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Wednesday, November 15, 2006

AP: MLB scout arrested in New York gambling bust

No, no….not Playwithal.com!

Prosecutors brought charges against 27 people in connection with a billion-dollar-a-year Internet sports gambling ring, including men identified by authorities as a professional baseball scout and a high-stakes poker player.

...Also charged was Frank Falzarano, 52, of Seaford, N.Y., identified by prosecutors as a scout for the Washington Nationals and a former scout for the San Francisco Giants. His alleged role in the operation was not immediately clear.

Repoz Posted: November 15, 2006 at 07:00 PM | 16 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Joey B. "disrespects the A" Posted: November 15, 2006 at 07:36 PM (#2238771)
Well, Falzarano definitely isn't getting into the Hall of Fame.
   2. Rich Rifkin I Posted: November 15, 2006 at 10:35 PM (#2238924)
"The scheme involved placing sports bets through bookies via a secure Internet site. The bets were taken on all kinds of sports, including football, baseball, basketball, hockey, car racing, and golf."

It's said so often that it becomes tiresome -- but these "crimes" ought not be considered crimes at all. We used to actually have "a free country." And in "a free country," you would have the right to place bets, if that is what you like to do with your money.

Alas, in the nanny state, America is no longer a free country.
   3. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: November 15, 2006 at 11:16 PM (#2238966)
Alas, in the nanny state, America is no longer a free country.
And when was that universally legal gambling era in American history? I assume from the Puritans through the Southern Baptists, Mormons, fin-de-siecle Populists, etc., that gambling has been deterred in much of the US at any time in history.
   4. Sexy Lizard Posted: November 15, 2006 at 11:18 PM (#2238967)
It's said so often that it becomes tiresome -- but these "crimes" ought not be considered crimes at all. We used to actually have "a free country." And in "a free country," you would have the right to place bets, if that is what you like to do with your money.

Alas, in the nanny state, America is no longer a free country.


I don't want to start a political discussion, but it's not possible to find a period in American history in which morality wasn't legislated. It litereally goes back to the Pilgrims. To use the example here, gambling was generally illegail in New England, and banned or at least heavily reduced in a lot states starting in the 1830s (after the Second Great Awakening). It has been legal and/or tolerated to varying extents in various places, but never completely, never everywhere. In no place has it ever been a "right", in that any state can ban it pretty much whenever they want to. And, historically, they often have.

I'm not trying to argue either way as to what *should* be legal and what *should* be a right, just to say that the blame doesn't necessarily lie with the "nanny state" but rather is a longstanding part of America's way of doing things. The difference is that now the state's enforcement tools are much greater than ever before.
   5. Tom Poquette Posted: November 15, 2006 at 11:23 PM (#2238969)
You still have the right to place bets...there is no federal law stating it is illegal to make bets. Take them, yes. Make them, no. These guys set their servers and websites up out of the country, but still had agents collecting and making payments in the country.
   6. The importance of being Ernest Riles Posted: November 15, 2006 at 11:25 PM (#2238970)
I forget how puritanical the northeast is. I can't even buy a bottle of wine at the grocery store, and the majority of fellow voters in this state declined the opportunity to do so.
   7. sardonic Posted: November 15, 2006 at 11:52 PM (#2238982)
I can't even buy a bottle of wine at the grocery store, and the majority of fellow voters in this state declined the opportunity to do so.


Are you friggin kidding me? I had no idea it was that bad.
   8. Margo Adams FC Posted: November 15, 2006 at 11:58 PM (#2238991)
I'm shocked that LoDuca's name didn't come up here
   9. DCW3 Posted: November 16, 2006 at 12:14 AM (#2239001)
Prosecutors brought charges against 27 people in connection with a billion-dollar-a-year Internet sports gambling ring, including men identified by authorities as a professional baseball scout and a high-stakes poker player.

A scout involved with computers? I'm afraid I don't understand.
   10. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: November 16, 2006 at 12:15 AM (#2239005)
It litereally goes back to the Pilgrims

the Boston Pilgrims?
   11. Repoz Posted: November 16, 2006 at 12:32 AM (#2239025)
A scout involved with computers?

Somebody should set up a roundtable debate on this...
   12. Flynn Posted: November 16, 2006 at 12:37 AM (#2239031)
A nice example of how the Mafia is still very much extant in this country. Which should tell Mr Rifkin to temper Libertarian talking points time.
   13. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: November 16, 2006 at 12:44 AM (#2239040)
I'm shocked that LoDuca's name didn't come up here

no, that'll come up in the underage trafficking bust
   14. Rich Rifkin I Posted: November 16, 2006 at 04:30 AM (#2239179)
Which should tell Mr Rifkin to temper Libertarian talking points time.

I'm not a Libertarian. But I just don't see how it is the state's business if person A and person B want to make a wager with each other. That is essentially what went on here. Because it is illegal, I do believe the law ought to be enforced. But I'd prefer that the law be changed.

A nice example of how the Mafia is still very much extant in this country.

If making wagers on sports were legal (and regulated, as in Nevada), the Mafia would be the big losers.
   15. MM1f Posted: November 16, 2006 at 07:27 PM (#2239636)
"A nice example of how the Mafia is still very much extant in this country. Which should tell Mr Rifkin to temper Libertarian talking points time."

Because legalized gambling would benefit organizations that conduct illegal affairs how?
   16. Swedish Chef Posted: November 16, 2006 at 07:42 PM (#2239659)
Because legalized gambling would benefit organizations that conduct illegal affairs how?

Fix matches, bribe referees or players, or, as in one of the more extreme cases, buy a club and tank a game 0-8. Profit!

Not at all unusual in soccer nowadays.

(The club in question was AC Allianssi of Finland, which was bought by a belgian-based Chinese "businessman" who normally fixed games in the Belgian league).

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