Baseball for the Thinking Fan

Login | Register | Feedback

btf_logo
You are here > Home > Baseball Newsstand > Baseball Primer Newsblog > Discussion
Baseball Primer Newsblog
— The Best News Links from the Baseball Newsstand

Sunday, May 07, 2006

AP: Dodgers call up Sele, put Perez on bereavement list

The Brewers are going to get to face Aaron Sele *AND* Jose Lima in the same week?  /faints

The Los Angeles Dodgers purchased the contract of veteran right-hander Aaron Sele from Triple-A Las Vegas on Saturday.

The two-time All-Star, who turns 36 next month, is scheduled to make an emergency start for Odalis Perez on Sunday. The team is still waiting to hear from the struggling left-hander, who was given permission by the club earlier in the week to visit his mother in the Dominican Republic while she is hospitalized.

NTNgod Posted: May 07, 2006 at 01:21 AM | 13 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: brewers, dodgers

Reader Comments and Retorts

Go to end of page

Statements posted here are those of our readers and do not represent the BaseballThinkFactory. Names are provided by the poster and are not verified. We ask that posters follow our submission policy. Please report any inappropriate comments.

   1. mgl Posted: May 07, 2006 at 01:27 AM (#2008136)
It is a good thing for Met fans that the Mets have such a good record so far. Actually allowing Lima (or Sele) to pitch in the major leagues is not defensible.
   2. RichRifkin Posted: May 07, 2006 at 05:39 AM (#2008388)
Actually allowing Lima (or Sele) to pitch in the major leagues is not defensible.

I would have said the same thing about Darren Oliver. But in most of his appearances this year, he's been quite decent.
   3. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: May 07, 2006 at 05:40 AM (#2008389)
Although Sele has been lights out at AAA. Who knows? The Dodgers got a good season out of Lima. Why not Sele?
   4. Halofan Posted: May 07, 2006 at 05:44 AM (#2008391)
Watch, he'll be lights out in interleague against the Angels and Mariners...
   5. NTNgod Posted: May 07, 2006 at 07:10 AM (#2008414)
LA Times: Sele Agrees to Pay Cut and Will Start Today (RR)
Ending several days of indecisiveness, the Dodgers re-worked the contract of veteran pitcher Aaron Sele and promoted him from triple A to replace Odalis Perez, who is expected to remain on bereavement leave through Friday.

Sele, 35, accepted a pay cut from $900,000 to $500,000 and will start today against the Milwaukee Brewers.
...
The Dodgers had planned to honor an agreement with Sele and release him this week because they had no place for him on the major league roster. Sele, who was 3-0 with a 2.43 earned-run average at Las Vegas, was prepared to become a free agent rather than remain in the minors.
...
He accepted the pay cut because he would have had to negotiate a new contract with another team had the Dodgers released him, and he wasn't convinced he could have made a better deal.

Essentially, Sele enables the Dodgers to buy time with Billingsley. Although the 21-year-old right-hander has pitched extremely well at Las Vegas, the Dodgers want him to log another six to eight starts before bringing him up.
   6. mgl Posted: May 07, 2006 at 07:56 AM (#2008429)
I would have said the same thing about Darren Oliver. But in most of his appearances this year, he's been quite decent.

Several things. I think there is little comparison between Oliver and Lima. There is still a fairly thin line between a terrible pitcher (like Lima or Sele) and a serviceable, replacement one, like perhaps Oliver is. And even a bad lefty can be used as a LOOGY. Finally, and most importantly, ANY pitcher, even a terrible one, can EASILY deliver a good or even great performance over some small number of innings. How Oliver has performed over however many innings he has pitched so far this year is virtually meaningless, as compared to his many innnings/TBF in his history. Finally, I watched Lima pitch extensivley last year. It it was not so sad, it would have been comical. His performance (which was dismal of course) was totally commensurate with what I saw of his talent (or lack thereof). He has nothing left in terms of an ability to get major league hitters out. He simply tries to throw as much off-speed as possible and keep his fastball down. He has neither a fastball nor a good off-speed pitch left in his repetoire. If I were to guess his true ability at this point in time, I would say it was about 1/2 run per 9 worse than a replacement pitcher. That being said, he could almost as easily pitch well in one or two starts as even an average major league starting pitcher, like V. Zambrano (yes, he is average despite a terrible start this year). Acquiring a player should be judged based on a reasonable expectation of that player's performance not on their actual performance in some limited period of time.
   7. Dr. Vaux Posted: May 07, 2006 at 10:48 AM (#2008440)
This is precisely why they would still be better off with Jae Seo than Duaner Sanchez. What I didn't see coming was Kris Benson not being toast.
   8. mgl Posted: May 07, 2006 at 04:36 PM (#2008554)
Why would Kris Benson have been toast? Here are his context neutral normalized (4.20 = average starter) ERC's for 02-05:

4.45
4.56
3.41
3.80

Seo is a decent starter worth a lot of money. Sanchez is a run of the mill reliever. So I agree with that assessment.
   9. Boots Day Posted: May 07, 2006 at 04:42 PM (#2008557)
I don't know how I feel about this whole bereavement thing. It's nice that the teams make allowances for the players, but on the other hand, Clint Barmes missed two games this week when he went to his cousin's funeral.

Mickey Mantle missed the births of all four of his sons -- I think three of them were born during the season, and the fourth was born when Mickey was on an off-season hunting trip with Billy Martin. I don't know if I want to go back that far to the Dark Ages, but things are getting awfully touchy-feely.
   10. The Keith Law Blog Blah Blah (battlekow) Posted: May 07, 2006 at 05:10 PM (#2008590)
It doesn't really matter how Sele pitches, at least today. It's pretty clear that the game is going to end with a blown save by Baez followed by Garciaparra & "Past a diving Fielder!"
   11. RichRifkin Posted: May 07, 2006 at 05:20 PM (#2008605)
the fourth was born when Mickey was on an off-season hunting trip with Billy Martin.

What were they hunting, Wild Turkey?
   12. 'zop sympathizes with the wrong ####### people Posted: May 07, 2006 at 05:46 PM (#2008666)

What were they hunting, Wild Turkey?


I think they were after Famous Grouse, though if they'd run into some Moose Drool in the forest, they might have changed their plan.
   13. The Keith Law Blog Blah Blah (battlekow) Posted: May 07, 2006 at 06:04 PM (#2008712)
If you bring beer into this, it's never going to end.

You must be Registered and Logged In to post comments.

 

 

<< Back to main

BBTF Partner

Support BBTF

donate

Thanks to
cardsfanboy
for his generous support.

Bookmarks

You must be logged in to view your Bookmarks.

Hot Topics

NewsblogOT: Politics, September, 2014: ESPN honors Daily Worker sports editor Lester Rodney
(72 - 10:25am, Sep 02)
Last: zonk

NewsblogOT: NFL/NHL thread
(7990 - 10:24am, Sep 02)
Last: JJ1986

NewsblogOT: Monthly NBA Thread - September 2014
(8 - 10:23am, Sep 02)
Last: My name is Votto, and I love to get blotto

NewsblogOT August 2014:  Wrassle Mania I
(92 - 10:22am, Sep 02)
Last: My name is Votto, and I love to get blotto

NewsblogOT: The Soccer Thread August, 2014
(989 - 10:19am, Sep 02)
Last: Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14!

NewsblogBlue Jays Acquire Mayberry Jr.
(13 - 10:13am, Sep 02)
Last: SoSHially Unacceptable

NewsblogPhoto of the day: Bill Murray, indy league ticket-taker
(113 - 10:01am, Sep 02)
Last: Dock Ellis on Acid

NewsblogPrimer Dugout (and link of the day) 9-2-2014
(9 - 10:01am, Sep 02)
Last: Random Transaction Generator

NewsblogHBT: Jorge Soler with an extra-base hit in each of his first five games
(4 - 9:44am, Sep 02)
Last: salvomania

NewsblogTrevor Hoffman's Hall of Fame induction seems inevitable
(15 - 9:43am, Sep 02)
Last: Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play

NewsblogNo-hitter! Four Phillies pitchers combine to blank the Braves
(18 - 9:34am, Sep 02)
Last: Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play

NewsblogOT: Politics, August 2014: DNC criticizes Christie’s economic record with baseball video
(6359 - 9:32am, Sep 02)
Last: Ron J2

NewsblogAstros Fire Bo Porter
(60 - 9:12am, Sep 02)
Last: Ron J2

Hall of MeritMost Meritorious Player: 1957 Ballot
(11 - 8:43am, Sep 02)
Last: Tubbs & Minnie Miñoso don't fear Sid Monge

NewsblogNitkowski: Wanted: Major League manager...sort of.
(9 - 8:33am, Sep 02)
Last: zonk

Page rendered in 0.2592 seconds
52 querie(s) executed