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Monday, April 15, 2013

April 15, 2013 OMNICHATTER

It’s not only Jackie Robinson Day… it’s also Patriots’ Day! So that means, y’know, 11:05 start for Boston-Tampa. Sadly, the Cubs have the day off, presumably because we can’t have nice things.

Other things to watch: Buerhle faces his old Chicago teammates, Cliff Lee goes for a 3-0 start, and the Dodgers face the Carlos Quentin-less Padres.

Gamingboy Posted: April 15, 2013 at 12:10 AM | 178 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Dan Posted: April 15, 2013 at 07:30 AM (#4414290)
Light schedule for Jackie Robinson Day. I guess most teams don't get to honor him this year? Or will some wear #42 tomorrow?
   2. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: April 15, 2013 at 07:57 AM (#4414301)
Probably tomorrow. I know the Sox and Indians are wearing 42 in Cleveland tomorrow night.
   3. JE (Jason Epstein) Posted: April 15, 2013 at 08:01 AM (#4414304)
Minneapolis is expecting mostly sunny skies and a daytime high of 45. Alas, the Angels and Twins don't get underway until 7.05pm CDT.
   4. realteamcoach Posted: April 15, 2013 at 09:30 AM (#4414342)
Anyone here use a proxy site to watch games on mlb.tv? I am blacked out from certain games, and have looked into proxy sites. Anyone use them? Which ones work best?
   5. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: April 15, 2013 at 10:45 AM (#4414390)
Is it still snowing to beat the band in Minny? Are they going to get the Angels-Twins game in?
   6. Gamingboy Posted: April 15, 2013 at 10:54 AM (#4414401)

Light schedule for Jackie Robinson Day. I guess most teams don't get to honor him this year? Or will some wear #42 tomorrow?


I think it's just because this year the 15th happens to fall on a Monday. As Jose said at 2, a lot of teams will do it tomorrow.
   7. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: April 15, 2013 at 11:13 AM (#4414429)
Is the Red Sox' annual Patriot's Day game the only morning start on the calendar each year or do any other teams have some sort of tradition like this?
   8. Poster Nutbag Posted: April 15, 2013 at 11:19 AM (#4414438)
#4 - Try Unblock Us. Decent, cheap VPN service.

I'm also looking for others to test out and see which works best.
   9. Mike Webber Posted: April 15, 2013 at 11:21 AM (#4414439)
Sox up 1-0 on a Ellsbury triple and a PRODUCTIVE OUT grounder to second by Victorino. Happy Patriots' day everyone.
   10. Gamingboy Posted: April 15, 2013 at 11:25 AM (#4414443)
Is the Red Sox' annual Patriot's Day game the only morning start on the calendar each year or do any other teams have some sort of tradition like this?


I don't think so. I know some minor league teams do stuff like this for stuff like school fieldtrips and such, but...
   11. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: April 15, 2013 at 11:26 AM (#4414445)
Morning baseball! Woo Patriot's day! Second favorite Boston holiday after Evacuation day!
   12. realteamcoach Posted: April 15, 2013 at 11:31 AM (#4414449)
Thanks Nutbag!

Last year on Patriot's Day I sat and watch Valentine leave Bard in forever...ruining a great start. I am a Cubs fan but remember thinking that Valentine would ruin Bard. And he did.
   13. Gamingboy Posted: April 15, 2013 at 11:33 AM (#4414452)
Second favorite Boston holiday after Evacuation day!


Evacuation Day is the day they created by basically looking through Boston's history for an excuse for a day off on St. Patrick's Day, right?
   14. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: April 15, 2013 at 11:34 AM (#4414455)

Evacuation Day is the day they created by basically looking through Boston's history for an excuse for a day off on St. Patrick's Day, right?


That's the one!

We also have Bunker Hill Day in June which not many places take but there are some government offices that close for the day.
   15. zonk Posted: April 15, 2013 at 11:37 AM (#4414457)
The Cubs could really use a week off... I'm not exactly sure what they can accomplish in that week off to return any better than the #### team they are now, but perhaps dabbling in the dark arts might be an idea.
   16. Gamingboy Posted: April 15, 2013 at 11:38 AM (#4414458)
but perhaps dabbling in the dark arts might be an idea.



I wonder what happened to the blood of that goat that was sent in...
   17. zonk Posted: April 15, 2013 at 11:44 AM (#4414461)
I wonder what happened to the blood of that goat that was sent in...


I assume blood transfusions to Brent Lillibridge.
   18. Gamingboy Posted: April 15, 2013 at 11:59 AM (#4414469)
Longo hits a ball longo. Tie game.
   19. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: April 15, 2013 at 12:19 PM (#4414486)
Second favorite Boston holiday after Evacuation day!

I appreciate a good dump as much as the next guy. Or at least I presume. But a holiday celebrating it? That's going too far, IMO.
   20. Cowboy Popup Posted: April 15, 2013 at 12:39 PM (#4414504)
So, maybe I'm a little crazy/paranoid but the Red Sox might have a pretty strong staff. Buchholz and Lester have appeared to be in pretty good form to start the season. Dempster is who he is, which is pretty useful. The back end of the rotation is still a question mark, but not more so than most rotations.
   21. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: April 15, 2013 at 12:42 PM (#4414507)
I appreciate a good dump as much as the next guy. Or at least I presume. But a holiday celebrating it? That's going too far, IMO.


Interestingly, the evacuation in Evacuation Day was more like "Get the #### out of Dodge" day for the people doing the evacuating. Suck it, General Howe!
   22. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: April 15, 2013 at 12:45 PM (#4414511)
Buchholz has had an ERA of about 3.25 since last June. I'm glad he's fully recovered from breaking his back. Lester stunk last year, but he's got a track record as a good pitcher. And Dempster is a very good #3. If Doubront can improve a little bit, they've got a very good pitching staff. It's not hard to see why they project pretty well.
   23. Dan Posted: April 15, 2013 at 12:48 PM (#4414512)
So, maybe I'm a little crazy/paranoid but the Red Sox might have a pretty strong staff. Buchholz and Lester have appeared to be in pretty good form to start the season. Dempster is who he is, which is pretty useful. The back end of the rotation is still a question mark, but not more so than most rotations.


Lackey looked incredible in that first start too before straining the bicep.
   24. Cowboy Popup Posted: April 15, 2013 at 12:51 PM (#4414513)
Longoria was safe. Didn't even think it was close.

Maybe that was a make up call for the non-strikeout.
   25. Cowboy Popup Posted: April 15, 2013 at 12:54 PM (#4414519)
Buchholz has had an ERA of about 3.25 since last June. I'm glad he's fully recovered from breaking his back.

Yeah, I drafted him this year on my fantasy team, to a chorus of taunts. I think he's going to be a dangerous pitcher going forward.

Lester stunk last year, but he's got a track record as a good pitcher.

Agreed, he's been so good for so long that he gets the benefit of the doubt even after a down year.

Lackey looked incredible in that first start too before straining the bicep.

He only had a strained bicep? I thought his injury was more severe than that.
   26. Dan Posted: April 15, 2013 at 12:57 PM (#4414522)
Yeah Lackey should be back within a few weeks. And his stuff was sharper than it had ever been in a Boston uniform. Hopefully he won't be afraid to cut it loose and throw that way when he's back from the DL.
   27. JJ1986 Posted: April 15, 2013 at 01:06 PM (#4414539)
The Rays desperately need to add two or three bats. Right now, their DH is hitting 9th, their first baseman is James Loney, and Ryan Roberts is hitting 5th (playing 2B, but Zobrist could play there if they added a RF). I guess Luke Scott is 1, but they need to call up Myers (and probably Leslie Anderson too).
   28. Sonic Youk Posted: April 15, 2013 at 01:06 PM (#4414541)
Doubront is an interesting pitcher as well. A 24 year old lefty who Ks a batter an inning in the majors sounds like a potential star, but you'd never get that impression from watching him.
   29. Cowboy Popup Posted: April 15, 2013 at 01:08 PM (#4414544)
Who the #### decided that not only do we have to be subjected to GBA all the ####### time because something horrible happened 12 years ago, but also that TV broadcasts have to comeback in time to broadcast what is by far the worst of the solemn national songs?

We don't broadcast the National Anthem, but for some unfathomable reason GBA must be shown.
   30. Cowboy Popup Posted: April 15, 2013 at 01:13 PM (#4414550)
Doubront is an interesting pitcher as well. A 24 year old lefty who Ks a batter an inning in the majors sounds like a potential star, but you'd never get that impression from watching him.

He throws pretty hard IIRC too. He's got some pretty significant things going against him in that he has poor command and poor control, so he gives up a bunch of homers and walks. I wouldn't be surprised to see him improve those things though and you could certainly do a lot worse for a number five guy.
   31. Cowboy Popup Posted: April 15, 2013 at 01:16 PM (#4414553)
There must be something making the ball hard to see today. There have been an insane number of strikeouts for two guys who can miss some bats, but aren't exactly the kind of guys to rack up a lot of 9 or 10 strikeout games
   32. Fancy Pants Handles lap changes with class Posted: April 15, 2013 at 01:18 PM (#4414558)
There must be something making the ball hard to see today. There have been an insane number of strikeouts for two guys who can miss some bats, but aren't exactly the kind of guys to rack up a lot of 9 or 10 strikeout games

Game started at like 11am. Most players probably only got 3 hours of sleep, and are hungover.
   33. Dock Ellis on Acid Posted: April 15, 2013 at 01:19 PM (#4414561)
My understanding is that Wil Myers won't be called up until late June to avoid going to arbitration 4x. Hearing this news only furthered my confusion about the entire service time process/definition.
   34. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: April 15, 2013 at 01:22 PM (#4414569)
Who the #### decided that not only do we have to be subjected to GBA all the ####### time because something horrible happened 12 years ago, but also that TV broadcasts have to comeback in time to broadcast what is by far the worst of the solemn national songs?

We don't broadcast the National Anthem, but for some unfathomable reason GBA must be shown.


I completely agree. It's a ####### travesty. Wanna make the games shorter? Get rid of ####### GBA.
   35. Dock Ellis on Acid Posted: April 15, 2013 at 01:25 PM (#4414576)
Looks like Andrew Bailey is warming up to close the game.
   36. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: April 15, 2013 at 01:25 PM (#4414577)
Uehara was such a good pickup. I can't believe the Red Sox got him so cheaply.

My understanding is that Wil Myers won't be called up until late June to avoid going to arbitration 4x. Hearing this news only furthered my confusion about the entire service time process/definition.


My understanding is that if you bring him up after a month or so you get the extra year of control but they're a "super 2" and still hit arbitration after their third year, but if you leave them down until late June then you get the extra year of control but they don't hit arbitration for 3 more full years. But I could be completely wrong on that.
   37. JJ1986 Posted: April 15, 2013 at 01:27 PM (#4414580)
My understanding is that if you bring him up after a month or so you get the extra year of control


It's not even a month. I think the deadline passed 2 or 3 days ago. Trying to hit the "Super 2" deadline is silly, because the more teams do it, the more it gets pushed back.
   38. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: April 15, 2013 at 01:29 PM (#4414583)
It's not even a month. I think the deadline passed 2 or 3 days ago. Trying to hit the "Super 2" deadline is silly, because the more teams do it, the more it gets pushed back.


How are the deadlines decided? I didn't realize it wasn't a hard and fast date.
   39. Gamingboy Posted: April 15, 2013 at 01:29 PM (#4414585)
I blame the Yankees for GBA. If not for Ronan Tynan and how often he showed up on TV during the playoffs those first few years of the 21st century, I feel like it would have probably faded away by now outside of New York City itself, or at the very least be only done on the 4th of July and Memorial Day.
   40. JJ1986 Posted: April 15, 2013 at 01:33 PM (#4414593)
How are the deadlines decided? I didn't realize it wasn't a hard and fast date.


Free agency is decided by if the player got a "full year" in his first year. You can't ever get more than a year's service time in a calender year, so if you don't reach it as a rookie, then you'd have less than 6 years service time after 6 years. 172 days is a year, so they have to be up for fewer than 172 days. (This should be different for players who are optioned; they need to be down for 20 days or they get service time during the option).

The date is obviously different if a player has service time from prior years. Dylan Bundy would need to be up for about 155 days or fewer.

A certain percentage of players get Super-2 status (edit: looks like it's 22 percent of players with between 2 and 3 years service time).
   41. rb's team is hopeful for the new year! Posted: April 15, 2013 at 01:33 PM (#4414594)
GBA has ruined the 7th inning stretch.
   42. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: April 15, 2013 at 01:34 PM (#4414596)
The worst part about GBA is I can't think of anything more quintessentially American than "Take Me Out to the Ballgame."
   43. Tom Nawrocki Posted: April 15, 2013 at 01:40 PM (#4414606)
Remember when everyone was talking about Jackie Bradley as a Rookie of the Year candidate? He's hitting .097.
   44. escabeche Posted: April 15, 2013 at 01:41 PM (#4414609)
The worst part about GBA is I can't think of anything more quintessentially American than "Take Me Out to the Ballgame."

But they still do it, right? At OPACY, the stretch is long enough for GBA, "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" and "Thank God I'm a Country Boy," and you can still get a sausage if you rush.
   45. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: April 15, 2013 at 01:44 PM (#4414614)
But they still do it, right?


Yeah they do but that's what I'm talking about. No need to shove something else in there, you've got a wonderfully American song in there already.
   46. JJ1986 Posted: April 15, 2013 at 01:46 PM (#4414618)
Addendum to post 40, the season ends on September 29th, so a player up on April 12 would only get 171 days of service time.
   47. Gamingboy Posted: April 15, 2013 at 01:46 PM (#4414619)
I really hope that's ruled a hit. And not just because Zobrist is on my fantasy team and I need an RBI, but because really it's remarkable Bradley got that close.

(It was ruled a hit.)
   48. esseff Posted: April 15, 2013 at 01:46 PM (#4414621)
Trying to hit the "Super 2" deadline is silly, because the more teams do it, the more it gets pushed back.


Also, the most recent CBA extended the Super 2 universe from the senior-most 17 percent of players between two and three years to 22 percent. Under the 17 percent rule, the line fell anywhere from 2.125 to 2.140. Now, I'd guess the line is below 2.120, meaning teams need to keep below four months of service, and probably more like 3 1/2. Meaning a mid-June call-up, rather than the old late May/early June.
   49. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: April 15, 2013 at 01:48 PM (#4414625)
Well ####.
   50. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: April 15, 2013 at 01:53 PM (#4414642)
There's an opportunity for a walkoff!
   51. Cowboy Popup Posted: April 15, 2013 at 01:55 PM (#4414650)
Free baseball!

I'm not sure why Uehara isn't the closer, other than the fact that he doesn't throw hard. He's a million times better (maybe a slight exaggeration) than Bailey or Hammerhands.
   52. Fancy Pants Handles lap changes with class Posted: April 15, 2013 at 01:55 PM (#4414652)
Remember when everyone was talking about Jackie Bradley as a Rookie of the Year candidate? He's hitting .097.

Still better than half the Rays lineup... and that's only a slight exaggeration.
   53. Cowboy Popup Posted: April 15, 2013 at 01:56 PM (#4414653)
A Mark Loretta mention! That dude had some out of nowhere good years for the Brewers.
   54. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: April 15, 2013 at 02:00 PM (#4414659)
I'm not sure why Uehara isn't the closer, other than the fact that he doesn't throw hard. He's a million times better (maybe a slight exaggeration) than Bailey or Hammerhands.


But he's never been the closer! How can he be a closer if he's never been a closer before???

Snark aside I'm fine with Farrell going Uehara-Bailey today. Both are very good pitchers this year and it's not like Bailey got pounded. Two singles is hardly a massive rally. If our catcher could throw anyone out it might have been different.
   55. Dock Ellis on Acid Posted: April 15, 2013 at 02:05 PM (#4414671)
What I like about Uehara is that he's their best reliever, but there's no pressure to make him the closer. They can just use him at whatever high-leverage innings come up.

Personally, I think Tazawa should be the closer.
   56. Dock Ellis on Acid Posted: April 15, 2013 at 02:05 PM (#4414673)
Also thanks for the service time/Super Two explanations.
   57. Sonic Youk Posted: April 15, 2013 at 02:06 PM (#4414674)
I think they're trying not to use Uehara two days in a row, which at least is a concrete reason not to give him that permanant role.
   58. rb's team is hopeful for the new year! Posted: April 15, 2013 at 02:06 PM (#4414675)
Boston fans are so classy.
   59. Gamingboy Posted: April 15, 2013 at 02:07 PM (#4414677)
This is bizarre.
   60. Dock Ellis on Acid Posted: April 15, 2013 at 02:08 PM (#4414679)
The Rays are so poor they can't afford a good back-up catcher's mask.
   61. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: April 15, 2013 at 02:08 PM (#4414680)
NAPOLI!
   62. Gamingboy Posted: April 15, 2013 at 02:08 PM (#4414681)
It's the mask's fault.
   63. Cowboy Popup Posted: April 15, 2013 at 02:08 PM (#4414683)
Well that sucked.

I'm pretty impressed Napoli hit the ball that far. It looked like he was off balance when he made contact.
   64. Dock Ellis on Acid Posted: April 15, 2013 at 02:09 PM (#4414684)
Walk-off double! Andrew Bailey gets the win, making me look slick for picking him up for my team this morning.
   65. Dock Ellis on Acid Posted: April 15, 2013 at 02:09 PM (#4414686)
It looked like he was off balance when he made contact.

Nearly Beltre-esque.
   66. The Polish Sausage Racer Posted: April 15, 2013 at 02:11 PM (#4414689)
GBA has ruined the 7th inning stretch.


Yeah, we always refuse to stand and take heat from the Christofascists around us. Screw you and your imaginary friend. It really makes them mad when we stand up for Take Me Out to the Ball Game and put our hands over our hearts for that.
   67. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: April 15, 2013 at 02:11 PM (#4414690)
He just muscled that thing to the wall.
   68. Mike Webber Posted: April 15, 2013 at 02:12 PM (#4414694)
Napoli being interviewed, generally it seems like there are more catcher's with early thinning of the hair than other positions.
   69. The Polish Sausage Racer Posted: April 15, 2013 at 02:12 PM (#4414695)
Uehara is pretty fragile, so I can see them not wanting to give him too much workload. I think he'll still be used in high leverage situations, he just won't be The Closer.
   70. Mike Webber Posted: April 15, 2013 at 02:14 PM (#4414698)
now no games for five hours, sigh. I love opening week when there are pretty much games all day long.
   71. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: April 15, 2013 at 02:19 PM (#4414706)
Remember when everyone was talking about Jackie Bradley as a Rookie of the Year candidate? He's hitting .097.

Yeah, drawing a few walks is nice and all, but he's definitely overwhelmed at the plate at this level.
   72. Dale Sams Posted: April 15, 2013 at 02:36 PM (#4414735)
Yeah, we always refuse to stand and take heat from the Christofascists around us. Screw you and your imaginary friend. It really makes them mad when we stand up for Take Me Out to the Ball Game and put our hands over our hearts for that.


I'll stand (cause I would have anyway, and deliberately trying to piss off random strangers isn't in my makeup) but I wont take my hat off. That's for the SSB.
   73. spycake Posted: April 15, 2013 at 02:50 PM (#4414760)
Anyone here use a proxy site to watch games on mlb.tv? I am blacked out from certain games, and have looked into proxy sites. Anyone use them? Which ones work best?


I haven't tried it, but I've heard that Media Hint might be able to help avoid the blackouts. It's a free browser extension for Chrome or Firefox.
   74. rb's team is hopeful for the new year! Posted: April 15, 2013 at 02:56 PM (#4414769)
Yeah, we always refuse to stand and take heat from the Christofascists around us. Screw you and your imaginary friend. It really makes them mad when we stand up for Take Me Out to the Ball Game and put our hands over our hearts for that.

It's just less fun because you used to be able to stand while the last out was being made and the whole stadium would begin to stir. Now you have to sit there till everyone gets done singing to their jesus before you can stand up.
   75. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: April 15, 2013 at 03:11 PM (#4414791)
Jesus ####### Christ, someone bombed the end of the Boston Marathon. I hate people sometimes. Dozens injured, no reports of fatalities yet.
   76. Gamingboy Posted: April 15, 2013 at 03:28 PM (#4414807)
Holy ####.
   77. Gamingboy Posted: April 15, 2013 at 03:54 PM (#4414838)
If anybody from Boston is reading this, please let us know if you are alright.
   78. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: April 15, 2013 at 03:59 PM (#4414846)
They've confirmed the explosions were from bombs.
   79. rb's team is hopeful for the new year! Posted: April 15, 2013 at 04:00 PM (#4414848)
This is why we can't have nice things.
   80. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: April 15, 2013 at 04:00 PM (#4414849)
Third bomb exploded in a controlled setting by police.
   81. TomH Posted: April 15, 2013 at 04:03 PM (#4414851)
wow, 66, you must be such fun to sit with.

I agree that one song, TMOTTBG, would be best for the 7th inning stretch. It's A BALL GAME! As much as I personally love to sing GBA, I & most of my like-minded friends don't really care much if others don't join in; I mean, I might be out for a hot dog too then. But it's part of a country's culture and heritage for the past few hundred years, as much as the Pledge of Allegiance is (do you take your hand OFF of your heart when we get to the 'under God' part?!); am I not allowed to remind the guy next to me to take of his hat during the SSB, because maybe he simply forgot? Am I a "Americofascist" if I say something?
I myself have never witnessed any rude behavior at a ballpark from people griping about someone not standing during GBA. I hope if I did that I would be man enough to mention to them later that their so-called 'witness' ain't coming acorss too well. OTOH, you don't want to try to count the rude comments made on BBTF from people who butt into otherwise-baseball threads commenting about how they don't like Deists. What would a rational person conclude from that?

   82. JJ1986 Posted: April 15, 2013 at 04:18 PM (#4414864)
I never stand up for GBA and have not been bothered about it once. People gave dirty looks in 2002, but no one cares anymore. Lots of people don't stand up.
   83. Dale Sams Posted: April 15, 2013 at 05:59 PM (#4414995)
But it's part of a country's culture and heritage for the past few hundred years, as much as the Pledge of Allegiance is


Bad timing or no..but..no. Neither GBA nor the POA have been around for 'hundreds of years'.
   84. Dan Posted: April 15, 2013 at 06:07 PM (#4415004)
And "under God" has only been part of the pledge since the 1950s.
   85. Tom Nawrocki Posted: April 15, 2013 at 06:23 PM (#4415015)
Rockies-Mets have been postponed tonight (it's been snowing all afternoon here, about ten miles from Coors Field), will try to play a split doubleheader tomorrow. It's supposed to precipitate through Wednesday, although at least tomorrow it looks more like freezing rain than snow.
   86. AndrewJ Posted: April 15, 2013 at 06:30 PM (#4415021)
Don't know who here (if anyone) is in Boston, but hope everybody's safe.
   87. Dan Posted: April 15, 2013 at 06:32 PM (#4415022)
Kind of rooting that that triple header to take place in Colorado. Supposedly they got permission from MLB for it if they need to do it, right?
   88. Random Transaction Generator Posted: April 15, 2013 at 06:42 PM (#4415028)
The plus for being a Blue Jays fan is half our games don't involve the GBA interruption.
   89. Tom Nawrocki Posted: April 15, 2013 at 06:50 PM (#4415033)
Kind of rooting that that triple header to take place in Colorado. Supposedly they got permission from MLB for it if they need to do it, right?


No, it was just a joke.
   90. Joey B.: posting for the kids of northeast Ohio Posted: April 15, 2013 at 06:56 PM (#4415040)
The Marlins have scored 20 runs in their first 12 games. Wow. We could be looking at the worst offensive team in the modern era.
   91. TomH Posted: April 15, 2013 at 07:13 PM (#4415060)
Dale, you are absolutely correct about the POA phrase; thanks for the reminder. But I guess I didn't mean hundreds of years about those two items in particular. We certainly could go back to 1800 and find other recitations and songs with that intent (even more overtly stated), obviously.

Back to baseball, what's odd about the Marlins is that their BB-KO ratio (as hitters) is actually above avg. But zero power hurts, as does likely some poorly aimed grounders or flies.
   92. TomH Posted: April 15, 2013 at 07:15 PM (#4415063)
another oddity; I expected the Nationals to be a great defensive team. They lead the majors in errors.
   93. JJ1986 Posted: April 15, 2013 at 07:16 PM (#4415065)
The Marlins only managed to fill two rows of seats in the lower deck. Then it's all empty behind that.
   94. Bourbon Samurai in Asia Posted: April 15, 2013 at 07:29 PM (#4415071)
Man, no tonic for a bad streak like playing the Marlins.
   95. Bourbon Samurai in Asia Posted: April 15, 2013 at 07:29 PM (#4415072)
another oddity; I expected the Nationals to be a great defensive team. They lead the majors in errors.

Zimmerman's throwing is a real concern. Everything else I expect to even out.
   96. Dale Sams Posted: April 15, 2013 at 07:30 PM (#4415073)
Re: Marlins game...It would be nice if the umps started calling people safe when they are actually safe, regardless of how badly the ball beat them. #Harpergothisfootin.
   97. rb's team is hopeful for the new year! Posted: April 15, 2013 at 07:33 PM (#4415076)
I wish i could see the marlins game. I'm cheering for epic, epic losses for them this year. I want them to set a losing record so bad the astros won't even be able to dream of meeting it.
   98. Joey B.: posting for the kids of northeast Ohio Posted: April 15, 2013 at 07:36 PM (#4415078)
However you may feel about the owner, I can't help but feel kind of bad for Mike Redmond. He has about as thankless a job as you can have in the majors right now.
   99. Bourbon Samurai in Asia Posted: April 15, 2013 at 07:38 PM (#4415080)
.It would be nice if the umps started calling people safe when they are actually safe, regardless of how badly the ball beat them. #Harpergothisfootin.


It's a MARLINS game. They just want it to be over. I expect everyone who can plausibly be called out to be out.
   100. hokieneer Posted: April 15, 2013 at 07:40 PM (#4415084)
Ben revere just made a hell of a catch in Cincinnati.
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