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Another rough day for Shohei Ohtani prompts more questions for Angels | OC Register

Scioscia said they aren’t yet sure when Ohtani’s next start would be. Assuming five or six days rest, the schedule he’s been on all spring, that would be either next Thursday or Friday.

It’s also possible he could pitch in a minor league game so they can ensure he gets up to the 90 pitches he needs to start the season. Ohtani threw only 50 pitches in Friday’s game, then went down to the bullpen for another three innings worth of work, Scioscia said.

Ohtani has now pitched in four games, the first three against mostly minor league hitters. All told, he’s recorded 25 outs in the games, allowing 18 hits and four homers. He has given up 17 runs (15 earned). He is also 2 for 20 in big league exhibitions as a hitter.

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   1. bfan Posted: March 17, 2018 at 10:31 AM (#5639347)
After Hamilton and Pujols worked out so poorly for them, I will really feel sorry for them if Ohtani does not work out either. It is like the cosmos are doing an evening out for the luck of having Trout work out as he did.
   2. eric Posted: March 17, 2018 at 11:10 AM (#5639354)
I think the answer is to send Ohtani to A ball and let him work himself up to MLB when he demonstrates he's ready, whether that's just a few weeks per stop at a time, or if he's Kei Igawa redux and a true MiLB-level talent.
   3. Captain Supporter Posted: March 17, 2018 at 11:29 AM (#5639356)
It is spring training. And in Ohtani's case he has to make an adjustment to an unfamiliar country, an unfamilar lanhuage and a very different way of doing things. The notion that 8 innings of spring training pitching and 20 at bats has any particular relevance to Ohtani's ability is silly. The Angels made bad mistakes in giving long term contracts to the injury prone and drug addicted Hamilton and the curiously shrunken (lets just say that I'm with Jack Clark on this one) and aged Pujols. But Ohtani is a talented young proven player. He should be just fine.

   4. PreservedFish Posted: March 17, 2018 at 11:31 AM (#5639357)
Dude throws like 98 as a starter and has mastered a AAA+ league. He's ready as ready gets. He has little in common with Kei Igawa. Igawa was a strong pitcher in Japan. He wasn't exceptional. Ohtani has been exceptional.
   5. eric Posted: March 17, 2018 at 11:42 AM (#5639358)
And in Ohtani's case he has to make an adjustment to an unfamiliar country, an unfamilar lanhuage and a very different way of doing things.


More reasons to ease him in.

Dude throws like 98 as a starter and has mastered a AAA+ league.


Lots of guys in the minors can throw heat and aren't MLB-caliber players. He's in a new country, with different equipment, different workloads, and different culture (both in-game and otherwise). If he's sent to the minors while he really is ready then his development would go: 1 week at A, 1 week at AA, 2 weeks at AAA, MLB. If he isn't ready then maybe he's in MLB by the ASB, or by next year.

However, if you start him in MLB when he isn't ready, you run the same risk you do of rushing any prospect--ruining their development and/or confidence. There's a reason so many levels of baseball exist, and it's because people can't just jump into the top level no matter how much raw skill they possess.

Ultimately, by going the MiLB route, if Ohtani is ready the Angels miss out on a few weeks of his play. If he isn't ready, they put themselves in a much better situation to have him be ready and productive at some point.

But, agreed that SSS issues definitely apply. If they really legitimately like what they see despite the stat lines, by all means start him in MLB. But they shouldn't just do so because they already spent all that money, or people are expecting it, or whatever other justification they might come up with.

   6. PreservedFish Posted: March 17, 2018 at 11:57 AM (#5639363)
If he's sent to the minors while he really is ready then his development would go: 1 week at A, 1 week at AA, 2 weeks at AAA, MLB.


That seems more likely to unsettle the young man than do the opposite.

There's a reason so many levels of baseball exist, and it's because people can't just jump into the top level no matter how much raw skill they possess.


Yes, and he has already dominated the second best league in the world.
   7. The Duke Posted: March 17, 2018 at 12:14 PM (#5639368)
It’s a big adjustment - he should start in AAA and get his stability and then come up when ready. Cardinals signed so taguchi and he literally was having the bat knocked out of his hands when he got here - he eventually turned out ok and he had nowhere near the pedigree.
   8. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: March 17, 2018 at 12:20 PM (#5639370)
I think the answer is to send Ohtani to A ball and let him work himself up to MLB when he demonstrates he's ready, whether that's just a few weeks per stop at a time,

It might make sense for him to spend some time in AAA. But sending him to A ball would just be dumb. What's to be gained by having him blow away 19 y.o. kids who've never seen a good breaking pitch?

We know he can dominate AAAA talent. Facing A and AA talent tells you nothing.
   9. PreservedFish Posted: March 17, 2018 at 12:34 PM (#5639372)
I'm not convinced that AAA offers stability. It does offer long bus rides and resentment though.

"You know what will help him get comfy? If he lives out of a hotel in Salt Lake City for 3 weeks, practices with a coaching staff he's never met and will never again meet, and spends half his days driving this way or that across Nevada with a bunch of young lummoxes he can't communicate with and will likely never see again."
   10. This is going to be state of the art wall Posted: March 17, 2018 at 12:45 PM (#5639373)
"You know what will help him get comfy? If he lives out of a hotel in Salt Lake City for 3 weeks, practices with a coaching staff he's never met and will never again meet, and spends half his days driving this way or that across Nevada with a bunch of young lummoxes he can't communicate with and will likely never see again."


I'm sure he'd have his entourage with him the entire time and he's not down there for the "coaching" he's down there for the reps. And he's a pro athlete, most of them are made of much sterner stuff than your average bloke. If he struggles out of the gate he should certainly go down to AAA and try and build some confidence. If he struggles down there, well, he was never ready anyways. And if he puts up some good starts bring him back up.
   11. Ziggy's screen name Posted: March 17, 2018 at 12:46 PM (#5639374)
PF is making some good points here. No reason to stick him on a bus. If he needs to be eased in have him spend the first few weeks pitching low-leverage innings against bad teams before moving him to the rotation.
   12. PreservedFish Posted: March 17, 2018 at 01:09 PM (#5639378)
#10, yes, I'm sure he could handle it. But by that same token, he's a pro athlete, most of them are made of much sterner stuff than your average bloke, and I don't think that overpowering AAA doofuses for a few weeks is going to make a meaningful change in his long-term prospects.

My real point is that while people here are guessing that he's struggling because he is unsettled - that this is a culture shock thing more so than a talent thing - a demotion is only likely to unsettle him further.

And honestly, if I were him, I'd see a demotion as a huge lack of respect. A few bad outings in spring shouldn't earn a demotion.

Now if I were somehow able to put his bat in AAA while his arm stays in Anaheim, I'd do it, because his hitting pedigree does not scream instant success to me.
   13. puck Posted: March 17, 2018 at 01:22 PM (#5639383)
It is like the cosmos are doing an evening out for the luck of having Trout work out as he did.


I thought Trout was the cosmos evening out the bad luck for all the weird stuff that happened to them like Lyman Bostock and Nick Adenhardt.
   14. puck Posted: March 17, 2018 at 01:23 PM (#5639384)
Back to Ohtani, weren't there rumors about his elbow having a problem? I hope that's not to blame for the poor performance.
   15. Batman Posted: March 17, 2018 at 01:25 PM (#5639385)
His name sounds Irish. He's just been looking forward to St. Patrick's Day. He'll settle down starting tomorrow.
   16. akrasian Posted: March 17, 2018 at 03:15 PM (#5639411)
If he's still not ready by the end of spring training - Salt Lake's first 5 games are at home. Put him down there for a start and for hitting practice. No buses, not as big an ego hit ("we just want you to get one more start to build up arm strength, and dh a bit"). Then promote him and give him his shot.
   17. cercopithecus aethiops Posted: March 17, 2018 at 03:28 PM (#5639412)
And honestly, if I were him, I'd see a demotion as a huge lack of respect. A few bad outings in spring shouldn't earn a demotion.


He's never played in MLB. You can't be demoted from a position you don't hold.

Now if I were somehow able to put his bat in AAA while his arm stays in Anaheim, I'd do it, because his hitting pedigree does not scream instant success to me.


Yeah, that's a problem. He might not be ready to step in as a dominant MLB pitcher yet, but he's almost certainly ready to hold his own. But as a hitter, he could probably really use a half a season of MiLB reps. Pitching in MLB is really really hard, but it's mostly about having the god-given ability. Hitting in MLB is really really hard, even if you do have the god-given ability. Especially if you aren't getting the reps you need because you spend half your time working on your pitching.
   18. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: March 17, 2018 at 03:35 PM (#5639416)
Especially if you aren't getting the reps you need because you spend half your time working on your pitching.

Is there any evidence that MLB players are limited in practice by the amount of available time? I highly doubt pitchers are spending more than 1-2 hours a day throwing. Does any hitter spend more than an hour or two a day in the cage?

Especially as a SP, who has four days where he can prepare during the actual games, I don't think time to practice is going to be a limitation on Ohtani.
   19. Ziggy's screen name Posted: March 17, 2018 at 03:38 PM (#5639418)
It's not just about time spent pitching, it's also about time spent recovering from pitching.

The 2-way player thing was a nice idea, but it was always a long shot. If he's not really an MLB caliber batter, then it's REALLY a long shot.
   20. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: March 17, 2018 at 04:01 PM (#5639421)
It's not just about time spent pitching, it's also about time spent recovering from pitching.

I don't see why hitting would affect that.
   21. . . . . . . . . . . Posted: March 17, 2018 at 04:15 PM (#5639422)
What I don’t get is why he’s not soaking up as many ABs as possible. Like playing 9 in the MLB game and then hopping over to the MiLB side for another 4 ABs. Getting every rep he can before the real games start.
   22. jacjacatk Posted: March 17, 2018 at 05:54 PM (#5639433)
It's not just about time spent pitching, it's also about time spent recovering from pitching.

I don't see why hitting would affect that.


The toll pitching takes on your legs is substantial, which at a minimum I'd expect to affect your ability to hit well. Wouldn't surprise me at all if hitting (never mind playing a position) would therefore work against your recovery to get ready for that next start.
   23. Perry Posted: March 17, 2018 at 06:35 PM (#5639437)
I'm not convinced that AAA offers stability. It does offer long bus rides and resentment though.


Very few if any bus rides in the PCL. They may fly commercial, but they do fly.
   24. Jose is an Absurd Doubles Machine Posted: March 17, 2018 at 06:55 PM (#5639438)
A couple of people made reference to the Japanese League as being AAA+ or AAAA. Are we convinced this is an accurate representation of the NPB? How much of a settled question is this?
   25. LA Podcasting Hombre of Anaheim Posted: March 17, 2018 at 07:04 PM (#5639440)
Is there any evidence that MLB players are limited in practice by the amount of available time? I highly doubt pitchers are spending more than 1-2 hours a day throwing. Does any hitter spend more than an hour or two a day in the cage?
Ohtani has apparently been spending about two hours more at "work" — at the ballpark either working out, stretching, whatever — than anyone else on the team every day, and it's directly as a result of his desire to play both sides.
   26. Joe Bivens Recognizes the Kenyan Precedent Posted: March 17, 2018 at 07:10 PM (#5639442)
In 7 seasons of AAA ball, Chris Marrero 60 home runs. Last year in Japan he hit 20. Just one guy, but still.
   27. Robert S. Posted: March 17, 2018 at 07:12 PM (#5639443)
There aren't exactly a ton of 23-year-old guys fresh from NPB or two-way players in MLB. The Angels are effectively writing the book on how to (not) handle a player like that. I would expect there's going to be a substantial period of adjustment for him.
   28. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: March 17, 2018 at 07:13 PM (#5639444)
Ohtani has apparently been spending about two hours more at "work" — at the ballpark either working out, stretching, whatever — than anyone else on the team every day, and it's directly as a result of his desire to play both sides.

That makes sense. 2 hours seems like about the amount of time a player would spend throwing, running, taking swings, etc. he's doubling up, and good for him for putting the time in.
   29. Walt Davis Posted: March 17, 2018 at 07:23 PM (#5639445)
#24 ... good question. It seemed reasonably settled by the standards of the day 10 years ago or so when it was a hot topic. But even if it was true then, no guarantee it's true now. Has anybody updated that analysis? In terms of successful transfers, it's been pretty much all pitchers since the heyday of Ichiro and Hideki. It seems these days that any young pitcher that might have what it takes is put up for auction suggesting the average pitching level ain't that great.

As I've said in another thread, maybe I'm forgetting some NPB American re-imports who've done well. But in terms of born in Japan, the last hittr to come over is Aoki in 2012** and he's been a solid player mainly due to walks and defense and has no power (102 ISO). Even in terms of pitchers (that have any impact), we may be down to 1 every other year or so -- Darvish and Iwakuma in 2012, Tanaka in 2014, Maeda in 2016, now Ohtani in 2018.

That's not producing much talent (that becomes available) for AAA+ ... then again, a lot of MLB talent spends little/no time in AAA so maybe it's more a comment on the quality of AAA these days. Obviously the fact that the talent is not freely available to MLB means it is tough to judge talent based on the small handful that do come over or come back. The economics probably rarely work out -- the player has to be a darn good player to make it worth the team's while to put him up for auction and/or for the good player to make better money (right away) in the US than they can in Japan (at least under current rules).

** Kensuke Tanaka came over in 2013 and got 34 PA for the Giants so technically he's the most recent. He spent 2014 in Rangers AAA but has been back in Japan the last 3 seasons.
   30. Jose is an Absurd Doubles Machine Posted: March 17, 2018 at 07:24 PM (#5639446)
It might be interesting to get a sense of how guys who catch part time manage themselves. It’s the one position of the field other than pitcher that is meaningfully different and involves studying scouting reports for pitcher/batter battles. Guys like John Wathan, Charlie Moore, Buster Posey and others might give us some insight on how to manage time.
   31. Walt Davis Posted: March 17, 2018 at 07:25 PM (#5639447)
Does NPB have spring training games? Do they draw well? Would it make sense to have (some/all?) NPB teams come over here for spring training, create a bit of a buzz and see a bit of head-to-head competition?
   32. ptodd Posted: March 17, 2018 at 07:41 PM (#5639453)
I havent seen too much of him since he hardly plays but he seems to have trouble pitching down in the zone. Lot of pitches left up. Maybe the mound or ball

I have been complaining all ST that he is not getting enough work on both sides of the plate. Japanese players are big believers in getting lots of reps

Basically Scoscia and Angels are mishandling him

At this point I would consider sending him to AAA but they may have a handshake agreement that he should not be judged in ST
   33. Jose is an Absurd Doubles Machine Posted: March 17, 2018 at 08:23 PM (#5639458)
I don’t think we can discuss the Angels mishandling him until he’s played actual games. At the end of the day this is all just spring training and plenty of guys look like crap in the spring then play well in he season and vice versa.
   34. Jason Dean Posted: March 17, 2018 at 08:42 PM (#5639461)
I'm sure he'd have his entourage with him the entire time and he's not down there for the "coaching" he's down there for the reps. And he's a pro athlete, most of them are made of much sterner stuff than your average bloke. If he struggles out of the gate he should certainly go down to AAA and try and build some confidence. If he struggles down there, well, he was never ready anyways. And if he puts up some good starts bring him back up.


They'll pilfer his porno collection.
   35. haven Posted: March 17, 2018 at 08:43 PM (#5639462)
As I've said in another thread, maybe I'm forgetting some NPB American re-imports who've done well.


this is why miles mikolas interests me........
   36. Lars6788 Posted: March 17, 2018 at 10:35 PM (#5639485)
Have him work through extended spring training then move him up the minors [maybe a start in single-A, then a couple in AAA] like you would a MLB pitcher who is coming back from an injury - aim for a mid April MLB debut, presumably after the team has gained an extra year of control.
   37. Walt Davis Posted: March 18, 2018 at 12:28 AM (#5639496)
this is why miles mikolas interests me

Another pitcher though. As is Dennis Sarfate who looks pretty interesting and maybe should be brought back over.

I got him off of this Wiki page which means either there aren't many worthwhile US players over there or somebody is doing a lousy job of keeping the page updated.
   38. Sunday silence Posted: March 18, 2018 at 01:46 AM (#5639505)
He's registerd 25 outs already he should be the opening day pitcher.
   39. cercopithecus aethiops Posted: March 18, 2018 at 08:12 AM (#5639512)
Is there any evidence that MLB players are limited in practice by the amount of available time?


We not talkin' 'bout practice. You need game reps against hi level pitching to hit hi level pitching. His pitching isn't exactly going to make that easier.
   40. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: March 18, 2018 at 11:51 AM (#5639530)
We not talkin' 'bout practice. You need game reps against hi level pitching to hit hi level pitching. His pitching isn't exactly going to make that easier.

Plenty of hitters have been successful playing 3 out of 5 days.
   41. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: March 18, 2018 at 12:05 PM (#5639532)
This is all cosmic payback for how Ohtani disrespected the Yankees. (/ducks)

Seriously, though, I think we all want for him to get over the hump and become everything the Angels hope he'll be, the Martin Dihago of MLB.
   42. Panik on the streets of London (Trout! Trout!) Posted: March 18, 2018 at 12:10 PM (#5639533)
This is all cosmic payback for how Ohtani disrespected the Yankees. (/ducks)


He's lucky he ain't sleepin' with the fishes.
   43. You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR) Posted: March 18, 2018 at 12:47 PM (#5639538)
I don’t care who he disrespected, there’s no way he’d deserve to be stuck on the Marlins.
   44. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: March 18, 2018 at 01:58 PM (#5639550)
Man, if Ohtani flops, he's really going to regret coming over early.

I really hope he makes it as a two-way player, that would be so cool. If he's just a pitcher, meh.
   45. LA Podcasting Hombre of Anaheim Posted: March 18, 2018 at 03:23 PM (#5639561)
Man, if Ohtani flops, he's really going to regret coming over early.
Dude, he's here. Let the money thing go already.
   46. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: March 18, 2018 at 03:41 PM (#5639564)
Dude, he's here. Let the money thing go already.

Sorry, $150M mistakes have a way of sticking with you. The guys did one the dumbest things ever in terms of a player in contract negotiations.

I hope he doesn't flop, but if he does, that's going to eat at him for a loooong time.
   47. puck Posted: March 18, 2018 at 03:48 PM (#5639566)
Coming over before he was a free agent probably helped him get a chance as a hitter. If he signed a megacontract, teams would be less patient with the hitting.
   48. JimMusComp likes Billy Eppler.... Posted: March 18, 2018 at 04:47 PM (#5639570)
Yeah - this is a bit disconcerting. I don't like that he is struggling, but it is ST. He's needed more as a pitcher, so that's the most important thing. His stuff seems ok, but his command is horrid. He's never had control issues so it could be a) new mound, b) new ball, c) rust from his arm injury, or d) injury. I'm OK with it being any combo of #1-3. #4 would be a bummer.

The hitting thing is fine. There is no reason he doesn't deserve 250-300 AB's this year. He probably won't be worse than the alternatives, and we can see if it's something to bank on in the future. If it works out - great. If not, we know more and he hopefully pitches decently.

Either way - for $3 million even if he's a cromulent #4 starter - he's a bargain for 6 years.

But, I hope he becomes a solid #2/3 starter and can provide value on offense 2-3 days a week. That would be amazing.
   49. Walt Davis Posted: March 18, 2018 at 04:59 PM (#5639571)
Well, if he really flops, the Angels just release him and he goes back to Japan. Is there any arrangement where a player can play in Japan "on loan"? In an odd way, flopping would un-do the $150 M mistake because if he'd been meh for these two years over there, he'd have never gotten $150 M.
   50. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: March 18, 2018 at 06:27 PM (#5639595)
Speaking of rooting for players on the Angels to make it, I'm watching their game right now and a minor league guy named Bo Way is batting. I hope he makes it as the next Ed Ott.

EDIT: Way gets a hit, and now here comes Ohtani.
   51. Panik on the streets of London (Trout! Trout!) Posted: March 19, 2018 at 10:11 AM (#5639685)
He can't be worse than Pujols was last year.
   52. Khrushin it bro Posted: March 19, 2018 at 04:56 PM (#5639950)
It seems these days that any young pitcher that might have what it takes is put up for auction suggesting the average pitching level ain't that great.


I'm so sick of a third of the Japanese league tanking every year!
   53. . . . . . . . . . . Posted: March 19, 2018 at 05:16 PM (#5639970)
He looks pretty Sh.Otani to me
   54. Der-K: downgraded to lurker Posted: March 28, 2018 at 08:59 AM (#5644087)
ohtani's contract was just selected...
   55. Crispix Attacksel Rios Posted: March 28, 2018 at 09:20 AM (#5644091)
I got him off of this Wiki page which means either there aren't many worthwhile US players over there or somebody is doing a lousy job of keeping the page updated.


Japan update: Phillies fifth starter for a couple years David Buchanan had a good year in Japan last year - well not that good, but slightly better than his AAA stats the previous year.

And check out this picture of him!
   56. Zonk, Genius of the Stables Posted: March 28, 2018 at 09:23 AM (#5644092)
Dropping him to A ball would have been ridiculous - unless there's some sort of particular pitching or hitting instruction best for him at that level...

However, I don't understand the obstinance in having him start the year at AAA... Even without him, the offseason moves would seem to say that the Angels think of themselves as contenders (their weird unwillingness to supplant journeymen like Blake Parker and Jim Johsnson as the top bullpen guys aside).

Why not let him spend a month at AAA, let the hype subside a bit, get his American baseball feet wet away from the spotlight?
   57. Der-K: downgraded to lurker Posted: March 28, 2018 at 09:50 AM (#5644103)
I think that'd make sense ... subject to whatever the agreement was between the Angels and Ohtani's camp at signing. Given the chasm between the cap on his earnings and his market value, I would not be surprised if he had far more ability to dictate other terms of the deal (whether on paper or not) than your usual player.
--
Given that he's not only struggling way more with command than he has previously, but that the velocity is also way down - how likely is it that he's hurt?
   58. Zonk, Genius of the Stables Posted: March 28, 2018 at 10:04 AM (#5644108)
Obviously, I'm sure the Angels don't want him too hurt... but something relatively minor explaining the velocity drop in particular? Might almost come as a relief...
   59. Nasty Nate Posted: March 28, 2018 at 10:13 AM (#5644112)
Why not let him spend a month at AAA, let the hype subside a bit, get his American baseball feet wet away from the spotlight?
I don't know their roster very well, but do they have better options at SP and part-time-DH/pinch-hitter?
   60. Der-K: downgraded to lurker Posted: March 28, 2018 at 10:15 AM (#5644114)
Yeah.
And not that command was his strength, but reportedly he hasn't been able to locate the fastball at all - which, with velo down 3-6 mph from what it was? -- that sounds like more than nerves or dealing with a different baseball (though I think the latter is an easy thing to understate in importance). I'll defer to those who are actually watching him throw, of course, rather than relying on people live tweeting his ST outings...
   61. Der-K: downgraded to lurker Posted: March 28, 2018 at 10:18 AM (#5644117)
59/nate: Based on his pre-ST performance? No - you want him on the field/hitting whenever possible.
Based solely on his ST performance? He shouldn't be anywhere near the majors.
If he is hurt? (which is only my armchair conjecture): You want him to get healthy and comfortable.
Not enough info for me to feel confident in any scenario at this time.
   62. Jose is an Absurd Doubles Machine Posted: March 28, 2018 at 10:36 AM (#5644129)
Is it going to be easier for the Angels and Ohtani to have him with the big club even if he's struggling. I don't think there's going to be a lot less attention on him in AAA (the Japanese media will just go there) and my guess is the Angels have an infrastructure that allows them to keep him settled. Just basic things like living arrangements and stuff like that. At some point if he's not performing then yeah, you send him down, but we are still dealing with spring training performance.
   63. Nasty Nate Posted: March 29, 2018 at 01:49 PM (#5645067)
Ohtani is starting at DH and batting 8th today.
   64. This is going to be state of the art wall Posted: March 29, 2018 at 02:54 PM (#5645153)
Ohtani is starting at DH and batting 8th today.


Well, the Angels have confidence.
   65. Infinite Yost (Voxter) Posted: March 29, 2018 at 08:18 PM (#5645331)
He got a hit today.
   66. This is going to be state of the art wall Posted: March 29, 2018 at 08:32 PM (#5645337)
First impressions from Angels fans?
   67. eric Posted: March 29, 2018 at 11:58 PM (#5645399)
He's got a higher season BA than Mr. 0-6, Mike Trout.

I will go out on a limb and guess that's not true by the end of the season.
   68. Swedish Chef Posted: April 08, 2018 at 06:03 PM (#5649945)
Nah, he'll be fine.
   69. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: April 08, 2018 at 06:54 PM (#5649980)
Way to go out on a limb there.
   70. Jess Franco Posted: April 08, 2018 at 07:16 PM (#5649983)
People will cling to ST results to the End of Time.
   71. PreservedFish Posted: April 08, 2018 at 08:05 PM (#5649996)
Ahem

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