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Sunday, July 21, 2013

AP: Mariners overcome 1-hitter for 4-2 win over Astros

“I would say it was the strangest game I’ve been involved from Little League to the big leagues when you give up one hit and punch out 15 guys and end up on the losing side of it,” Porter said. “But it’s crystal clear how we ended up on the losing side of it. When you walk (six) guys and all four of their runs that score are via the walk, there’s no defense for it.” [...]

[The Mariners] are the second team since 1916 to score four or more runs with one or fewer hits, the first since the White Sox were no-hit but beat the Yankees 4-0 on July 1, 1990.

And as another example of just how rare such a game is, the last time a team scored four runs on one hit with no errors was in 1914. The Chicago White Sox did it in a 5-4 loss to Detroit, according to information provided by the Mariners from the Elias Sports Bureau.

bobm Posted: July 21, 2013 at 02:15 AM | 12 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. nymusix Posted: July 21, 2013 at 06:50 AM (#4499934)
In a semi-related question, what's the lowest game score a pitcher has ever gotten and still received a win for?
   2. Bote Man Posted: July 21, 2013 at 07:11 AM (#4499935)
Bedard had thrown 109 pitches when he left the game. Houston manager Bo Porter gave him the option of staying in, but the 34-year-old was ready to go. "I've had three shoulder surgeries," Bedard said. "I'm not going over 110 (pitches). I'd rather pitch a couple more years than face another batter."

I'm thinking that Astros fans would've preferred that you instead had gone out in a blaze of glory last night.
   3. Weekly Journalist_ Posted: July 21, 2013 at 07:23 AM (#4499938)
Andy Hawkins isn't impressed.
   4. SG Posted: July 21, 2013 at 07:30 AM (#4499940)
In a semi-related question, what's the lowest game score a pitcher has ever gotten and still received a win for?


Pete Donohue appears to have this distinction with a game score of 1 for his 6.1 inning 14 hit, 11 run gem on June 2, 1928.

From 1916 to 2013, Pitcher Won, (requiring game_score<=20), sorted by smallest game_score

Andy Hawkins isn't impressed.


Yeah. I think giving up 4 runs on 0 hits is even more impressive, although we can "credit" Hawkins's horrendous defensive support on that one.
   5. bobm Posted: July 21, 2013 at 07:44 AM (#4499941)
From 1916 to 2013, Pitcher Won, as Starter, sorted by smallest game_score

                                                                           
Rk           Player          Date  Tm Opp    Rslt  IP  H  R ER BB SO HR GSc
1      Pete Donohue    1928-06-02 CIN BSN W 20-12 6.1 14 11 11  0  0  3   1
                                                                           
2         Lee Pfund 1945-05-30(2) BRO PIT W 14-10 5.0 12 10  8  6  1  1   2
                                                                           
3      Gene Packard 1918-08-03(1) STL PHI W 16-12 8.1 15 12 12  3  3  1   5
                                                                           
4     Ernie Wingard    1925-05-31 SLB CHW W 15-11 9.0 19 11 10  1  0  0   6
                                                                           
5         Bob Smith    1928-08-20 BSN PIT W 14-11 6.0 16  9  8  1  2  0   7
                                                                           
6      Thornton Lee    1938-09-28 CHW CLE W 14-11 9.0 16 11 11  6  3  2   8
7      Herb Pennock    1930-06-26 NYY CLE W 13-11 7.1 16 10 10  1  3  3   8
8     Les Sweetland 1929-07-04(1) PHI BRO W 14-12 5.1 11  9  9  3  1  3   8
                                                                           
9      Rube Walberg    1931-08-21 PHA CHW W 15-12 5.1  9  9  9  5  1  0  10
10      Hal Carlson 1929-09-02(2) CHC STL W 12-10 6.0 14  9  8  1  1  1  10
11    Dutch Leonard    1925-05-05 DET SLB  W 14-8 4.1 10  8  8  2  1  1  10
12   Allan Sothoron    1920-06-17 SLB PHA  W 12-9 8.1 18  9  8  4  1  0  10


Edit: refreshing coke to SG
   6. RMc and the Respective Punishments Posted: July 21, 2013 at 09:11 AM (#4499947)
The worst GmSc by a pitcher whose team actually won was Gio Gonzalez (minus-8), in this game.

The worst GmSc by a pitcher who didn't get the loss was (I think) Zach Greinke (minus-11), in this game.

And, of course, the two best Game Scores of all time were by two non-winning pitchers.
   7. something like a train wreck Posted: July 21, 2013 at 09:23 AM (#4499949)
Most memorable game of my childhood: Steve Barber's no hitter

Steve Barber's line: 8.2 IP. 0 H, 2 R, 10 BB, 2 HBP and 2 WP. 14 baserunners no-hitter. Never again.
   8. escabeche Posted: July 21, 2013 at 09:33 AM (#4499951)
There's probably a really great long magazine piece to be written about Erik Bedard.
   9. RMc and the Respective Punishments Posted: July 21, 2013 at 10:05 AM (#4499960)
And while we're on the subject, here are the lowest-scoring no-hitters since 1916.

Lowest ever: Jim Tobin, 1944: 66 (in five innings). 66 sounds kinda mediocre, but 1944 was a low-scoring year; of the 48 games with a GmSc of 66 that year, teams were 41-7 (.854)!

Lowest nine-inning no-hitter: Cliff Chambers, 1951 and Francisco Liriano, 2011: 83. (Liriano's gem came almost exactly 60 years after Chambers'.)

Andy Hawkins scores at 72, in eight innings. (Teams whose starting pitchers had a GmSc of 72 in 1990 went 47-12 [.797] that year.)

Some averages of the 205 no-hitters:

8.82 IP, zero hits (duh), 0.08 R, 0.02 ER, 2.6 BB, 6.9 K, 113 pitches, 72 strikes, 0.43 Win Probaiblity Added by pitcher, 4.13 Base-Out Runs Saved, 0.8 average Leverage Index, Game Score 90.2.
   10. Infinite Yost (Voxter) Posted: July 21, 2013 at 03:30 PM (#4500122)
Weird. I had this distinct memory of Fernando Valenzuela giving up several runs in his no-hitter, but he didn't give up any.
   11. The George Sherrill Selection Posted: July 22, 2013 at 03:23 PM (#4500908)
So, like almost everyone else in Seattle, I've been completely ignoring the Mariners as a lost cause for the past few years. Has anything of import happened recently? Team management fired, Felix traded for a bag of magic beans, the team breaking .500?
   12. Swedish Chef Posted: July 22, 2013 at 03:27 PM (#4500913)
Has anything of import happened recently? Team management fired, Felix traded for a bag of magic beans, the team breaking .500?

They are only one game behind the Angels powerhouse with Pujols, Hamilton and Trout!

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