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Amaro says Phils didn’t overvalue players at Deadline | phillies.com: News

The players the Phillies have aren’t very appealing.

“Not disappointed,” Amaro said. “More surprised that there wasn’t more aggressive action from the other end. We have some pretty good baseball players here.”

But there seemed to be a clear difference of opinion there. The Phillies look at a roster with Cliff Lee, Jonathan Papelbon, A.J. Burnett, Marlon Byrd, Antonio Bastardo and others and see players who can help contending teams. That might be true, but other teams looked at those players with age, injury or performance concerns often with high price tags attached.

“Well, I would disagree with that,” Amaro said, asked if the Phillies overvalued their own players. “In no scenario were we asking for players that were their top prospects. We were not looking for exorbitant paybacks, so to speak, we were looking for players that would help us, but I think we were very reasonable in the discussions that we had.

“I think one of the most over-coveted elements of baseball are prospects. I don’t know how many prospects that have been dealt over the last several years have really come to bite people in the [rear end].”

Jim Furtado Posted: August 01, 2014 at 08:04 AM | 13 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: phillies, trade deadline

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   1. Gamingboy Posted: August 01, 2014 at 08:57 AM (#4762356)
injury


Like Cliff Lee?

(Too soon?)
   2. Robinson Cano Plate Like Home Posted: August 01, 2014 at 09:15 AM (#4762365)
I don’t know how many prospects that have been dealt over the last several years have really come to bite people in the [rear end].


Shoulda gone with "[tuchus]"

Also, stay classy, Amaro.
   3. zonk Posted: August 01, 2014 at 09:23 AM (#4762370)
Looks like the "[shitty GM] fires back" articles are running 3 to 1 Amaro vs. Jack Z...
   4. Batman Posted: August 01, 2014 at 09:59 AM (#4762382)
"Everybody else undervalued them."
   5. Bug Selig Posted: August 01, 2014 at 12:44 PM (#4762528)
In no scenario were we asking for players that were their top prospects.


Well, when the 2003 BA handbook is your source, how the hell would you know?
   6. Fancy Pants Handles lap changes with class Posted: August 01, 2014 at 12:45 PM (#4762529)
We were not looking for exorbitant paybacks, so to speak, we were looking for players that would help us, but I think we were very reasonable in the discussions that we had.

Translation: Amaro wanted major league ready talent back. And contenders trying to contend surprisingly didn't want to give any up.
   7. Chris Fluit Posted: August 01, 2014 at 01:01 PM (#4762546)
Except that contenders did trade away major league players like Cespedes, Austin Jackson and Joe Kelly to get the pieces they want. So even that excuse doesn't hold up.
   8. Barnaby Jones Posted: August 01, 2014 at 02:08 PM (#4762605)
I think one of the most over-coveted elements of baseball are prospects.


I guess this explains some stuff.
   9. Textbook Editor Posted: August 01, 2014 at 02:08 PM (#4762606)
We were not looking for exorbitant paybacks, so to speak, we were looking for players that would help us, but I think we were very reasonable in the discussions that we had.


Amaro: Hey, so we'll pick up everything on Howard's salary. I can't believe I'm saying this, but we're literally giving away an MVP. So... At that price, I think it's only fair I get a couple of guys back from your major league roster. How about that guy with the 4 ERA and the 5 wins and that 3B you've been platooning? I read our scouts' 2010 reports on both of them and I think they might just need a change of scenery.

GM: We've got a 1B. And a DH. We don't need Howard.

Amaro: Your guy's not an MVP. Mine is! And he's free.

GM: Our guys are better than your guy.

Amaro: Did I mention he's free? And that he won the MVP?

GM: I'm going to hang up now...

Amaro: No! Wait! OK, OK... We'll take your top hitting prospect instead. C'mon--he's not proved himself at the highest level yet!--how can you chose a complete unknown over a FREE MVP?

GM: [hangs up]

Amaro: Hello? Hello? [pause] OK, dial the next guy on the list.

   10. hokieneer Posted: August 01, 2014 at 02:10 PM (#4762607)
Except that contenders did trade away major league players like Cespedes, Austin Jackson and Joe Kelly to get the pieces they want. So even that excuse doesn't hold up.


For Lester, Price, and Lackey's indentured servitude. No one is going to give up major league players for Papelbon, Burnett, or Byrd.
   11. Swedish Chef Posted: August 01, 2014 at 02:16 PM (#4762619)
No one is going to give up major league players for Papelbon, Burnett, or Byrd.

Technically Kelly Johnson is a major league player.
   12. Avoid running at all times.-S. Paige Posted: August 01, 2014 at 02:16 PM (#4762620)
What about in a deal involving Utley?
   13. DA Baracus Posted: August 01, 2014 at 02:17 PM (#4762621)
Thanks for being you Ruben.

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