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Are Red Sox bidding against themselves for Todd Frazier? | WEEI

I don’t see the Red Sox giving up a really good prospect for him. Their prospect depth isn’t fantastic right now.

Jim Furtado Posted: July 17, 2017 at 12:12 PM | 15 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Steve Balboni's Personal Trainer Posted: July 17, 2017 at 01:28 PM (#5494676)
The bad news for the Red Sox is that their farm system is as thin as it has been in many years.

The good news is that they have one elite prospect, Rafael Devers, he is in AAA, and he is at the position (3B) that the team needs most.

It is not overstating it to say that if Devers plays well at AAA, Boston is looking for a six-week rental at 3B.
   2. madvillain Posted: July 17, 2017 at 02:14 PM (#5494720)
The White Sox aren't looking for top 100 guys out of this trade, or even anything more than one B- type and maybe an A ball arm or two. The rumored "centerpiece" on the deal has been either the 3B Chavis or the 1B Ockimey. I'd be happy with either of those guys and some filler.
   3. Cargo Cultist Posted: July 17, 2017 at 05:24 PM (#5494871)
Buy low here, Boston.
   4. madvillain Posted: July 17, 2017 at 05:28 PM (#5494872)
Buy low here, Boston.


There's nothing to "buy low" on if you're referring to Frazier. He's having the quintessential Todd Frazier season. Power, strikouts, defense -- 3 WAR ish. He is what he is. The only chance Chicago has of getting anything more than what I listed above is if somehow a bidding war emerges, which I don't see happening given that he's just a rental.
   5. Steve Balboni's Personal Trainer Posted: July 17, 2017 at 06:11 PM (#5494897)
There is zero chance Chavis is part of a trade for two months of Todd Frazier. He's the system's #4 prospect, and was ripping high-A ball as a 21-yr-old (now in AA Portland). I think they give one of their arms in the Salem (high-A) rotation.
   6. Walt Davis Posted: July 17, 2017 at 06:14 PM (#5494899)
The Red Sox have a couple of advantages == they're leading the division with a 5-game lead on the 2nd WC spot so they're not desperate and most other contenders are pretty set at 3B. The Yanks could use some help there and the Braves are on the fringe of contention and could go that route but neither seems like they'd be willing to give up anything substantial for Frazier so there's nobody to drive his price up. It's probably just a fluke but there are a lot of 3B having good seasons this year -- 11 teams are on pace for about 3.5+ WAR out of their 3B. Wow, Rendon has been going nuts.
   7. JimMusComp likes Billy Eppler.... Posted: July 17, 2017 at 06:27 PM (#5494912)
I'd love the Angels to ship Boston one 3rd baseman Escobar for a little of that Chavis love, but wouldn't expect it to fly. He gets on base, hits, plays a passable 3rd base. Shoot, I'd take that A ball arm at this point. I just want the Halos to quit pretending they are contending and sell off some assets that aren't really that good but help a contender.
   8. madvillain Posted: July 17, 2017 at 06:37 PM (#5494921)
There is zero chance Chavis is part of a trade for two months of Todd Frazier. He's the system's #4 prospect, and was ripping high-A ball as a 21-yr-old (now in AA Portland). I think they give one of their arms in the Salem (high-A) rotation.


Yea but before that he stunk and has slumped in AA since his promotion and there are real concerns about his ability to stick at 3B. He's the sort of B- prospect the Sox will be expecting from this deal, especially if they send some cash. Now it may not make sense for the Red Sox with the division looking mediocre, but I think some team will give the Sox that.

The Red Sox have a couple of advantages == they're leading the division with a 5-game lead on the 2nd WC spot so they're not desperate and most other contenders are pretty set at 3B. The Yanks could use some help there and the Braves are on the fringe of contention and could go that route but neither seems like they'd be willing to give up anything substantial for Frazier so there's nobody to drive his price up. It's probably just a fluke but there are a lot of 3B having good seasons this year -- 11 teams are on pace for about 3.5+ WAR out of their 3B. Wow, Rendon has been going nuts.


Yea but it's Dave D. If there's any GM in the game that would "lose" a deal on paper in order to squeeze another win or two out of a potential playoff club it's him.

Should be an interesting couple weeks.
   9. Petunia inquires about ponies Posted: July 20, 2017 at 02:08 AM (#5496684)
Nope!
   10. Lassus Posted: July 20, 2017 at 08:44 AM (#5496693)
Duda is available.
   11. John DiFool2 Posted: July 20, 2017 at 08:50 AM (#5496695)
Meanhoo, a certain AAA 3B hits his 2nd home run after his callup...
   12. Jose is El Absurd Bronson Y Pollo Posted: July 20, 2017 at 09:04 AM (#5496699)
He's also made 2 errors in 4 games, he's not a finished product. Honestly though he will be here soon enough. My birthday is August 18 (Yankees in town) and I've got that as a bit of a mental cutoff for when they are going to have him here. With Holt back they should be fine at third base until Devers settles in.
   13. Batman Posted: July 20, 2017 at 09:23 AM (#5496700)
Brett Lawrie is available.

And rested.
   14. A Fatty Cow That Need Two Seats Posted: July 20, 2017 at 09:53 AM (#5496711)
Buy low here, Boston.


lol, what did this even mean?
   15. villageidiom Posted: July 20, 2017 at 12:27 PM (#5496819)
lol, what did this even mean?

It means it will be entertaining in a couple weeks when WEEI publishes an article saying "Why couldn't Boston beat New York's offer?"

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