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Saturday, March 15, 2014

A’s starters Jarrod Parker, A.J. Griffin likely out to start season - Oakland Athletics : The Drumbeat

Pitchers getting hurt.

Major news, and not good, for the A’s today: projected Opening Day starter Jarrod Parker is likely to miss the start of the season because of a forearm injury; Parker will visit orthopedist Dr. James Andrews in Alabama on Monday. And A.J. Griffin, the team’s No. 4 starter, will see Dr. Doug Freedberg in Scottsdale today because of elbow discomfort.

Jim Furtado Posted: March 15, 2014 at 08:38 AM | 17 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: a.j. griffin, athletics, injuries, jarrod parker

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   1. The Yankee Clapper Posted: March 15, 2014 at 02:36 PM (#4672114)
Opening Day starter Jarrod Parker is likely to miss the start of the season because of a forearm injury; Parker will visit orthopedist Dr. James Andrews in Alabama on Monday. And A.J. Griffin, the team’s No. 4 starter, will see Dr. Doug Freedberg in Scottsdale today because of elbow discomfort.

That sounds like more than the start of the season.
   2. Rickey! That's nonsense and you should know better Posted: March 15, 2014 at 02:44 PM (#4672116)
Elbow ligament surgeries by franchise, since 2007: (h/t to Sansho over at Braves Journal)

0 – none
1 – TBR
2 – COL, LAA, MIL, PIT
3 – CHW, CIN, MIA, MIN, NYY, WAS
4 – CHC, SDP, DET, HOU, SEA, SFG, TEX
5 – ARI, NYM, BAL, BOS, CLE, PHI, STL
6 – KCR, LAD, TOR
7 – none
8 – OAK
9 – none
10 – none
11 – ATL

Both Oakland and Atlanta now have two potential new surgeries as well.
   3. Jim Wisinski Posted: March 15, 2014 at 03:56 PM (#4672151)
The Rays are up to 2 now, prospect Taylor Guerreri had it last year. The one listed above was also in the minors, Jake McGee. A big part of their success, though it doesn't get commented on much (or if it's mentioned it's sometimes brushed off as "good fortune"), is that they're outstanding at keeping their starting pitchers healthy. They even coaxed 544 league average innings out of Jeff Niemann's Rice-shredded shoulder.
   4. Tom (and his broom) Posted: March 15, 2014 at 04:06 PM (#4672155)
Would love to see that least but just for pitchers who had been part of the rotation. It seems like every young A's starter has either been traded or injured.
   5. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: March 15, 2014 at 04:13 PM (#4672157)
Oh yea, remember the days on the A's when everyone got hurt like all the time? Good times.
   6. Jim (jimmuscomp) Posted: March 15, 2014 at 11:17 PM (#4672254)
Michael Kohn and who for the Angels....

   7. Brian White Posted: March 16, 2014 at 01:20 AM (#4672268)
Both Oakland and Atlanta now have two potential new surgeries as well.


If I read Sansho's post right, Atlanta's figure includes the two current injuries for Medlen and Beachy. So Oakland might actually be within shouting distance of Atlanta in that category soon.

Still, that looks like a nice bell curve, with two huge outliers. I have a hard time chalking up that many injuries to luck.
   8. Bourbon Samurai in America Posted: March 16, 2014 at 10:56 AM (#4672320)
Well good thing they replaced colon wih noted workhorse Scott kazmir
   9. Ivan Grushenko of Hong Kong Posted: March 16, 2014 at 11:01 AM (#4672322)
The idea that Brett Anderson would have been one of the only healthy starters on the team amuses and annoys me.
   10. morineko Posted: March 16, 2014 at 11:01 AM (#4672323)
I have a hard time chalking up that many injuries to luck.


Maybe it's drafting/signing college pitchers? Medlen was a junior draft, Beachy was an undrafted senior. O'Flaherty was a high school pick but from the Mariners and he already had some injury history by the time the Braves got him. With Moylan, you may be able to say it was overwork, but he has those oddball mechanics too.

On the A's end, Andrew Carignan was a junior draft who almost never pitched multiple-inning outings at the pro level. Griffin's another senior draft (but not broken fully yet.) Parker was drafted out of high school but he spent 3 seasons in the Arizona system so probably came pre-broken. Who knows. I'm trying to think of the other broken pitchers right now and am drawing a blank.
   11. Ivan Grushenko of Hong Kong Posted: March 16, 2014 at 11:15 AM (#4672328)
Parker was drafted out of high school but he spent 3 seasons in the Arizona system so probably came pre-broken. Who knows. I'm trying to think of the other broken pitchers right now and am drawing a blank.

Well Parker already has one TJS under his belt, and one reason the Diamondbacks were willing to trade him for a more expensive guy with lower upside was the injury history presumably. A's took the health risk and the Diamondbacks took the financial risk. A's strategy seems to be accepting more health risk in exchange for greater upside and/or lower cost -- see Dillon Overton and Scott Kazmir or go back to Brad Sullivan and Brandon McCarthy.
   12. theboyqueen Posted: March 16, 2014 at 11:18 AM (#4672330)
What is interesting about that list is that bit doesn't seem to correlate at all with overall team starting pitching performance. It's seems that the A's treat starters as fungible assets with some sort of endless supply only they seem to be able to access.
   13. Avoid running at all times.-S. Paige Posted: March 16, 2014 at 11:33 AM (#4672337)
It's seems that the A's treat starters as fungible assets with some sort of endless supply only they seem to be able to access.


The ballpark and team fielding does help, I would think, but, yeah, there always seems to be a soft-tossing perfectly cromulent starter ready at a moment's notice.
   14. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: March 16, 2014 at 11:48 AM (#4672346)
It's seems that the A's treat starters as fungible assets

I'll have to get Francesa to splain that to me
   15. JJ1986 Posted: March 16, 2014 at 12:15 PM (#4672353)
Add 1 to the Diamondbacks total. Pat Corbin has UCL damage.
   16. theboyqueen Posted: March 16, 2014 at 01:23 PM (#4672372)
I'll have to get Francesa to splain that to me


Who is Francesa?
   17. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: March 16, 2014 at 02:11 PM (#4672397)

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