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ALCS Game 1 OMNICHATTER, for October 13, 2017

Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: October 13, 2017 at 06:50 PM | 88 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. salvomania Posted: October 13, 2017 at 07:05 PM (#5553581)
Rooting for some good baseball. In a timely manner.
   2. Tim D Posted: October 13, 2017 at 07:05 PM (#5553582)
Hopefully it will last less than last night's 4:37 (for nine innings). I need some sleep.
   3. bunyon Posted: October 13, 2017 at 07:07 PM (#5553585)
I was disappointed they didn't catch 4:45. A little rally in the 9th would have done it, with or without runs. I mean, they needed 8 minutes. That is, what? Three pitches and a couple of mound visits?
   4. Joe Bivens is NOT a clueless numpty Posted: October 13, 2017 at 07:11 PM (#5553592)
I'll be watching at work, hopefully (If I can access the game via my F I O S account). But I get out at midnight so chop chop under 4 hiours please.
   5. The Yankee Clapper Posted: October 13, 2017 at 07:33 PM (#5553599)
It falls just a bit short as a rallying cry:
You tell that son of a ##### no Yankee is ever comin' to Houston. Not as long as you bastards are running things.

Thank God the Costanza era didn't last long.
   6. BDC Posted: October 13, 2017 at 07:38 PM (#5553602)
The Astros have of course never played in an ALCS before, but they were in four great NLCS over the years: 1980 against Philadelphia, 1986 against the Mets, and the mid-2000s match and rematch against St. Louis. On form I would expect salvomania's wish in #1 to be granted, at least on the good baseball front.
   7. McCoy Posted: October 13, 2017 at 07:40 PM (#5553604)
I'm at work for another 5.5 hours but unlike yesterday I have little desire to waste the time away watching a baseball game.
   8. PreservedFish Posted: October 13, 2017 at 07:43 PM (#5553605)
I wish I could enjoy the Yankees - they have an interesting and entertaining team - but I can't cross that bridge.
   9. Sunday silence Posted: October 13, 2017 at 08:05 PM (#5553613)
SABERMETRIC FRIENDLY CHECKLIST

with some explanation of certain entries:

[ ] Error (or bad fielding) on ground ball w/ men on base

Explanation: data show that errors on GBs about double with men on base, in certain base/out situations they more than double.

[ ] Erratic pitch after inning pitch count >19;
....[ ] failure to remove erratic pitcher leads to run.

Explanation: I am starting to notice this phenomenon more and I want to look closer at this as a way to try to determine when pitchers should be removed and/or if it may give us insight into when a pitcher is done.

[ ] failed attempt to get lead runner on bunt leads to run;

Expl: Again, something I dont think defensive metrics really account for but it may play a more important part in close games. Its interesting cause even if something doenst happen often, when it does happen it may have more impact, hence it tends to be underlooked as a factor.

[ ] bad fielding/non error leads to tying or go ahead run

Expl: again people seem to down play fielding range as an important metric but I like to keep track of how often this occurs.

The rest are more like fun/interesting

[ ] Misplays ball off a wall

[ ] no attempt to avoid HBP

[ ] miscommunciation leads to runner

[ ] productive out leads to tying or go ahead

[ ] injury on basepaths.

[ ] outfield throw holds runner,

[ ] fans get involved in play
   10. Man o' Schwar Posted: October 13, 2017 at 08:21 PM (#5553618)
I wish I could enjoy the Yankees - they have an interesting and entertaining team - but I can't cross that bridge.

I think the Yankees will go the way of the 2015 Cubs - it's a year too early.
   11. Infinite Yost (Voxter) Posted: October 13, 2017 at 08:36 PM (#5553621)
I'm kind of surprised that Keuchel found the groove again. I had that Cy Young year figured as a total fluke.
   12. AT-AT at bat@AT&T Posted: October 13, 2017 at 08:37 PM (#5553622)
My BELOVED YANKEES !
Sweep them stinky Astros !
   13. AT-AT at bat@AT&T Posted: October 13, 2017 at 08:40 PM (#5553625)
315 down the line ? Judge and Sanchez should bunt it over the wall !

Back 2 Back homerun bunts !
   14. AT-AT at bat@AT&T Posted: October 13, 2017 at 08:45 PM (#5553627)
Let's jinx this double no-hitter, before it gets too late ! JINX JINX
NO NO PERFECT GAME NO !
   15. AT-AT at bat@AT&T Posted: October 13, 2017 at 08:47 PM (#5553629)
And who the hell is sundaysilence, doing some weird, half-assed checklist ?
#### off, you amateur !
   16. AT-AT at bat@AT&T Posted: October 13, 2017 at 08:51 PM (#5553631)
Gardner, you are becoming my all-time favorite Yankee !

Okay, you throw like a West Side Story latina, but your attitude is awesome !
   17. The Yankee Clapper Posted: October 13, 2017 at 08:51 PM (#5553632)
Well done, #14.
   18. Infinite Yost (Voxter) Posted: October 13, 2017 at 08:52 PM (#5553634)
For a beard that is obviously carefully curated, Keuchel's is really gross.
   19. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: October 13, 2017 at 08:53 PM (#5553635)
wonderful after the fact analysis:

outside pitch hit for a single "he left it up"

outside pitch with a weak pop-up "he kept it away from him"
   20. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: October 13, 2017 at 08:54 PM (#5553636)
Strike 2 was BS.
   21. Count Vorror Rairol Mencoon (CoB) Posted: October 13, 2017 at 08:56 PM (#5553639)
Okay, you throw like a West Side Story latina, but your attitude is awesome !


No, that's Ellsbury.

Gardner is above league average in Hold and Thrown Out percentage for AL LF.

You're welcome.
   22. AT-AT at bat@AT&T Posted: October 13, 2017 at 08:57 PM (#5553640)
I am not even sure, if airport security will let Keuchel in to NYC !
Just send him back to ...Keuchelstan !


   23. Count Vorror Rairol Mencoon (CoB) Posted: October 13, 2017 at 08:57 PM (#5553641)
Strike 2 was BS.


Indeed, bring on the ####### robots.
   24. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: October 13, 2017 at 08:58 PM (#5553642)
Indeed, bring on the ####### Robots.

No mystery why Judge is in a slump. If they give every pitcher 3 inches outside, and 2 inches low, no one can hit.
   25. AT-AT at bat@AT&T Posted: October 13, 2017 at 08:58 PM (#5553644)
Gardner is above league average in Hold and Thrown Out percentage for AL LF.

You're welcome.


Indeed, a big thanks.
But he still LOOKS like a Maria Maria whilst throwing.
   26. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: October 13, 2017 at 08:59 PM (#5553645)
Is it just me, or does Sanchez seem to get hit in the nuts a lot, even for a catcher?
   27. Count Vorror Rairol Mencoon (CoB) Posted: October 13, 2017 at 09:01 PM (#5553646)
Uh, at least Tanaka's using the big part of the ballpark ...
   28. AT-AT at bat@AT&T Posted: October 13, 2017 at 09:01 PM (#5553647)
Oh really ? The hill is gone ?
I liked that hill !

That hill was like 67% of why I ever even watched an Astros game before.

   29. AT-AT at bat@AT&T Posted: October 13, 2017 at 09:10 PM (#5553653)
BS low calls !
Fire that umpire !
   30. Count Vorror Rairol Mencoon (CoB) Posted: October 13, 2017 at 09:13 PM (#5553656)
Damn your eyes, tiny terror tot!
   31. Count Vorror Rairol Mencoon (CoB) Posted: October 13, 2017 at 09:17 PM (#5553660)
Dammit.
   32. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: October 13, 2017 at 09:23 PM (#5553662)
No-hitter over.
   33. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: October 13, 2017 at 09:28 PM (#5553666)
Shutout over.
   34. Count Vorror Rairol Mencoon (CoB) Posted: October 13, 2017 at 09:29 PM (#5553667)
Bah. Hanger from Tanaka.
   35. Count Vorror Rairol Mencoon (CoB) Posted: October 13, 2017 at 09:33 PM (#5553668)
Bah. Hanger from Tanaka.
   36. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: October 13, 2017 at 09:34 PM (#5553669)
Sanchez set up way inside, and the pitch was away. That's a bad miss by Tanaka. I wonder how long a leash he's got.
   37. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: October 13, 2017 at 09:36 PM (#5553670)
Sanchez set up way inside, and the pitch was away. That's a bad miss by Tanaka. I wonder how long a leash he's got.


Time to warm up Wade Davis.
   38. Howie Menckel Posted: October 13, 2017 at 09:36 PM (#5553671)
love Altuve

I'm too short? take this!

baseball's honey badger
   39. Count Vorror Rairol Mencoon (CoB) Posted: October 13, 2017 at 09:40 PM (#5553674)
hah! Tiny Tot of Error!
   40. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: October 13, 2017 at 09:40 PM (#5553675)
On cue, Altuve rushes the transfer.
   41. Infinite Yost (Voxter) Posted: October 13, 2017 at 09:49 PM (#5553680)
That was a decent throw.
   42. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: October 13, 2017 at 09:50 PM (#5553682)
Helluva throw.
   43. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: October 13, 2017 at 09:50 PM (#5553683)
Took a perfect throw to beat him, and it's great to see Judge snap out of it.
   44. Count Vorror Rairol Mencoon (CoB) Posted: October 13, 2017 at 09:51 PM (#5553684)
Son of a #####.
   45. Count Vorror Rairol Mencoon (CoB) Posted: October 13, 2017 at 09:56 PM (#5553686)
and it's great to see Judge snap out of it.


Well ...
   46. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: October 13, 2017 at 09:59 PM (#5553688)
Better than the usual alternative.
   47. Count Vorror Rairol Mencoon (CoB) Posted: October 13, 2017 at 10:01 PM (#5553689)
For a beard that is obviously carefully curated, Keuchel's is really gross.


He's quietly planning for the inevitable remake of Gettysburg ...
   48. Count Vorror Rairol Mencoon (CoB) Posted: October 13, 2017 at 10:02 PM (#5553690)
Like I said ... the deep part!
   49. Sunday silence Posted: October 13, 2017 at 10:07 PM (#5553693)
[x ] Error (or bad fielding) on ground ball w/ men on base (Altuve, 5th)
   50. Sunday silence Posted: October 13, 2017 at 10:09 PM (#5553694)
[ x] outfield assist (Gonzalez, 5th)
   51. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: October 13, 2017 at 10:09 PM (#5553695)
He's quietly planning for the inevitable remake of Gettysburg ...
Gettysburg 2: Havana Nights
   52. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: October 13, 2017 at 10:12 PM (#5553697)
Houston's turned some sweet defensive gems tonight.
   53. Sunday silence Posted: October 13, 2017 at 10:13 PM (#5553698)
If he played in the 1960s, Judge would be...


Frank Howard, probably the best guess.
   54. Count Vorror Rairol Mencoon (CoB) Posted: October 13, 2017 at 10:16 PM (#5553700)
Zoinks ... Tanaka was about 6 inches from ... well, do pitchers wear cups in the majors?

I know I never did when I pitched ...
   55. The Yankee Clapper Posted: October 13, 2017 at 10:19 PM (#5553701)
If he played in the 1960s, Judge would be... Frank Howard, probably the best guess.

Judge is a lot more nimble than I remember Howard being. Granted, it's been a long time, I didn't see that much of Howard, and wasn't focusing on him, but Howard earned the description "lumbering" early in his career, and that doesn't fit Judge.
   56. Count Vorror Rairol Mencoon (CoB) Posted: October 13, 2017 at 10:22 PM (#5553703)
Judge reminds me of Winfield ...
   57. The Yankee Clapper Posted: October 13, 2017 at 10:23 PM (#5553704)
. . . do pitchers wear cups in the majors?

The smart ones do. A MLB pitcher had a testicle crushed by a line drive about 10-15 years ago, which may have increased defensive precautions.
   58. Sunday silence Posted: October 13, 2017 at 10:30 PM (#5553707)
Judge is a lot more nimble than I remember Howard being. Granted, it's been a long time, I didn't see that much of Howard, and wasn't focusing on him, but Howard earned the description "lumbering" early in his career, and that doesn't fit Judge.


Right, I was thinking of that. Howard is the only guy I can think of w/ unusual size and top tier power. He had some speed when he first came up but I think you're right he's not the kind of OF Judge is...

Hmmm....

Oh my God, yes WInfield is an excellent comp. For the 70s, but yeah...
   59. The Yankee Clapper Posted: October 13, 2017 at 10:35 PM (#5553709)
OK, It was more like 20 years ago. WARNING! NOT FOR THE SQUEAMISH:
In 1997, Manzanillo suffered a grisly injury while pitching for the Seattle Mariners. Not wearing a protective cup, he was struck in the groin by a line drive off the bat of Manny Ramírez which ruptured his testicles. Manzanillo managed to recover the baseball, throw out Jim Thome at home plate and jog off the field under his own power before undergoing emergency reconstructive surgery.

No cup = no brain.
   60. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: October 13, 2017 at 10:35 PM (#5553710)
I don't think any human being could've hit that last strike on Bird. That motherfukker broke like a wiffle ball.
   61. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: October 13, 2017 at 10:39 PM (#5553714)

Oh my God, yes WInfield is an excellent comp. For the 70s, but yeah...

I can't think of a better comparison, but Judge is more than 60 lbs. heavier, with more power but also far less plate discipline.
   62. Sunday silence Posted: October 13, 2017 at 10:47 PM (#5553718)
I guess maybe McCovey is Judge's 60s doppelganger. He went 6'4" and led the league in HRs at age 25. He doesnt run as well as Judge but hes kinda similar.
   63. bunyon Posted: October 13, 2017 at 10:47 PM (#5553720)
In 1997, Manzanillo suffered a grisly injury while pitching for the Seattle Mariners. Not wearing a protective cup, he was struck in the groin by a line drive off the bat of Manny Ramírez which ruptured his testicles. Manzanillo managed to recover the baseball, throw out Jim Thome at home plate and jog off the field under his own power before undergoing emergency reconstructive surgery.

If we'd had replay then they would have reviewed to see if he threw the right ball home.
   64. Count Vorror Rairol Mencoon (CoB) Posted: October 13, 2017 at 10:48 PM (#5553721)
[59] Didn't remember that one, just the Beltre incident.

Still, I do wonder how many pitchers actually DO wear cups ...
   65. The Yankee Clapper Posted: October 13, 2017 at 10:49 PM (#5553722)
Judge is a rookie. He may get better, although in his entire career Winfield never had an OB% as high as what Judge had this season. Scary.
   66. Sunday silence Posted: October 13, 2017 at 10:49 PM (#5553723)
Goodness who would Altuve's 60s comp be???
   67. Count Vorror Rairol Mencoon (CoB) Posted: October 13, 2017 at 10:53 PM (#5553725)
Joe Morgan?

(though the comparison is best for 70's Joe Morgan)
   68. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: October 13, 2017 at 10:54 PM (#5553726)
Rod Carew? Only a few years in the 60s, but Sir Rodney feels like a pretty solid comp.
   69. The Yankee Clapper Posted: October 13, 2017 at 10:55 PM (#5553727)
Not sure there is a good 60's comp for Altuve - maybe Joe Morgan, who might be more 1970s?
   70. Sunday silence Posted: October 13, 2017 at 11:08 PM (#5553733)
Altuve has more power than Carew, or no...? I was thinking Morgan but.
   71. Count Vorror Rairol Mencoon (CoB) Posted: October 13, 2017 at 11:14 PM (#5553736)
Tiny Terror Tot is PISSING me off.
   72. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: October 13, 2017 at 11:18 PM (#5553738)
Morgan's an excellent comp for Altuve in terms of skill sets and size, but he never hit for average like Altuve does. Altuve has a higher HR rate, but a lot of that's probably due to era and home park factors.
   73. Sunday silence Posted: October 13, 2017 at 11:18 PM (#5553739)
I think he's more like Morgan as hes almost the same height (carew is listed as 6') and if Morgan wasnt playing in the Astrodome his power might be similar to ALtuve's last few seasons. Carew stole home a lot but he doesnt have the SB numbers of Morgan/Altuve.

have a coke...
   74. Joe Bivens is NOT a clueless numpty Posted: October 13, 2017 at 11:20 PM (#5553742)
Nice quick game. I hope I didn't just jinx it.
   75. Sunday silence Posted: October 13, 2017 at 11:27 PM (#5553744)
it would probably be relevvant to have a check box for beating the shift by going the other way. Weiters did it yesterday with a bunt if I recall.
   76. Count Vorror Rairol Mencoon (CoB) Posted: October 13, 2017 at 11:27 PM (#5553745)
ME LOVE YOU BIRD!!!
   77. bunyon Posted: October 13, 2017 at 11:27 PM (#5553746)
Nope, doesn't look fatigued at all.
   78. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: October 13, 2017 at 11:27 PM (#5553747)
Ellsbury shouldn't have any problem duplicating that.
   79. Sunday silence Posted: October 13, 2017 at 11:27 PM (#5553748)
[x] late inning HR...damn
   80. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: October 13, 2017 at 11:29 PM (#5553749)
Surely the Astros have to be stoked to see Ellsbury as NY last hope?
   81. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: October 13, 2017 at 11:30 PM (#5553751)
Yep, Ellsbury still stinks.
   82. Infinite Yost (Voxter) Posted: October 13, 2017 at 11:30 PM (#5553752)
Jacoby Ellsbury. A curse upon the Yankees.
   83. Count Vorror Rairol Mencoon (CoB) Posted: October 13, 2017 at 11:32 PM (#5553753)
Well, Yankees couldn't overcome Keuchel and the Tiny Terror Tot.
   84. bunyon Posted: October 13, 2017 at 11:32 PM (#5553754)
If Ellsbury stinks for that last K, pretty much every Yankee stinks.

Easier said than done but, geez, lay off that stuff.
   85. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: October 13, 2017 at 11:43 PM (#5553757)
A few optimistic notes about tonight:

1. Tanaka pitched his first good game against Houston---63 game score.
2. Bird gets better with almost every game. A single and a tape measure job against the Astros' best starter and best reliever.
3. Judge got a hit and a walk and only struck out once.
4. Keuchel can only start once more.
5. Verlander hasn't been all that great against the Yanks.

But I've got no idea what to do about that Tiny Terror Tot, except maybe kidnap him and hold him until the end of the series.
   86. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: October 14, 2017 at 10:55 AM (#5553808)
Does anyone know if BBC still roots for the Astros, or did she actually follow through on her threat to forswear when they switched leagues. Because this club is pretty great.
   87. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: October 14, 2017 at 11:03 AM (#5553811)
Does anyone know if BBC still roots for the Astros, or did she actually follow through on her threat to forswear when they switched leagues. Because this club is pretty great.

On Facebook she said they're "not MY Astros", and this was after they cold cocked the Red Sox. She really does hate the DH.
   88. BDC Posted: October 14, 2017 at 11:45 AM (#5553816)
Altuve has a higher HR rate, but a lot of that's probably due to era and home park factors

Altuve has had a couple of seasons in the mid-20s in home runs, and Morgan had four such seasons. Morgan once finished fifth in his league in HR, and tenth on two other occasions. Altuve finished 38th in 2016 and 40th this year (!?!)

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