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Tuesday, September 03, 2019

Alex Rodriguez got crushed for his bizarre take on even and odd leads

Alex Rodriguez was a great baseball player, even if he was juiced up for much of his career.

But he struggles as an announcer, which anyone who has watched even a little bit of a Sunday Night Baseball broadcast can attest too.

If ESPN is not forcing a wacky appearance by his girlfriend, Jennifer Lopez, then A-Rod can often be found rambling on and on and on and not always making sense.

That happened during Sunday night’s Mets-Phillies game when he suggested the Phillies drop a sacrifice bunt to get a runner to third because it could help the team eventually get a two-run lead.

Clearly, he’s been taking J. Geils Band albums to heart.

 

QLE Posted: September 03, 2019 at 12:33 AM | 34 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: alex rodriguez, bad ideas, leads

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   1. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: September 03, 2019 at 10:34 AM (#5876414)
Someone had to out-Harold Reynolds Harold Reynolds.
   2. PreservedFish Posted: September 03, 2019 at 10:43 AM (#5876418)
While waiting at a doctor's office I saw J.Lo on some daytime show gushing about ARod. They have clearly launched a serious PR push around their united brand. I couldn't possibly imagine sitting down with a marketing team and going over a strategy to market my relationship as heavily as possible. What strange people these celebrities are.
   3. Jose is an Absurd Time Cube Posted: September 03, 2019 at 11:00 AM (#5876421)
I kind of get what A-Rod was saying. It wasn’t elegantly stated but every run lead from 1-4 has a pretty substantial jump in win expectancy. The even run thing is nonsense but improving a lead is a good thing and I suspect what he was saying is the kind of cliched stuff that gets spouted in a dugout on a daily basis.
   4. Jose is an Absurd Time Cube Posted: September 03, 2019 at 11:07 AM (#5876423)
I couldn't possibly imagine sitting down with a marketing team and going over a strategy to market my relationship as heavily as possible. What strange people these celebrities are.


Yeah, it’s got to be such a bizarre existence. I can’t imagine what it must be like to live your life in the public eye. Like on the one hand yeah hiring a PR agency to publicize your personal life is odd but on the other hand if you are going to be dissected in the press regularly you’d probably want someone who knows what they are doing.
   5. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: September 03, 2019 at 11:08 AM (#5876424)
To me the weirdest (ok, at least one of the weirder) things that ARod does is when they're showing a replay of an inning-ending play and going to commercial, he'll wait until way after Mendoza and Vasgergian have stopped talking, and then just before the broadcast cuts away, he'll interject with some one-word comment on the play. The most recent I remember is "SMOKE!" for a strikeout on a fastball. That's odd, but what makes it odder is that he always uses this quasi-pirate growl. I've heard him do this multiple times.
   6. TomH Posted: September 03, 2019 at 11:09 AM (#5876427)
Not trying to defend A-Rod's silliness, but Has anyone performed a study based on recent years (such as 2018-19) run distribution? Perhaps runs are scored single-vs-bunches differently in the homer-happy/low-single game we have now. After all, taken to the extreme, an offense of 4 runs per game on all solo dingers would mean runs are scored more often in one-sies, which would make getting a ONE run lead far far more impt than pushing a 3-run to a 4-run lead, for example.
   7. Itchy Row Posted: September 03, 2019 at 11:14 AM (#5876430)
He meant to say "Get a secondary lead."
   8. PreservedFish Posted: September 03, 2019 at 11:31 AM (#5876434)
Yeah, it’s got to be such a bizarre existence. I can’t imagine what it must be like to live your life in the public eye. Like on the one hand yeah hiring a PR agency to publicize your personal life is odd but on the other hand if you are going to be dissected in the press regularly you’d probably want someone who knows what they are doing.


I presume they have some big financial interests in this - planning to launch a lifestyle brand, or cologne, fashion, something.
   9. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: September 03, 2019 at 11:47 AM (#5876439)
Yeah, it’s got to be such a bizarre existence. I can’t imagine what it must be like to live your life in the public eye. Like on the one hand yeah hiring a PR agency to publicize your personal life is odd but on the other hand if you are going to be dissected in the press regularly you’d probably want someone who knows what they are doing.

There's a huge range of how public that life needs to be. ARod and JLo seems to be on the extreme of getting all the publicity humanly possible.
   10. gef, talking mongoose & vexatious litigant Posted: September 03, 2019 at 12:01 PM (#5876442)
just before the broadcast cuts away, he'll interject with some one-word comment on the play. The most recent I remember is "SMOKE!" for a strikeout on a fastball. That's odd, but what makes it odder is that he always uses this quasi-pirate growl. I've heard him do this multiple times.


Pretty sure those are the lunatic's cries -- neighs? -- for help.
   11. Mellow Mouse, Benevolent Space Tyrant Posted: September 03, 2019 at 12:42 PM (#5876448)
ARod, Centaur of Attention.
   12. Cris E Posted: September 03, 2019 at 01:55 PM (#5876459)
+1 Mouse. Well done.
   13. Ziggy is done with Dominican discotheques Posted: September 03, 2019 at 02:04 PM (#5876461)
So would this work?

Say you're rich and famous, but you don't much like the idea of living in a walled compound or on a remote island. What if you bought a nice middle-class house, drove a Camry, coached little league, and told everyone that you were Mr. and Mrs. Smith. Sure, sure, you look like that really rich and famous couple, and isn't it kind of you to say so, but really, it's just a coincidence. You tell everyone you have some job that is so amazing boring that no one will ask for details (got to keep the lies simple). And you legit drive the Camry and live in your split level, and you really do have neighbors over to your totally normal house. I mean, yeah, you don't get to enjoy the luxuries of being rich, and you can't hang out with Bono or whatever. And I imagine some creative bookkeeping would be required to, eg, not have the deed to the house in your name. But could you do it?
   14. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: September 03, 2019 at 02:08 PM (#5876463)
No way. The paparazzi would follow you home from work or public appearances and camp out on your lawn.
   15. Barry`s_Lazy_Boy Posted: September 03, 2019 at 02:11 PM (#5876465)
I suspect what he was saying is the kind of cliched stuff that gets spouted in a dugout on a daily basis.

Agreed. This is more of a look at some of the thinking that goes on inside baseball, rather than just ARod himself.

These same guys wear those magnets to improve blood flow, and you can bet that 98% of them don't believe climate change.
   16. Hank Gillette Posted: September 03, 2019 at 02:33 PM (#5876470)
These same guys wear those magnets to improve blood flow, and you can bet that 98% of them don't believe climate change.


Also copper bracelets, and I wouldn’t be surprised if more than half have never heard of climate change (except for Mike Trout, who will probably be doing off-season seminars on climate change).
   17. The Good Face Posted: September 03, 2019 at 02:54 PM (#5876473)
So would this work?

Say you're rich and famous, but you don't much like the idea of living in a walled compound or on a remote island. What if you bought a nice middle-class house, drove a Camry, coached little league, and told everyone that you were Mr. and Mrs. Smith. Sure, sure, you look like that really rich and famous couple, and isn't it kind of you to say so, but really, it's just a coincidence. You tell everyone you have some job that is so amazing boring that no one will ask for details (got to keep the lies simple). And you legit drive the Camry and live in your split level, and you really do have neighbors over to your totally normal house. I mean, yeah, you don't get to enjoy the luxuries of being rich, and you can't hang out with Bono or whatever. And I imagine some creative bookkeeping would be required to, eg, not have the deed to the house in your name. But could you do it?


Depends on how rich and famous you were. Tom Cruise, LeBron James or A-Rod/J-Lo? Probably not. But a more "ordinary" level of rich and famous? Sure. People mostly see what they expect to see. If you looked and acted the part, most folks would probably buy your story.

It's not uncommon to see celebrities post on social media that somebody approached them and told them they looked a lot like themselves, whereupon they simply answer something to the effect of, "Yeah, I get that a lot" and the interaction ends.
   18. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: September 03, 2019 at 03:01 PM (#5876476)
No way. The paparazzi would follow you home from work or public appearances and camp out on your lawn.

Right and you'd presumably have to register your kids for school under their real names.

But it's not like you need to be super-rich to live in a gated community or a doorman apartment building. That won't completely insulate you from fans / paparazzi but I honestly think a lot of that stuff is overblown, unless you're someone like A-Rod who cultivates it.
   19. bunyon Posted: September 03, 2019 at 03:22 PM (#5876482)
It's been my impression that you can, for the most part, stay out of the paparazzi's interest by being very bland off-camera, or at least maintaining the appearance of blandness.

A good example is in this thread. Mike Trout could absolutely pull this off. You end up in the tabloids mostly because you want to end up in the tabloids. Maybe it was an uninformed choice when you were in your 20s trying to build a career and it's hard to get out of the cycle but if you just don't give the beast any air, it doesn't go anywhere.

   20. Athletic Supporter is USDA certified lean Posted: September 03, 2019 at 03:23 PM (#5876483)
This is not really the exact same situation, but I live in the same medium-size neighborhood as one of the Bachelors. He lives a pretty normal life as far as I can tell and doesn't get mobbed or really recognized at all, but when he posts in our neighborhood Facebook group and people see his name he will inevitably get one or two comments like "hey, wait a second, are you ____ from the Bachelor?"
   21. Traderdave Posted: September 03, 2019 at 03:36 PM (#5876490)
Here in the Bay Area there is a surprising number of people who are 8 and occasionally 9 figure rich, most commonly from tech stock options, and live fairly ordinary lives. They drive Teslas instead of Camrys and their houses are a bit bigger and a bit nicer than others but they are decidedly non ostentatious. They show up for PTA meetings and do their own yard work, and other assorted marks of middle class normality.
   22. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: September 03, 2019 at 03:52 PM (#5876495)
Here in the Bay Area there is a surprising number of people who are 8 and occasionally 9 figure rich, most commonly from tech stock options, and live fairly ordinary lives. They drive Teslas instead of Camrys and their houses are a bit bigger and a bit nicer than others but they are decidedly non ostentatious.
Wait, you can buy a house in the Bay Area on only an 8-figure income??
   23. Moeball Posted: September 03, 2019 at 05:34 PM (#5876518)
BITD I worked for an investment firm that had Tom Hanks as a client. He would come in to the office a couple of times a year and usually someone's head would pop up and go "was that Tom Hanks? Nah, couldn't be." And nothing more would be said about it.
   24. Greg Pope Posted: September 03, 2019 at 06:03 PM (#5876525)
Probably depends on how you got rich. J-Lo could never pull it off. But if James Dreifort moved in down the street and put his kids in the local elementary or high school, nobody would bat an eye. Nobody would connect him with Darren James Dreifort who made 63 million dollars playing baseball for the Dodgers.
   25. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: September 03, 2019 at 06:06 PM (#5876527)
Probably depends on how you got rich. J-Lo could never pull it off. But if James Dreifort moved in down the street and put his kids in the local elementary or high school, nobody would bat an eye. Nobody would connect him with Darren James Dreifort who made 63 million dollars playing baseball for the Dodgers.
Yeah, but the question was premised on being rich and famous.
   26. Rennie's Tenet Posted: September 03, 2019 at 06:12 PM (#5876531)
The Ann Margrock episode of the Flintstones explores some of these issues.
   27. Zach Posted: September 03, 2019 at 06:29 PM (#5876536)
Paparazzi take pictures in order to sell them. If you're boring or otherwise out of the public eye for a while, the problem will take care of itself.

It's hard to get more famous than Neil Armstrong, but he was able to teach engineering at an ordinary state school for eight years after Apollo. He was kind of a champ at being boring on purpose, though.
   28. Greg Pope Posted: September 03, 2019 at 06:31 PM (#5876537)
Yeah, but the question was premised on being rich and famous.

Ah, good point. It’s the fame more than the rich then. And it's bound to be a sliding scale.
   29. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: September 03, 2019 at 06:43 PM (#5876543)
It's hard to get more famous than Neil Armstrong, but he was able to teach engineering at an ordinary state school for eight years after Apollo. He was kind of a champ at being boring on purpose, though.
Also a very different era, and a very different reason for his fame. These days what, 99%? of famous people are famous because they are in the entertainment industry. That's an entirely different kind of celebrity than the known-and-respected-for-towering-historical-achievement kind - of which we have, proportionally, far fewer now. Seems like that type doesn't really attract "fans" in the same way the entertainers do.
   30. My name is RMc and I feel extremely affected Posted: September 03, 2019 at 08:32 PM (#5876573)
While waiting at a doctor's office I saw J.Lo on some daytime show gushing about ARod. They have clearly launched a serious PR push around their united brand.


Is it A-Lo or J. Rod?
   31. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: September 03, 2019 at 08:41 PM (#5876576)
My wife and I have seen our fair share of celebrities -- on planes, in restaurants, at the gym, etc. David Beckham, Paris Hilton, Chrissy Tiegen, Will Ferrell, Courtney Love, Jon Stewart, Brooke Shields, Chevy Chase, to name a few. These are people who are/were pretty famous and recognizable. Other than a few people who asked Paris Hilton for her autograph (this was during her peak fame years), nobody bothered them.
   32. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: September 03, 2019 at 09:01 PM (#5876585)
So would this work?

Say you're rich and famous, but you don't much like the idea of living in a walled compound or on a remote island. What if you bought a nice middle-class house, drove a Camry, coached little league, and told everyone that you were Mr. and Mrs. Smith. Sure, sure, you look like that really rich and famous couple, and isn't it kind of you to say so, but really, it's just a coincidence. You tell everyone you have some job that is so amazing boring that no one will ask for details (got to keep the lies simple). And you legit drive the Camry and live in your split level, and you really do have neighbors over to your totally normal house. I mean, yeah, you don't get to enjoy the luxuries of being rich, and you can't hang out with Bono or whatever. And I imagine some creative bookkeeping would be required to, eg, not have the deed to the house in your name. But could you do it?


Not that it's really comparable to being a current celebrity, but when Jane Fonda did political canvassing in places like Scranton and Modesto she identified herself only as "Jane", and says that almost nobody who came to the door recognized her. And she doesn't look that much different than she did 20 or 30 years ago.
   33. PreservedFish Posted: September 03, 2019 at 09:04 PM (#5876588)
I think that a high percentage of paparazzi-celebrity interactions and relationships are understood to be mutually beneficial. I suspect that J.Lo could rather quickly disappear from the pages of US Weekly if she so chose.
   34. A triple short of the cycle Posted: September 03, 2019 at 10:47 PM (#5876622)
I don't understand the fetish for celebrities. Or I might understand it, but don't share it. Gosh knows I would not want to be one (unless it helped me get laid). Is it just that people's everyday lives are so boring they need to follow A-Rod and J-Lo? Then again, is it any different than being emotionally invested in a baseball team? I feel conflicted.

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