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Alex Rodriguez shares his four-point plan to save baseball

Rodriguez wants the league and its broadcasters to implement live footage of what’s going on at all times within the ballpark. He wants MLB and Google to come together on sharing background information and social media posts from players. On every month’s first Tuesday, Rodriguez calls on the owners to charge just $10 per ticket.

Rodriguez’s final point is to implement microphones on every player, coach and manager during games. This certainly would appear to be the toughest one to get everyone on-board.

“We should also let fans hear and see players, managers and coaches during the game,” Rodriguez writes. “Imagine listening in on the conversation between Derek Jeter and me before the last three outs at the 2009 World Series. Now that’s great content for any fan.”

RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: July 13, 2017 at 11:12 AM | 46 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. There are no words... (Met Fan Charlie) Posted: July 13, 2017 at 11:22 AM (#5492822)
“Imagine listening in on the conversation between Derek Jeter and me before the last three outs at the 2009 World Series. Now that’s great content for any fan.”


You'd never hear a word: 7/8 of the conversation would be bleeped out. A little bit like watching The Sopranos on A & E, rather than HBO...
   2. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: July 13, 2017 at 11:26 AM (#5492826)
Rodriguez wants the league and its broadcasters to implement live footage of what’s going on at all times within the ballpark.

Allow me to register my objection to the TroughCam.
   3. Barry`s_Lazy_Boy Posted: July 13, 2017 at 11:28 AM (#5492829)
$10 Tuesdays would be a HUUUGE day for scalpers.
   4. Mellow Mouse, Benevolent Space Tyrant Posted: July 13, 2017 at 11:56 AM (#5492855)
Alex Rodriguez shares his four-point plan to save baseball


You have to love a four legged plan from ARod. I mean, right?
   5. Slivers of Maranville descends into chaos (SdeB) Posted: July 13, 2017 at 12:03 PM (#5492861)
$10 Tuesdays would be a HUUUGE day for scalpers.


How so? Require the tickets to be bought in person, you enter immediately upon purchase, and no reentry permitted.
   6. Pat Rapper's Delight (as quoted on MLB Network) Posted: July 13, 2017 at 12:08 PM (#5492868)
You have to love a four legged plan from ARod. I mean, right?

It figures that all of his ideas are pure horseshit.

I'm hard pressed to think to anything more useless in the context of a broadcast than player social media posts.
   7. Russ Posted: July 13, 2017 at 12:16 PM (#5492873)
How so? Require the tickets to be bought in person, you enter immediately upon purchase, and no reentry permitted.


Even better is that you pay regular price for the ticket, but you can then take your ticket to a kiosk inside the park to receive Face Value - $10 worth of certificates to buy food/drink/souvenirs while you are at the stadium that are only good for the day of the game (or later if in the case of rainout). Still saves money for people in non-insanely priced seats (because they generally would be spending that sort of money anyways), but eliminates the scalping angle.


   8. Don August(us) Cesar Geronimo Berroa Posted: July 13, 2017 at 12:46 PM (#5492911)
Rodriguez wants the league and its broadcasters to implement live footage of what’s going on at all times within the ballpark.


Why would anyone want to see this?
   9. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: July 13, 2017 at 12:51 PM (#5492919)
“Imagine listening in on the conversation between Derek Jeter and me before the last three outs at the 2009 World Series. Now that’s great content for any fan.”


Sorry. My guess is both are incredibly boring.
   10. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: July 13, 2017 at 12:56 PM (#5492926)
So nobody does Blue Ribbon Panels anymore? Did Sen. George Mitchell pass away or something?
   11. Pat Rapper's Delight (as quoted on MLB Network) Posted: July 13, 2017 at 12:57 PM (#5492928)
“Imagine listening in on the conversation between Derek Jeter and me before the last three outs at the 2009 World Series. Now that’s great content for any fan.”


"How does it feel way over there at third base knowing that I ran you off your position and that us True Yankees are finally able to carry you to a ring?"

"#### you, #######."
   12. Buck Coats Posted: July 13, 2017 at 01:08 PM (#5492942)
Why would anyone want to see this?


If you haven't seen Tropicana Field at 3 am, you don't know what you're missing
   13. Greg Pope Posted: July 13, 2017 at 01:08 PM (#5492943)
Even better is that you pay regular price for the ticket, but you can then take your ticket to a kiosk inside the park to receive Face Value - $10 worth of certificates to buy food/drink/souvenirs while you are at the stadium that are only good for the day of the game (or later if in the case of rainout). Still saves money for people in non-insanely priced seats (because they generally would be spending that sort of money anyways), but eliminates the scalping angle.

I don't think it does. Under the basic $10 ticket plan the scalper buys the ticket for $10, then sells it to me for $50 because I'm willing to pay $50 to see the game.

Under your plan the ticket is priced at $40, but with $30 in vouchers. The scalper buys it for $40 and then sells it to me for $80 since we both know I'm getting $30 in vouchers once inside the stadium. So I'm still only paying $50 for my ticket and the scalper still gets the same $40 markup.

You'd have to tie the vouchers to having the purchasing credit card or something.
   14. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: July 13, 2017 at 01:36 PM (#5492974)

I'm hard pressed to think to anything more useless in the context of a broadcast than player social media posts.


A-Rod's entire plan is Steve Buschemi on 30 Rock saying "How do you do, fellow kids."
   15. McCoy Posted: July 13, 2017 at 01:38 PM (#5492975)
How so? Require the tickets to be bought in person, you enter immediately upon purchase, and no reentry permitted.

Man, nobody would want to deal with the lines this would cause.
   16. Slivers of Maranville descends into chaos (SdeB) Posted: July 13, 2017 at 01:42 PM (#5492977)

Man, nobody would want to deal with the lines this would cause.


There aren't interminable lines already?

You go up to the metal detector, you hand them exact change, they let you in. No credit cards allowed. Simple.
   17. Urkel's Boner Posted: July 13, 2017 at 01:44 PM (#5492978)
Man, nobody would want to deal with the lines this would cause.


“Nobody ever goes there anymore — it's too crowded.”
   18. McCoy Posted: July 13, 2017 at 01:47 PM (#5492982)
You go up to the metal detector, you hand them exact change, they let you in. No credit cards allowed. Simple.

Not really.

One, cash isn't as ubiquitous as you think it is.
two, doing transactions at the metal detector would be a no-no from a safety standpoint and from a people moving stand point.
three, exact change? That ain't common.
four, you've just increased the labor costs for the team
five, the point of MLB is to make money. Creating a system that fans would find infuriating and actually reduces revenue would be rather silly.

   19. PreservedFish Posted: July 13, 2017 at 01:47 PM (#5492984)
Just let the scalpers make their money. Lots of regular people will get those cheap tickets too, and the $10 face value might help bring down the price of the scalped tickets as well.
   20. Barry`s_Lazy_Boy Posted: July 13, 2017 at 01:48 PM (#5492985)
How so? Require the tickets to be bought in person, you enter immediately upon purchase, and no reentry permitted.

This idea already has zero chance of happening, but expecting the owners to agree to one game a month that is literally 100% walk-up crowd is mind-numbingly stupid. Oh, now they're supposed to be in massive lines holding exact change, without credit cards?

Worst. Idea. Ever.

   21. McCoy Posted: July 13, 2017 at 01:48 PM (#5492986)

“Nobody ever goes there anymore — it's too crowded.”


Well, there is a difference between a sellout crowd of 44,000 and a discount ticket crowd of 25,000. If everybody had to buy $10 tickets thousands would stay away while also still having thousands in line.
   22. McCoy Posted: July 13, 2017 at 01:55 PM (#5492992)
Just let the scalpers make their money. Lots of regular people will get those cheap tickets too, and the $10 face value might help bring down the price of the scalped tickets as well.

doubt it. Scalpers have a lower cost so they will be less inclined to cut a deal because their margins will be so high. If a scalper has a budget to buy 20 $150 tickets a game he'll gladly buy 300 tickets at $10 each.

The Yankees back in the late 90's had a walk up ticket program, might still do-don't know, that the scalpers rigged by paying people to stand in line and gobble up the tickets.

Bottom line is that if there is demand the prices of the ticket on the secondary market will reflect that demand and it will have little to do with the price the scalper paid for the ticket.
   23. PreservedFish Posted: July 13, 2017 at 01:58 PM (#5492996)
Bottom line is that if there is demand the prices of the ticket on the secondary market will reflect that demand and it will have little to do with the price the scalper paid for the ticket.


I'm aware of that, but if everyone knows this as "the $10 game" perhaps people will be less interested in buying from a scalper.
   24. McCoy Posted: July 13, 2017 at 02:03 PM (#5493006)
If there are no good tickets available and you want to go to the game what are you going to do? I mean that is why the prices are what they are on the secondary market.
   25. Cargo Cultist Posted: July 13, 2017 at 02:37 PM (#5493049)
Terrible ideas. But then what could you expect from him?
   26. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: July 13, 2017 at 02:49 PM (#5493069)
If there are no good tickets available and you want to go to the game what are you going to do? I mean that is why the prices are what they are on the secondary market.

Scalpers are not going to buy up 20,000 tickets for a game. They have neither the capital nor the distribution netwrok to take that kind of risk, and re-sell that volume.
   27. PreservedFish Posted: July 13, 2017 at 02:50 PM (#5493071)
I mean that is why the prices are what they are on the secondary market.


To some extent they're influenced by the face value though. You feel like more of a chump paying $50 for a $10 ticket than you do for a $30 ticket, even if the product is the same.
   28. Rally Posted: July 13, 2017 at 03:12 PM (#5493089)
Scalpers are not going to buy up 20,000 tickets for a game. They have neither the capital nor the distribution netwrok to take that kind of risk, and re-sell that volume.


The guys who hang outside the stadiums asking if you need to buy/sell a ticket won't be putting up $200,000 to do that. But maybe a few hundred of them will put up a couple hundred dollars each. And then you've got Stubhub or Ticketmaster, which most certainly have the capital to buy up all the tickets they want.

   29. Baseballs Most Beloved Figure Posted: July 13, 2017 at 03:18 PM (#5493095)
Save it from what, continuing to make money hand over fist?
   30. zenbitz Posted: July 13, 2017 at 04:16 PM (#5493131)
1. Do nothing
2. Collect Underpants.
3. ....
4. Profit!
   31. Ulysses S. Fairsmith Posted: July 13, 2017 at 05:16 PM (#5493164)
Are people actually complaining about the idea of having cheaper tickets sometimes?
   32. Batman Posted: July 13, 2017 at 06:05 PM (#5493179)
Imagine listening in on the conversation between Derek Jeter and me before the last three outs at the 2009 World Series
"One out, Derek!"
"I know."
"OK, Derek, runner on. We can get a force at second."
"Yes, I'm familiar with the rules."
"Two outs now, Derek."
"You don't have to keep saying my name."
"Get a secondary lead, Derek!"
"What?"
   33. The Keith Law Blog Blah Blah (battlekow) Posted: July 13, 2017 at 07:12 PM (#5493213)
You'd have to tie the vouchers to having the purchasing credit card or something.

This is already a thing called "paperless" tickets. Brokers get around it by buying the tickets on a gift card and mailing the gift card to the buyer.

Scalpers are not going to buy up 20,000 tickets for a game. They have neither the capital nor the distribution netwrok to take that kind of risk, and re-sell that volume.

I work in the secondary ticketing industry. Your first statement is (probably) literally true (20,000 is a huge number), but mostly because of the risk--the larger brokers definitely have the capital to buy 20k tickets to a game if they wanted, and the distribution network is massive across a variety of exchanges on the internet.

And then you've got Stubhub or Ticketmaster, which most certainly have the capital to buy up all the tickets they want.

It's a popular misconception that StubHub owns the inventory itself (that it is a broker). StubHub is just a marketplace. They fulfill the orders (charge you and send you the tickets), but they're buying them from the real brokers on the back-end after you order them.
   34. Bote Man Posted: July 13, 2017 at 08:44 PM (#5493252)
I was wondering if there would be some way that the high dollar seats behind home plate could be filled to give the appearance of a vibrant ballpark on TV?

People have pointed out how it looks empty on TV at Yankee Stadium, Nationals Park, and others where there is a "moat" isolating those seats directly behind home plate. Almost all of those are certainly corporate season ticket holders who show up whenever--or not. Could the club sell those unoccupied seats to late-comers and refund some of the season ticket holders with partial proceeds?
   35. Jay Z Posted: July 13, 2017 at 09:25 PM (#5493257)
Are people actually complaining about the idea of having cheaper tickets sometimes?


The scalper thing is daft. It's a random Tuesday.

I looked at the attendance figures for Tuesday, June 28th. One game over 40,000. That was the Giants hosting the A's, so a high demand game. Others were anywhere from 16,000 to 35,000.

The game has to be near capacity for scalpers to buy ALL the tickets and have an impact. A 30,000 crowd is not going to be enough.
   36. Walt Davis Posted: July 14, 2017 at 12:12 AM (#5493305)
“Imagine listening in on the conversation between Derek Jeter and me before the last three outs at the 2009 World Series. Now that’s great content for any fan.”

Hey Alex, what's the name of that doctor you were telling me about?
   37. McCoy Posted: July 14, 2017 at 06:57 AM (#5493329)
The game has to be near capacity for scalpers to buy ALL the tickets and have an impact. A 30,000 crowd is not going to be enough.

There is a finite number of "good" seats. They have to buy those good seats to have an impact and they do regularly buy those tickets.
   38. Tony S Posted: July 14, 2017 at 07:34 AM (#5493335)
There are certainly a few things in baseball that could use some fixing, but the game doesn't need to be "saved" as if it were about to drop into a crater of molten lava. I guess it's a slow week for the writers now that the All-Star Party is done and we're still hours away from that Yankee-Red Sox game...

   39. RMc's Unenviable Situation Posted: July 14, 2017 at 08:43 AM (#5493350)
1. Take steroids.
2. Paint yourself as a centaur.
3. Um...gift baskets?
4. Prophet!
   40. The Duke Posted: July 14, 2017 at 12:51 PM (#5493596)
Just mic up angel Hernandez. I bet all his conversations are unbelievable
   41. LA Podcasting Hombre of Anaheim Posted: July 14, 2017 at 03:37 PM (#5493761)
A-Rod's entire plan is Steve Buschemi on 30 Rock saying "How do you do, fellow kids."
It actually looks like the BTF reaction to Rodriguez's plan is that clip. Feeding the beast of social media and trying to harvest as much live banter as possible, that's exactly the stuff baseball should be doing. That doesn't sound good to the 40-50-60-somethings around here, but fellow kids live for that stuff. In this case, Rodriguez is more right than wrong.
   42. Blastin Posted: July 14, 2017 at 08:48 PM (#5493886)
That doesn't sound good to the 40-50-60-somethings around here, but fellow kids live for that stuff.


Yes, they do. As well as the stuff we hate like videos on mobile and declining sportswriting, etc.
   43. Darren Posted: July 15, 2017 at 10:28 AM (#5493992)
Imagine listening in on the conversation between Derek Jeter and me before the last three outs at the 2009 World Series

"One out, Derek!"
"I know."
"OK, Derek, runner on. We can get a force at second."
"Yes, I'm familiar with the rules."
"Two outs now, Derek."
"You don't have to keep saying my name."
"Get a secondary lead, Derek!"
"What?"


"Hey batter, batter, batter, swing! Swing batter!"
"Don't do that. They can't hear you. Only I can hear you."
"Don't let them hit it to me, don't let them hit it to me..."
"You're saying that out loud, you know?"
...
"Mine. MINE MINE MINE!"
"Why did you call it and then not catch it?"
"Totally faked that runner out. He thought I was gonna catch it, then I didn't! Psyche!"
"Ugh."
"I hope we don't blow this."
"What?"
"Nothing, nothing. Just saying, we get free snow cones at the end of the game."
"Ugh."
   44. LA Podcasting Hombre of Anaheim Posted: July 15, 2017 at 11:40 AM (#5494010)
Yes, they do. As well as the stuff we hate like videos on mobile and declining sportswriting, etc.
Perhaps, and that's the type of dismissive attitude that'll refuse to adjust to changing demographics and culture.
   45. Buck Coats Posted: July 15, 2017 at 12:22 PM (#5494015)
You can tell A-Rod actually loves baseball in that his "four-point plan to save baseball" doesn't really change the game on the field in any way, just marketing and publicity stuff.
   46. Joe Bivens Will Take a Steaming Dump Posted: July 15, 2017 at 08:01 PM (#5494115)
I'm sure that broadcasting discussions on strategy wouldn't end badly for some team.

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