Manny and Pet Shop Boys. Mike Piazza can't wait to join the fruity guys in halos and togas.

Remember when Ortiz said Pedro wasn't going to the Mets? Good times.

With Manny gone in 2006, will Mike Lowell bat behind Big Papi? Or, should we start calling him Big Caminata now?

Everybody's Talking At Me: The Manny Ramirez Take

Everybody's talking at me.
Don't read a word Gammons is writing,
Only the echoes of my mind.
People stopping staring,
When I miss my cut-off man,
He's just a shadow in my eyes.

I'm going where the sun keeps shining
When I don't run hard.
Going where the D.H. spot is mine.
Backing off of the Back Bay wind,
Sailing on summer breeze
And skipping to the Pacific, like a stone.

I'm going where Lucchino's absent,
Not a preening pain.
Going where reporters leave me be.
Backing off of the Fenway wind,
Sailing on summer breeze
Skipping to Anaheim like a stone.

“I spoke with him last week before he left for Brazil and he told me that he wants to go to a team in the West,” Ortiz, the Red Sox’s designated hitter, said. He added that soon afterwards, Ramirez contentedly dozed off in his orzo.

Manny wants out of Boston

Remember when Ortiz said Pedro wasn't going to the Mets? Good times.

Remember when you said the Unit wasn't going to the Yankees? About a dozen times. Per day.

I am trying to visualize Manny in an A's uniform...

Hmm mixed feelings there.

Remember when you said the Unit wasn't going to the Yankees? About a dozen times. Per day.

pwn3d

Harry Nilsson is pretty cool.

Remember when Ortiz said Pedro wasn't going to the Mets? Good times.

Actually, he used a double negative, saying something like Pedro isn't going to no Mets. So Ortiz's forecasting skills are debatable.

Alright Sam M., you asked for it.

<rap>
It seems like Manny an' the Sox are done
'Cause Manny don't like livin' in Bos-ton
It seems the relationship now is over
Manny stands in the outfield looking at the clover
So jus' two years ago they put him on wavers
'Cause the Red Sox are tryin' to be money savers
But Manny that year won World Series MVP
But respect from the franchise jus' wasn't ment to be
Now Manny's pissed off; he jus' wants a trade
He'd like to go to Philly; too bad they fired Wade
'Cause in Philly are all of his Cleveland homies
Specifically one first baseman, the man Jim Thome
Now it seems like his suitors are the Angels and Mets
And the Orioles perhaps; Manny has no regrets
Gettin' out of Boston seems to be his passion
An' the Angels and Mets have stars from from his Dominican nation
He would like to go to New York, yo yo
He grew up there and again would be with Pedro
But the Angels are the team with the prospects an' the money
Him an' Guerrero together? That just isn't funny
So his destination is L.A., the one in Anaheim
And I think I beat Sam M. with my awesome rhyme
</rap>

What do the rap tags do, invite the reader to provide a beat?

That was tremendous, G55.

What do the rap tags do, invite the reader to provide a beat?

Something like that. I can only post lyrics; the rap tags are there to express the form that they take on. Looking over the song again, I see that I need to cut some words from the Dominican nation line, and replacing Guerrero with Vladyy makes it flow better. Regardless, I hope Sam M. comes back to this thread to see this.

I've been trying to figure out who the Sox might want to replace Manny. I can't really think of too many great hitters that are available (assuming they would want to replace his production with another pretty productive hitter). Todd Helton, maybe? I mean, I can't see them getting rid of Manny for some pretty good players and some prospects as they would be losing half of one of the most productive duos in the league the last few years.

Giles seems like the obvious 1st choice to replace him. Tough to get and pricey, though.

so you write lyrics ... but how is your flow?

Giles seems like the obvious 1st choice to replace him. Tough to get and pricey, though.

I was thinking that, too. But who might they try to acquire for Manny is what I'm really wondering. Also, if they got Helton or Giles they'd have to split up that person and Ortiz, probably with Lowell or Renteria. I'm just trying to comprehend a lineup the Sox can come up with without Manny that won't be a significantly weaker one.

Anybody guess what the personal issue is? Is Manny's wife unhappy there?

Maybe he's tired of being the only black guy in Boston.

Ortiz referred to it as "a difficult situation." I doubt that it's just that his wife doesn't like it there anymore. Maybe he has a stalker.

Anybody guess what the personal issue is? Is Manny's wife unhappy there?

I was wondering that myself, but heard no speculation at all. Much was made of Theo's dislike of Beantown fan intrusiveness.

David Wells didn't seem to like it much either.

Maybe he didn't like being the only fat guy in Bos...only drinker in Bos...

Alright Sam M., you asked for it. . . .

I think I beat Sam M. with my awesome rhyme

It takes the confidence of youth to believe a rap lyric somehow beats Everybody's Talking At Me.

Actually, I defer to anyone who creates their own stuff completely from scratch; my little niche is to convert the lyrics of classics into baseball riffs. This thread has two of my favorites. So we're really competing in different categories.

Finley, Kennedy and Donnelly for Manny.

I have been saying it for weeks.

I am trying to visualize Manny in an A's uniform...

If Boston would care to foot half the bill...

Maybe Manny has a girlfriend and the life is like UH NO...

So we're really competing in different categories.

Fair enough. I have heard the original "Everybody's Talking At Me" and your version was pretty good. Although, just as one can not really compare Weird Al to Eminem, our work is not really comparable. What song is the Phillie/Mets Dance a parody of? I did not recognize it.

Finley, Kennedy and Donnelly for Manny.

Why would Boston do that? The only player of value that they would get is Kennedy. If that is the best offer that the Angels can make, then Manny is going toi be a Met.

What song is the Phillie/Mets Dance a parody of? I did not recognize it.

The Safety Dance, by Men Without Hats.

Finley, Kennedy and Donnelly for Manny.

Why the rush to dump AK? Give 'em Callaspo, Aybar, Napoli, Bootcheck, Erstad, whoever; just not someone who fills an imporant slot on the big-league club.

Actually, he used a double negative, saying something like Pedro isn't going to no Mets. So Ortiz's forecasting skills are debatable.

This was funny. Respect.

Btw... what happens if we DON'T trade Manny? Will he just not show up?

What would happen?

Actually, he used a double negative, saying something like Pedro isn't going to no Mets. So Ortiz's forecasting skills are debatable.

I believe Ortiz' exact phrase was something along the lines of "Pedro ain't gonna be no Mets." Yeah, it didn't make sense to me either. Though I'm glad he didn't decide to get more specific, I don't think I could take a more nuanced approach to the nightmare that is "Pedro ain't gonna be no Mets."

The fact that he was entirely wrong just adds to the humor.

Btw... what happens if we DON'T trade Manny? Will he just not show up?

What would happen?

Probably the same thing that happened the previous four years or however long Ramirez has been demanding a trade from Boston.

BTW, I can't believe that he's been a Red Sox for five years already.

Geez, I can no longer remember a time when he *wasn't* on the Red Sox.

"Pedro ain't gonna be no Mets."

The fact that he was entirely wrong just adds to the humor.


YOu mean the fact that he was entirely RIGHT.

Well, if the Mets trade Petit for Delgado, they're out The Mariners only have one player the Red Sox want, and he's not going anywhere. That pretty much leaves the Angels, who could put together a darned good package. Would they, though? Do the Red Sox want out of the contract so badly they'd take Anderson and Kotchman? Maybe I'd take Anderson and Erstad if I was going to spin the latter to the Mets, but for what? Jae Seo would be roadkill in the AL. Ditto for Steve Trachsel. Maybe Heilman, but would even the Mets trade him for Erstad? How about something really creative: Manny for Pedro!

The Mariners only have one player the Red Sox want, and he's not going anywhere.

Despite King Felix's leetness, I really could live with Ichiro playing in RF at Fenway moving Trot to left.

How about something really creative: Manny for Pedro!

That's gotta be the most brilliant thing I have EVER heard.

I really could live with Ichiro

Sorry, typo. I meant "Ichiro!"

its just Papi being Gammo

I'd take Anderson and Erstad if I was going to spin the latter to the Mets, but for what? Jae Seo would be roadkill in the AL. Ditto for Steve Trachsel. Maybe Heilman, but would even the Mets trade him for Erstad?

Why on Earth would the Mets want Erstad?

kevin,

That would be a fine strategy . . . IF the reports that Lucchino wants to get rid of Manny at all costs are inaccurate. Because if Lucchino is holding sway right now, and he is bound & determined to dump Manny, then Ramirez can just smile and say, "Oh, no thanks. But I still want you to trade me, and I just don't know how zany things might get if I'm an unhappy Manny in 2006. Hell, I'm pretty crazy even when I'm content!" IOW, call Lucchino's bluff.

So the question is: who calls whose bluff?