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ALCS Notebook: Cashman on Yankee Analytics, Luhnow on Hiring Hinch | FanGraphs Baseball

He might actually be the perfect fit in Boston after all.

On Monday, Hinch called Alex Cora (a former infielder) “the hottest managerial candidate on the planet and deservedly so.” Shortly before he shared that hard-to-argue-with opinion, Carlos Beltran weighed in on the Astros’ bench coach:

“Alex brings a lot to the table. He’s a guy that always is looking for information that he could use against the opposite team [and] he provides that information to the players. He has good communication with the guys, he respects the guys. He’s always in the clubhouse getting to know the players, getting to know which buttons he could push on each player to make them go out there and play the game hard.

“Sometimes managers draw a very defined line between players and the manager. Sometimes they get caught up not going to the clubhouse because they don’t want to feel like they’re invading their space. But as a player, I love when managers come to the clubhouse, sit down, talk to us, get to know us, ask about our family, about everything. That, for me, means a lot. Alex does that real well.”

Jim Furtado Posted: October 18, 2017 at 01:29 PM | 19 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: astros, playoffs, yankees

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   1. There are no words... (Met Fan Charlie) Posted: October 19, 2017 at 03:03 PM (#5558201)
Cora & Beltran were teammates on the 2009-10 Mets.

Just sayin'.
   2. The Yankee Clapper Posted: October 19, 2017 at 03:22 PM (#5558211)
Cora seems to this year's highly touted managerial prospect, which probably means that he's good with the media and those in the baseball industry. Talks a good game at least, but it wasn't long ago that Manny Acta, Fredi Gonzalez, and Eric Wedge were similarly well-regarded, and none of those guys were successful in the long run. It's a tough business, and even the obvious hires don't come with guarantees.

Everyone seems to want to interview Cora, so he may have his pick of offers. Boston may be the most likely team to contend, so he probably ends up there, although he should be warned that the old maxim that any manager who wins a World Series for the Red Sox would enjoy lifetime tenure has been thoroughly discredited.
   3. The Yankee Clapper Posted: October 19, 2017 at 04:13 PM (#5558276)
Is Brian Cashman already the MLB Executive of the Year, or do the Yankees have to reach or win the World Series? Might be affected by how the voters feel about moves made last year that came to fruition this year, but hasn't that always been considered?
   4. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: October 19, 2017 at 04:28 PM (#5558299)
Is Brian Cashman already the MLB Executive of the Year, or do the Yankees have to reach or win the World Series? Might be affected by how the voters feel about moves made last year that came to fruition this year, but hasn't that always been considered?

The only thing that would stop Cashman from winning that award would be the residual thought that the Yankees only win by throwing money around, regardless of what their current roster says about that theory.
   5. jmurph Posted: October 19, 2017 at 04:33 PM (#5558303)
The only thing that would stop Cashman from winning that award would be the residual thought that the Yankees only win by throwing money around, regardless of what their current roster says about that theory.

(They have the second highest payroll in baseball.)
   6. Fat Al Posted: October 19, 2017 at 04:34 PM (#5558304)
The only thing that would stop Cashman from winning that award would be the residual thought that the Yankees only win by throwing money around, regardless of what their current roster says about that theory.


With the caveat that I don't know what the fair lookback period is for that award, the Chapman re-signing and the Ellsbury deal (and perhaps Headley) are pretty significant counterweights to the very good stuff that has been done recently.
   7. fra paolo Posted: October 19, 2017 at 04:45 PM (#5558314)
Talks a good game at least, but it wasn't long ago that Manny Acta, Fredi Gonzalez, and Eric Wedge were similarly well-regarded, and none of those guys were successful in the long run.

Claims that Fredi Gonzalez is the favourite for the Tigers' job suggest that he's the best bet for getting another chance, although he'll have to wait around for a bit to be successful, I should think.

(He's also got a managerial record with an above .500 winning percentage, which is more than Acta or Wedge could boast. The next two seasons with the Tigers might fix that, though.)
   8. The Yankee Clapper Posted: October 19, 2017 at 05:23 PM (#5558335)
They have the second highest payroll in baseball.

Only if you don't count the folks that Red Sox moved off their 40-man roster when they were exiled to the minors but are still obligated to pay, an accounting device that MLB apparently no longer allows. In any event, the payroll doesn't seem especially relevant to success that is tied to the development of inexpensive young players such as Judge, Sanchez, Severino, Bird & Hicks. I suppose one can argue that you have to still give some demerits because they're paying A-Rod this year, and have several years to go on Ellsbury, but I thought the award was based on on-field success, not the owners profits, as indicated by Jeffrey Loria not winning every year?
   9. Satan Says Posted: October 19, 2017 at 05:48 PM (#5558348)
Be interesting if they work out a deal with Sabathia in thr offseason. Even if he goes belly up, I'd do it for a reasonable sum.

Not sure he'll get more elsewhere.
   10. Moses Taylor, aka Hambone Fakenameington Posted: October 19, 2017 at 05:51 PM (#5558353)
Claims that Fredi Gonzalez is the favourite for the Tigers' job suggest that he's the best bet for getting another chance, although he'll have to wait around for a bit to be successful, I should think.

Supposedly the Tigers are hiring Gardenhire, so that favorite status didn't last long for Fredi.
   11. Nose army. Beef diaper? (CoB) Posted: October 19, 2017 at 06:25 PM (#5558374)
Be interesting if they work out a deal with Sabathia in thr offseason.


I think there's mutual interest there. I imagine both parties would be fine with the "Pettitte plan" going forward.
   12. Walt Davis Posted: October 19, 2017 at 06:45 PM (#5558388)
If you were going to award a front office for developing young players, turning a franchise around, making good trades and signings and reaching the top ... wouldn't you just give it to Luhnow? Or the guy in Cleveland? Or the feelgood Twins?
   13. jmurph Posted: October 19, 2017 at 07:16 PM (#5558401)
Only if you don't count the folks that Red Sox moved off their 40-man roster when they were exiled to the minors but are still obligated to pay, an accounting device that MLB apparently no longer allows. In any event, the payroll doesn't seem especially relevant to success that is tied to the development of inexpensive young players such as Judge, Sanchez, Severino, Bird & Hicks. I suppose one can argue that you have to still give some demerits because they're paying A-Rod this year, and have several years to go on Ellsbury, but I thought the award was based on on-field success, not the owners profits, as indicated by Jeffrey Loria not winning every year?

(They have the 2nd highest 25 man payroll in baseball.)
(These things are searchable.)
   14. You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR) Posted: October 19, 2017 at 07:38 PM (#5558406)
And golly, all that Rodriguez money really helped put the team over the top!

Of course Mr Cashman deserves awards for the outstanding job he has done creating a new Yankee juggernaut that has already exceeded expectations tenfold. But Mr. Cashman is a true Yankee. Individual awards mean nothing when compared to team accomplishments. If the Yankees win the World Series you can give the award to Jeffrey Loria for all he'll care.
   15. The Yankee Clapper Posted: October 19, 2017 at 07:48 PM (#5558413)
If you were going to award a front office for developing young players, turning a franchise around, making good trades and signings and reaching the top ... wouldn't you just give it to Luhnow? Or the guy in Cleveland? Or the feelgood Twins?

Isn't exceeding expectations a factor in these things? Almost no one picked the Yankees to do anything this season, including the pundits and projection systems. PECOTA had the Yankees going 80-82, the Astros 93-69, and the Indians, last season's pennant winner, 92-70.
   16. jmurph Posted: October 19, 2017 at 08:17 PM (#5558434)
I imagine Cashman is among the top couple of favorites, he made some great in-season moves that paid off. But you don't need to pretend they didn't spend this year, they did. Tanaka makes more than Houston's entire infield. Also, one last time:

And golly, all that Rodriguez money really helped put the team over the top!

Obviously ARod doesn't count against their 25 man payroll, which is, again, the 2nd highest in baseball.
   17. The Yankee Clapper Posted: October 19, 2017 at 08:36 PM (#5558465)
Obviously ARod doesn't count against their 25 man payroll, which is, again, the 2nd highest in baseball.

That's incorrect about A-Rod, according to previous reports in this space. And it has also been reported here that Boston's payments to Runy Castillo & Allen Craig don't count against the Red Sox payroll because of how they were outrighted after clearing waivers. Why there is a distinction there is lost on me, and apparently MLB has since changed its policy to count such payments toward the luxury tax threshold for future moves of that type.
   18. jmurph Posted: October 19, 2017 at 08:44 PM (#5558479)
This site tracks realtime payrolls. They have a 25 man category, which is the current, active roster. You're welcome to kick around with it, But none of it has anything do with the Red Sox point you keep trying to make. Also ARod is obviously not recorded here against their 25 man, they have that in a separate category ("Retained").
   19. jmurph Posted: October 19, 2017 at 08:45 PM (#5558482)
Also you're welcome to call me out if I ever pretend the Red Sox don't spend a lot of money on their team. They do, and I'm grateful for it!

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