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Thursday, August 23, 2018

Aroldis Chapman lands on DL one day after exiting with knee pain

MIAMI—New York Yankees closer Aroldis Chapman was placed on the 10-day disabled list Wednesday due to left knee tendinitis, the team announced.

Chapman left Tuesday’s 2-1 win over the Miami Marlins in the 12th inning after feeling pain in the knee.

Speaking through an interpreter, Chapman said Wednesday that he didn’t know a set timeline on his return but that he at least wanted to use these 10 days to rest the knee.

Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: August 23, 2018 at 05:18 AM | 29 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR) Posted: August 23, 2018 at 06:19 AM (#5732120)
FFFFUUUUUUU.....

Half the team is on the DL now.
   2. The Duke Posted: August 23, 2018 at 09:51 PM (#5732661)
Why is he still speaking through an interpreter? Seems like he has been here a long time. Seems odd to still be speaking Spanish. How does he interact with his team mates?
   3. T.J. Posted: August 23, 2018 at 11:56 PM (#5732743)
The ticking time bomb of Games Five, Six, and Seven finally goes off.
   4. QLE Posted: August 24, 2018 at 05:02 AM (#5732761)
I don't know- if I had to deal with Aroldis Chapman, I'd rather have it be through an intermediary too....
   5. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: August 24, 2018 at 08:10 AM (#5732777)
Why is he still speaking through an interpreter? Seems like he has been here a long time. Seems odd to still be speaking Spanish. How does he interact with his team mates?

I dunno, but FTR 6 of the top 12 Yankees** in WAR are Latino, and a 7th (Didi) is multilingual and also speaks Spanish. Maybe bilingualism might be a smart move for anyone considering a baseball career.

** Severino, Stanton, Torres, Chapman, Betances, Andujar. This ain't your George Weiss Yankees.
   6. Random Transaction Generator Posted: August 24, 2018 at 08:58 AM (#5732793)
Maybe bilingualism might be a smart move for anyone considering a baseball career.

With the guaranteed exit of John Gibbons as the Blue Jays manager at the end of this season, the talk of a replacement has begun.

One of the discussion points has been to hire someone who is fluent in Spanish. With Vlad Guerrero Jr., Lourdes Gurriel Jr., Kendrys Morales, Teoscar Hernandez, Richard Urena, Aledmys Diaz, and a bunch of other young guys in the minors that might make their way up in the future that speak Spanish, it might be beneficial to have a manager that can communicate directly with all of the players* on the team (without having another player/coach translate both ways).

*Japanese/Korean player communications are still going to be an issue for the near future
   7. The Yankee Clapper Posted: August 24, 2018 at 12:36 PM (#5733027)
It's one thing to be able to speak English well enough to communicate with your manager, coaches & teammates, quite another to give live interviews in a second language. Players understandably want to avoid the silliness that comes out when they make a minor (or major) grammatical error, or even speak with an accent heavy enough to make them somewhat difficult to understand. It cuts both ways, too, I suspect. How many American players who get by with "club house Spanish", even Winter League veterans, would consent to being interviewed in that language? Although the smart move is for Latin American (and other foreign language speaking) players to learn English as quickly as they can, giving interviews in that language may be another matter for quite some time.
   8. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: August 24, 2018 at 12:54 PM (#5733046)
Isn't Chapman also somewhat notoriously standoffish, insular and suspicious of outsiders? I seem to remember an article about how he basically never left the house when he was in the U.S. and only hung out with a couple of family members and friends from childhood. Granted, I think that was when he first came up, but, having learned what we know about him, would you want to hang out with him? Of course these are all things of his own doing, but it seems to me that it's deeper than just a simple lack of desire or ability to learn English.
   9. bunyon Posted: August 24, 2018 at 12:55 PM (#5733048)
I don't see how a team hires a manager today that isn't baseball fluent in Spanish. For that matter, how have they not for the last 40 years?
   10. Barry`s_Lazy_Boy Posted: August 24, 2018 at 02:00 PM (#5733109)
Every team should educate all coaches in their organization to speak Spanish.

But 'Murica.


   11. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: August 24, 2018 at 02:13 PM (#5733123)
Every team should educate all coaches in their organization to speak Spanish.

And offer English lessons to non-English speaking players, and Spanish lessons to non-Spanish speaking players.

And no, I don't mean make those lessons mandatory, just let players know that they're available.
   12. SoSH U at work Posted: August 24, 2018 at 02:53 PM (#5733164)
I dunno, but FTR 6 of the top 12 Yankees** in WAR are Latino, and a 7th (Didi) is multilingual and also speaks Spanish. Maybe bilingualism might be a smart move for anyone considering a baseball career.

** Severino, Stanton, Torres, Chapman, Betances, Andujar. This ain't your George Weiss Yankees.


Does Stanton speak Spanish?
   13. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: August 24, 2018 at 03:39 PM (#5733215)

And offer English lessons to non-English speaking players, and Spanish lessons to non-Spanish speaking players.

And no, I don't mean make those lessons mandatory, just let players know that they're available.


I'd make them mandatory in the minors for any player who doesn't speak English. Teenage males aren't going to do any damn work they're not required too. It can only help these guys, in life, if not in baseball, to be able to speak the predominant language of the country they work in.

I can't imagine moving to work in Germany, and not learning German as quickly as possible.
   14. Steve Parris, Je t'aime Posted: August 24, 2018 at 04:03 PM (#5733239)
*Japanese/Korean player communications are still going to be an issue for the near future

Bobby Valentine is tanned, rested, and ready.
   15. Jose is Absurdly Unemployed Posted: August 24, 2018 at 04:13 PM (#5733248)
I wonder how many of these guys speak English fine but just use the interpreter as a way of just avoiding the press. Native English speakers should have no problem going the full Jeter if they want too but even people with years of experience with a language can trip up at times. My father has been in this country since he was 15, he’s 73 now, and he still occasionally says things that make my brother and I go “what?”

This is especially true where nuance comes into play. You don’t want to inadvertently say something wrong and nuance can be tricky. My boss is Swedish born. He speaks several languages but we were once working on a document for some auditors and he had the word “scheme” in there. He insisted it was correct, showed me a book definition, the whole bit. I had to explain at length that the word scheme had negative connotations and would not help our argument even if it was technically correct.

Lastly, a lot of guys who speak English fine still have thick accents. I’ve had the opportunity to meet Luis Tiant on a few occasions (super guy BTW). His English is excellent but he has a thick accent and I say that as someone from a Cuban family who is familiar with the accent. Reporters probably are grateful in many cases.
   16. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: August 24, 2018 at 04:17 PM (#5733250)
My boss is Swedish born. He speaks several languages but we were once working on a document for some auditors and he had the word “scheme” in there. He insisted it was correct, showed me a book definition, the whole bit. I had to explain at length that the word scheme had negative connotations and would not help our argument even if it was technically correct.
I had a TA in Econ in undergrad who was from Sweden. He pronounced "marginal costs" as "modern goats." It was a confusing semester.
   17. Pat Rapper's Delight (as quoted on MLB Network) Posted: August 24, 2018 at 05:16 PM (#5733299)
I was in a sales presentation once with a French vendor who tried to impress upon us that our account would be his primary focus, except he was pronouncing it like "fuh-KYUZE." It took him about 4 or 5 times saying that word for me to realize he wasn't telling us off.
   18. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: August 24, 2018 at 05:19 PM (#5733301)
I wonder how many of these guys speak English fine but just use the interpreter as a way of just avoiding the press.

I would bet there's a lot of that.
   19. Stormy JE Posted: August 24, 2018 at 05:21 PM (#5733303)
Meh, Chapman has been in the bigs long enough to memorize all of Crash Davis' go-to interview responses. Now if he wanted to pontificate like Ebby Calvin LaLoosh...
   20. BDC Posted: August 24, 2018 at 05:35 PM (#5733319)
I was at the Ballpark the other night and they honored Bartolo Colon by unveiling a painting of him (by Vernon Wells, Sr.). Bartolo … has worked in the United States for a certain number of years. But when it came time to give his thank-you speech to the Rangers and the crowd, he had someone else read it in English. I'd assume this was because he wanted to make the best impression and be the most respectful of his audience, not because he's some kind of sullen thankless guy.
   21. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: August 24, 2018 at 05:49 PM (#5733323)
I was at the Ballpark the other night and they honored Bartolo Colon by unveiling a painting of him
Much cheaper than a statue, I assume. Lotta raw materials.
   22. Spahn Insane Posted: August 24, 2018 at 06:03 PM (#5733329)
Lotta raw materials.

Sushi, or kitfo? (Hell, why choose....)
   23. Pat Rapper's Delight (as quoted on MLB Network) Posted: August 24, 2018 at 06:12 PM (#5733335)
Much cheaper than a statue, I assume. Lotta raw materials.

Artist canvas ain't necessarily cheap when you have to buy it by the acre.
   24. Greg Pope Posted: August 24, 2018 at 07:05 PM (#5733348)
...fluent in Spanish. With Vlad Guerrero Jr....

Vlad Jr. was born in Montreal and is a Canadian citizen. His mother speaks French. His dad played in the majors until Jr was 12 years old, so while Jr technically grew up in the Dominican Republic, I would guess that he speaks English just fine.
   25. Hysterical & Useless Posted: August 29, 2018 at 11:23 AM (#5735444)
He speaks several languages but we were once working on a document for some auditors and he had the word “scheme” in there. He insisted it was correct, showed me a book definition, the whole bit.


He'd learned British English; Brits use "scheme" = "plan"

Which, as you say, is technically correct, but most definitely has negative connotations in the US.

It's one thing to be able to speak English well enough to communicate with your manager, coaches & teammates, quite another to give live interviews in a second language.


So true. I studied Spanish 8+ years, was accounted a good student, translated a play into English. I was never conversational. It's one thing to sit and ponder, "How would I say thus and such in another language" and something utterly different to respond to questions in real time.
   26. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: August 29, 2018 at 12:01 PM (#5735459)
I studied Spanish 8+ years, was accounted a good student, translated a play into English. I was never conversational. It's one thing to sit and ponder, "How would I say thus and such in another language" and something utterly different to respond to questions in real time.

After six years of French, I could make my way through a French newspaper for the next few years, but when it came to French movies, it was thank God for subtitles.
   27. You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR) Posted: August 29, 2018 at 12:21 PM (#5735472)
This is probably as good a place as any to note how great Dellin Betances has been this year. A career-high 15.8 k/9, career 2nd-bests in BB/9, H/9, and WHIP, and he just broke the AL record for most consecutive relief appearances with a strikeout.
   28. Swoboda is freedom Posted: August 29, 2018 at 01:57 PM (#5735589)
He speaks several languages but we were once working on a document for some auditors and he had the word “scheme” in there. He insisted it was correct, showed me a book definition, the whole bit.


He'd learned British English; Brits use "scheme" = "plan"


Did he say your wife was homely too?
   29. Swoboda is freedom Posted: August 29, 2018 at 02:22 PM (#5735624)
I wonder how many of these guys speak English fine but just use the interpreter as a way of just avoiding the press.

I would bet there's a lot of that.


It is a combo of not wanting to talk to press and not wanting to look foolish by saying the wrong thing due to nuances. I am sure a lot of them have been burned by that especially when they were younger and their English ability wasn't as good.

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