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1. The importance of being Ernest Riles Posted: September 26, 2012 at 11:37 PM (#4246843)(Part 1 of 2)
How to determine playoff tiebreakers
Determining Home-Field Advantage in Two-Team Tiebreakers
1. Head-to-head winning percentage during the 2012 regular season.
2. Higher winning percentage in intradivision games.
3. Higher winning percentage in the last half of intraleague games.
4. Higher winning percentage in the last half plus one intraleague game, provided that such additional game was not between the two tied clubs. Continue to go back one intraleague game at a time until the tie has been broken.
Determining A, B, C Designations in Three-Team Tiebreakers
1. All Three Clubs Have Identical Records Against One Another
• Club with highest winning percentage among three tied clubs in intradivision games chooses its designation, followed by the team with the next highest winning percentage in intradivision games. If any two of the clubs have identical winning percentages, then then the two-Club tiebreak rules will break that tie. If all three Clubs have identical winning percentages, then;
• Club with the highest winning percentage in the last half of intraleague games chooses its designation, followed by the team with the next highest winning percentage in intraleague games. If any two of the clubs have identical winning percentages, then then the two-Club tiebreak rules will break that tie. If all three Clubs have identical winning percentages, then;
• Club with the highest winning percentage in the last half plus one intraleague game, provided that such additional game was not between any of the tied Clubs, chooses its designation, followed by the team with the next highest winning percentage in the last half plus one intraleague game. Continue to go back one intraleague game at a time until the tie has been broken.
2. Three Clubs Do Not Have Identical Records Against One Another
• If Club 1 has a better record against Clubs 2 and 3, and Club 2 has a better record against Club 3, then Club 1 chooses its designation, followed by Club 2.
• If Club 1 has a better record against Clubs 2 and 3, and Club 2 and 3 have identical records against one another, then Club 1 chooses its designation. Clubs 2 and 3 would follow the two-Club tiebreak rules to break their tie to pick the next designation.
• If Club 1 and 2 have identical records against one another, but each has a better record against Club 3, then Clubs 1 and 2 would follow the two-Club tiebreak rules to break their tie to pick the first designation.
• If Club 1 has a better record against Club 2, Club 2 has a better record against Club 3, and Club 3 has a better record against Club 1; OR Club 1 has a better record against Club 2, Club 2 and 3 have identical records against one another and Club 3 has a better record against Club 1; OR Club 1 and 2 have identical records against one another, Club 1 has a better record against Club 3 and Club 2 and 3 have identical records against one another, then:
a. The Clubs will be ranked by their overall winning percentage amongst the other Clubs combined. The Club with the highest overall winning percentage in that group chooses its designation, followed by the team with the next highest overall winning percentage.
b. If two of the Clubs have identical winning percentages, then they would follow the two-Club tiebreak rules to break their tie to pick their designation.
c. If all three teams have identical winning percentages, then the tiebreak rules above (No. 1) for three clubs having identical records against one another should be followed.
Determining A, B, C, D Designations in Four-Team Tiebreakers
1. The Club with the highest winning percentage in games among the tied Clubs chooses its designation first, followed by the Club with the second-highest winning percentage and the Club with the third-highest winning percentage. If two Clubs have identical winning percentages, then the two-Club tiebreak rules shall apply to determine which team selects its designation first. If three Clubs have identical winning percentages, then the three-Club tiebreak rules shall apply to determine which teams select their designation first. If all four Clubs have identical winning percentages, then;
2. The Club with the highest winning percentage in intradivision games chooses its designation first, followed by the Club with the second-highest winning percentage and the Club with the third-highest winning percentage. If two Clubs have identical winning percentages, then the two-Club tiebreak rules shall apply to determine which team selects its designation first. If three Clubs have identical winning percentages, then the three-Club tiebreak rules shall apply to determine which teams select their designation first. If all four Clubs have identical winning percentages, then;
3. The Club with the highest winning percentage in the last half of intraleague games chooses its designation first, followed by the Club with the second-highest winning percentage and the Club with the third-highest winning percentage. If two Clubs have identical winning percentages, then the two-Club tiebreak rules shall apply to determine which team selects its designation first. If three Clubs have identical winning percentages, then the three-Club tiebreak rules shall apply to determine which teams select their designation first. If all four Clubs have identical winning percentages, then;
4. The Club with the highest winning percentage in the last half plus one intraleague game, provided that such additional game was not between any of the tied Clubs, chooses its designation followed by the Club with the second-highest winning percentage and the Club with the third-highest winning percentage. Continue to go back one intraleague game at a time until any ties have been broken.
Tiebreak Scenarios
Two-Club Tie for Division Championship (Losing team does not qualify for Wild Card):
One tiebreak game will be played on Thursday, October 4th (tentatively) to determine the Division Champion. Home field advantage will be determined by the rules above for a two-team tiebreaker.
Two-Club Tie for Division Championship and Wild Card:
One tiebreak game will be played on Thursday, October 4th (tentatively) to determine the Division Champion. The loser of the game will be declared a Wild Card. Home field advantage will be determined by the rules above for a two-team tiebreaker.
Two-Club Tie for Division Championship & Tie with Club Outside Division For One Wild Card Spot:
1. One tiebreak game will be played on Thursday, October 4th (tentatively) to determine the Division Champion. Home field advantage will be determined by the rules above for a two-team tiebreaker.
2. A second tiebreak game will be played on Friday, October 5th (tentatively) between the loser of the game to determine the Division Champion and the team from the other division at the ballpark of the team in the other division to determine the Wild Card.
Two-Club Tie for Division Championship & Tie with Club Outside Division For Two Wild Card Spots:
One tiebreak game will be played on Thursday, October 4th (tentatively) to determine the Division Champion. Home field advantage will be determined by the rules above for a two-team tiebreaker. The loser of the game and the team from the other division will both be declared Wild Cards. Home field advantage in the Wild Card game will be determined by the rules above for a two-team tiebreaker.
Two-Club Tie for Division Championship & Tie with Two Clubs Outside Division For One Wild Card Spot:
1. Two tiebreak games will be played on Thursday, October 4th (tentatively). One will feature the two Clubs tied for the Division to determine the Division Champion, and the other will feature the other two Clubs outside the division. Home field advantage in each game will be determined by the rules above for a two-team tiebreaker.
2. A third tiebreak game will be played on Friday, October 5th (tentatively) between the loser of the game to determine the Division Champion and the winner of the game between the two Clubs outside the division at the ballpark of the team outside the division to determine the Wild Card.
Two-Club Tie for Division Championship & Tie with Two Clubs Outside Division For Two Wild Card Spots:
1. Two tiebreak games will be played on Thursday, October 4th (tentatively). One will feature the two Clubs tied for the Division to determine the Division Champion, and the other will feature the other two Clubs outside the division to determine one Wild Card Club. Home field advantage in each game will be determined by the rules above for a two-team tiebreaker.
2. A third tiebreak game will be played on Friday, October 5th (tentatively) between the loser of the game to determine the Division Champion and the loser of the game between the two Clubs outside the division to determine the second Wild Card Club. Home field advantage in the game will be determined by the rules above for a two-team tiebreaker.
Two-Club Tie for One Wild Card Spot:
One tiebreak game will be played on Thursday, October 4th (tentatively) to determine the Wild Card. Home field advantage will be determined by the rules above for a two-team tiebreaker.
Three-Club Tie for Division Championship (Losing teams do not qualify for Wild Card):
After Clubs have been assigned their A, B and C designations, Club A would host Club B on Thursday, October 4th (tentatively). The winner of that game would then host Club C on Friday, October 5th (tentatively) to determine the Division Champion.
Three-Club Tie for Division Championship & One Wild Card Spot:
After Clubs have been assigned their A, B and C designations, Club A would host Club B on Thursday, October 4th (tentatively). The winner of that game would then host Club C on Friday, October 5th (tentatively) to determine the Division Champion. The loser of the game would be declared the Wild Card Club.
Three-Club Tie for Division Championship & Two Wild Card Spots:
After Clubs have been assigned their A, B and C designations, Club A would host Club B on Thursday, October 4th (tentatively). The loser of the game would be declared one Wild Card Club. The winner of that game would then host Club C on Friday, October 5th (tentatively) to determine the Division Champion. The loser of the game would be declared the other Wild Card Club.
Three-Club Tie for Division Championship & Tie with Club Outside Division For One Wild Card Spot:
After Clubs have been assigned their A, B, C and D designations (In this case, Club D would be the Club outside the Division), Club A would host Club B and Club C would host Club D on Thursday, October 4th (tentatively).
1. If Club D wins, it would be declared the Wild Card Club and the winner of the game between Club A and Club B would be declared the Division Champion.
2. If Club C wins, then the winner of the game between Club A and Club B would host Club C on Friday, October 5th (tentatively). The winner of the game would be declared the Division Champion and the loser would be declared the Wild Card Club.
Three-Club Tie for Division Championship & Tie with Club Outside Division For Two Wild Card Spots:
After Clubs have been assigned their A, B, C and D designations (In this case, Club D would be the Club outside the Division), Club A would host Club B and Club C would host Club D on Thursday, October 4th (tentatively).
1. If Club D wins, it would be declared one Wild Card Club and the winner of the game between Club A and Club B would be declared the Division Champion. The loser of the game between Club A and Club B would host Club C on Friday, October 5th (tentatively) to determine the other Wild Card Club.
2. If Club C wins, then the winner of the game between Club A and Club B would host Club C on Friday, October 5th (tentatively). The winner of the game would be declared the Division Champion and the loser would be declared one Wild Card Club. The loser of the game between Club A and Club B would host Club D, also on Friday, October 5th (tentatively), to determine the other Wild Card Club.
Three-Club Tie for One Wild Card Spot:
After Clubs have been assigned their A, B and C designations, Club A would host Club B on Thursday, October 4th (tentatively). The winner of the game would then host Club C on Friday, October 5th (tentatively) to determine the Wild Card Club.
Three-Club Tie for Two Wild Card Spots:
After Clubs have been assigned their A, B and C designations, Club A would host Club B on Thursday, October 4th (tentatively). The winner of the game would be declared one Wild Card winner. Club C would then host the loser of the game between Club A and Club B on Friday, October 5th (tentatively) to determine the second Wild Card Club.
Four-Club Tie for Division Championship (Losing teams do not qualify for Wild Card):
After Clubs have been assigned their A, B, C and D designations, Club A would host Club B and Club C would host Club D on Thursday, October 4th (tentatively). The winners of each of those games would then meet on Friday, October 5th (tentatively), hosted by the winner of the game between Club A and Club B, to determine the Division Champion.
Four-Club Tie for Division Championship & One Wild Card Spot:
After Clubs have been assigned their A, B, C and D designations, Club A would host Club B and Club C would host Club D on Thursday, October 4th (tentatively). The winners of each of those games would then meet on Friday, October 5th (tentatively), hosted by the winner of the game between Club A and Club B, to determine the Division Champion. The loser of the game would be declared the Wild Card Club.
Four-Club Tie for Division Championship & Two Wild Card Spots:
After Clubs have been assigned their A, B, C and D designations, Club A would host Club B and Club C would host Club D on Thursday, October 4th (tentatively).
1. The winners of each of those games would then meet on Friday, October 5th (tentatively), hosted by the winner of the game between Club A and Club B, to determine the Division Champion. The loser of the game would be declared the Wild Card Club.
2. The losers of the original two games would meet on Friday, October 5th (tentatively), hosted by the loser of the game between Club A and Club B, to determine the other Wild Card Club.
Four-Club Tie for One Wild Card Spot:
After Clubs have been assigned their A, B, C and D designations, Club A would host Club B and Club C would host Club D on Thursday, October 4th (tentatively). The winners of each of those games would then meet on Friday, October 5th (tentatively), hosted by the winner of the game between Club A and Club B, to determine the Wild Card Club.
Four-Club Tie for Two Wild Card Spots:
After Clubs have been assigned their A, B, C and D designations, Club A would host Club B and Club C would host Club D on Thursday, October 4th (tentatively). The winners of each of those games would be declared the Wild Card Clubs.
Thankfully the Yankees won't get to face Carlos Villenueva...
Um, have you seen the Tigers play the Royals and Twins this year?
Maybe that was an attempt at a reverse jinx.
I don't think even a reverse jinx will help the Sox pitching at this point...they walked 12 Indians tonight.
Even Morrow's start, who knows what he'll bring. They've only had one hitter worth a sh!t for how many weeks? Ugly.
With one week left in the season, not a single AL team has clinched a playoff spot -- not even in the sense of a "tie for the second wild card." It is still possible that both the Yankees AND the Rangers will be left out of the playoffs entirely.
How crazy is THAT?
Second-to-last home game of the season, and my last game for 2012. A nice win, and I hope they keep it rolling, but I think they're just out of time.
I'm glad it was fun, and I hope you were able to witness the peak of the Angels season in person.
Having purged myself of bile, I'll turn around and say that the A's are pretty amazing. I hadn't seen them in person since late spring, and they are literally a different ballclub: the only players in the lineup both times I saw them this year were Reddick and Pennington. In May, Reddick was the only guy doing anything, and now he's almost a spare part rattling around the lower part of the lineup. They're a great example of how you can't look at aggregate numbers to assess the strength of a club going into a possible postseason. Right now, they're very good indeed, nothing fluky about them.
I'm still not really a big Orioles believer, but I am believer in giving credit where it's due.
My bet is a 1-game playoff for the AL Central. I don't have time right now to figure out which team would host it, probably Chicago.
Strangely, the A's lineup isn't all that different from what they started the season with: Pennington in the MI, Donaldson at 3B, Smith/Gomes platooning at DH/LF, Cespedes at DH/LF, Crisp in CF, and Reddick in RF. Of the three positions that have changed: Norris hasn't been any better than Suzuki, Drew's been a slight improvement on Weeks, and the Moss/Carter platoon/tandem has been a massive improvement over Kila/Barton.
Adding Moss/Carter after May was a big boost to the offense, but it's mostly been the same guys (with the glaring exception of Josh Reddick) who have just turned it on since May. Here are the pre/post May 30 OPS for the A's regulars:
Player Apr-May Jun-SepPennington .534 .638
Donaldson .375 .860
Smith .706 .796
Gomes .766 .914
Cespedes .753 .869
Crisp .430 .808
Reddick .880 .708
Overall .620 .752
Aside from Donaldson and maybe Cespedes, I think the improvement's been more due to randomness than growth. And Brandon Moss doing his best Josh Hamilton impersonation. They're neither as putrid as they looked in the first half (fewest runs in the AL) nor as good as they've looked in the second half (second most runs in the AL). The offense is pretty averagish overall, and the team is still very reliant on pitching/defense.
If they only take 2 of 4, they could enter the final three games of the season tied. That would not be a comfortable place to be, imo.
I don't think this is true. Looking at the MLB tiebreaker rules, the A's would get to choose whether to play a road game or two home games since the A's won the season series against both the Angels and the Orioles:
But that's the very unlikely scenario in which the Rays finish with the top wild card spot and the A's/O's/LAA's finish tied for the second wild card.
If the O's/A's/LAA's all tie for the 1st wild card: the A's would host the Angels on Thursday. The winner gets one wild card spot, and the loser travels to Baltimore on Friday to play for the other wild card spot.
All I know is if we end up seeing this question answered for real, it will have been some last week.
They only look at the overall record between the three teams if no team won the season series against both of the other teams.
-Detroit
The "home team" for the division series gets games 1 and 2 on the road, and 3, 4, and 5 of the series at home.
The division series teams are seeded as such:
#1 seed: division winner with best record
#2 seed: division winner with second best record
#3 seed: division winner with worst record
#4 seed: winner of wild card play-in game
The #1 and #2 seeds get home field advantage, and they play the #4 and #3 seed respectively.
I wouldn't un-do that trade, but I do miss that guy.
But he can help the O's plenty where he is for the next week or so.
In the past, yes. But not anymore.
It is. Their record against KC is a joke.
And if Ventura keeps IBBing guys like Frenchy in the 9th inning of games, like he did the other night, then he's gotta go.
I feel you. But it ain't over. 2 days from now this could be all tied up and then anything can happen.
Nova isn't a question mark! He's bad!
Cano with 3 more hits. I realize the MVP is no longer an option, I just want him to finish with the best numbers possible. And stick to those people railing on him for only being the 3rd best player in the AL.
I thought Rafael Soriano's shirt-untucking was about as silly as it gets. Apparently not.
I thought he was shooting an imaginary arrow in the air.
But then he kind of looks at it, and points at it, and discusses it with Carlos Pena, who discusses it back.
The whole thing is bizarre.
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