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1. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: September 22, 2012 at 07:45 PM (#4243278)Unlike the AL Central, which appears to be a match-up by two teams trying desperately to see who can fall ass-backwards into the playoffs first.
ARE YOU NOT INSPIRED?
Hey, you've only had to do that for a couple of days. I've been doing that for six months.
I haven't been this weekend so I don't think I will next weekend. Logically I want to see the Yankees finish second so the Orioles winning is a good thing as is the Sox getting a protected and high draft pick. Emotionally as I watch the games I find myself rooting hard for the Sox.
DET 80-70 [10-9 in SEPT] (0.5 GB)
After watching the Tigers in '06, '07 and '09, I'd just like to say it's nice to see some other AL Central team collapse for a change!
I have a lot of exoerience rooting for Orioles teams playing out the string, and I've never been able to root against my team no matter how beneficial it might seem to get a better draft pick or allow a preferred contender to win.
I suspect most fans are the same way. I was at the game yesterday and a few Sox fans told me they didn't mind the Os winning, but when the Sox came back to tie it up, they were on their feet with everyone else.
I have been! I suppose I should say I still want the youngsters to do well, but I don't particularly care whether guys like Cody Ross and Scott Podsednik succeed.
Other contenders: the '84 Mets, '97 Giants and '07 D-Backs all went 90-72 (and SF and ARZ won their divisions, to boot); the '84 Royals and '87 Twins both won the AL West (and both faced the Tigers in the ALCS); and the 2005 Padres were outscored by a whopping 42 runs (684-726) but managed to skate to the NL West title (and then got swept by the Braves to finish 82-83, the first playoff team with an overall losing record).
Oh, and the 1972 Mets were outscored by fifty runs, but managed to end up 83-73, third place. (They won only 83 the following year, too, but made it all the way to Game 7 of the World Series!)
Worst R-RA for a winning team: 1905 Tigers, 79-74, .516; 512-602 (-90).
Best record for a team outscored by 100+ runs: 2007 Cards, 78-84, .481; 725-829 (-104).
150+ runs: 2004 Reds, 76-86, .469; 750-907 (-157).
200+ runs: 1935 Browns, 65-87, .428; 718-930 (-212).
Worst differential for a non-last place team: 1939 A's, 55-97, .362 (thirteen ahead of the Browns!); 711-1,022 (-311).
Worst. Team. Ever: 1899 Cleveland Spiders: 20-134, .130; 529-1,252 (-723).
There's a pretty decent chance they won't qualify for that list.
I will do so without hesitation. Then again, I couldn't bring myself to root for the Yankees during Game 162 last year, so my disdain for them is rather outsized.
2000 Yankees?
Who else? That's one of the tiny handful of Yankee teams where YR's words might actually have been applied, at least if you only were looking at those last two weeks of the regular season. For those last 17 games, they were playing as dreadfully as any team in history ever has ever played over that long a stretch, or at least I'll say that until proven wrong. There have been lots of teams that got blown out repeatedly over the course of a week or less, but I've yet to seen anything like this over that many games, let alone from a team that would then go on to win the World Series.
The '95 and '96 teams were actually underdogs. Especially facing the Braves in '96.
The '95 and '96 teams were actually underdogs. Especially facing the Braves in '96.
Yeah, but in the case of the 2000 Yanks we're talking about more than just sabermetric or vegas underdogs. We're talking about a team that came into the postseason playing like the reincarnation of the 1962 Mets or the 1916 A's, if not quite the 1899 Cleveland Spiders.
I hedged my bets on Wednesday, partially because my schedule dictates that's the latest I can be at a game. Right now it seems unlikely it'll happen by that day.
Who had won the two previous World Series and three of the last four. C'mon.
I don't care if they were playing like the Bad News Bears, they weren't underdogs.
Right, they were huge favorites going into the ALDS against an A's team that had gone 14 and 3 in that same season-ending stretch, while the Yankees went 3 and 14 and getting blown out 5 times in the last week alone. Oddsmakers always ignore little trifles like that.
Umpire ego is one of the worst things about baseball.
Come on, fellas, you all know they couldn't have been underdogs, they're the Yankees! By definition the cannot be underdogs.
Just think...if MLB commissions Dr. Noonian Soong to develop android* umpires with emotions...the mind boggles.
* android non-smartphone type
There's not much difference between "E. Nuñez" and "E: Nuñez"
I guess facing Ryan Flaherty helps more than a bit.
They really need to sweep the jays, who appear to have completely given up.
EDIT: And they have ten games against three teams who are collectively 198-259 (.433), so if the Yankees can't win 6 of those 10, they don't deserve any kind of playoff berth.
The only thing they've got going for them is a remaining schedule full of cripples, but you know that not even those three teams are going to roll over and play dead out of love or deference.
The truth is that there's not a single player on that Yankee roster right now who combines a star's talent with a true star's consistency or dependability. All they can do at this point is hope that a couple of the power hitters and power pitchers will get hot at the right time, but I wouldn't bet on it. Good power pitching is even money to hold the Yankees to 2 or 3 runs in any given game, and with that inconsistent rotation they're not going to be able to hold their opponents below that in the postseason.
I don't see any scary rotations looming in the post-season. This season, the AL is full of flawed teams.
Oh, of course the Yankees can still blow it completely, or be one and done.
But, if they win the Division, I think they have as good a chance as anyone.
Exactly. As I said recently, I am as happy with Harrison, Darvish, and Holland as I've been with any Ranger front-line starters in memory. And they could easily be dismantled 1-2-3 in the first round.
The only thing worse than that Eric Gregg strike zone in the Yankee game today was the way the Yankees hit, pitched, and fielded. The umpiring was dreadful but the ump wasn't making Nunez botch that game-costing play or making Cano and Granderson look like they were trying to hit a butterfly in a wind tunnel.
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I don't follow the Yankees but it seems like Nunez makes an error (often a costly one) in pretty much every game he plays. Is he really that terrible or do I catch him on bad days?
No, Nunez really is that terrible. All the time. He's like Chuck Knoblauch circa 1999 with a slightly sunnier disposition. The only reason they ever play him at SS is that they're trying to preserve Jeter for the postseason rather than make Jeter play the field while he's not at full speed. (Which is slow enough to begin with.)
If the Os can just force a game 163, it should be at Camden yards and I like their chances.
And the AL East standings will look different tomorrow (barring rain) since the Os play a double header.
Any of the AL teams are capable of winning it all, or going meekly in 3 games.
Yep. Especially since the second half of this sentence pretty much means that the first half must be true.
Well, in some years, you have really good teams that you think are at least going to make themselves a tough 4 or 5 game out.
I could see any of these teams just flat out sucking for three games.
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