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Thursday, April 04, 2013

April 4, 2013 Omnichatter

Will the Red Sox sweep their rivals? How will this Brandon Maurer kid do in his MLB debut? Will Pelfray and Porcello form a “AL Central Pitchers who’s surnames start with P” club?

Find out today in the Omnichatter.

Gamingboy Posted: April 04, 2013 at 12:07 AM | 271 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   101. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: April 04, 2013 at 03:14 PM (#4404441)
Perfect.
   102. Rickey! trades in sheep and threats Posted: April 04, 2013 at 03:14 PM (#4404443)
There's a natural joy just watching Cubs fans suffer on the internet. I don't even need to watch the games.
   103. Depressoteric feels Royally blue these days Posted: April 04, 2013 at 03:15 PM (#4404445)
You just have to laugh. The Cubs! Always and forever, the Cubs.
   104. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: April 04, 2013 at 03:15 PM (#4404446)
This reminds me of that save attempt against Cincy early last season where Dale left Marmol in to cough up a three run lead when it was clear he wasn't capable of getting anyone out.
   105. odds are meatwad is drunk Posted: April 04, 2013 at 03:15 PM (#4404447)
jesus ####### christ marmol cant you get one ####### out
from gamedays scout "Carlos Marmol had Gaby Sanchez down 0-2 but could not put him away. "
not ####### ####
   106. Rickey! trades in sheep and threats Posted: April 04, 2013 at 03:16 PM (#4404448)
This reminds me of the ill-fated LaTroy Hawkins-as-closer era.


So you're in the late 30s early 40s too...
   107. odds are meatwad is drunk Posted: April 04, 2013 at 03:16 PM (#4404450)
on my god he got an out! blind ####### squirrel
   108. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: April 04, 2013 at 03:16 PM (#4404451)
Neil Walker wins it here. He KILLS the Cubs.
   109. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: April 04, 2013 at 03:17 PM (#4404453)
Wow.
   110. Every Inge Counts Posted: April 04, 2013 at 03:17 PM (#4404454)
Detroit Tigers love making the easy difficult.
   111. Kiko Sakata Posted: April 04, 2013 at 03:17 PM (#4404455)
Holy ####! The Cubs win! The Cubs win!! I sure didn't see that coming.
   112. odds are meatwad is drunk Posted: April 04, 2013 at 03:18 PM (#4404456)
wow dp to end the game and save marmols ass
   113. zonk Posted: April 04, 2013 at 03:18 PM (#4404457)
And Marmol escapes to a point in line just behind Brent Lillibridge for savage beatings...
   114. Depressoteric feels Royally blue these days Posted: April 04, 2013 at 03:18 PM (#4404458)
Neil Walker wins it here. He KILLS the Cubs.
Oops!

(But obviously you're happy to be wrong, so it's not much of a gotcha...)
   115. Weeks T. Olive Posted: April 04, 2013 at 03:18 PM (#4404459)
Heh.
   116. Dale Sams Posted: April 04, 2013 at 03:19 PM (#4404460)
Gratz RTG, I had my first kid when I was 40, second when 45.
   117. zonk Posted: April 04, 2013 at 03:20 PM (#4404463)
Neil Walker wins it here. He KILLS the Cubs.

Oops!


Well, technically is just like what happens you multiply a negative number times a negative number.... Walker kills the Cubs times Marmol kills the Cubs = Cubs win
   118. Canker Soriano Posted: April 04, 2013 at 03:20 PM (#4404465)
So you're in the late 30s early 40s too...

I wouldn't think that would date me so accurately, but it does.

I guess I should have said this save was like the line drive off Lee Smith's ass by Pete Rose that became a game ending double play in 1984. I was a kid for that one.
   119. Depressoteric feels Royally blue these days Posted: April 04, 2013 at 03:20 PM (#4404466)
Well, technically is just like what happens you multiply a negative number times a negative number.... Walker kills the Cubs times Marmol kills the Cubs = Cubs win
You just blew my mind with math, zonk.
   120. zonk Posted: April 04, 2013 at 03:22 PM (#4404470)
Now quick... Someone get on the phone to Dombrowski and dangle the MLB co-second place leaderboard occupier in saves!
   121. Depressoteric feels Royally blue these days Posted: April 04, 2013 at 03:23 PM (#4404473)
I wouldn't think that would date me so accurately, but it does.
I guess it's no secret now because I already revealed it above, but would someone be able to date me reliably if I said my first DETAILED baseball memories are of the awful '88 Orioles becoming the suddenly competent and competitive '89 O's (Bob Milacki! Pete Harnisch! Gregg Olson!), and my first true moment of outrage was Jeffrey Maier?
   122. JJ1986 Posted: April 04, 2013 at 03:23 PM (#4404474)
Was it Hawkins who once blew a game by throwing a pickoff attempt into the stands?
   123. rb's team is hopeful for the new year! Posted: April 04, 2013 at 03:25 PM (#4404477)
I still call it Primer. I still have a Primer coffee mug.

My primer thong is getting a little threadbare.
   124. Canker Soriano Posted: April 04, 2013 at 03:27 PM (#4404478)
Was it Hawkins who once blew a game by throwing a pickoff attempt into the stands?

Close - he caught a line drive for the second out, then threw it into the stands trying to double the runner off first to end the game. The Cubs were up 1 IIRC at the time, and 2 runs scored on the play.

I don't think that was long before he was sent off to SF. I'll see if I can find it in Retrosheet. Late April/early May 2005.
   125. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: April 04, 2013 at 03:30 PM (#4404481)
####! Angels really #### the bed today. Blew all sorts of chances. I still can't believe they held up a third on a double in the late innings with 2 outs.
   126. Depressoteric feels Royally blue these days Posted: April 04, 2013 at 03:31 PM (#4404483)
I've said this before, but it bears repeating: I friggin' LOVE the username "Canker Soriano." And I'm surprised that I'd never seen that joke made before you started posting here. I probably don't get out enough.
   127. Kiko Sakata Posted: April 04, 2013 at 03:31 PM (#4404486)
The Cubs were up 1 IIRC at the time


Of course they were. Hawkins was a perfectly cromulent closer protecting 2- and 3-run leads and even tended to be pretty good coming into tie games. But ask him to protect a one-run lead in the 9th inning? You might as well have asked me to pitch.
   128. Rickey! trades in sheep and threats Posted: April 04, 2013 at 03:31 PM (#4404487)
I guess it's no secret now because I already revealed it above, but would someone be able to date me reliably if I said my first DETAILED baseball memories are of the awful '88 Orioles becoming the suddenly competent and competitive '89 O's (Bob Milacki! Pete Harnisch! Gregg Olson!), and my first true moment of outrage was Jeffrey Maier?


Jeffery Maier was September '96, so that's 16.5 years ago (!!!) Figure you're probably in college for _outrage_ (rather than just heartbreak, which is what a kid would feel), so I'd slap you somewhere near 35-37 with those facts alone.
   129. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: April 04, 2013 at 03:32 PM (#4404488)
but would someone be able to date me reliably if I said my first DETAILED baseball memories are of the awful '88 Orioles


The first baseball game I ever attended was when the Royals beat the O's during that 21 game losing streak to begin the year.
   130. Dog on the sidewalk Posted: April 04, 2013 at 03:32 PM (#4404489)
I'd like to know why any pitcher would ever throw Valdespin a strike.
   131. Dan Posted: April 04, 2013 at 03:33 PM (#4404490)
Chris Davis homers against the Rays again. Maybe it's time to rewrite your gameplan on how to pitch this guy, Hickey and co?
   132. Rickey! trades in sheep and threats Posted: April 04, 2013 at 03:33 PM (#4404491)
My primer thong is getting a little threadbare.


I had to retire the Primer t-shirt a few years ago. I held onto it way past it's "use by date" but couldn't justify it after a round of mid-life crisis exercise and weight loss.
   133. Dale Sams Posted: April 04, 2013 at 03:33 PM (#4404494)
Jesus Davis
   134. Canker Soriano Posted: April 04, 2013 at 03:34 PM (#4404496)
I friggin' LOVE the username "Canker Soriano." And I'm surprised that I'd never seen that joke made before you started posting here.

Thanks. It nicely sums up my feelings on him since he came to the Cubs.

And here's the Hawkins game: May 6, 2005. He was traded May 28th.

(That I remember almost down to the day, yet it takes me 5 minutes every morning to find my keys.)
   135. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: April 04, 2013 at 03:34 PM (#4404497)
This is much more like the Met team I was expecting.
   136. JJ1986 Posted: April 04, 2013 at 03:37 PM (#4404500)
And here's the Hawkins game: May 6, 2005. He was traded May 28th.


That's it. I remember listening on the radio. Ron Santo was more depressed about that game than any other that I heard him call.
   137. Dan Posted: April 04, 2013 at 03:38 PM (#4404502)
I still don't understand why the Rangers chose Mitch Moreland over Chris Davis, and traded Davis for half a year of a reliever while making Moreland the starter at first base. Davis certainly isnt a well-rounded player, but he at least has major league power.
   138. Dingbat_Charlie Posted: April 04, 2013 at 03:39 PM (#4404506)
It would've been nice if this Chris Davis had shown up in the playoffs.
   139. Dog on the sidewalk Posted: April 04, 2013 at 03:39 PM (#4404507)
Nice shot, Turner.
   140. Dog on the sidewalk Posted: April 04, 2013 at 03:40 PM (#4404508)
Is there a reason Murphy wasn't batting there?

edit: I'm sure the reasons are that Turner had 3 hits today and that Collins seems to deny the existence of platoon splits.
   141. Roger Cedeno's Spleen Posted: April 04, 2013 at 03:40 PM (#4404509)
45 in September.
Started lurking here in 2004.

I wonder how many times the Astros will strike out today?
   142. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: April 04, 2013 at 03:41 PM (#4404510)
The call me maybe God giveth and he taketh away.
   143. Roger Cedeno's Spleen Posted: April 04, 2013 at 03:41 PM (#4404511)
...and yes I know it's an off day, but at this point enemy pitchers are going to start sneaking into their bedrooms like ninjas and strike them out in their sleep.
   144. JJ1986 Posted: April 04, 2013 at 03:42 PM (#4404513)
Is there a reason Murphy wasn't batting there?


I just looked it up and Gregerson has fairly tiny platoon splits.
   145. Dog on the sidewalk Posted: April 04, 2013 at 03:43 PM (#4404518)
I just looked it up and Gregerson has fairly tiny platoon splits.

It's more about Murphy being eleventy times as good a hitter as Turner than it is the platoon splits, but it's probably not worth getting worked up about.
   146. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: April 04, 2013 at 03:43 PM (#4404519)

That's it. I remember listening on the radio. Ron Santo was more depressed about that game than any other that I heard him call.


Even more than the Brant Brown dropped fly ball game?
   147. Davo's Favorite Tacos Are Moose Tacos Posted: April 04, 2013 at 03:45 PM (#4404521)
Chris Davis has 10 homers in his last 10 regular season games.
   148. Every Inge Counts Posted: April 04, 2013 at 03:45 PM (#4404522)
Tigers get guys on 2nd and 3rd with no outs with their 2-5 hitters coming up to bat. 0 ####### runs.


   149. Canker Soriano Posted: April 04, 2013 at 03:45 PM (#4404525)
Ron Santo was more depressed about that game than any other that I heard him call.

I always think of poor Ronnie's nadir as the Brant Brown game. I guess it all OK given that they ultimately made the playoffs that year, but still - it's like Silence of the Lambs, I can close my eyes and still hear the bleating of the Santo... "No! No! Oh no!".

EDIT: A tasty beverage is proffered.
   150. Kiko Sakata Posted: April 04, 2013 at 03:46 PM (#4404527)
Ron Santo was more depressed about that game than any other that I heard him call.


So you missed Santo's call when Brant Brown dropped an easy fly ball in Milwaukee that would have ended the game in late September, 1998? (YouTube clip)
   151. Dan Posted: April 04, 2013 at 03:46 PM (#4404528)
Yeah that was an epic squander by the Tigers there in the 7th inning.
   152. odds are meatwad is drunk Posted: April 04, 2013 at 03:47 PM (#4404532)
Hawkins got teaded the day i met retro. It broke right before a cubs rockies gane. Also was pops's bday that day

Edited to add it was my first cubs game. Lee and aram both homered
   153. JJ1986 Posted: April 04, 2013 at 03:48 PM (#4404537)
Now the Mets have for some reason brought the last guy out of their bullpen into a close game.
   154. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: April 04, 2013 at 03:49 PM (#4404539)
Things you don't want to hear about your team's pitcher: that he has a Traschelian quality.
   155. Kiko Sakata Posted: April 04, 2013 at 03:50 PM (#4404542)
Now the Mets have for some reason brought the last guy out of their bullpen into a close game.


Here on the north side of Chicago, the term we use for the worst pitcher in our bullpen is "closer".
   156. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: April 04, 2013 at 03:51 PM (#4404545)
####, Roger Ebert is dead.
   157. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: April 04, 2013 at 03:52 PM (#4404547)
Jed Gyorrko should go back to the jerk store! They're all out of him!

He should start a side business named "Gyorrko's Jerked Chicken Shack"
   158. Dan Posted: April 04, 2013 at 03:52 PM (#4404548)
Whoever is umpiring the O's-Rays game is apparently determined not to let Molina get any calls to pad his framing stats. He's squeezing Fauxsto like crazy.
   159. zonk Posted: April 04, 2013 at 03:53 PM (#4404550)
Here on the north side of Chicago, the term we use for the worst pitcher in our bullpen is "closer".


But in the Chicago vernacular, we pronounce it "############"
   160. Depressoteric feels Royally blue these days Posted: April 04, 2013 at 03:53 PM (#4404551)
Jeffery Maier was September '96, so that's 16.5 years ago (!!!) Figure you're probably in college for _outrage_ (rather than just heartbreak, which is what a kid would feel), so I'd slap you somewhere near 35-37 with those facts alone.
Not bad, except that you underestimated my capacity for OUTRAGEOUS OUTRAGE at a young age...I had just turned 16 when Jeffrey Maier singlehandedly destroyed baseball.
   161. Eric Ferguson Posted: April 04, 2013 at 03:54 PM (#4404552)
Seriously, other than BBC, are there any female primates? I find the demographics of this place fascinating.
   162. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: April 04, 2013 at 03:54 PM (#4404553)
####. :(
   163. zonk Posted: April 04, 2013 at 03:56 PM (#4404554)
####, Roger Ebert is dead.


...and yet, he'd still be a better option at 2B/3B than Lillibridge.

I shouldn't snark - just heard it on the radio grabbibg a cup of coffee... sad news indeed. Met him years ago at a random street fair (printers row book fair maybe?) - I think he was doing some sort of panel discussion thing - and he was really friendly to talk to, in addition to his skills as a critic.
   164. zonk Posted: April 04, 2013 at 03:58 PM (#4404556)
Seriously, other than BBC, are there any female primates? I find the demographics of this place fascinating.


Everybody chased Tina off...though - insert yoda voice -- there is another -- I forget the handle, but she actually organizes or seems to be the head honcho to the SABR chapter most primate sabrites funnel through.
   165. Canker Soriano Posted: April 04, 2013 at 03:58 PM (#4404557)
####, Roger Ebert is dead.

Holy no, really? I knew when his cancer came back it was probably nearing the end, but I didn't think it would be in less than a week.

That's really too bad. Seems like big name movie critics have gone the way of the dinosaur, replaced by Metacritic and Rotten Tomatoes. 25 years ago a good review by Siskel & Ebert could turn a flop into a hit, and a hit into a smash. Don't think anyone today still has that kind of power to move the market from a critic's perspective.
   166. JJ1986 Posted: April 04, 2013 at 03:59 PM (#4404558)
Seriously, other than BBC, are there any female primates?


I think there is a Tigers fan who posts from time to time. Can't remember the name.
   167. Der-K and the statistical werewolves. Posted: April 04, 2013 at 04:01 PM (#4404563)
161: I can think of four or five (that I'm aware of), but only one of those posts somewhat regularly.
   168. Every Inge Counts Posted: April 04, 2013 at 04:05 PM (#4404567)
Well looks the Tigers will lose two out of three to the Twins. Awesome.
   169. Davo's Favorite Tacos Are Moose Tacos Posted: April 04, 2013 at 04:08 PM (#4404570)
Seriously, other than BBC, are there any female primates?


We have one on our island.
   170. Gamingboy Posted: April 04, 2013 at 04:10 PM (#4404573)
Heres to Roger Ebert, a man who watched movies for a living but didn't just sit around- he obviously had a very real appreciation and knowledge of movies.
Also, this is probably the high point of the Twins season.
   171. boteman Posted: April 04, 2013 at 04:12 PM (#4404575)
Seriously, other than BBC, are there any female primates?

Didn't you see the sign on the treehouse ladder? It reads "No girls"
   172. zonk Posted: April 04, 2013 at 04:16 PM (#4404577)
Someone kindly call the guards... we have another escaped lounger.

To the best of my knowledge, HW is the only one with proper diplomatic papers.
   173. Dan Posted: April 04, 2013 at 04:20 PM (#4404583)
Rays being no-hit through 4 innings by the immortal Miguel Gonzalez.
   174. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: April 04, 2013 at 04:21 PM (#4404585)
Seriously, other than BBC, are there any female primates?
They aren't allowed!
   175. boteman Posted: April 04, 2013 at 04:22 PM (#4404588)
Marlins now 19 consecutive innings scoreless to start the season.
   176. DA Baracus Posted: April 04, 2013 at 04:22 PM (#4404589)
Marlins now 19 consecutive innings scoreless to start the season.


When do they play the Astros?
   177. Sonic Youk Posted: April 04, 2013 at 04:23 PM (#4404591)
What a bummer, Ebert just put out a press release yesterday that made it sound like he had some time left.
   178. Bourbon Samurai Posted: April 04, 2013 at 04:27 PM (#4404595)
Gah! So much for the Nats shutout streak. I blame myself for putting the radio on.
   179. Gamingboy Posted: April 04, 2013 at 04:28 PM (#4404598)
TWINS 2013 AL CENTRAL CHAMPS
   180. Every Inge Counts Posted: April 04, 2013 at 04:29 PM (#4404601)
Kind of sad when Minnesota's no name offense is more potent than Detroit's right now. Dudes name Plouffe and Florimon are doing damage....
   181. Gamingboy Posted: April 04, 2013 at 04:34 PM (#4404608)
Please, Plouffe may not have the name, but if he does this year what he did last year, he's probably be the second or third best hitter in the Yankees lineup.
   182. Ron J2 Posted: April 04, 2013 at 04:36 PM (#4404610)
I'm old enough that my first clear baseball memory is watching highlights of the 1965 World Series on newsreel.
   183. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: April 04, 2013 at 04:41 PM (#4404615)
Both are from HBO, Plouffe was in Game Change and Florimon in Game of Thrones.

Ebert passing saddens me, but he's lucky he got to spend his life in a field he clearly loved.
   184. Rickey! trades in sheep and threats Posted: April 04, 2013 at 04:41 PM (#4404616)
Claudelle Washington.
   185. Dan Posted: April 04, 2013 at 04:47 PM (#4404627)
Chris Davis is locked in. He just hit a ball at his ankles on the outside corner to the LF gap for a 2 run double.
   186. The Yankee Clapper Posted: April 04, 2013 at 04:47 PM (#4404629)
MASN did split-screen comparison of the swings of 2013 NL MVP Bryce Harper and Babe Ruth, highlighting the back foot coming off the ground at contact, which was the subject of some discussion in the Harper/Cricket thread.
   187. Bourbon Samurai Posted: April 04, 2013 at 04:51 PM (#4404640)
Mmm. Speed.
   188. boteman Posted: April 04, 2013 at 04:53 PM (#4404645)
MASN did split-screen comparison of the swings of 2013 NL MVP Bryce Harper and Babe Ruth

Conclusive evidence that Bryce Harper is Babe Ruth re-incarnated!

Also, Marlins belong in AAA or below. That is all.
   189. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: April 04, 2013 at 04:57 PM (#4404656)
Bryce Harper's good.
   190. boteman Posted: April 04, 2013 at 04:57 PM (#4404658)
Harper does it again. 3-1 Nats over Marlins.
   191. rb's team is hopeful for the new year! Posted: April 04, 2013 at 04:59 PM (#4404664)
Do you get a whole win for beating the marlins? Or is it only worth half a win in the standings?
   192. Gamingboy Posted: April 04, 2013 at 05:00 PM (#4404666)
Bryce Harper: We are all witness.
   193. boteman Posted: April 04, 2013 at 05:02 PM (#4404669)
in re: wiki from earlier, I never associated wiki Gonzalez with BBTF/Primer. I thought it was an independent site, hence my appeal. At a glance just now it seems to be much more substantial than the last time I looked at it, so maybe it isn't neglected after all.
   194. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: April 04, 2013 at 05:03 PM (#4404670)

Kind of sad when Minnesota's no name offense is more potent than Detroit's right now. Dudes name Plouffe and Florimon are doing damage....


Alfonso Soriano is available.
   195. Der-K and the statistical werewolves. Posted: April 04, 2013 at 05:04 PM (#4404672)
193: i think it's pretty neglected - or at least it was the last time i looked at it a year or so back.
   196. Eric Ferguson Posted: April 04, 2013 at 05:06 PM (#4404673)
If nothing else, the BBTF Wiki link on the homepage could be put in a more prominent position. /backseatwebdesign
   197. Dan Posted: April 04, 2013 at 05:10 PM (#4404679)
Mike Morse has 4 home runs already??
   198. Depressoteric feels Royally blue these days Posted: April 04, 2013 at 05:12 PM (#4404683)
Michael Morse can't possible keep this pace up, can he? Already at four homers with the Mariners. Two in Game 2, one last night, one so far today.

For an acquisition which was universally panned in M's-world, he's making a lot of people eat their words.

EDIT: Coke to Dan!
   199. Der-K and the statistical werewolves. Posted: April 04, 2013 at 05:17 PM (#4404692)
I know this is more dugout material, but:
Tyler Greene (the ex-big leaguer, not the Philly Low-A 2B) joined the Pale Hose AAA squad.
Nats signed Chris Young (the pitcher, not the center fielder) to a minor league deal.
Jason Donald was successfully outrighted to AAA.

Also, Bowie put both Dylan and Bobby Bundy on the DL - which isn't all that newsworthy (as Dylan, the uberprospect of the two, isn't that hurt) but is neat symmetry.
   200. zonk Posted: April 04, 2013 at 05:22 PM (#4404698)
I don't know why, but I'm very happy to see Chris Davis succeed... I haven't read or heard anything about him that particularly endears him to me, there's nothing about him that I particularly feel kindred about, etc. Maybe it's just because in past OOTP versions, he's one of those guys I would constantly snag off waivers/trade flotsam for and he often turned into a semi-useful player... but for whatever reason, I like seeing him succeed.
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