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Monday, April 08, 2013

April 8, 2013 OMNICHATTER

More teams have their home openers as the second full week of baseball begins…

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   1. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: April 08, 2013 at 08:35 AM (#4407273)
for general amusement I had relatives who went to the reds/nationals game yesterday which featured the ace pitching matchup. anyway, thought folks might enjoy the feedback from the daughter-in-law who is a baseball fan but not a hard-core baseball fan:

--the nationals defense is terrible
--jayson werth is gross.
--when told that johnny cueto is listed at 5'10" she responded, 'sure if he's wearing steve maddens'
--watching todd frazier bat (they were on the 3rd base side) she said he 'looks like a little kid trying to hold it'
   2. Dan Posted: April 08, 2013 at 10:31 AM (#4407339)
The first point isn't really accurate. Ian Desmond's defense has been terrible so far this year, but their defense at every other position is between good and excellent. And while Desmond won't be winning any gold gloves, he's normally solid enough at SS. I do wonder if the defense wouldn't be improved by swapping Espinosa and Desmond though. Espinosa seems to be the better defender, so he'd probably improve the overall defense if he was at SS.
   3. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: April 08, 2013 at 10:33 AM (#4407341)
dan

for heaven's sake, I wrote that it was for reading pleasure and that the individual is just a fan not a hard core fan

I thought folks would find the post funny. not an opportunity to dissect

cripes
   4. Lassus Posted: April 08, 2013 at 10:36 AM (#4407346)
The first point isn't really accurate.

However, my GF agrees the second point is dead on.
   5. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: April 08, 2013 at 10:40 AM (#4407350)
My gf likes Werth, or liked the Phillies version, because he didn't have a big fat ass like a lot of ballplayers.
   6. cardsfanboy Posted: April 08, 2013 at 11:02 AM (#4407376)
The first point isn't really accurate. Ian Desmond's defense has been terrible so far this year, but their defense at every other position is between good and excellent.


The first point was pretty accurate for the game the Nationals played yesterday. Not just Ian Desmond.

   7. zonk Posted: April 08, 2013 at 11:18 AM (#4407396)
Wrigley home opener... which doesn't feel right because there are no snow flakes in the forecast. Still - supposed to be a wet day, but temps may get into the mid-60s, which is wholly too warm for the home opener as it probably makes it impossible for Brent Lillibridge to splinter should he get jammed with a good fastball.... more's the pity.
   8. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: April 08, 2013 at 11:25 AM (#4407402)
I suppose since the shortstop handles so many defensive chances, if he is bad then your defense is going to look bad.
   9. bunyon Posted: April 08, 2013 at 11:26 AM (#4407404)
cfb is right, the Nats looked awful yesterday.

I also got to wondering about the handling of Strasberg. For the record, I thought he should have stayed active through the playoffs last year (just for context of where I came down on all that).

In the opener, they pull after seven strong innings, with him cruising, and having only thrown 80 some pitches.

In this game, they leave him in for 114 pitches where he never seemed strong, never had control but it was only 5 and a third.

It seems to me they should have let him finish the opener and should have pulled him at his first PA yesterday.
   10. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: April 08, 2013 at 11:30 AM (#4407410)
bunyon

he was sure throwing hard as h8ll. and the strike zone was erratic

and if fumblefingers makes some plays he gets through 7 innings probably
   11. cardsfanboy Posted: April 08, 2013 at 11:37 AM (#4407426)
In this game, they leave him in for 114 pitches where he never seemed strong, never had control but it was only 5 and a third.


It's really tough in this day and age, for a manager to pull a pitcher before completing the fifth inning. Funny thing about pitch counts is that they may have reduced(or eliminated) the complete game stat, but at the same time, they have encouraged managers to keep pitchers in longer than they should be. Although to be fair, Strasburg's performance yesterday may not be the best example of that.
   12. Dan Posted: April 08, 2013 at 12:23 PM (#4407468)
I thought folks would find the post funny. not an opportunity to dissect


I didn't really intend it as a dissection so much as an opportunity to say that it's funny how observing one game can leave a strong impression like that despite defense being an overall strength of the team. And it also leads to the point that Crispix made in post 8: a shortstop is so vital to a team's defense that a team with overall good defense can have a whole game undermined by poor SS play seemingly, like Desmond did against the Reds. And it sure feels like the opposite sometimes, like watching Iglesias play with the Red Sox. Your eyes see some of the spectacular plays he makes and you just think "wow he's gotta be worth playing no matter how poorly he hits", but if you look at it rationally even the best gloves at SS historically have only been worth 10-15 runs per year above average.
   13. The Polish Sausage Racer Posted: April 08, 2013 at 12:24 PM (#4407469)
My wife likes Werth. She goes for the yeti look, which works for me.
   14. Bourbon Samurai in Asia Posted: April 08, 2013 at 12:52 PM (#4407504)
I am quite confident the Nats will have great defense overall by the end of the year, but Desmond is prone to some serious mistakes and Laroche has been out so he's not being picked up in the way he usually is (I didn't watch the game so I don't know if Laroche would have helped). Zim also is prone to some pretty bad games.
   15. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: April 08, 2013 at 01:31 PM (#4407536)
it was the second baseman yesterday with the yips. that throw home to try and get robinson was extremely poor decision-making

   16. booond Posted: April 08, 2013 at 02:16 PM (#4407594)
If the baseball thing doesn't work for Buchholz, he could get work in Hollywood playing tweakers.
   17. Russlan is fond of Dillon Gee Posted: April 08, 2013 at 02:17 PM (#4407596)
The Mets' road to 160-2 continues.

Matt Harvey has struck out 30 % of the hitters he has faced in his career so far. That'll do.
   18. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: April 08, 2013 at 02:38 PM (#4407620)
I'm sure I speak for most of us when I say that I'm so, so happy baseball is back.
   19. zonk Posted: April 08, 2013 at 03:37 PM (#4407707)
As a Cubs fan, my happiness has already morphed into a resigned "OK, let's just get this over with..."
   20. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: April 08, 2013 at 03:52 PM (#4407730)
As a Cubs fan, my happiness has already morphed into a resigned "OK, let's just get this over with..."


Sure doesn't help that Castro and Rizzo have started at a tepid pace out the gate. And of course, Dumbo ears over at second base.
   21. Dan Posted: April 08, 2013 at 04:19 PM (#4407750)
Hafner hits a 3 run homer in his first AB back in Cleveland.
   22. Blastin Posted: April 08, 2013 at 04:22 PM (#4407754)
Youk, Hafner, Wells continue to play well.
   23. booond Posted: April 08, 2013 at 04:22 PM (#4407755)
Nava opens up the Sox-O's scoring with a three-run bomb.
   24. Joey B. "disrespects the A" Posted: April 08, 2013 at 04:23 PM (#4407756)
Classic manager error by Showalter of leaving the starter in one batter too long.
   25. Esoteric Posted: April 08, 2013 at 04:25 PM (#4407758)
Youk, Hafner, Wells continue to play well.
What if Brian Cashman is a secret genius?
   26. JJ1986 Posted: April 08, 2013 at 04:26 PM (#4407760)
Classic manager error by Showalter of leaving the starter in one batter too long.


I think he left him in an inning too long.
   27. Blastin Posted: April 08, 2013 at 04:29 PM (#4407761)
STOP DOING THAT, HIROKI.
   28. Dan Posted: April 08, 2013 at 04:40 PM (#4407767)
Kuroda's gotten screwed on some terrible luck for balls in play, but his control seems off too.
   29. Dan Posted: April 08, 2013 at 04:49 PM (#4407772)
I'm really not enjoying the Joel Hanrahan experience.
   30. Gamingboy Posted: April 08, 2013 at 04:53 PM (#4407776)
Extra Innings isn't working today. Every year, I swear I'll do MLB.TV instead, and every year, I decide to do Extra Innings because it's just how it's always been.

STUPID, STUPID ME.
   31. Blastin Posted: April 08, 2013 at 04:57 PM (#4407782)
So they were both bad and now they're both good. Interesting start here.
   32. Dan Posted: April 08, 2013 at 04:59 PM (#4407784)
Extra Innings isn't working today. Every year, I swear I'll do MLB.TV instead, and every year, I decide to do Extra Innings because it's just how it's always been.


Doesn't EI cost nearly 2x as much, while providing less functionality in several ways? Especially if you have a tablet and/or smartphone.
   33. zonk Posted: April 08, 2013 at 05:02 PM (#4407788)
Visiting the Friendly Confines has proven to be an excellent way for the Brewers to get well in a hurry...
   34. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: April 08, 2013 at 05:03 PM (#4407792)
What if Brian Cashman is a secret genius?

Old, theoretically washed up players ALWAYS succeed for the Yankees. It's no surprise.
   35. Blastin Posted: April 08, 2013 at 05:22 PM (#4407810)
Yes, use your glove, sir.
   36. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: April 08, 2013 at 05:30 PM (#4407817)
will the brewer bullpen stink in perpetuity? this is getting ridiculous.

   37. The Yankee Clapper Posted: April 08, 2013 at 05:31 PM (#4407820)
Indians broadcast showing Francona saying how glad he is to be back in Cleveland as it so familiar to him, but he got lost going to the ballpark. Two blocks. On foot.
   38. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: April 08, 2013 at 05:35 PM (#4407826)
for pete's sake
   39. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: April 08, 2013 at 05:37 PM (#4407830)
finally, a pitcher who doesn't waste pitches. it has been a chronic theme in Milwaukee that once you get ahead of a hitter 0-2 or 1-2 that you must go to 3-2 before throwing another strike

drives me nuts
   40. Blastin Posted: April 08, 2013 at 05:37 PM (#4407832)
People with steals today: Vernon Wells, Chris Stewart. People with a CS today: Brett Gardner.
   41. Baldrick Posted: April 08, 2013 at 05:38 PM (#4407833)
Brett Gardner caught stealing AGAIN. Great stuff.
   42. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: April 08, 2013 at 05:38 PM (#4407834)
if I was hairston I would bunt. yuni will throw it away
   43. Dan Posted: April 08, 2013 at 05:38 PM (#4407835)
Chris Stewart, a catcher, steals second against Ubaldo. Gardner singles him in. And then they throw out Gardner trying to steal. Baseball is funny.
   44. Dan Posted: April 08, 2013 at 05:40 PM (#4407837)
The Brewers are having some ugly, ugly late innings.
   45. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: April 08, 2013 at 05:41 PM (#4407838)
sigh

backup catcher at first. those things will bite you

   46. Dan Posted: April 08, 2013 at 05:41 PM (#4407839)
Henderson doesn't seem to be an upgrade from Axford as closer.
   47. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: April 08, 2013 at 05:42 PM (#4407841)
dan

combination of poor pitches and poor defense

   48. Baldrick Posted: April 08, 2013 at 05:42 PM (#4407842)
I'm pretty sure something is wrong with Kuroda. His control is terrible today.
   49. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: April 08, 2013 at 05:43 PM (#4407843)
Sappelt needs to do it here, because Castro is terrible in bases loaded or "game-winning" situations.
   50. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: April 08, 2013 at 05:43 PM (#4407844)
dan

twice this inning his defense has failed him.

he just got a ground ball that should have been an easy force

he struck out the good lefty pinch hitter

you are trolling
   51. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: April 08, 2013 at 05:44 PM (#4407846)
now he does look to be overthrowing which is likely in response to no faith in his defense
   52. Dan Posted: April 08, 2013 at 05:44 PM (#4407847)
I'm not trolling. I'm watching him miss by 3 feet facing a 5th outfielder in Sappelt.
   53. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: April 08, 2013 at 05:45 PM (#4407849)
dan

and axford gives up 400 foot bombs to every 3rd hitter

   54. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: April 08, 2013 at 05:45 PM (#4407850)
Castro will swing at some slop here.
   55. Dan Posted: April 08, 2013 at 05:46 PM (#4407851)
Good comeback to retire Sappelt though. One more hitter and he'll be out of it.
   56. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: April 08, 2013 at 05:46 PM (#4407852)
dan

axford would have walked that guy or given up a gapper

sad to say because I like john but true
   57. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: April 08, 2013 at 05:47 PM (#4407853)
the wind blwoing in is why Henderson is going all fastball
   58. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: April 08, 2013 at 05:48 PM (#4407854)
throwing high fastballs all but daring castro to try and lift one
   59. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: April 08, 2013 at 05:49 PM (#4407856)
jimmy might want to try at least one slider in the dirt

just one
   60. Dan Posted: April 08, 2013 at 05:49 PM (#4407857)
Lucky Castro missed that hanger.
   61. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: April 08, 2013 at 05:49 PM (#4407858)
man how many pitches has jim thrown here?
   62. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: April 08, 2013 at 05:50 PM (#4407860)
man castro is hanging in there

   63. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: April 08, 2013 at 05:51 PM (#4407861)
phew

I am too old for this bullsh8t

thank you wind

thank you
   64. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: April 08, 2013 at 05:54 PM (#4407862)
Classic Cubs fake rally!
   65. Dan Posted: April 08, 2013 at 05:57 PM (#4407865)
Ubaldo looks like crap.
   66. Blastin Posted: April 08, 2013 at 06:01 PM (#4407866)
Good start to the inning! Now here comes Ichiro to ruin it.

Edit: Yay reverse jinx!
   67. Northpaw Posted: April 08, 2013 at 06:04 PM (#4407869)
Those of you who said Choo could not play center field have been proven correct today.
   68. Russlan is fond of Dillon Gee Posted: April 08, 2013 at 06:16 PM (#4407882)
Ubaldo looks like crap.

Looks like? It's getting to the point where the most likely conclusion is that he is crap.
   69. Blastin Posted: April 08, 2013 at 06:19 PM (#4407890)
Ah, nice of Robbie to join us in the 2013 season.
   70. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: April 08, 2013 at 06:29 PM (#4407897)
Did Rosenthal always throw this hard? 98, 99, 100 MPH on successive pitches.
   71. Esoteric Posted: April 08, 2013 at 06:31 PM (#4407899)
Looks like? It's getting to the point where the most likely conclusion is that he is crap.
Aren't we in fact at least one and a half seasons beyond that point?
   72. cardsfanboy Posted: April 08, 2013 at 06:32 PM (#4407900)
Did Rosenthal always throw this hard? 98, 99, 100 MPH on successive pitches.


Yes, at least in the majors. Not sure what his minor/college performance was.
   73. cardsfanboy Posted: April 08, 2013 at 06:33 PM (#4407903)
Those of you who said Choo could not play center field have been proven correct today.


He was just taken in by the Molina charm.
   74. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: April 08, 2013 at 06:33 PM (#4407904)
And he put a 98 MPH fastball into Frazier's arm. OW.
   75. Esoteric Posted: April 08, 2013 at 06:34 PM (#4407908)
And he put a 98 MPH fastball into Frazier's arm. OW.
After what the Reds did to the Nationals this weekend? GOOD. Chupa dura, amigo.
   76. rb's team is hopeful for the new year! Posted: April 08, 2013 at 06:37 PM (#4407913)

Doesn't EI cost nearly 2x as much, while providing less functionality in several ways? Especially if you have a tablet and/or smartphone.


But if you are in the home market, MLB.tv doesn't let you watch your games.
   77. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: April 08, 2013 at 06:38 PM (#4407914)
Tie game. No matter how big your arm, big leaguers will figure you out.
   78. cardsfanboy Posted: April 08, 2013 at 06:38 PM (#4407917)
Tied game..The Cardinals just don't seem comfortable keeping a lead.
   79. cardsfanboy Posted: April 08, 2013 at 06:48 PM (#4407930)
Do the Reds comeback against every team in baseball, or is it just against the Cardinals? It seems over the past 5-10 years that these two teams have enjoyed a lot of games where one team came back from a decent deficit to make it interesting.
   80. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: April 08, 2013 at 07:01 PM (#4407938)
Brandon Phillips! That guy's a ballplayer. And yes, the Reds do it against everyone. They just did it against my Angels last week.
   81. cardsfanboy Posted: April 08, 2013 at 07:03 PM (#4407940)
Reds take the lead...scored a run in the 6th, 7th, 8th, and 9th(and maybe more...as we have now intentionally walked two guys)
   82. cardsfanboy Posted: April 08, 2013 at 07:05 PM (#4407942)
And yes, the Reds do it against everyone

I know a few years ago they led the league in come from behind victories and had a couple of other years doing very well.

If there is one piece of advice I wish Matheny would get from TLR, is that IBB are evil. TLR is to the IBB what Earl Weaver was to the sacrifice bunt....

walked in a run...you have to be kidding me. Our bullpen is supposed to be very good(if not elite) this year...hasn't looked like it so far. 4 walks(two intentional) and one out recorded....great performance Boggs.
   83. cardsfanboy Posted: April 08, 2013 at 07:09 PM (#4407944)
Wow....this game has gone to hell in a ####### hurry.
   84. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: April 08, 2013 at 07:09 PM (#4407945)
It's all falling apart for the Cardinals.
   85. Northpaw Posted: April 08, 2013 at 07:14 PM (#4407951)
Choo is back on the plus side for Cincinnati.
   86. Northpaw Posted: April 08, 2013 at 07:22 PM (#4407960)
Heisey is killing the Reds in this inning. He made both outs.
   87. vortex of dissipation Posted: April 08, 2013 at 07:23 PM (#4407963)
Choo is back on the plus side for Cincinnati.


I think everyone knew that he would have problems with playing centerfield, but the Reds felt that his offensive plusses would make up for it. Reds leadoff hitters had an OBP of .254 last season. Choo had a lifetime OBP of .381 coming into this season. That was a change that needed to be made, even if it meant making the defense a bit iffy. So far, the tradeoff seems to be working.

Do the Reds comeback against every team in baseball, or is it just against the Cardinals? It seems over the past 5-10 years that these two teams have enjoyed a lot of games where one team came back from a decent deficit to make it interesting.


Of the Reds' 97 wins last year, 44 were comeback wins.
   88. JJ1986 Posted: April 08, 2013 at 07:25 PM (#4407964)
I think everyone knew that he would have problems with playing centerfield, but the Reds felt that his offensive plusses would make up for it.


I find it weird that the team is now starting Choo in CF and a perfectly adequate centerfielder in LF.
   89. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: April 08, 2013 at 07:26 PM (#4407965)
After the episode of the "The Office" last week, the only thing I can think of when I see Ryan Howard is "Eat Fresh."
   90. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: April 08, 2013 at 07:26 PM (#4407966)
Matt Harvey is fun to watch.
   91. Russlan is fond of Dillon Gee Posted: April 08, 2013 at 07:28 PM (#4407969)
The Reds have scored 50 runs in their last 6 games. Yikes.
   92. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: April 08, 2013 at 07:30 PM (#4407975)
Halladay in trouble early.
   93. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: April 08, 2013 at 07:32 PM (#4407978)
Halladay out of trouble, thanks to a bases-clearing 3-run homer.
   94. JJ1986 Posted: April 08, 2013 at 07:32 PM (#4407977)
And Halladay now out of trouble.
   95. Russlan is fond of Dillon Gee Posted: April 08, 2013 at 07:33 PM (#4407979)
I like John Buck. He hits home runs.
   96. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: April 08, 2013 at 07:33 PM (#4407980)
that was a pretty impressive opposite field HR.
   97. JJ1986 Posted: April 08, 2013 at 07:36 PM (#4407982)
Who is the ESPN announcer with the very nasally voice?
   98. Russlan is fond of Dillon Gee Posted: April 08, 2013 at 07:37 PM (#4407983)
John Buck just hit his third homer of the season. Met catchers hit 5 homers all of last season. I actually like Thole and think he can be an offensive plus by putting up a solid OBP but it is nice to get some power out of that position.
   99. Russlan is fond of Dillon Gee Posted: April 08, 2013 at 07:39 PM (#4407984)
Is late career Luis Castillo with averagish defense at short a good player? That's what Tejada might become.
   100. AJMcCringleberry Posted: April 08, 2013 at 07:43 PM (#4407987)
John Buck, who would've guessed?
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