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Saturday, April 19, 2014

A’s Jed Lowrie “flabbergasted” by Astros’ response to bunt

Holy mackerel!

Last night’s game featured some strangeness, with Astros manager Bo Porter getting bent out of shape about Jed Lowrie’s bunt attempt against the shift in the first inning and the A’s up 7-0. Consensus around the Oakland clubhouse: The first inning is way too early to get upset about a guy bunting – plus, if you put the shift on, you’re inviting the bunt. Why would you then get upset about it?

“I’m really flabbergasted by the reaction,” Lowrie said of Porter’s heated words after Paul Clemens threw a pitch near Lowrie’s legs his next at bat. “He was yelling, ‘Just go play shortstop!’ He made it into such a big deal.”

As Lowrie pointed out, he was doing exactly what the Astros wanted when he bunted – and he bunted into an out, presumably their best-case scenario.

“The shortstop was on the other side, all I had to do was get it past the pitcher, and I didn’t,” Lowrie said. “I screwed up. I gave them an out. It was the first inning of a major-league game.”

I asked Porter about the incident this morning, and he said what he’d said yesterday, “The game polices itself.”

Porter is a fiery type – and with his team down 7-0 in the first, he could well have been trying to get the Astros going. At any rate, Clemens missed Lowrie and really, it all should be over by now.  A’s manager Bob Melvin said he can understand being “perturbed” with an opponent bunting when the team is down 7-0, but it was so early in the game.

“Hopefully, we can move on,” Melvin said. “I don’t think it’s that big an issue, to tell you the truth.”

Repoz Posted: April 19, 2014 at 08:04 PM | 28 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Ned Garvin: Male Prostitute Posted: April 19, 2014 at 08:27 PM (#4689371)
What a colossal idiot. If you don't want a guy to bunt, don't abandon the 3rd base line. If bunting with a big lead isn't playing the right way, then neither is shifting with a big lead. Are the A's supposed to stop trying in the 1st inning? Is this little league or a professional league? And besides all this, I thought the "right way" to play the game meant that you want to win no matter what, that you never stop giving your best, that you bust down the line even if you have an injured leg, that you are giving max effort 110% of the time. This makes me a little skeptical that Porter has enough of a clue to be a good manager.

Actually, Lowrie's quotes in TFE sum it up pretty well.
   2. Random Transaction Generator Posted: April 19, 2014 at 08:47 PM (#4689381)
The brouhaha from the Astros manager strikes me ashim saying "Look at me! Look at me! Please don't look at my horrific team!"

   3. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: April 19, 2014 at 08:53 PM (#4689383)
Unwritten rules strike again
   4. Benji Gil Gamesh Rises Posted: April 19, 2014 at 08:57 PM (#4689385)
Whiny and deeply stupid. Fine him.
   5. JE (Jason) Posted: April 19, 2014 at 09:14 PM (#4689390)
I asked Porter about the incident this morning, and he said what he’d said yesterday, “The game polices itself.”

Maybe I'm missing something, but Clemens is the moron here, not Porter, who was merely standing up for his young pitcher.
   6. Baseballs Most Beloved Figure Posted: April 19, 2014 at 09:57 PM (#4689406)
So if Porter put all his fielders in the outfield would Lowrie be breaking an unwritten rule by hitting a ground ball?

   7. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: April 19, 2014 at 10:01 PM (#4689410)
I would not just be flabbergasted. I would also be gobsmacked, confounded, perplexed, stupefied, and agog. It is a travershamockery.
   8. Bug Selig Posted: April 19, 2014 at 10:08 PM (#4689416)
I liked Law's tweet on the subject - "Bo Porter should stop worrying about the unwritten rules until he learns the written ones."

Also, Matt Williams would be a much more believable keeper of "The Right Way" if he wasn't a lying, cheating hypocrite. A manager has much more potential to hurt a team than help it and Williams seems to be trying to have a huge effect.

   9. Dale Sams Posted: April 19, 2014 at 10:40 PM (#4689431)
The worst was when some announcers were carping about Shane Victorino trying to throw out a runner at first with a big lead.

Good God, Lemon.
   10. Walt Davis Posted: April 19, 2014 at 10:43 PM (#4689433)
Clemens is the moron here, not Porter, who was merely standing up for his young pitcher.

It's not clear. The reporter says Lowrie was flabbergasted by Porter's reaction but the quoted bit doesn't specify Porter. But if Porter was yelling and making it a big deal, it's Porter's fault. It's also not clear to me if Porter was yelling after the bunt or after the pitch.

So, yes, I guess you could interpret it as Porter wasn't annoyed at all after the bunt, Clemens later threw at Lowrie, Lowrie said something not nice to Clemens (or glared or whatever) and Porter reacted to that. But that's not how the reporter is presenting it.
   11. McCoy Posted: April 19, 2014 at 11:42 PM (#4689454)
IT is in the video. In the third Lowrie flies out after being thrown at twice in the at bat. Lowrie and Clemens talk about. Altuve comes over to calm things down and then Porter comes on to the field and starts yelling at Lowrie and telling him to go back to SS.
   12. Rob_Wood Posted: April 19, 2014 at 11:46 PM (#4689456)

my favorite part of the video is when the astros keep running into the dugout even as porter is running to the field to yell at lowrie -- that speaks volumes right there
   13. theboyqueen Posted: April 20, 2014 at 12:53 AM (#4689479)
I think everyone is being a bit unfair to Porter here. The Astros are a special-needs version of a baseball team. World-class, major league athletes giving full effort against them is essentially bullying. It is dickish behavior and deserves to be called out. Kudos to Porter for standing up for his guys.

Of course, the obvious solution is to grant every team that plays the Astros an automatic win. Then the games themselves become the fun exhibitions they deserve to be and no feelings get hurt. No need even to keep score!
   14. Tricky Dick Posted: April 20, 2014 at 09:58 AM (#4689554)

Righty Paul Clemens threw a pitch that went through Lowrie’s legs to start off Lowrie’s third inning at-bat. Clemens said the pitch was unintentional.

“Just a fastball, I cut it,” Clemens said. “That’s how I know I’m getting tired a little bit, I start cutting my pitches...
He gave me a free out, easy out. So I mean, any time you want to hand me a free out, I’ll take it. You know, from the etiquette standpoint, I’m not so sure about major league baseball, I haven’t been here long enough. I have no problem with it.”
   15. Infinite Joost (Voxter) Posted: April 20, 2014 at 10:36 AM (#4689559)
I asked Porter about the incident this morning, and he said what he’d said yesterday, “The game polices itself.”


This guy can absolutely go #### himself to death.
   16. spike Posted: April 20, 2014 at 11:15 AM (#4689570)
Porter is a fiery type

My favorite baseball-ism - insert "he's a redass" here.
   17. Pat Rapper's Delight Posted: April 20, 2014 at 11:41 AM (#4689584)
"Bo Porter should stop worrying about the unwritten rules until he learns the written ones."

Hah! Wasn't Porter the guy who somehow got away with being able to change relievers before one had pitched to a batter?
   18. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: April 20, 2014 at 11:43 AM (#4689586)
I would not just be flabbergasted. I would also be gobsmacked, confounded, perplexed, stupefied, and agog.


And yet not flummoxed?
   19. Infinite Joost (Voxter) Posted: April 20, 2014 at 12:20 PM (#4689603)
Nonplussed.
   20. cercopithecus aethiops Posted: April 20, 2014 at 12:42 PM (#4689622)
I might be miffed, and perhaps mildly disconcerted, but this really doesn't seem to rise to the level of discombobulation.
   21. McCoy Posted: April 20, 2014 at 12:56 PM (#4689631)
But certainly bamboozled.
   22. Jolly Old St. Nick Is A Jolly Old St. Crip Posted: April 20, 2014 at 01:14 PM (#4689641)
Now that the Astros have lost Lisa's loyalty by moving to the DH League, is there any good reason other than scheduling symmetry why they just don't fold the franchise and get it over with?
   23.   Posted: April 20, 2014 at 01:27 PM (#4689648)
I really wish teams that whine about these sorts of things would just forfeit. If you're complaining that the other team is "running up the score," then you are already admitting defeat. The best way to make sure no more runs are scored against you is to just forfeit the game. This would be far preferable to me to this fucking crying.
   24. steagles Posted: April 20, 2014 at 01:27 PM (#4689649)
Now that the Astros have lost Lisa's loyalty by moving to the DH League, is there any good reason other than scheduling symmetry why they just don't fold the franchise and get it over with?
seriously?

revenue sharing.
   25. Hal Chase School of Professionalism Posted: April 21, 2014 at 11:29 AM (#4690199)
Now that the Astros have lost Lisa's loyalty by moving to the DH League,


Who is Lisa pulling for these days? Has her baseball experience just turned into a nonplussed, bamboozled, vagabond wandering in the desert, accepting whatever baseball Joe Buck sees fit to provide?

Because, if so, that sucks as badly as rooting for the 'Stros.
   26. theboyqueen Posted: April 21, 2014 at 11:37 AM (#4690211)
Does Houston actually RECEIVE revenue sharing money? How the heck is Houston a small market?
   27. Walt Davis Posted: April 21, 2014 at 09:09 PM (#4690708)
Now that the Astros have lost Lisa's loyalty by moving to the DH League, is there any good reason other than scheduling symmetry why they just don't fold the franchise and get it over with?

But their farm system is stacked! If everything breaks right and they sign a few of the right FAs and swing some really good trades, they could be over 500 in 5-6 years!

Is there a superstar #1 pick slated for the 2015 draft? Cuz the Astros, DBacks and Cubs are promising to give us a very exciting race to the bottom. (In fairness, the Cubs haven't sucked quite as badly as their record indicates.)
   28. base ball chick Posted: April 21, 2014 at 10:01 PM (#4690760)
Hal Chase School of Professionalism Posted: April 21, 2014 at 11:29 AM (#4690199)
Now that the Astros have lost Lisa's loyalty by moving to the DH League,


Who is Lisa pulling for these days? Has her baseball experience just turned into a nonplussed, bamboozled, vagabond wandering in the desert, accepting whatever baseball Joe Buck sees fit to provide?

Because, if so, that sucks as badly as rooting for the 'Stros


- well, really i root for whatever NL team any particular ex-stro i happen to like is playing that night on a game i can watch (free mlb.tv)
and the braves/cards/brewers
not the dodgers cuz they got too much $$$
not the dbax while that jerk gibson is running things
not the marlins because jeffrey loria needs to be ****ed sideways with a jackhammer for showing jim crane how to make kabillions from a low paid team that stinks like a 5 day old corpse


houston is the 4th largest city in america. somehow, it has got explained that we have only the 10th or 12th largest MEDIA market and the ****wad owner has managed to whittle that down to smallest market outside of miami

and has gotten what is left of the fans and the stat geeks to explain how wonderful that he pockets 50 mill a year because the major league team wouldn't be any good anyway if he put actual major leaguers on the field and isn't it just WONDerful how this capitalist makes money by having lots of minor leaguers who aren't paid spit

right now, the dabx are winning the race of suckage. makes me smile because i hate gibson. but i got faith that the astros can win the race to the bottom as usual. i mean, 4-peat is quite a feat

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