't appreciate the accusation.

EDIT- Coke's here!
   12. Tripon Posted: June 10, 2009 at 09:37 PM (#3213442)

Tipping to an opponent is not nearly the same thing as tipping to a teammate.


You think anyone on air would note that difference? They'll just say that A-Rod is up to his old tricks again.
   13. Spivey Posted: June 10, 2009 at 09:37 PM (#3213445)
I remember the game. This was against Holland. ARod Teixeira absolutely turned on an inside fastball. I do remember someone whistled really loudly just before the pitch as Salty was set up inside. Sutcliffe kind of just assumed it was ARod I think, but I never saw a replay of ARod in the box that confirmed it was ARod. If it was him who whistled really loudly there, I'd have to think that it was tipping the pitch as I can't imagine another reason he would be whistling at that point in time.
   14. Spivey Posted: June 10, 2009 at 09:39 PM (#3213448)
Although I also don't have a big problem with tipping to help your team - though I'd still prefer it not be done.
   15. Lassus Posted: June 10, 2009 at 09:48 PM (#3213471)
Even though I'm a pacifist, having A-Rod punch Sutcliffe in the face hard enough for the latter to have his jaw wired shut for 4 months would have been awesome.
   16. The Original SJ Posted: June 10, 2009 at 09:50 PM (#3213475)
ARod Teixeira absolutely turned on an inside fastball. I do remember someone whistled really loudly just before the pitch as Salty was set up inside.

a loud whistle wasn't audible on the ESPN broadcast, but there was a lot of background noise.

Sutcliffe just sort of made the accusation, and admitted he didn't even really hear a whistle. He also said there could be code words used "Go Get Him" for inside, or something like that....
   17. cardsfanboy Posted: June 10, 2009 at 09:53 PM (#3213479)
As a Red Sox fan, is Sutcliffe suggesting that there's something WRONG with what they were allegedly doing? Seems like a good idea, to me

agreed, what is wrong with this?
   18. Bunny Vincennes Posted: June 10, 2009 at 09:54 PM (#3213484)
I have on a number of occassions seen ARod take a peak back at the catch once he's set up. I'm surprised he hasn't got one in the ear by now.
   19. SoSHially Unacceptable Posted: June 10, 2009 at 09:58 PM (#3213493)
I have on a number of occassions seen ARod take a peak back at the catch once he's set up. I'm surprised he hasn't got one in the ear by now.


What's interesting is that Bunny's remark, plus the Teix-Arod thing, the slap and the "I Got it" would suggest to me that Arod would be the LAST guy who would ever tip off pitches to the opponents. These are the kinds of actions of a guy who would do anything to win.
   20. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: June 10, 2009 at 09:58 PM (#3213495)
"I do remember someone whistled really loudly just before the pitch as Salty was set up inside."

Scoreboard's Animated Train Graphic Accused of Tipping Pitches.
   21. You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR) Posted: June 10, 2009 at 10:16 PM (#3213515)
agreed, what is wrong with this?


Alex Rodriguez is doing it.
   22. NotLikely20 Posted: June 10, 2009 at 10:19 PM (#3213522)
Stop whining Alex...Sutcliffe has no reason to BS about another one of your dirty tricks.
   23. Obama Bomaye Posted: June 10, 2009 at 10:24 PM (#3213531)
Yeah Alex, stop helping your teammates! That's what everyone hates about you. Why can't you just be a selfish player like the ones we all love?
   24. KronicFatigue Posted: June 10, 2009 at 10:27 PM (#3213537)
Alex Rodriguez is doing it.


You joke, but I imagine a lot of players do this, and it's understood to be apart of the game, but it becomes a story b/c Arod does it.
   25. James Darnell's #1 Fan Posted: June 10, 2009 at 10:34 PM (#3213547)
I've played pro ball and all the teams I've been in do it, we even have meetings before the game and come up with the code words.

But it is like one of those "baseball only rules" or something where everybody knows but nobody talks about.
   26. Rich Rifkin Posted: June 10, 2009 at 10:37 PM (#3213550)
Stop whining Alex...Sutcliffe has no reason to BS about another one of your dirty tricks.
I'm ready for Sutcliffe's explanation. "Sorry, Alex; Sorry, Tex. I was just drunk again in the booth. I promise I won't get drunk next time I broadcast a Yankee game."
   27. Joey B.: posting for the kids of northeast Ohio Posted: June 10, 2009 at 10:45 PM (#3213558)
I've played pro ball

For who?
   28. Dr Love Posted: June 10, 2009 at 10:52 PM (#3213561)
I have on a number of occassions seen ARod take a peak back at the catch once he's set up. I'm surprised he hasn't got one in the ear by now.


Some of the A's guys talked about this in Moneyball, saying that he's so good at it that he doesn't give you an opportunity to get one in on him.
   29. BeanoCook Posted: June 10, 2009 at 10:54 PM (#3213562)
I am starting to admire A-Rods competitiveness. Turns out he would cheat to win in a father son baseball game. So much for conventional wisdom.
   30.   Posted: June 10, 2009 at 11:11 PM (#3213571)
NotLikely20


I agree with this, anyway. Probably like 13, 14 tops.
   31. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: June 10, 2009 at 11:25 PM (#3213595)
The early 80's Brewers were (in)famous for stealing signs and signaling teammates on pitches.
   32. JJ1986 Posted: June 10, 2009 at 11:51 PM (#3213671)
"Sorry, Alex; Sorry, Tex. I was just drunk again in the booth. I promise I won't get drunk next time I broadcast a Yankee game."

Next time after tonight.
   33. Jeff K. Posted: June 11, 2009 at 12:04 AM (#3213714)
Jesus Christ, A-Rod gets called out for more bizarrely random #### than the rest of the league put together. If tomorrow there were a story broken about a modern-day equivalent to what the '51 Giants were doing, my immediate assumption would be that Alex was named as being in the middle of it.
   34. Swoboda is freedom Posted: June 11, 2009 at 12:27 AM (#3213778)
“Me, Alex and him talked about it,” Teixeira told the Daily News, confirming that the conversation took place.

Also confirming that Mark doesn't speak English that well.
   35. Jeff K. Posted: June 11, 2009 at 12:51 AM (#3213860)
He went to Georgia Tech.
   36. Rough Carrigan Posted: June 11, 2009 at 01:00 AM (#3213880)
This kind of thing happens a lot/frequently/I'm not sure how to characterize it.

Varitek seems to me like he'll often give a signal then immediately move to wherever the pitch is intended to be and set up camp for several seconds in advance of the pitch.

I still remember a game in perhaps May in 2004 or 2005 against the Orioles. It was a day game. The Orioles pounded the Red Sox starter and relievers that day. Right after the game someone for NESN interviewed one of the Orioles players who'd had the best day (I forget which guy it was). He asked the Orioles player, in a lighthearted way, how he and his teammates had beat up on the Red Sox so badly. The Orioles player said, "We were just going off of Tek," before realizing his mistake in admitting this and getting a worried look on his face and moving on to some other part of the Crash Davis cliche repertoire.
   37. The George Sherrill Selection Posted: June 11, 2009 at 01:05 AM (#3213886)
I'm tired of baseball players like Alex Rodriguez and Chris Truby tipping pitches, allegedly doing steroids according to anonymous sources who heard it from someone in a bar, and everything.
   38. ValueArb Posted: June 11, 2009 at 01:31 AM (#3213974)
The more I hear stuff like this about A-Rod, the more I love him. Remember the good old days when trying your best, and pushing limits to win was actually admired?

A-Rod is so old school he harkens back to Leo Durocher and Pepper Martin. I think the people who are ruining baseball are the ones trying to turn the stadiums into monasteries.
   39. Obama Bomaye Posted: June 11, 2009 at 01:44 AM (#3214021)
Varitek seems to me like he'll often give a signal then immediately move to wherever the pitch is intended to be and set up camp for several seconds in advance of the pitch.

I still remember a game in perhaps May in 2004 or 2005 against the Orioles. It was a day game. The Orioles pounded the Red Sox starter and relievers that day. Right after the game someone for NESN interviewed one of the Orioles players who'd had the best day (I forget which guy it was). He asked the Orioles player, in a lighthearted way, how he and his teammates had beat up on the Red Sox so badly. The Orioles player said, "We were just going off of Tek,"


That's unpossible. Everyone knows Vagitek is the most geniusest catcher that ever caught.
   40. Srul Itza Posted: June 11, 2009 at 01:47 AM (#3214031)
He went to Georgia Tech.

Our captain has a handicap to cope with, sad to tell.
He's from Georgia, and he doesn't speak the language very well.
   41. Swoboda is freedom Posted: June 11, 2009 at 01:56 AM (#3214057)
The more I hear stuff like this about A-Rod, the more I love him. Remember the good old days when trying your best, and pushing limits to win was actually admired?

I agree. Especially the time he slapped the ball out of the glove. A couple of years before that would have been a head up play. It got turned over, but it was a smart play.
   42. larkin4HoF Posted: June 11, 2009 at 05:24 AM (#3214308)
A-Rod is so old school he harkens back to Leo Durocher and Pepper Martin.


I can't wait till he goes all John McGraw and starts grabbing the runner on third by the belt on a sac fly.
   43. jacksone (AKA It's OK...) Posted: June 11, 2009 at 01:53 PM (#3214450)
That's unpossible. Everyone knows Vagitek is the most geniusest catcher that ever caught.


Just count the no-hitters.
   44. Randy Jones Posted: June 11, 2009 at 02:16 PM (#3214475)
I'm tired of baseball players like Alex Rodriguez and Chris Truby tipping pitches, allegedly doing steroids according to anonymous sources who heard it from someone in a bar, and everything.


I'm sick and tired of commenters like The George Sherrill Selection and Albert Belle screwing up old Primer jokes...



and Mike Crudale.
   45. Jose Canusee Posted: June 11, 2009 at 07:41 PM (#3214834)
Could you imagine football players getting upset at the opposing middle linebacker because he yells to his teammates what the offense is doing and threaten to pound him illegally after the play because of it? Either the catchers and pitchers have to come up with some decoys the way fielders decide who covers 2nd, or they just allow some technology to have the coach text all the players involved on some un-interceptable scrambled channel with the pitch/location

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