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Saturday, July 12, 2014

Aroldis sets MLB record with K in 40th straight game

His streak began on Aug. 21, 2013.

Chapman surpassed Bruce Sutter, who did so in 39 straight games from June 1-Oct. 2, 1977.

Given the current environment, I would have guessed that this record was like five minutes old.  But 1977…that impressive.  I guess.

Robert in Manhattan Beach Posted: July 12, 2014 at 05:01 AM | 38 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Bhaakon Posted: July 12, 2014 at 07:20 AM (#4749332)
Te record is for relief appearances, not games, as the headline implies. I'm not sure how to go about compiling a list, but imagine there are a lot of starters who have cleared 40 games with a K.
   2. dlf Posted: July 12, 2014 at 07:49 AM (#4749336)
Just fooling around. First one I looked at was Sandy Koufax who had a streak of 77 games (Aug 25 1963 - Sept 14, 1965). Without looking at Ryan, Clemens, Unit ... I'm betting someone clears 100.


Edit: Criminy. Nolan Ryan had at least one K in each start from his first of '72 through Sept 11, '79, a total of 288 starts. He had 2 relief outings in '74 without Ks and 1 in '78. I haven't checked to the end of his career.
   3. bobm Posted: July 12, 2014 at 07:52 AM (#4749337)
Longest Streak with SO>=1 From 1914 to 2014

Rk           Name Strk Start        End Games
 1     Nolan Ryan 1979-09-15 1992-05-27   382

 2  Randy Johnson 1989-04-20 2000-08-20   351

 3 Javier Vazquez 2000-05-16 2010-09-10   349
 3  Dwight Gooden 1984-04-07 1997-09-03   349

 5   Josh Beckett 2001-09-04 2014-07-06   332

 6 Curt Schilling 1993-07-06 2005-07-21   331

 7 Pedro Martinez 1996-08-24 2009-09-30   329

 8     David Cone 1989-09-24 2000-09-20   319

 9     Tom Seaver 1967-08-22 1976-07-08   312

10      Dan Haren 2004-09-08 2012-05-03   250



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   4. Steve Balboni's Personal Trainer Posted: July 12, 2014 at 07:58 AM (#4749338)
That's a heck of a list.

In what percentage of games does the starter not get at east one strikeout?
   5. dlf Posted: July 12, 2014 at 08:07 AM (#4749339)
Thanks for the list bobm!
   6. bobm Posted: July 12, 2014 at 08:12 AM (#4749340)
[4] 2-4% recently

From 2000 to 2014, as Starter, (requiring SO=0), sorted by Season

Rk Year  #G
 1 2014  45
 2 2013 116
 3 2012 112
 4 2011 127
 5 2010 127
 6 2009 153
 7 2008 163
 8 2007 219
 9 2006 203
10 2005 178
11 2004 179
12 2003 210
13 2002 174
14 2001 179
15 2000 196



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   7. bobm Posted: July 12, 2014 at 08:16 AM (#4749342)
[5] You're welcome.
   8. Misirlou was a Buddhist prodigy Posted: July 12, 2014 at 09:44 AM (#4749357)
Edit: Criminy. Nolan Ryan had at least one K in each start from his first of '72 through Sept 11, '79, a total of 288 starts. He had 2 relief outings in '74 without Ks and 1 in '78. I haven't checked to the end of his career.


?? Ryan had one start in 1973 with 0 K's. He had a K in every game in 1974. He had a start in 76 with no K's (he lasted only 1 batter).
   9. bobm Posted: July 12, 2014 at 10:29 AM (#4749365)
   10. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: July 12, 2014 at 10:41 AM (#4749368)
Those longest games with a K streaks are quite a bit shorter than I would have expected. For instance I would not have expected Randy Johnson to have gone a full start without a K in 2000. That 0 K start was proceeded by starts with 11, 10 and 13 Ks and succeeded by 10, 11, 14 and 13 Ks. Granted, all it takes is one game getting hurt early to snap a streak, but between Clemens, Johnson and Ryan I would have expected at least one streak of 500+.
   11. Misirlou was a Buddhist prodigy Posted: July 12, 2014 at 10:55 AM (#4749374)
Granted, all it takes is one game getting hurt early to snap a streak, but between Clemens, Johnson and Ryan I would have expected at least one streak of 500+.


That seems really unrealistic. After all, they only started 707, 603, and 773 games respectively. Frankly, I'm amazed the streaks are as long as they are.
   12. BDC Posted: July 12, 2014 at 10:56 AM (#4749375)
Vazquez's consistency is impressive. A very good pitcher but hardly a Ryan or a Johnson, and yet he just kept punching the clock.
   13. Greg K Posted: July 12, 2014 at 11:07 AM (#4749380)
An interesting record would be the record for starts without a strikeout in a season. Though a quick look on some suspects...Buehrle had zero in 2013. Jamie Moyer zero in 2008.

Perhaps the answer is something boring like 2.

In the last 20-30 years anyway, I'm guessing pitchers of yester-year could get through a game without a K more easily.
   14. Misirlou was a Buddhist prodigy Posted: July 12, 2014 at 11:15 AM (#4749382)
I'm guessing pitchers of yester-year could get through a game without a K more easily.


In 1969, Ken Holtzman mage 39 starts. He had a K in 38 of them. In the other game, he threw a no hitter.
   15. Misirlou was a Buddhist prodigy Posted: July 12, 2014 at 11:25 AM (#4749386)
We need bobm's kung fu to get a definitive answer, but I found 2 different 3 start streaks by Ted Lyons. And they weren't all cheapies. One was CG, knocked out in the 1st, CG. The other was 3, 8, and 9 IP. The latter streak was preceded by 2 CG with 1 total K, and followed by a CG with 1. 6 starts, 47 IP, 2 K.
   16. Cooper Nielson Posted: July 12, 2014 at 12:02 PM (#4749393)
An interesting record would be the record for starts without a strikeout in a season. Though a quick look on some suspects...Buehrle had zero in 2013. Jamie Moyer zero in 2008.

Jeremy Guthrie had three zero-K starts last year, 2 of them consecutive.

bobm, I was wondering if you could re-run the list in [6] requiring a minimum of 5 (or 6) innings? I expect a number of those 0-K starts were early exits.
   17. dlf Posted: July 12, 2014 at 12:34 PM (#4749403)
#8 - Thanks. Proof that scanning game logs with an Irish Coffee in hand on a Saturday morning may not be the most accurate way of researching ... but it's a lot more fun than Play Index Tool.
   18. bobm Posted: July 12, 2014 at 01:52 PM (#4749435)
PI output not firing on all cylinders today

Longest Streak with SO=0 From 1914 to 2014, as Starter

Rk,Name,Strk Start,End,Games,W,L,IP
1,Ted Wingfield,1927-04-14,1927-07-30,8,1,6,50.0
,,,,,,,
2,Les Sweetland,1928-06-30,1928-08-17,7,1,4,30.1
,,,,,,,
3,Glenn Abbott,1983-09-25,1984-07-21,6,2,1,23.2
4,Milt Gaston,1927-05-15,1927-06-22,6,2,3,36.2
5,Sloppy Thurston,1925-08-16,1926-04-20,6,0,4,15.1


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Generated 7/12/2014.

Longest Streak with SO=0, IPouts>=15 From 1914 to 2014, as Starter

Rk,Name,Strk Start,End,Games
1,Ivy Andrews,1935-08-21,1935-09-06,5
2,Ted Wingfield,1927-05-02,1927-06-21,5
3,Ted Wingfield,1925-08-30,1925-09-17,5
4,Mike Prendergast,1918-06-29,1918-07-16,5


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   19. bobm Posted: July 12, 2014 at 02:00 PM (#4749441)
From 1914 to 2014, as Starter, (requiring SO=0), sorted by greatest number of games in a single season matching the selected criteria

Rk,Player,Year,#Matching,,W,L,ERA,GS,CG,IP
1,Ernie Wingard,1924,15,Ind. Games,5,8,3.18,15,7,99.0
2,Hal Carlson,1927,15,Ind. Games,5,9,4.92,15,8,100.2
,,,,,,,,,,
3,Sloppy Thurston,1924,14,Ind. Games,4,8,5.21,14,8,96.2
,,,,,,,,,,
4,Ted Wingfield,1925,13,Ind. Games,6,7,3.93,13,9,105.1
5,Sloppy Thurston,1927,13,Ind. Games,2,9,7.43,13,4,72.2
6,George Blaeholder,1935,13,Ind. Games,3,4,4.89,13,3,73.2


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From 1960 to 2014, as Starter, (requiring SO=0), sorted by greatest number of games in a single season matching the selected criteria


Rk,Player,Year,#Matching,,W,L,ERA,IP,Tm
1,Jim Barr,1978,11,Ind. Games,2,6,6.07,46.0,SFG
,,,,,,,,,
2,Bob Shaw,1960,10,Ind. Games,3,4,5.13,47.1,CHW
3,Dave Roberts,1976,10,Ind. Games,1,7,5.92,62.1,DET
4,Ed Lynch,1983,10,Ind. Games,1,4,6.04,50.2,NYM
,,,,,,,,,
5,Bill Lee,1979,9,Ind. Games,2,4,3.86,56.0,MON
6,Tommy John,1984,9,Ind. Games,3,4,6.75,45.1,CAL
7,Nate Cornejo,2003,9,Ind. Games,2,6,7.06,43.1,DET
8,Jack Billingham,1978,9,Ind. Games,4,2,5.16,52.1,DET


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   20. bobm Posted: July 12, 2014 at 02:12 PM (#4749449)
From 2000 to 2014, as Starter, (requiring SO=0 and IPouts>=15), sorted by Season

Year #G
2014 18

2013 38
2012 42
2011 54
2010 56
2009 62
2008 67
2007 90
2006 75
2005 75
2004 72
2003 90
2002 67
2001 62
2000 67



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   21. The District Attorney Posted: July 12, 2014 at 02:13 PM (#4749450)
If strikeout rates remain as high as they currently are or even go higher, and stay that way for the length of a career, it'll be interesting to see how long these streaks can get. If only 2% of the average starter's outings now have 0 K, what's the chance that the league leader in strikeouts is going to have such an outing? Pretty low.

Of course, if the trend for relievers to pitch fewer innings per outing also continues, then it'll still be tough for relievers to put together streaks.
   22. bobm Posted: July 12, 2014 at 02:15 PM (#4749451)
From 2000 to 2014, Pitcher Won, as Starter, (requiring SO=0), sorted by Season

Year #G
2014  5
2013  8
2012 16
2011 18
2010 20
2009 18
2008 23
2007 27
2006 20
2005 30
2004 22
2003 29
2002 26
2001 21
2000 24



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   23. bobm Posted: July 12, 2014 at 02:27 PM (#4749455)
Total count of GS without a strikeout peaked in 1927. (21% of GS in 1927)

From 1914 to 2014, as Starter, (requiring SO=0), sorted by greatest Performances matching selected criteria in a Season

Year  GS
1927 508
1926 501
1922 498
1924 491
1928 481
1925 479
1921 467
1923 460
1929 458
1930 449



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   24. Barry`s_Lazy_Boy Posted: July 12, 2014 at 02:42 PM (#4749459)
thanks, bobm. great data.

   25. vortex of dissipation Posted: July 12, 2014 at 03:10 PM (#4749463)
Ted Wingfield in 1927 had a pretty amazing season, strikeout wise. He pitched 74.2 innings, and had one strikeout.
   26. Cooper Nielson Posted: July 12, 2014 at 03:35 PM (#4749473)
Thanks, bobm!
   27. Buzzkill Posted: July 12, 2014 at 03:37 PM (#4749479)
Josh Beckett has a shot to own that record?!
   28. Brian Posted: July 12, 2014 at 04:41 PM (#4749526)
Liberal or conservative, DH fan or old school, the one thing we can all agree on is that bobm is the King of Play Index and uses those mad skills to make this site a lot better. Thanks King bobm!
   29. PASTE Thinks This Trout Kid Might Be OK (Zeth) Posted: July 12, 2014 at 04:45 PM (#4749529)
Would you bet the over on 50 more starts in Beckett's career, though? He would have to do that *and* do so without any disaster starts wherein he gets yanked in the second inning without striking anyone out.
   30. Misirlou was a Buddhist prodigy Posted: July 12, 2014 at 04:53 PM (#4749530)
Josh Beckett has a shot to own that record?!


Josh Beckett has a K in every regular season game he has appeared in, 329 starts and 3 relief appearances. Those 3 relief games were 2 IP, 1 IP, and 1 IP.
   31. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: July 12, 2014 at 06:17 PM (#4749574)
For Josh Beckett to take the record, he'd likely have to pitch in to 2016.
   32. Walt Davis Posted: July 12, 2014 at 06:25 PM (#4749576)
I think the record we're really after is consecutive innings with a strikeout. That would put starters and relievers on a nominally equal footing. Don't now how partial innings should count.
   33. dlf Posted: July 12, 2014 at 06:39 PM (#4749578)
I think the record we're really after is consecutive innings with a strikeout. That would put starters and relievers on a nominally equal footing.


Nominally, yes. But clearly a reliever who can go all out for an inning or 60 +/- innings a year is not the same as a starter expected to go 6 and 220. I really don't think Eric Gagne's 10 consecutive batters struck out over the course of five days in 2003 is the same as Tom Seaver's 10 straight in one game in 1970.
   34. BDC Posted: July 12, 2014 at 06:40 PM (#4749579)
Strongly endorse #s 24, 26, 28 :)
   35. Bhaakon Posted: July 12, 2014 at 10:33 PM (#4749635)
Wow, bobm is amazing. Ask and ye shall recieve, I guess. I feel like this power needs to be abused. Perhaps next time I'll say that I don't know how to go about doing my tax return.
   36. Walt Davis Posted: July 13, 2014 at 02:51 AM (#4749668)
Perhaps next time I'll say that I don't know how to go about doing my tax return.

Bob will use P-I to generate you a table of years served and fines paid by players for tax evasion.
   37. esseff Posted: July 13, 2014 at 03:52 AM (#4749672)
Bob will use P-I to generate you a table of years served and fines paid by players for tax evasion.


With all the money to be made in baseball, who would ever mess it up with tax evasion?

And again I ask, who?
   38. Bhaakon Posted: July 13, 2014 at 05:09 AM (#4749676)
Baseball players actually have a bit of an excuse, what with having to file in a dozen or more different states. They couldn't do their own taxes if they wanted to.

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