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Saturday, September 22, 2012

AL playoff race: September 22, 2012

AL East

NYY 88-63 [13-7 in SEPT]
BAL 87-64 [14-6 in SEPT] (1 GB)

AL Central

CWS 81-70 [9-11 in SEPT]
DET 80-70 [10-9 in SEPT] (0.5 GB)

AL West

TEX 89-62 [11-9 in SEPT]
OAK 85-66 [11-9 in SEPT] (4 GB)

AL Wildcard

BAL 87-64 [14-6 in SEPT] (2 GA)
OAK 85-66 [11-9 in SEPT]
LAA 83-69 [11-8 in SEPT] (2.5 GB)

MLB.com: Yankees outlast A’s to maintain first-place lead
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NTNgod Posted: September 22, 2012 at 06:53 PM | 65 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: September 22, 2012 at 07:45 PM (#4243278)
It's pretty incredible that Baltimore has been playing .700 ball for September and gained just one game while the Yankees have played .650 and lost a game. That's a good job by both teams.

Unlike the AL Central, which appears to be a match-up by two teams trying desperately to see who can fall ass-backwards into the playoffs first.
   2. boteman is not here 'til October Posted: September 22, 2012 at 07:48 PM (#4243282)
That Yankees-As game today was nutso. Never have two teams struggled so long and put so much energy into not winning a game. At least the Orioles crept even with the Yanks. This is gettin goooood.
   3. Spahn Insane Posted: September 22, 2012 at 07:49 PM (#4243284)
This means, of course, that whoever manages to win the Central's gonna run the table in the postseason.
   4. You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR) Posted: September 22, 2012 at 07:49 PM (#4243285)
Are you not inspired!

ARE YOU NOT INSPIRED?
   5. Esoteric Posted: September 22, 2012 at 07:50 PM (#4243286)
That Yankees-As game today was nutso. Never have two teams struggled so long and put so much energy into not winning a game. At least the Orioles crept even with the Yanks
Um...might want to recheck the outcome of that Yankees-Athletics game again.
   6. Spahn Insane Posted: September 22, 2012 at 07:55 PM (#4243295)
That said, the Yanks/A's game was indeed nutso.
   7. Sweatpants Posted: September 22, 2012 at 08:04 PM (#4243303)
Miguel Cabrera homered today, tying him with Josh Hamilton for the league lead in homers, which means he now leads (or is tied for the lead) in all three triple crown categories.
   8. David Nieporent (now, with children) Posted: September 22, 2012 at 08:19 PM (#4243314)
#### the As. How can you take a four-run lead in extra innings and then let the first three freaking batters get on base and then throw a wild pitch and then give up a game-tying home run and then make an error on a routine play?
   9. Jim Wisinski Posted: September 22, 2012 at 08:39 PM (#4243324)
The Rays flopping in September has put me in the disgusting position of having to root for the Yankees to win this weekend.
   10. Gamingboy Posted: September 22, 2012 at 09:36 PM (#4243338)
At this point, the Orioles best hope appears to be the odd chance that, maybe, Buck Showalter will personally challenge the Yankees to a grudge match. The Yankees could, of course, ignore him and continue on the inevitable way to a 1-game division victory, whilest forever shaming themselves and their honor for not accepting the duel/grudge match.

   11. Best Regards, President of Comfort, Esq. Posted: September 22, 2012 at 09:52 PM (#4243345)
The Rays flopping in September has put me in the disgusting position of having to root for the Yankees to win this weekend.
I've had to root for the Red Sox. And they couldn't even come through!!!
   12. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: September 22, 2012 at 09:57 PM (#4243346)
I've had to root for the Red Sox. And they couldn't even come through!!!


Hey, you've only had to do that for a couple of days. I've been doing that for six months.
   13. Best Regards, President of Comfort, Esq. Posted: September 22, 2012 at 10:01 PM (#4243350)
Hey, you've only had to do that for a couple of days. I've been doing that for six months.
Next weekend, are you going to root for the Orioles to sweep the Sox so the Yankees might lose the division?
   14. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: September 22, 2012 at 10:07 PM (#4243352)
Next weekend, are you going to root for the Orioles to sweep the Sox so the Yankees might lose the division?


I haven't been this weekend so I don't think I will next weekend. Logically I want to see the Yankees finish second so the Orioles winning is a good thing as is the Sox getting a protected and high draft pick. Emotionally as I watch the games I find myself rooting hard for the Sox.
   15. JJ1986 Posted: September 22, 2012 at 11:57 PM (#4243392)
Ernesto Frieri has insane numbers against lefties.
   16. Lassus Posted: September 23, 2012 at 12:29 AM (#4243401)
I watched innings 8 to the end of that Yankees/A's game. I concur it was batshit.
   17. RMc's desperate, often sordid world Posted: September 23, 2012 at 05:22 AM (#4243445)
CWS 81-70 [9-11 in SEPT]
DET 80-70 [10-9 in SEPT] (0.5 GB)


After watching the Tigers in '06, '07 and '09, I'd just like to say it's nice to see some other AL Central team collapse for a change!
   18. DKDC Posted: September 23, 2012 at 08:00 AM (#4243454)
#14, as you should.

I have a lot of exoerience rooting for Orioles teams playing out the string, and I've never been able to root against my team no matter how beneficial it might seem to get a better draft pick or allow a preferred contender to win.

I suspect most fans are the same way. I was at the game yesterday and a few Sox fans told me they didn't mind the Os winning, but when the Sox came back to tie it up, they were on their feet with everyone else.
   19. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: September 23, 2012 at 08:35 AM (#4243469)
Next weekend, are you going to root for the Orioles to sweep the Sox so the Yankees might lose the division?

I have been! I suppose I should say I still want the youngsters to do well, but I don't particularly care whether guys like Cody Ross and Scott Podsednik succeed.
   20. Best Regards, President of Comfort, Esq. Posted: September 23, 2012 at 08:42 AM (#4243471)
It doesn't feel like the Yankees have won 7 straight. Mostly because they've had to win 7 straight.
   21. BDC Posted: September 23, 2012 at 09:09 AM (#4243476)
Meanwhile, the Rangers waste a strong start by Matt Harrison, but see their magic number drop to eight with eleven to play. I was studying on my chances to be at a division-clinching game this week in Arlington, but if the Rangers get swept today in Seattle I will stop holding my breath …
   22. RMc's desperate, often sordid world Posted: September 23, 2012 at 10:22 AM (#4243519)
Right now, the 2012 Orioles have the best record of any MLB team that has been outscored (87-64, .576; 666-671). The previously record holder is...the Baltimore Orioles of 1981, who went 59-46 (.562), despite scoring 429 runs and allowing 437. They finished 2 GB the Yankees in the first half and 2 GB of the Brewers in the second half. (For you younger readers, there was a split season in '81. Yes, really. Don't ask.) The full-season mark goes to the 1932 Pirates: 86-68, .558, second place, 4 GB of the Cubs; 701-711.

Other contenders: the '84 Mets, '97 Giants and '07 D-Backs all went 90-72 (and SF and ARZ won their divisions, to boot); the '84 Royals and '87 Twins both won the AL West (and both faced the Tigers in the ALCS); and the 2005 Padres were outscored by a whopping 42 runs (684-726) but managed to skate to the NL West title (and then got swept by the Braves to finish 82-83, the first playoff team with an overall losing record).

Oh, and the 1972 Mets were outscored by fifty runs, but managed to end up 83-73, third place. (They won only 83 the following year, too, but made it all the way to Game 7 of the World Series!)

Worst R-RA for a winning team: 1905 Tigers, 79-74, .516; 512-602 (-90).
Best record for a team outscored by 100+ runs: 2007 Cards, 78-84, .481; 725-829 (-104).
150+ runs: 2004 Reds, 76-86, .469; 750-907 (-157).
200+ runs: 1935 Browns, 65-87, .428; 718-930 (-212).
Worst differential for a non-last place team: 1939 A's, 55-97, .362 (thirteen ahead of the Browns!); 711-1,022 (-311).
Worst. Team. Ever: 1899 Cleveland Spiders: 20-134, .130; 529-1,252 (-723).
   23. DKDC Posted: September 23, 2012 at 10:45 AM (#4243529)
The Os run differential is down to -5 with 11 left to play.

There's a pretty decent chance they won't qualify for that list.
   24. SoSH U at work Posted: September 23, 2012 at 10:52 AM (#4243532)
Next weekend, are you going to root for the Orioles to sweep the Sox so the Yankees might lose the division?


I will do so without hesitation. Then again, I couldn't bring myself to root for the Yankees during Game 162 last year, so my disdain for them is rather outsized.

   25. Jolly Old St. Nick Is A Jolly Old St. Crip Posted: September 23, 2012 at 11:02 AM (#4243536)
There's no standard category that this fits into, but what about a team that between September 15 and the end of the season was outscored by 145 to 57, including 6 double digit blowouts and 2 others by 8 runs----and then went on to win the World Series?
   26. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: September 23, 2012 at 11:14 AM (#4243544)
There's no standard category that this fits into, but what about a team that between September 15 and the end of the season was outscored by 145 to 57, including 6 double digit blowouts and 2 others by 8 runs----and then went on to win the World Series?

2000 Yankees?
   27. Jolly Old St. Nick Is A Jolly Old St. Crip Posted: September 23, 2012 at 11:31 AM (#4243558)
2000 Yankees?

Who else? That's one of the tiny handful of Yankee teams where YR's words might actually have been applied, at least if you only were looking at those last two weeks of the regular season. For those last 17 games, they were playing as dreadfully as any team in history ever has ever played over that long a stretch, or at least I'll say that until proven wrong. There have been lots of teams that got blown out repeatedly over the course of a week or less, but I've yet to seen anything like this over that many games, let alone from a team that would then go on to win the World Series.

   28. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: September 23, 2012 at 11:38 AM (#4243566)
Who else? That's one of the tiny handful of Yankee teams where YR's words might actually have been applied,

The '95 and '96 teams were actually underdogs. Especially facing the Braves in '96.
   29. Jolly Old St. Nick Is A Jolly Old St. Crip Posted: September 23, 2012 at 12:46 PM (#4243599)
Who else? That's one of the tiny handful of Yankee teams where YR's words might actually have been applied,

The '95 and '96 teams were actually underdogs. Especially facing the Braves in '96.


Yeah, but in the case of the 2000 Yanks we're talking about more than just sabermetric or vegas underdogs. We're talking about a team that came into the postseason playing like the reincarnation of the 1962 Mets or the 1916 A's, if not quite the 1899 Cleveland Spiders.
   30. ajnrules Posted: September 23, 2012 at 01:07 PM (#4243610)
I was studying on my chances to be at a division-clinching game this week in Arlington, but if the Rangers get swept today in Seattle I will stop holding my breath …


I hedged my bets on Wednesday, partially because my schedule dictates that's the latest I can be at a game. Right now it seems unlikely it'll happen by that day.
   31. Baldrick Posted: September 23, 2012 at 01:41 PM (#4243626)
Yeah, but in the case of the 2000 Yanks we're talking about more than just sabermetric or vegas underdogs. We're talking about a team that came into the postseason playing like the reincarnation of the 1962 Mets or the 1916 A's, if not quite the 1899 Cleveland Spiders.

Who had won the two previous World Series and three of the last four. C'mon.

I don't care if they were playing like the Bad News Bears, they weren't underdogs.
   32. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: September 23, 2012 at 01:50 PM (#4243631)
There is some terrible umpiring in the Yankee game already. Gracious.
   33. Jolly Old St. Nick Is A Jolly Old St. Crip Posted: September 23, 2012 at 01:53 PM (#4243633)
I don't care if they were playing like the Bad News Bears, they weren't underdogs.

Right, they were huge favorites going into the ALDS against an A's team that had gone 14 and 3 in that same season-ending stretch, while the Yankees went 3 and 14 and getting blown out 5 times in the last week alone. Oddsmakers always ignore little trifles like that.
   34. salajander Posted: September 23, 2012 at 02:26 PM (#4243644)
There is some terrible umpiring in the Yankee game already. Gracious.


Umpire ego is one of the worst things about baseball.
   35. salajander Posted: September 23, 2012 at 02:33 PM (#4243647)
I don't care if they were playing like the Bad News Bears, they weren't underdogs.


Come on, fellas, you all know they couldn't have been underdogs, they're the Yankees! By definition the cannot be underdogs.
   36. Jolly Old St. Nick Is A Jolly Old St. Crip Posted: September 23, 2012 at 03:10 PM (#4243668)
Jesus, I thought that ####### Eric Gregg was dead, but I guess not.
   37. boteman is not here 'til October Posted: September 23, 2012 at 03:15 PM (#4243672)
Umpire ego is one of the worst things about baseball.

Just think...if MLB commissions Dr. Noonian Soong to develop android* umpires with emotions...the mind boggles.

* android non-smartphone type
   38. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: September 23, 2012 at 03:28 PM (#4243683)
Umpire ego is one of the worst things about baseball.
Just behind Eduardo Nunez's defense, I assume.
   39. salajander Posted: September 23, 2012 at 03:54 PM (#4243699)
Just behind Eduardo Nunez's defense, I assume.


There's not much difference between "E. Nuñez" and "E: Nuñez"
   40. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: September 23, 2012 at 04:28 PM (#4243714)
The Red Sox are going to blow it.
   41. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: September 23, 2012 at 04:30 PM (#4243716)
Sweet tittfucking christ, the Orioles lost.
   42. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: September 23, 2012 at 04:30 PM (#4243717)
The Red Sox are going to blow it.
They sure tried to.
   43. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: September 23, 2012 at 04:37 PM (#4243719)
Holy cow! Boston has some piss poor relief pitching. Can't believe they held on.

I guess facing Ryan Flaherty helps more than a bit.
   44. DKDC Posted: September 23, 2012 at 04:42 PM (#4243720)
I have no doubt that the As will blow this, so the Os will be two back with 10 to play.

They really need to sweep the jays, who appear to have completely given up.
   45. cercopithecus aethiops Posted: September 23, 2012 at 04:48 PM (#4243722)
Pretty obvious reverse jinx there, DKDC. You're not fooling anybody.
   46. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: September 23, 2012 at 04:49 PM (#4243723)
I have no doubt that the As will blow this, so the Os will be two back with 10 to play.
Nah, there's no way the Yankees will give me that kind of serenity.
   47. cercopithecus aethiops Posted: September 23, 2012 at 04:54 PM (#4243726)
A-Rod comes up a yard short.
   48. BDC Posted: September 23, 2012 at 04:54 PM (#4243728)
Balfour seems to be making a bit of a declaration here. Time for some action if y'all are interested in giving the Rangers some breathing room, gentlemen.
   49. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: September 23, 2012 at 04:56 PM (#4243730)
Well, I said earlier that if the Yankees took two from each of their remaining series (Oakland inclusive) they'd be in good shape. So far, mission accomplished.

EDIT: And they have ten games against three teams who are collectively 198-259 (.433), so if the Yankees can't win 6 of those 10, they don't deserve any kind of playoff berth.
   50. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: September 23, 2012 at 04:58 PM (#4243731)
The Yankees offense is just woeful right now. It's basically Ichiro, Jeter and Swisher. Cano, ARod and Granderson are just useless.
   51. cercopithecus aethiops Posted: September 23, 2012 at 05:06 PM (#4243740)
Rodriguez had a bad game today, but he was on base five times and scored three runs just yesterday.
   52. DKDC Posted: September 23, 2012 at 05:06 PM (#4243741)
Hopefully that 9th inning doesn't signal the end of the Os mojo. Wieters ball 4 is called a strike and then he grounds out. Jim jam hits a double that would easily score a run from first, but it bounces over the fence. And then a borderline pitch called strike three to end the game.
   53. Jolly Old St. Nick Is A Jolly Old St. Crip Posted: September 23, 2012 at 05:10 PM (#4243749)
The Yankees offense is just woeful right now. It's basically Ichiro, Jeter and Swisher. Cano, ARod and Granderson are just useless.

The only thing they've got going for them is a remaining schedule full of cripples, but you know that not even those three teams are going to roll over and play dead out of love or deference.

The truth is that there's not a single player on that Yankee roster right now who combines a star's talent with a true star's consistency or dependability. All they can do at this point is hope that a couple of the power hitters and power pitchers will get hot at the right time, but I wouldn't bet on it. Good power pitching is even money to hold the Yankees to 2 or 3 runs in any given game, and with that inconsistent rotation they're not going to be able to hold their opponents below that in the postseason.
   54. cercopithecus aethiops Posted: September 23, 2012 at 05:10 PM (#4243750)
If it makes you feel better, the Yankee game also ended on a borderline called strike three, and I suspect the ball/strike calls were at least as bad overall as in the O's game.
   55. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: September 23, 2012 at 05:15 PM (#4243756)
Good power pitching is even money to hold the Yankees to 2 or 3 runs in any given game, and with that inconsistent rotation they're not going to be able to hold their opponents below that in the postseason.

I don't see any scary rotations looming in the post-season. This season, the AL is full of flawed teams.
   56. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: September 23, 2012 at 05:19 PM (#4243765)
I don't see any scary rotations looming in the post-season.
Just remember, eggs don't always equal chickens.
   57. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: September 23, 2012 at 05:23 PM (#4243766)
Just remember, eggs don't always equal chickens.

Oh, of course the Yankees can still blow it completely, or be one and done.

But, if they win the Division, I think they have as good a chance as anyone.
   58. #6bid is partially elite Posted: September 23, 2012 at 05:24 PM (#4243768)
38, 39: I don't follow the Yankees but it seems like Nunez makes an error (often a costly one) in pretty much every game he plays. Is he really that terrible or do I catch him on bad days?
   59. BDC Posted: September 23, 2012 at 05:33 PM (#4243772)
I don't see any scary rotations looming in the post-season

Exactly. As I said recently, I am as happy with Harrison, Darvish, and Holland as I've been with any Ranger front-line starters in memory. And they could easily be dismantled 1-2-3 in the first round.
   60. Jolly Old St. Nick Is A Jolly Old St. Crip Posted: September 23, 2012 at 05:34 PM (#4243773)
If it makes you feel better, the Yankee game also ended on a borderline called strike three, and I suspect the ball/strike calls were at least as bad overall as in the O's game.\

The only thing worse than that Eric Gregg strike zone in the Yankee game today was the way the Yankees hit, pitched, and fielded. The umpiring was dreadful but the ump wasn't making Nunez botch that game-costing play or making Cano and Granderson look like they were trying to hit a butterfly in a wind tunnel.

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I don't follow the Yankees but it seems like Nunez makes an error (often a costly one) in pretty much every game he plays. Is he really that terrible or do I catch him on bad days?

No, Nunez really is that terrible. All the time. He's like Chuck Knoblauch circa 1999 with a slightly sunnier disposition. The only reason they ever play him at SS is that they're trying to preserve Jeter for the postseason rather than make Jeter play the field while he's not at full speed. (Which is slow enough to begin with.)
   61. DKDC Posted: September 23, 2012 at 05:52 PM (#4243782)
I like the Os chances to pick up a game on the yanks this week. The os play all their games at home, with a day off on Thursday. The Yanks go on the road for 7 straight.

If the Os can just force a game 163, it should be at Camden yards and I like their chances.

And the AL East standings will look different tomorrow (barring rain) since the Os play a double header.
   62. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: September 23, 2012 at 05:58 PM (#4243787)
Exactly. As I said recently, I am as happy with Harrison, Darvish, and Holland as I've been with any Ranger front-line starters in memory. And they could easily be dismantled 1-2-3 in the first round.

Any of the AL teams are capable of winning it all, or going meekly in 3 games.
   63. cercopithecus aethiops Posted: September 23, 2012 at 06:07 PM (#4243792)
Any of the AL teams are capable of winning it all, or going meekly in 3 games.


Yep. Especially since the second half of this sentence pretty much means that the first half must be true.
   64. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: September 23, 2012 at 06:09 PM (#4243794)
38, 39: I don't follow the Yankees but it seems like Nunez makes an error (often a costly one) in pretty much every game he plays. Is he really that terrible or do I catch him on bad days?
Nunez is dreadful. I would glue him to the bench except maybe to pinch run were I the manager. And I'd ship out this off-season. He has no role on this team.
   65. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: September 23, 2012 at 06:10 PM (#4243796)
Yep. Especially since the second half of this sentence pretty much means that the first half must be true.

Well, in some years, you have really good teams that you think are at least going to make themselves a tough 4 or 5 game out.

I could see any of these teams just flat out sucking for three games.

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