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Tuesday, February 11, 2014

Albert Pujols drops defamation suit

Los Angeles Angels slugger Albert Pujols dropped a defamation lawsuit against Jack Clark on Monday after Clark issued a statement retracting his previous comments alleging that Pujols had used performance-enhancing drugs.

gehrig97 Posted: February 11, 2014 at 02:28 PM | 42 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: February 11, 2014 at 04:24 PM (#4655005)
He wouldn't have dropped three or four years ago. Age and injuries are really hitting him hard.
   2. Ivan Grushenko of Hong Kong Posted: February 11, 2014 at 04:44 PM (#4655020)
So...Jack Clark is an idiot?
   3. Davo Dozier Posted: February 11, 2014 at 04:49 PM (#4655021)
Well, now I can't vote Albert Pujols for the Hall of Fame, what with all the steroid rumors hounding his career.
   4. Anonymous Observer Posted: February 11, 2014 at 05:15 PM (#4655045)
Wife: Honey, do these pants make my ass look fat?
Husband: Without a doubt, they do. You look like a blimp in them.
Wife: How dare you say I look fat in these!
Husband: Oh wait! I misspoke! I retract that I said you look like a blimp in them! I sincerely apologize.
Wife: Okay. So, what would you like for dinner tonight?
   5. The Yankee Clapper Posted: February 11, 2014 at 05:26 PM (#4655055)
"I would like to address Albert Pujols' pending defamation lawsuit and re-confirm that I have no knowledge whatsoever that Mr. Pujols has ever used illegal or banned PEDs," Clark said in a statement that was initially reported by the St. Louis Post-Dispatch. "I publicly retract my statements that Albert Pujols used such substances. During a heated discussion on air, I misspoke and for that I sincerely apologize."

Heated?
   6. RJ in TO Posted: February 11, 2014 at 05:35 PM (#4655065)
So...Jack Clark is an idiot?

Hasn't this been known for quite a while?
   7. McCoy Posted: February 11, 2014 at 05:39 PM (#4655073)
How does what Jack said last year in regards to Albert consititute a "misspoke"?
   8. Canker Soriano Posted: February 11, 2014 at 05:44 PM (#4655079)
How does what Jack said last year in regards to Albert consititute a "misspoke"?

He meant to add a Wayne's World-esque "Not!" at the end of it, but his microphone malfunctioned and didn't pick it up.
   9. God Posted: February 11, 2014 at 05:53 PM (#4655087)
He could have genuinely misspoken. For instance, if he had just said "I think" instead of "I know for a fact," this whole lawsuit never could have happened. He could have hedged the accusation in such a way that it was immune from legal action.
   10. McCoy Posted: February 11, 2014 at 05:57 PM (#4655091)
If that is the reason why would he "sincerely apologize"? Is he sincerely sorry that he got sued and lost his job? So is he apologizing to himself?
   11. Hang down your head, Tom Foley Posted: February 11, 2014 at 06:08 PM (#4655104)
"I said I know for a fact that Albert Pujols is a Jew, sir."
   12. God Posted: February 11, 2014 at 06:11 PM (#4655108)
I think everyone realizes the apology is insincere. Pujols is simply making him heel and Clark is heeling.
   13. Yastrzemski in left. Posted: February 11, 2014 at 07:04 PM (#4655143)
Good. He should heel. It was a stupid thing to say on air. He should have retracted long ago.
   14. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: February 11, 2014 at 07:59 PM (#4655164)
I think everyone realizes the apology is insincere. Pujols is simply making him heel and Clark is heeling.

been there, done that
   15. Publius Publicola Posted: February 11, 2014 at 08:12 PM (#4655169)
Clark was probably right though. He just can't prove it.
   16. Yastrzemski in left. Posted: February 11, 2014 at 08:27 PM (#4655176)
@15 - Just go away already pubic. I really hope you're 15 years old. Because there can be no other excuse for your inanity.
   17. Publius Publicola Posted: February 11, 2014 at 08:36 PM (#4655177)
I'm looking forward to the day when Yastrzemski in left changes his handle to Yastrzemski has left.
   18. Yastrzemski in left. Posted: February 11, 2014 at 09:12 PM (#4655197)
You got a long wait coming, son.

"Clark was probably right though"

Seriously. What a pathetic, inane, pointless, idiotic comment. You need to learn when to keep your yap shut. Pubic-less.
   19. Dr. Vaux Posted: February 11, 2014 at 09:54 PM (#4655216)
Well, if I had to bet that a player either was or wasn't taking steroids, I'd always bet that he was.
   20. Heinie Mantush (Krusty) Posted: February 11, 2014 at 10:07 PM (#4655221)
Well, if I had to bet that a player either was or wasn't taking steroids, I'd always bet that he was.


Sadly, I think that's about where the game is at these days. About a decade ago, a friend and I talked about a list of players we thought were beyond reproach.* I can't imagine having that conversation nowadays. I wonder, outside the BBTF/right end of the bell curve fandom we all inhabit, whether or not Joe Six Pack still thinks certain players are beyond reproach.


*IIRC, our list has turned out alright. The criteria was something like "can't possibly think of a hole in their story." Jeter, Maddux, Glavine, Piazza, Pettitte (oops), Griffey, Ichiro, and a host of then-kids like Mauer, Dontrelle Willis, and BJ Upton who we figured modern testing would deter. We couldn't think of a single football player who wasn't a kicker or a quarterback, and we agreed (probably an oops) that most of the NBA was probably clean.
   21. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: February 11, 2014 at 10:11 PM (#4655223)
I'm looking forward to the day when Yastrzemski in left changes his handle to Yastrzemski has left.

OH SNAP
   22. Publius Publicola Posted: February 11, 2014 at 10:35 PM (#4655230)
YIL reminds me of the guy on the subway with the urine-soaked crotch, scratching his armpits and yelling obscenities at his imaginary friend. It's best to just try and pretend he isn't there, as difficult as that may seem.
   23. Publius Publicola Posted: February 11, 2014 at 10:39 PM (#4655232)
and we agreed (probably an oops) that most of the NBA was probably clean.


What strikes me about the NBA is how easily everyone dunks now. Everybody can not only dunk but power-dunk. It could be better training technique but it's awfully suspicious...
   24. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: February 11, 2014 at 10:50 PM (#4655239)
YIL reminds me of...
If YIL was a bald-faced serial liar, then he'd remind you of yourself.
   25. ptodd Posted: February 12, 2014 at 12:50 AM (#4655275)
Well, at least he did not accuse Pujols of age fraud and being older than he says he is. Also, on the steroid charges I believe Clark said he heard it from one of Pujols coaches, and since it was likely told in confidence he can't prove it.

Classic case of someone using their financial clout to mute criticism. Clarke probably can't afford the legal fees to fight, so took the easy way out, which was the smart thing to do. The fact Pujols chose to pursue it makes me think "he doth protest too much". Hit a nerve there.

Turning into a pumpkin immediately after signing a long term deal makes one wonder. I wonder how many players get off the juice after landing that final big deal since the cost vs the benefit is highly weighted on the cost side after the deal. It could explain the rash of non-performing contracts of late.
   26. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: February 12, 2014 at 01:42 AM (#4655290)
It could explain the rash of non-performing contracts of late.

where the hell have you been in the last 40 years?

Wayne Garland says hi
   27. The Yankee Clapper Posted: February 12, 2014 at 01:50 AM (#4655291)
Classic case of someone using their financial clout to mute criticism. Clarke probably can't afford the legal fees to fight, so took the easy way out, which was the smart thing to do. The fact Pujols chose to pursue it makes me think "he doth protest too much". Hit a nerve there.

Clark made ~$16M as a player, plus whatever he's done since. He's hardly indigent. If Pujols hadn't sued, some here would have said that shows the allegations were true. He sues, and some here say that shows the allegations are true? BBTF at its finest!
   28. Walt Davis Posted: February 12, 2014 at 01:52 AM (#4655292)
Silly me, I always figure YiL and PP were the same person.

Anyhoo, there's almost a topic worth discussing in there. Where do you roid blackballers draw the line?

If I recall correctly (and I may not), this coach of Pujols that Clark referred to was a guy he worked with in juco and the minors. (Maybe early in his MLB days too, I'm not the Amazing Kreskin.) If it turned out that Pujols once used a substance that is now banned, is he forever tainted?

Or Frank Thomas ... I'd frankly be kinda surprised if Thomas didn't use something now banned back in his football days (hs or college). Remember, we're talking somewhat "innocuous" stuff like andro, ephedrine. And of course stimulants. Would it matter if he used prior to joining pro baseball? Why/why not?

If, prior to testing, a player really did use just those couple of months they were recovering from injury, should they be excluded from the HoF? (I realize this would be impossible to prove, treat it as a hypothetical.)

It does seem to me that, for most of y'all riding the high horses, "clean" means "never used, not once, not ever, not even if it was unintentional."
   29. Publius Publicola Posted: February 12, 2014 at 08:30 AM (#4655315)
Clapper, Clark was indiscreet with his baseball money and blew it all on lavish spending and unwise investments. He still has his pension but the money he made as a player is gone.
   30. Ok, Griffey's Dunn (Nothing Iffey About Griffey) Posted: February 12, 2014 at 09:23 AM (#4655331)
Clapper, Clark was indiscreet with his baseball money and blew it all on lavish spending and unwise investments. He still has his pension but the money he made as a player is gone.


Which brings up full circle to...

So...Jack Clark is an idiot?
   31. villageidiom Posted: February 12, 2014 at 10:14 AM (#4655345)
We couldn't think of a single football player who wasn't a kicker or a quarterback, and we agreed (probably an oops) that most of the NBA was probably clean.
I think you were correct on all of those, except kickers, quarterbacks, and the NBA.
   32. attaboy Posted: February 12, 2014 at 11:54 AM (#4655433)
Hey YIL and PP, when you guys are going to 'comment' on a story, please send me a text, I want to follow everything you do, it is just like watching the 'bad girls club'...without the visuals.
   33. Yastrzemski in left. Posted: February 12, 2014 at 02:33 PM (#4655612)
OH SNAP

What a bunch of children. Pujols is one of the elite, rare talents this game has ever seen. You can have all the fun you want speculating and accusing him of something you have absolutely no idea about, something that forever taints his abilities - based on something Jack Clark says - and then retracts - but I'll err on the side of decency and respect. More BS from little kids who never played the game at a high level and like to think they're clever.

As for your lame and strange subway, urine rant - I haven't been on a subway since my college days, son. Some of us have a job and we can afford our own above ground transport.

But it's true what they say - "we write what we know" and now I know your broke, in your piss stained underwear living in your mom's basement.
   34. Heinie Mantush (Krusty) Posted: February 12, 2014 at 02:45 PM (#4655632)
now I know your broke, in your piss stained underwear living in your mom's basement.


...That's a some weak troll-fu. There's nothing original or particularly well-executed about it at all.
   35. Infinite Joost (Voxter) Posted: February 12, 2014 at 03:00 PM (#4655652)
I'm looking forward to the day when Yastrzemski in left changes his handle to Yastrzemski has left.


Well, most of us are looking forward to the day when you're banned again.
   36. Infinite Joost (Voxter) Posted: February 12, 2014 at 03:03 PM (#4655659)
Turning into a pumpkin immediately after signing a long term deal makes one wonder.


That's not really what happened, though. Pujols had a middling (by his standards) final season in St Louis, and then his first season in LA wasn't actually that different from the last one in St Louis.
   37. jacksone (AKA It's OK...) Posted: February 12, 2014 at 03:30 PM (#4655701)
now I know your broke, in your piss stained underwear living in your mom's basement.




...That's a some weak troll-fu. There's nothing original or particularly well-executed about it at all.


Here's how I read it: "I KNOW YOU ARE, BUT WHAT AM I?"
   38. Barry`s_Lazy_Boy Posted: February 12, 2014 at 04:14 PM (#4655766)
You folks need to use the ignore feature on trolls.
   39. theboyqueen Posted: February 12, 2014 at 04:21 PM (#4655772)
Why anyone in this day and age would be so invested in the idea that their hero player is the ONE GUY who is above any and all reproach regarding PED use is, frankly, a little insane to me.

And only broke people ride the subway? Most broke people can't afford to live in the kinds of cities that have subway systems.
   40. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: February 12, 2014 at 04:27 PM (#4655777)
You folks need to use the ignore feature on trolls.

I'd be happy if they simply stopped quoting Kevin, which overrides anyone else's sensible ignoring of him.
   41. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: February 12, 2014 at 07:08 PM (#4655894)
The fact Pujols chose to pursue it makes me think "he doth protest too much". Hit a nerve there.


That sounds like the sort of argument that a pedophile would make.
   42. Tippecanoe Posted: February 12, 2014 at 08:14 PM (#4655931)
Why anyone in this day and age would be so invested in the idea that their hero player is the ONE GUY who is above any and all reproach regarding PED use is, frankly, a little insane to me


Well, fan is short for fanatic. Besides, being invested is more fun; detached and cynical is a drag.

I feel like there must be a Star Trek quote that applies here.

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