Baseball for the Thinking Fan

Login | Register | Feedback

btf_logo
You are here > Home > Baseball Newsstand > Baseball Primer Newsblog > Discussion
Baseball Primer Newsblog
— The Best News Links from the Baseball Newsstand

Monday, March 25, 2013

Arizona Diamondbacks add missing pieces - Veteran leaders who keep things loose

“You have no idea how important it was to bring in some of these guys,” closer J.J. Putz said, “especially a guy like Hinske.”

Hinske, 35, has never been a .300 hitter in the major leagues. He’s never belted 25 or more home runs in a season, either. But it’s all the intangibles he offers that makes him just as valuable as a superstar.

“Having those kinds of guys is huge,” Hinske said. “It doesn’t have to be one person. It doesn’t have to be an everyday player. It just needs to be a veteran guy who’s been around, who understands what it takes to win in the game.

“If you don’t have any chemistry together in the clubhouse, you’re not going to win together on the field. If there’s a bunch of guys that really don’t get along, you’re not going to have success on the field, no matter how talented you are. We’ve all seen that quite a bit.”

Can you believe the #### we have to put up with Nick Piecoro has a day off ?

shoewizard Posted: March 25, 2013 at 07:35 AM | 16 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: diamondbacks, general, veteran leadership

Reader Comments and Retorts

Go to end of page

Statements posted here are those of our readers and do not represent the BaseballThinkFactory. Names are provided by the poster and are not verified. We ask that posters follow our submission policy. Please report any inappropriate comments.

   1. There are no words... (Met Fan Charlie) Posted: March 25, 2013 at 09:13 AM (#4395678)
Oy... Right, won't be successful. Like the '71-'75 Oakland A's or the '76 - '81 New York Yankees or the '86 New York Mets or...
   2. Russ Posted: March 25, 2013 at 09:21 AM (#4395682)
'86 New York Mets or...


The '86 Mets probably aren't a good example, as they are one of the biggest candidates for dynasty-that-never-was of the last 30 years. 1984-1990, 6 times winning 90+ games, 2 playoff appearances, 1 NLCS win, 1 WS win (and they were whiskers away in 1986 in both the NLCS AND WS of going home). I'm sure there are lots of reasons for why they didn't win more in the postseason, but they're a bad example of bad chemistry working.
   3. zonk Posted: March 25, 2013 at 09:26 AM (#4395684)
   4. AROM Posted: March 25, 2013 at 09:40 AM (#4395692)
86 Mets were an example of way too much chemistry, and an inability to say no.
   5. Hack Wilson Posted: March 25, 2013 at 09:49 AM (#4395698)
My fantasy league emphasizes veteran clubhouse keep loosiesness as well as grit. I'm going to get this Hinske guy.
   6. xdog Posted: March 25, 2013 at 09:50 AM (#4395702)
By all accounts Hinske is a great clubhouse presence. It does appear though that he can't hit anymore. Maybe he'll have some fun in the sun.

Be sure to check out his back tats.
   7. Cris E Posted: March 25, 2013 at 11:48 AM (#4395799)
Wait, 57 year old Putz is glad there are finally veterans in the clubhouse? What the what?
   8. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: March 25, 2013 at 11:52 AM (#4395804)
I hope someone is shadowing this team and writing a book, whether the results are good or bad. I can't wait to see who they add mid-season to further improve the chemistry.
   9. Jim Wisinski Posted: March 25, 2013 at 12:52 PM (#4395854)
They've found the missing pieces.....older white guys!
   10. valuearbitrageur Posted: March 25, 2013 at 12:54 PM (#4395855)
Clubhouse frivolity is great when you aren't under .500 yet.

Once they are in last place, first young player to pull the shaving cream stunt is sent dwn to send a message, esp. If he's a Spanish speaker.
   11. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: March 25, 2013 at 01:06 PM (#4395862)
“If you don’t have any chemistry together in the clubhouse, you’re not going to win together on the field. If there’s a bunch of guys that really don’t get along, you’re not going to have success on the field, no matter how talented you are. We’ve all seen that quite a bit.”


Hinske was an enormous pain in the clubhouse in Pittsburgh, where he complained incessantly about not starting. The Pirates traded him (with money) to the Yankees for two minor league space-fillers, just to get rid of him.

If Arizona thinks he'll help them, they're welcome to him, but caveat emptor.
   12. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: March 25, 2013 at 01:06 PM (#4395863)
Be sure to check out his back tats.


OK, I'll admit that's a pretty sweet back piece.
   13. Roger Cedeno's Spleen Posted: March 25, 2013 at 01:07 PM (#4395864)
So a clubhouse filled with 25 Type A-redass-OCD-dirtball types is the key to "chemistry?"

You think they would end up shanking each other like extras in a bad prison movie...
   14. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: March 25, 2013 at 01:17 PM (#4395873)
There is no greater back tattoo than Steve O's.
   15. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: March 25, 2013 at 01:24 PM (#4395876)
Jeff Francoeur is available.
   16. Walt Davis Posted: March 25, 2013 at 03:51 PM (#4396046)
What do extras do in good prison movies?

I was kinda surprised that Hinske didn't hit 25 HR in his big rookie year which, apparently, wasn't as big as I thought. He did hit 24 b-r tells me. He also hit 20 in just 432 PA for the Rays in 2008. But, yeah, he looks done.

But let's not overly diss him just because he's at the stage in his career where he's wise to adopt the wise old man persona. He was an average-ish starter for 4 years then was a good bench player for another 5-6 years, perfectly cromulent career. And he's made $21 M and has probably had a dalliance or two with some very attractive ladies.

You must be Registered and Logged In to post comments.

 

 

<< Back to main

BBTF Partner

Support BBTF

donate

Thanks to
Tuque
for his generous support.

Bookmarks

You must be logged in to view your Bookmarks.

Hot Topics

NewsblogBoston Red Sox prove (once again) that competitive balance in baseball will never exist | cleveland.com
(32 - 12:13pm, Nov 27)
Last: McCoy

NewsblogOTP Politics November 2014: Mets Deny Bias in Ticket Official’s Firing
(5011 - 12:10pm, Nov 27)
Last: Mefisto

Newsblog[Cricketer NOT baseball player] Phil Hughes dies after “pitch” to the head
(5 - 12:09pm, Nov 27)
Last: Ron J2

Hall of Merit2015 Hall of Merit Ballot Discussion
(56 - 11:56am, Nov 27)
Last: Patrick W

NewsblogSource: Tomas agrees to six-year deal with D-backs | MLB.com
(14 - 11:39am, Nov 27)
Last: RoyalsRetro (AG#1F)

NewsblogDave Cameron: A proposed three-way swap for Red Sox, Mariners, Nationals
(31 - 11:36am, Nov 27)
Last: RoyalsRetro (AG#1F)

NewsblogJon Lester has plenty of options in addition to Red Sox - Sports - The Boston Globe
(6 - 11:28am, Nov 27)
Last: Darren

NewsblogNotable Players Available In The Rule 5 Draft - BaseballAmerica.com
(8 - 11:17am, Nov 27)
Last: Justin T is going to crush some tacos Thursday

NewsblogOT: NBC.news: Valve isn’t making one gaming console, but multiple ‘Steam machines’
(1144 - 11:13am, Nov 27)
Last: formerly dp

NewsblogSandy Alderson says Mets can move quickly if a shortstop becomes available - NY Daily News
(22 - 10:59am, Nov 27)
Last: You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR)

NewsblogOT: NFL/NHL thread
(8709 - 9:43am, Nov 27)
Last: PASTE Thinks This Trout Kid Might Be OK (Zeth)

NewsblogOT: Monthly NBA Thread - November 2014
(1140 - 7:27am, Nov 27)
Last: GregD

Newsblog2015 Potential Hall of Fame Ballot | Baseball-Reference.com
(32 - 5:30am, Nov 27)
Last: bjhanke

NewsblogDarvish cleared to throw « Postcards From Elysian Fields
(9 - 2:30am, Nov 27)
Last: Jim (jimmuscomp)

NewsblogPrimer Dugout (and link of the day) 11-25-2014
(9 - 1:05am, Nov 27)
Last: esseff

Page rendered in 0.1513 seconds
53 querie(s) executed