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Thursday, June 05, 2014

Anatomy of a start: Jake Peavy dissects his last outing against the Braves

Inside the head of a veteran thinking man’s pitcher.

Jim Furtado Posted: June 05, 2014 at 08:14 AM | 11 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: braves, jake peavy, pitching, red sox

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   1. villageidiom Posted: June 05, 2014 at 12:55 PM (#4719697)
“‘Shutdown inning’ is one of my favorite phrases,” he said laughing. “They’re like, ‘Come on, shutdown inning!’ and I go, ‘Yep, this inning is way different than any others where it’s OK to give up runs! This inning we really don’t want them to score!’
It's like he posts here.
   2. attaboy Posted: June 05, 2014 at 01:15 PM (#4719708)
Fun read. hard to ever get that kind of detailed, inning by inning analysis for a game by the SP.
   3. Renegade JE (((Jason))) Posted: June 05, 2014 at 01:17 PM (#4719711)
It's like he posts here.

Come to think of it, I've never seen Peavy and Shooty in the same room together....
   4. madvillain Posted: June 05, 2014 at 01:36 PM (#4719732)
I have a lot of respect for Peavy after he came back from the total lat tear and was still effective enough to net Chicago what is looking like a very good return. He worked his ass off to come back and could have easily just said "well nobody else has ever had this injury a I've made my money, time to retire".
   5. Fernigal McGunnigle Posted: June 05, 2014 at 01:59 PM (#4719758)
I have a lot of respect for Peavy after he came back from the total lat tear and was still effective enough to net Chicago what is looking like a very good return. He worked his ass off to come back and could have easily just said "well nobody else has ever had this injury a I've made my money, time to retire".

I went to this game, when in the first inning Peavy allowed three doubles and two home runs, all very hard hit balls to or over the wall in left center. Everything was just hammered. I have never seen a pitcher look as done as Peavy looked at that moment. He fought through it to throw 5 innings' worth of slop, made one more start, and was shut down for the rest of September. The fact that he's thrown 438 innings of 109 OPS+ ball since then strikes me as little short of miraculous. He's got my full respect as well.
   6. Jose Remains The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: June 05, 2014 at 04:29 PM (#4719894)
I hated when the Red Sox traded for him last year (and given the way he's pitched this year I'm not enjoying it a ton now either) but he very quickly became a guy who I enjoyed rooting for. All the screaming at himself on the mound was fun and he generally worked quickly and threw strikes which is always more fun to watch.
   7. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: June 06, 2014 at 12:04 AM (#4720173)
This is probably the best actual baseball content post put up in a few days, and it's gotten six responses. Meanwhile people complain about Off Topic posts. :P
   8. SoSHially Unacceptable Posted: June 06, 2014 at 12:38 AM (#4720181)
Some really good stuff in there, I liked this:

With one out, Simmons ambushed a first-pitch fastball for a single up the middle. Neither Peavy nor Ross saw that approach coming.

“We didn’t think he’d be just coming right out,” said Peavy. “You would think he would be trying to be almost a leadoff man in that situation and see some pitches, and he caught us being too aggressive. We threw a ball on the outer half that was hittable, thinking we’d get ahead with Strike One and go from there. You get caught.”


And this:

Peavy worked into the seventh for the first time in four starts. He struck out Doumit for the second time with a cutter — one that he said was somewhere closer to a slider on that spectrum.

“In all honesty, it’s a little bit of a different pitch at that point in time because your arm speed isn’t the same as it was, and you can be a little bit on the side of the ball,” he said. “If it’s not as hard as it was earlier, it’s going to move and be a little bit bigger.

“And then some of that to Doumit was by design. I wanted it harder, straighter, quicker to some of the other guys. Doumit was one of the guys I wanted it a touch bigger and to have a little depth to get over his flat-bat swing.


We talk a lot about pitchers losing steam as the game goes on, but it's interesting to see one recognize the physical changes and how they can be dealt with.
   9. CFBF Was Killed By The Mad Queen Posted: June 06, 2014 at 01:09 AM (#4720186)
It's sort of odd that Peavy and Ross were surprised by Simmons' aggressiveness. That's what Andrelton does: swing early, swing hard, make contact. He has one of the lowest walk rates in the league and one of the lowest strikeout rates. Leadoff hitter for an inning or not, you'll usually make some money betting on Simmons being aggressive.
   10. pikepredator Posted: June 06, 2014 at 08:52 AM (#4720235)
I can never get enough of this kind of article. fangraphs has a Q&A series that lets us inside the heads of various players as well and I've enjoyed every one. whenever people talk about players like emotionless automatons or call Manny a savant who can "see ball, hit ball", articles like this come to mind. There's simply not enough difference in talent for someone like Manny to be head and shoulders above other hitters without also knowing his craft better than the rest.

Peavy is a perfect example - the stereotype of him is of the hunting camp and the big wad in his cheek but this shows how much forethought and planning goes into every start. the bit about Brock Holt's positioning is interesting, the talk about how he has to pitch different teams differently based on the overall preference for speed/location . . . there's so much more complexity and nuance in "playing the game" at the highest level than many people think.
   11. Jose Remains The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: June 06, 2014 at 09:13 AM (#4720249)
It's funny. Ex-players are often so terrible at being color men/studio analysts but when they just are able to chat about the game they are so interesting. I think what happens is they know the game so well but they don't know the players they are discussing. When they can talk mechanics and mindset they can kill it but then when they have to get into specific players they lapse into cliche.

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