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Friday, August 24, 2012

Aceves after Red Sox’ 14-13 loss: ‘We’re playing (expletive), (expletive) baseball’

Wait, what happened to (expletive) Aceves’ (expletive) ability to just know how to (expletive) win?

Not much to say after the Red Sox’ 10-inning, 14-13 loss to the Angels on Thursday night.

But leave it to closer Alfredo Aceves to strike the right chord.

“We’re playing (expletive), (expletive) baseball,” he said.

Indeed, the Red Sox have dropped 15 of their last 21 games, including nine of 11 at Fenway Park. Aceves didn’t help matters tonight, allowing three runs in the ninth inning and one in the 10th. Leading 11-9 in the ninth, he allowed a questionable homer to Vernon Wells and RBI singles to Torii Hunter and Mark Trumbo. Then, after the Red Sox tied the game at 12-12 on Cody Ross’ ninth-inning solo homer, Aceves gave up a leadoff shot to Kendrys Morales in the 10th.

It marked Aceves’ eighth loss and seventh blown save in 58 appearances.

Repoz Posted: August 24, 2012 at 01:24 AM | 34 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: August 24, 2012 at 01:56 AM (#4216476)
This season is just awesomely fun to watch. I actually find myself hoping they will lose every game for the rest of the season, that way at least it will be memorable.

he allowed a questionable homer to Vernon Wells

The ultimate insult. Talk about being kicked when you are down...Vernon effing Wells...just awesome.
   2. Swedish Chef Posted: August 24, 2012 at 02:17 AM (#4216480)
WTF, they're behind the Mariners?
   3. Yastrzemski in left. Posted: August 24, 2012 at 02:24 AM (#4216483)
Punt Beckett. Yesterday.
   4. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: August 24, 2012 at 02:28 AM (#4216484)
It has now reached epically comical proportions. They gave up 20 hits along with 4 unearned runs, lost a 6 run lead, had not one but 2! blown saves and of course Aceves picked up the double insult of the loss and blown save. Just awesome.

   5. Athletic Supporter can feel the slow rot Posted: August 24, 2012 at 02:43 AM (#4216487)
Who cares whether Wells' homer was questionable or not? It made literally zero difference to the outcome of the game then (compared to a double) and it makes zero difference now.
   6. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: August 24, 2012 at 03:24 AM (#4216494)
An agonizing game to watch. Just agony. Better a horrible win than a horrible loss... my buddy texted me afterwards that the Angels should make the bullpen walk to Detroit for the next series. With any lucky, they won't get there in time.
   7. BWV 1129 Posted: August 24, 2012 at 04:21 AM (#4216496)
The Angels played (expletive), (expletive) baseball in that game, too. They just got out-expletived by the Red Sox. The last time they played a game where both teams were so (expletive), (expletive), they lost, so now things are evened up, I guess.
   8. Jim Wisinski Posted: August 24, 2012 at 04:29 AM (#4216497)
There have probably been games where teams have combined to give up more runs overall but I think this has to be the worst pitched game of the year. It's an amazing combination of suck on both sides over the length of the game. They can't even resolve it in regulation and even when one team goes ahead in extras they nearly give it back in the bottom half.
   9. Joe Bivens, Minor Genius Posted: August 24, 2012 at 06:26 AM (#4216506)
14-13 sounds like one part of the game was played well.
   10. Steve Balboni's Personal Trainer Posted: August 24, 2012 at 06:31 AM (#4216508)
As a lifelong Red Sox fan, thank you for posting this story...I had forgotten the Red Sox were still playing this year.

I'd like to thank the Red Sox for putting hundreds of hours back into my summer - seriously, I haven't watched 10 innings of baseball - total - over the last three months.

I can live with my team not being a World Series or playoff contender every year, but:
1) If you're not going to compete for a playoff spot, then at least be doing everything with an eye to the future, and
2) don't be so unlikable in the process that you find your own fan base is rooting against you every night.

This team sucks, and is unwatchable.
   11. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: August 24, 2012 at 07:48 AM (#4216521)
According to BBRef the Sox are just the fourth team since the start of 2000 to lose twice in the same season when they score 12+ runs.

The Sox pitching was awful but the defense really killed them. The 3rd inning comeback started when a pop up dropped between Pedroia and Ross, then they should have gotten out of the inning at 6-3 but Ciriaco booted a grounder. Then with two out in the ninth Ross overran a base hit by Trout allowing him to get into scoring position.

Watching Trout this week was a treat. What a player. I can't fathom how he was able to score on the base hit in the ninth, any other player would have been out by 20 feet. Not only is he blazing fast but he seems to run the bases smartly as well.
   12. Joey B. "disrespects the A" Posted: August 24, 2012 at 07:48 AM (#4216523)
What in the name of Kentucky Fried Chicken is going on with this team?
   13. Rants Mulliniks Posted: August 24, 2012 at 08:31 AM (#4216535)
Why did Aceves go back out for the 10th?

And boohoo for Sox fans, the ####### Jays have lots 6 in a row and 20 of their last 25, and are now 12 games under .500 for the first time since the last day of the 2009 season.
   14. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: August 24, 2012 at 08:39 AM (#4216544)
Why did Aceves go back out for the 10th?


Because Bobby Valentine is dumber than ten Lasordas. On the plus side he admitted his mistake after the game. Basically he said he didn't want to go to either of his LOOGYs (all he had left) against the Angel lineup. Given the way Aceves was pitching that would have been much preferred.
   15. AROM Posted: August 24, 2012 at 08:59 AM (#4216559)
An agonizing game to watch. Just agony. Better a horrible win than a horrible loss... my buddy texted me afterwards that the Angels should make the bullpen walk to Detroit for the next series. With any lucky, they won't get there in time.


Kidding, I know, but the idea of the starting staff forced to pitch 9 scares me much more than the bullpen.

Because Bobby Valentine is dumber than ten Lasordas. On the plus side he admitted his mistake after the game. Basically he said he didn't want to go to either of his LOOGYs (all he had left) against the Angel lineup.


He managed that inning optimally - for the Angels. Kendrys Morales leads off, he's a switch hitter but might as well be a lefty, he's not very good batting right. So leave Aceves in to face him - boom! - good call. Then Aybar, a switch hitter and a true one. Aybar's career splits are as even as can be. Single. Now you've got righties Wells, Iannetta, Trout, Hunter, and if it goes far enough Kendrick and Trumbo. That is the perfect time for a loogy. I do regret that Breslow wanted no part of pitching to Trout on a 3-1 count. He'll have to wait till next year to hit his first homer over the monster.
   16. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: August 24, 2012 at 08:59 AM (#4216560)
Who cares whether Wells' homer was questionable or not? It made literally zero difference to the outcome of the game then (compared to a double) and it makes zero difference now.

Jerry Remy was going on about that HR after the Angels took the lead in the 9th and I could not comprehend why, unless you think if Wells were on second instead of scoring a run the Angels wouldn't have gotten any more hits.

If he wanted to harp on a bad call, Aviles was safe at first on a close play in the 8th but called out. The Red Sox then proceeded to get 4 hits and 2 runs after that.

Of course, even if they had an extra run, I'm pretty sure they would still have found a way to lose.
   17. AROM Posted: August 24, 2012 at 09:08 AM (#4216567)
Trout now at 8.9 WAR. By bb-ref, that's a tie for #113 best single season ever. If/when he gets to 10 WAR, that's a top 50 season. 11 WAR? Only 16 players have done that. Since the great recalculation this spring, Carl Yastrzemski's 1967 is above anything by Bonds and behind only 3 Babe Ruth years for best ever.

I'm not totally convinced of that, the numbers are close enough that another revision would reshuffle the top years. But Yaz 1967 is the gold standard for one player putting a team on his back and carrying them to the pennant.
   18. Smiling Joe Hesketh Posted: August 24, 2012 at 09:37 AM (#4216587)
Because Bobby Valentine is dumber than ten Lasordas. On the plus side he admitted his mistake after the game. Basically he said he didn't want to go to either of his LOOGYs (all he had left) against the Angel lineup. Given the way Aceves was pitching that would have been much preferred.

And Breslow's not really a LOOGY. Yes, he has splits, but he allows approx a 700 OPS to RH and a 600 OPS to LH. That's not a huge split at all.

Valentine ###### up last night's game. He's an awful manager and he should be fired, preferably by tonight's game as I'm going and would like to avoid seeing his stupid face screw up another game in this epic shitshow of a season.
   19. RMc is a fine piece of cheese Posted: August 24, 2012 at 09:42 AM (#4216596)
The curse of Pesky! Burn, baby, burn!
   20. Dan Posted: August 24, 2012 at 10:00 AM (#4216607)
Why did Aceves go back out for the 10th?

And boohoo for Sox fans, the ####### Jays have lots 6 in a row and 20 of their last 25, and are now 12 games under .500 for the first time since the last day of the 2009 season.


The Jays should fire that bum Farrell.

Hopefully in time for him to interview in Boston.
   21. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: August 24, 2012 at 10:03 AM (#4216610)
avoid seeing his stupid face


I am amazed at what a violent reaction I have every time they show him on TV. I've seen bad managers, I've seen players I don't like but Bobby's mere presence on screen pisses me off. I am stunned at just how much I hate him. I mean for cryin' out loud, I like Beckett. It takes a lot for me to actively loathe someone in a Red Sox uniform but Bobby has pulled it off.
   22. rr Posted: August 24, 2012 at 10:10 AM (#4216616)
AL Wild Card Standings:

TB 70-55

Oak 67-57
Det 67-57
Bal 67-57

LAA 65-60

_______________________________


but Bobby's mere presence on screen pisses me off


A guy I know gets this way with some politicians (not national guys, but local guys he has actually dealt with)"Makes me mad just to look at him."
   23. Nasty Nate Posted: August 24, 2012 at 10:27 AM (#4216629)
"Makes me mad just to look at him."


The Dax Shepherd effect
   24. jacksone (AKA It's OK...) Posted: August 24, 2012 at 10:32 AM (#4216635)
The Jays should fire that bum Farrell.

Hopefully in time for him to interview in Boston.


Please, please happen.
   25. RJ in TO Posted: August 24, 2012 at 10:36 AM (#4216636)
The Jays should fire that bum Farrell.

Hopefully in time for him to interview in Boston.


We'd be happy to see him traded to the Red Sox, provided you don't make us throw in too much else.
   26. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: August 24, 2012 at 10:47 AM (#4216647)
We'd be happy to see him traded to the Red Sox, provided you don't make us throw in too much else.


You can throw in that injured utility guy you have. You know, the guy who plays a little right field, a little 3rd base and he's only hitting .244, you don't need him.
   27. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: August 24, 2012 at 12:24 PM (#4216753)
Watching Trout this week was a treat. What a player. I can't fathom how he was able to score on the base hit in the ninth, any other player would have been out by 20 feet.
The way he flew in to second base on that bloop was pretty outstanding. A normal guy wouldn't even have tried.
   28. TerpNats Posted: August 24, 2012 at 12:25 PM (#4216755)
The Bosox are now 0-6 at Fenway vs. phenoms this year (remember the Jon Landau/Springsteen-like "I have seen the future" statements Boston media types were making after Strasburg, Harper and the Nats swept a weekend series up there in June?).
   29. Mattbert Posted: August 24, 2012 at 01:01 PM (#4216811)
I have seen the future. It includes the Red Sox continuing to lose lots of games at Fenway Park.

On the plus side, perhaps an outing at the ballpark will return to being something other than a once or twice a year luxury outing for a normal working stiff like me.
   30. Yastrzemski in left. Posted: August 24, 2012 at 01:14 PM (#4216830)
@17 AROM - Agreed whole heartedly - Posnanski has an awesome piece on that Season which I'm sure you've read, if not - check it out.
   31. Dale Sams Posted: August 24, 2012 at 01:29 PM (#4216854)
On the plus side, perhaps an outing at the ballpark will return to being something other than a once or twice a year luxury outing for a normal working stiff like me.


Stubhub has tickets for $4.
   32. Athletic Supporter can feel the slow rot Posted: August 24, 2012 at 02:18 PM (#4216916)
Watching Trout this week was a treat. What a player. I can't fathom how he was able to score on the base hit in the ninth, any other player would have been out by 20 feet.

The way he flew in to second base on that bloop was pretty outstanding. A normal guy wouldn't even have tried.


Both of these. Unbelievable player.
   33. Comic Strip Person Posted: August 24, 2012 at 02:42 PM (#4216943)
On the Trout hit in the ninth, he did something I don't think I've ever noticed: his last step before his slide was extra long - almost like he was doing the triple jump - and looked so strangely different after watching his normal running up to that point. I was totally mesmerized by it, and kept rewinding it to see it again.

Did anyone else notice this?
   34. John DiFool2 Posted: August 24, 2012 at 03:01 PM (#4216953)
I have seen the future. It includes the Red Sox continuing to lose lots of games at Fenway Park.


Anyone want to toss out any theories to explain this? The Sox have traditionally taken big advantage of Fenway (tho not nearly as much as the mythology suggests)-crap lineup construction? Pitching staff a poor match? Their O/D home road splits don't look too off to me (tho the park overall is pretty extreme in favor of offense this season).

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