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Thursday, September 27, 2012

Adrian Beltre on ex-teammate Eric Gagne’s HGH claims: ‘He should have named names’

French hair twist tutorial to follow.

In a new French-language biography, former Rangers closer Eric Gagne alleged that 80 percent of his Los Angeles teammates used Human Growth Hormone (HGH) while he was with the Dodgers but did not reveal any names.

Said Rangers 3B Adrian Beltre, who was Gagne’s teammate from 1999-2004: “He should have named names. I don’t know what you want me to tell you … For him to say something like that, he should have come out with names instead of a percentage.”

Beltre said he had no plans to read the book. “My French isn’t too good.”

Repoz Posted: September 27, 2012 at 04:46 AM | 20 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: dodgers, rangers, steroids

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   1. Leroy Kincaid Posted: September 27, 2012 at 07:08 AM (#4246928)
Ned Isakov
   2. simon bedford Posted: September 27, 2012 at 08:16 AM (#4246948)
thought he named Loduca?
   3. cercopithecus aethiops Posted: September 27, 2012 at 09:30 AM (#4246993)
Was Gagne's actual claim 80% on hGH, or 80% on PED? My French isn't too good either, and the "reporting" has been all over the place.
   4. Chris Fluit Posted: September 27, 2012 at 10:52 AM (#4247073)
Most reports are that Gagne said he was on HGH and 80% were on something.
   5. Ron J2 Posted: September 27, 2012 at 11:26 AM (#4247120)
I'm looking through rds.ca. The specific line they have is

En effet, le gros "closer" se permet de nous révéler que 80% des joueurs des Dodgers du temps faisait usage d'hormones de croissance comme lui.

IOW specifically HGH use.

Whether that's sloppy wording on their part, can't say. But all of the reporting can be traced back to RDS.

   6. JJ1986 Posted: September 27, 2012 at 11:30 AM (#4247124)
le gros "closer"


That's not nice.
   7. The District Attorney Posted: September 27, 2012 at 12:04 PM (#4247159)
Ned Isakov
Thank you.
   8. PreservedFish Posted: September 27, 2012 at 12:13 PM (#4247170)
Mmmmm ... hormones de croissants.
   9. cercopithecus aethiops Posted: September 27, 2012 at 12:55 PM (#4247212)
OK, thanks. I could actually believe a very high percentage of players using hGH late in Gagne's Dodgers tenure. Steroid testing was just gearing up and hGH was not only undetectable, but touted as being an even better PED.
   10. Robert in Manhattan Beach Posted: September 27, 2012 at 01:08 PM (#4247221)
My favorite part about this story is how French is being treated as some obscure, indecipherable language.

"Sure, he claimed something about something, but who can be sure? It's in French!"
   11. Tom Nawrocki Posted: September 27, 2012 at 01:11 PM (#4247227)
Most reports are that Gagne said he was on HGH and 80% were on something.


That breaks down as 45 percent who were on cloud nine, 25 percent who were on Jim Tracy's case, and 20 percent who were on Mrs. Jose Lima.
   12. David Nieporent (now, with children) Posted: September 27, 2012 at 01:35 PM (#4247258)
Most reports are that Gagne said he was on HGH and 80% were on something.

That breaks down as 45 percent who were on cloud nine, 25 percent who were on Jim Tracy's case, and 20 percent who were on Mrs. Jose Lima.
And the other -10%?
   13. SoSH U at work Posted: September 27, 2012 at 01:42 PM (#4247265)
And the other -10%?


Plaschke and Simers refer to this as the DePo Effect.

   14. Morton's Fork Posted: September 27, 2012 at 03:02 PM (#4247365)
le gros "closer"

That's not nice.

"Gros" is idiomatic French for "lanky."
   15. jack the seal clubber (on the sidelines of life) Posted: September 27, 2012 at 03:24 PM (#4247399)
En effet, le gros "closer" se permet de nous révéler que 80% des joueurs des Dodgers du temps faisait usage d'hormones de croissance comme lui.


Translation:
"We will surrender to the Germans, the Italians, the Bulgarians, and anyone else who demands it. After that we will have sex and croissants, and refuse to shower".
   16. UCCF Posted: September 27, 2012 at 03:53 PM (#4247423)
Has there been an explanation why the French were clamoring for a biography of Eric Gagne?
   17. Ron J2 Posted: September 27, 2012 at 04:08 PM (#4247446)
#16 Because there are relatively few French-Canadian baseball players. He was a featured item on RDS (Quebec's sports network) for years. Sure it's a small market, but he's got it pretty much to himself.
   18. Steve Treder Posted: September 27, 2012 at 05:30 PM (#4247547)
Because there are relatively few French-Canadian baseball players. He was a featured item on RDS (Quebec's sports network) for years. Sure it's a small market, but he's got it pretty much to himself.

Somewhere, Ray Daviault sheds a lonely tear.
   19. Slivers of Maranville descends into chaos (SdeB) Posted: September 27, 2012 at 05:36 PM (#4247555)

My favorite part about this story is how French is being treated as some obscure, indecipherable language.


Obligatory link.

   20. Walt Davis Posted: September 27, 2012 at 05:54 PM (#4247567)
My favorite part about this story is how French is being treated as some obscure, indecipherable language.

cf Sosa testifying in Spanish before Congress.

Never mind that Sosa's testimony was in English.

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