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Wednesday, April 19, 2017

Angel Pagan to sit out 2017 season

Free-agent outfielder Angel Pagan will sit out the remainder of the season instead of signing with a club, he told Yamaira Muniz Perez of El Vocero on Wednesday. Pagan plans to spend time with family.

Pagan, who turns 36 in July, went unsigned all winter despite rumors of interest from multiple clubs including the Blue Jays, Braves and Nationals. He was connected to the Pirates earlier in the week as a potential replacement for outfielder Starling Marte, who was suspended 80 games for violating the league’s performance-enhancing drug policy.

Pagan reportedly came close to signing with the Orioles at one point during the offseason, though a failed physical scuttled that deal and left him without a club entering spring training. No deal materialized at his ask price at that point, leaving him unemployed as the season began earlier this month.

Though Pagan did not rule out a return in 2018, players usually find it difficult to get back to playing after a year spent with family. If this is it for Pagan’s career, he departs baseball with a career .280/.330/.408 line with 64 homers in 11 major-league seasons with the Cubs (2006-07), Mets (2008-11) and Giants (2012-16).

RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: April 19, 2017 at 03:45 PM | 35 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: April 19, 2017 at 04:02 PM (#5438366)
I know the pronunciation that makes it so is wrong, but Angel Pagan is a great baseball name.
   2. Batman Posted: April 19, 2017 at 04:05 PM (#5438372)
The 2022 Hall ballot continues to take shape.
   3. ReggieThomasLives Posted: April 19, 2017 at 04:08 PM (#5438375)
I also am sitting out the 2017 season.
   4. PreservedFish Posted: April 19, 2017 at 04:15 PM (#5438381)
I remember spotting his name when he was a very low-level Mets prospect, so, 15+ years ago. Great name.

Interesting player. He was a surprisingly excellent athlete for a guy that scouts never really liked all that much. He played with a bizarre wide-eyed intensity that was great to watch when he was playing well, but when he was playing poorly it made him look dangerous and potentially unhinged.
   5. Adam Starblind Posted: April 19, 2017 at 04:55 PM (#5438421)
Handsome dude too. Just saying.
   6. JohnQ Posted: April 19, 2017 at 04:56 PM (#5438422)
It tells how things have changed in baseball. Pagan was a 17 WAR player and he earned $50 million. Mike Gallego was a 17 WAR outfielder who retired in 1997 and he earned $7 million. Gary Ward was a 17 WAR outfielder who retired in 1990 and he earned $4 million.

The Mets would have won the N.L. east in 2008 with a healthy Pagan in LF. Instead they ran out about 11 different players to try and fill the void.
   7. Bug Selig Posted: April 19, 2017 at 05:01 PM (#5438425)
Mike Gallego was a 17 WAR outfielder
In a bit of numerical wonder, Mike Gallego played 1 of his 1111 games in the OF. That's a lot of 1's.
   8. 6 - 4 - 3 Posted: April 19, 2017 at 05:02 PM (#5438426)
He was a great Giant who was far more productive for the team than I expected when they first traded for him. He wasn't quite worth the $40M/4yr extension that he signed after the 2012 season, but it wasn't a total disaster. Hope he enjoys retirement.
   9. 6 - 4 - 3 Posted: April 19, 2017 at 05:02 PM (#5438428)
Mike Gallego played 1 of his 1111 games in the OF.

Yeah, I was thinking that I remembered Gallego more as an infielder.
   10. Pat Rapper's Delight (as quoted on MLB Network) Posted: April 19, 2017 at 05:04 PM (#5438429)
Mike Gallego was a 17 WAR outfielder who retired in 1997 and he earned $7 million.

Rickey could have played like Gallego if the A's wanted to pay Rickey like Gallego.
   11. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: April 19, 2017 at 05:09 PM (#5438434)
Pagan was a 17 WAR player and he earned $50 million.


And like most 21st century players, it was distributed like this:

2006-2012: 15.6 WAR, $11 million
2013-2016: 1.4 WAR, $40 million
   12. Walt Davis Posted: April 19, 2017 at 05:19 PM (#5438441)
Early on I figured there's no way Pagan would last. I was not happy when he came to the Cubs. Then he proved me wrong and was very good which was fine by me.

My only real memory of him was on an interference play in a Cubs-Sox game. I mainly remember the play because for some reason I was listening to the Sox broadcast and Hawk went absolutely nuts. Nobody on the Sox broadcast seemed to have noticed it was interference so when the Cub batter got thrown out at 2B but awarded 2B anyway, Hawk goes on an epic tirade about how the only possible explanation is that the umps are throwing the game for the Cubs. He went on for quite a while with this rant. Finally told there was interference, he goes on a rant about how everybody knows the ball is dead on interference and that in all of his 50 years of baseball he's never seen interference not result in a dead ball, etc.

What does Pagan have to do with it? He was on base for the Cubs and when they ran the replay, he sees the interference call -- and he starts directing all the Cub runners around the bases. He knew immediately what they could and couldn't do. The Cub batter probably never tries for second but Pagan knew he could advance "without fear of being put out." Knowing the rules in fair detail and being able to apply them immediately is fairly rare for a player. Maybe he should become an ump.

I'd like MLB teams to know that, unlike Pagan, I am available for the 2017 season. My agent won't like me saying this but I'm willing to sign for Jose Bautista money (even pro-rated for the remainder of the season).
   13. bfan Posted: April 19, 2017 at 05:48 PM (#5438458)
He failed a physical. The article makes it sound as if he is choosing to sit out the season, but maybe there is something there that dissuades teams from offering a guaranteed contract, and it really isn't his choice (except to stop trying to make happen what is not going to happen). I mean, it isn't as if he ran a slow 40; he failed a physical.
   14. Batman Posted: April 19, 2017 at 06:07 PM (#5438470)
Gallego played one inning in that one outfield game. He did handle a fly ball and apparently picked up a single to right.
   15. Chris Fluit Posted: April 19, 2017 at 06:23 PM (#5438486)
No deal materialized at his ask price
This is the key line in the entire piece.
   16. Russlan thinks deGrom is da bomb Posted: April 19, 2017 at 07:57 PM (#5438528)
Pagan was a pretty solid player in his time, graceful in the outfield, good baserunner, could hit for a good average.
   17. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: April 19, 2017 at 08:07 PM (#5438532)
Mike Gallego and Randy Velarde were the heart and soul, respectively, of the 1993 Yankees.
   18. McCoy Posted: April 19, 2017 at 09:24 PM (#5438605)
My only real memory of him was on an interference play in a Cubs-Sox game. I mainly remember the play because for some reason I was listening to the Sox broadcast and Hawk went absolutely nuts. Nobody on the Sox broadcast seemed to have noticed it was interference so when the Cub batter got thrown out at 2B but awarded 2B anyway, Hawk goes on an epic tirade about how the only possible explanation is that the umps are throwing the game for the Cubs. He went on for quite a while with this rant. Finally told there was interference, he goes on a rant about how everybody knows the ball is dead on interference and that in all of his 50 years of baseball he's never seen interference not result in a dead ball, etc.

What does Pagan have to do with it? He was on base for the Cubs and when they ran the replay, he sees the interference call -- and he starts directing all the Cub runners around the bases. He knew immediately what they could and couldn't do. The Cub batter probably never tries for second but Pagan knew he could advance "without fear of being put out." Knowing the rules in fair detail and being able to apply them immediately is fairly rare for a player. Maybe he should become an ump.


I would say I remember that play but then again Hawk would do that all the time.
   19. Cargo Cultist Posted: April 19, 2017 at 10:01 PM (#5438634)
Oh, God, the awful Hawk Harrelson.
   20. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: April 19, 2017 at 10:07 PM (#5438638)
He failed a physical.

With the Orioles, which probably indicates he's in perfect health.
   21. Walt Davis Posted: April 20, 2017 at 12:13 AM (#5438679)
Yep ...

For the O's doctors, "he's unhealthy" means he's got another 10 years of full-time play left in him. For the Mets' doctors, "he's healthy" means he's on death's doorstep.
   22. 6 - 4 - 3 Posted: April 20, 2017 at 02:24 AM (#5438710)
For the Mets' doctors, "he's healthy" means he's on death's doorstep.

Mets' doctors cleared Stephen Hawking to start throwing earlier this week. Says his shoulder looks like it hasn't been used in over 50 years.
   23. Sunday silence Posted: April 20, 2017 at 06:24 AM (#5438716)
TIL: If you sit out a year of baseball best to do it without being near your family because its "usually difficult to get back" to baseball after spending it with them.
   24. LA Podcasting Hombre of Anaheim Posted: April 20, 2017 at 06:39 AM (#5438718)
Handsome dude too. Just saying.
The face of an Angel.
   25. Batman Posted: April 20, 2017 at 09:05 AM (#5438741)
I spent a year with Angel Pagan's family and haven't even been offered a minor league contract since then.
   26. There are no words... (Met Fan Charlie) Posted: April 20, 2017 at 10:43 AM (#5438828)
a failed physical scuttled that deal


Maybe his colitis was flaring up that day. I remember toward the end of his time with the Mets, he had to be pinch-hit for in a game because he was...uh...indisposed.
   27. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: April 20, 2017 at 11:52 AM (#5438896)

Pagan led the Mets in WAR in both 2009 and 2010. That was not a great team but he was a surprisingly decent and entertaining player.
   28. Chris Fluit Posted: April 20, 2017 at 11:57 AM (#5438902)
He was a great Giant who was far more productive for the team than I expected when they first traded for him. He wasn't quite worth the $40M/4yr extension that he signed after the 2012 season, but it wasn't a total disaster. Hope he enjoys retirement.

This is both accurate and indicative of the real issue- which is that Pagan is no longer as good as he thinks. His best season in the past four years was worth 1.5 WAR (2012). He also mixed in a -1.9 WAR season in 2013. At this point, he's at best a 1-1.5 WAR player. Multiple teams would be interested in that kind of a player- but only at the right price. However, based on the off-season rumor mill, Pagan wasn't interested in taking a pay cut from his $11 million salary. Reportedly, the Blue Jays and Pirates both offered Pagan something in the $5 million dollar range- pretty appropriate based on his current skill set- and he turned them down.
   29. Adam Starblind Posted: April 20, 2017 at 12:45 PM (#5438937)
His best season in the past four years was worth 1.5 WAR (2012).


And that was five seasons ago!
   30. Chris Fluit Posted: April 20, 2017 at 01:33 PM (#5439013)
Yeah, poorly timed type-o on my part. That was 2014, not 2012.
   31. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: April 20, 2017 at 02:24 PM (#5439063)

The 2022 Hall ballot continues to take shape.


Right now, that list also includes Mark Teixeira, Alex Rodriguez, Coco Crisp, Prince Fielder, AJ Pierzynski, Billy Butler, Justin Morneau, Jimmy Rollins, Jeff Francoeur, Marlon Byrd, Tim Lincecum, John Danks, Jake Peavy, Jonathan Papelbon, possibly Omar Infante and Ryan Howard, and of course, David Arias (also known as David Ortiz)

Jeremy Guthrie will have to wait another year.
   32. 6 - 4 - 3 Posted: April 20, 2017 at 02:36 PM (#5439073)
Right now, that list also includes Mark Teixeira, Alex Rodriguez, Coco Crisp, Prince Fielder, AJ Pierzynski, Billy Butler, Justin Morneau, Jimmy Rollins, Jeff Francoeur, Marlon Byrd, Tim Lincecum, John Danks, Jake Peavy, Jonathan Papelbon, possibly Omar Infante and Ryan Howard, and of course, David Arias (also known as David Ortiz)

The only guy who has a shot at making it on his first ballot is Ortiz.

It wouldn't surprise me if all but Ortiz (assuming not elected) and A-Rod are one-and-done.
   33. Adam Starblind Posted: April 20, 2017 at 02:48 PM (#5439087)


His best season in the past four years was worth 1.5 WAR (2012).


And that was five seasons ago! 30. Chris Fluit Posted: April 20, 2017 at 01:33 PM (#5439013)


Yeah, poorly timed type-o on my part. That was 2014, not 2012.


I liked it.
   34. Styles P. Deadball Posted: April 20, 2017 at 03:16 PM (#5439115)
I think my fictional black metal band "Pagan Angel" might see an uptick in creativity.
   35. RMc's Yelling Mob of Hackmen Posted: April 21, 2017 at 08:08 AM (#5439576)
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