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Astros beat Yankees to force Game 7 in ALCS | MLB.com

The Verlander trade has worked out well for the Astros.

Jim Furtado Posted: October 21, 2017 at 07:49 AM | 22 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: astros, playoffs, yankees

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   1. DaVoice of DaPeople Posted: October 21, 2017 at 01:47 PM (#5559544)
Last night the announcer noted that Justin Verlander was 9 and 0 since being acquired by the Astros.

Last night’s announcer further noted that 30 years ago in similar circumstances a pitcher named Doyle Alexander did the same thing, going 9 and 0 after the Tigers acquired him at the deadline.

Last night’s announcer was John Smoltz.
   2. Rennie's Tenet Posted: October 21, 2017 at 02:10 PM (#5559547)
Someone on MLB radio this morning was going over similar information, except about a pitcher named Alexander Doyle.
   3. Rennie's Tenet Posted: October 21, 2017 at 02:12 PM (#5559548)
What odds I can find today seem to have Houston favored tonight.
   4. The Yankee Clapper Posted: October 21, 2017 at 02:19 PM (#5559550)
Houston has won all its home games in the ALCS, but they were all started by Keuchel or Verlander, until today. Hoping that matters.
   5. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: October 21, 2017 at 02:19 PM (#5559551)
4 terrific mid season pickups that come to mind.

Verlander 9-0 including playoffs (5-0 in regular season)
Alexander 9-2 including playoffs (9-0 in regular season)
Randy Johnson 10-3 including playoffs (10-1 in regular season)
Sabathia 11-3 including playoffs (11-2 in regular season)

Alexander did not pitch well in losing 2 in playoffs. Johnson pitched very well, 3 ER in 14 IP, but lost 2 anyway). Sabathia did not pitch well in his loss.

Verlander had the least impressive regualr season, but by far the most impressive post season.
   6. John DiFool2 Posted: October 21, 2017 at 02:27 PM (#5559553)
Sutcliffe 16-1. 1-1 in the postseason...
   7. LA Podcasting Hombre of Anaheim Posted: October 21, 2017 at 02:29 PM (#5559554)
Someone on MLB radio this morning was going over similar information, except about a pitcher named Alexander Doyle.
I can't stop laughing at this.
   8. BDC Posted: October 21, 2017 at 02:38 PM (#5559557)
Also Duster Mails, 8-0 including a World Series win. The 1920 Indians acquired him at the start of September from the Sacramento Senators.

Mails' series win was a three-hit shutout. He threw six and 2/3 scoreless innings in another Series game, coming in after just one out in the first; but the starter had surrendered two runs, and the Indians would lose 2-1.

   9. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: October 21, 2017 at 02:50 PM (#5559561)
Sutcliffe 16-1. 1-1 in the postseason...


Of course.
   10. Tony S Posted: October 21, 2017 at 02:54 PM (#5559563)

It's a coin flip.

The Astros are at home, but the Yankees have the edge in the pitching matchup.



   11. DaVoice of DaPeople Posted: October 21, 2017 at 02:59 PM (#5559564)
I want every Astro to bunt while Sabathia is pitching. It would amuse me.
   12. Infinite Yost (Voxter) Posted: October 21, 2017 at 03:54 PM (#5559570)
All I really want is for Altuve and Judge to stand next to each other at some point.
   13. Nose army. Beef diaper? (CoB) Posted: October 21, 2017 at 04:01 PM (#5559574)
Can't imagine CC is going to go as deep in this one as the last ... wonder what the order is in the Yankees' bullpen ... I'm not sure I trust Robertson after last night, he looked pretty wiped out.
   14. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: October 21, 2017 at 04:18 PM (#5559576)
Just to make everyone feel better....

Astros and Yankees Take Some Shaky Memories Into Game 7

In Game 5, at the Astrodome, the Astros led by three runs in the eighth inning with Nolan Ryan on the mound. Yet the Phillies came back and went on to win the World Series.

In 1986, also at the Astrodome, the Astros held another three-run lead, this time over the Mets in the ninth inning. A victory would have set up Game 7 and shifted the edge to the Astros, who could use their ace, Mike Scott, whose suspiciously moving splitters had burrowed into the Mets’ psyche.

Yet the Mets, like the Phillies before them, stormed back to win the game and, eventually, the World Series.

Fast forward past a few swift exits in the division series, a seven-game loss to St. Louis in the 2004 N.L.C.S. and a sweep by the Chicago White Sox in the 2005 World Series. After beating the Yankees in the 2015 A.L. wild-card game, the Astros took a 6-2 lead into the eighth inning of Game 4 of their division series with the Kansas City Royals.

By now, you know the pattern. The Royals, who were facing elimination, came back to win the game. They, too, were soon World Series champions....

they played one, in 2004, they let a pennant — and a once-insurmountable three-games-to-none lead — slip away to the rival Red Sox. Nothing on Saturday could be as crushing as that.

FTR, the Yankees are 4-4 in 5 game Division Series, 2-2 in LCS's that went the limit, and 5-6 in 7 game World Series. And in all deciding postseason games they played on the road, they're 6 and 5, or 7 and 5 if you count the Dent game.
   15. Chris Fluit Posted: October 21, 2017 at 05:35 PM (#5559604)
Cone 10-2 (9-2 in the regular season)
   16. Jose is an Absurd Doubles Machine Posted: October 21, 2017 at 06:12 PM (#5559626)
I expect this to be a battle of the bullpens and I have a hard time seeing that end well for Houston.
   17. LA Podcasting Hombre of Anaheim Posted: October 21, 2017 at 07:04 PM (#5559644)
What, you don't think having Keuchel and Verlander pitching five innings today is a good idea?
   18. Shibal Posted: October 21, 2017 at 07:09 PM (#5559647)
The gambling line opened Houston -125, now at Houston -150. Essentially the odds say Houston has a 59-60% chance of advancing.

I certainly wouldn't bet Houston at those odds.
   19. Joe Bivens Will Take a Steaming Dump Posted: October 21, 2017 at 07:10 PM (#5559648)
I'm rooting for CC to do well, because I like him. I'd rather watch Houston play the Dodgers, though.
   20. The Yankee Clapper Posted: October 21, 2017 at 07:32 PM (#5559673)
A good start from Sabathia in a Yankee win would pretty much complete the narrative side of a Hall of Fame ledger. A couple more seasons might make the numbers look a bit better, too, clearing 250 wins & 65 WAR, although his ERA would still be a problem for some. Who wouldnt want to see bookended legends, Sabathia & Judge, do something extraordinary tonight?
   21. MNB Posted: October 22, 2017 at 09:41 AM (#5560061)
Sabathia did not pitch well in his loss.


If I remember correctly, he was on three days rest in that game, and had been pitching on short rest regularly for quite a while at that point to basically drag Milwaukee into the playoffs. I was watching that game and felt bad for him as it just seemed he was gassed after doing everything he could to get the team there.

*Edit: I just looked it up. After getting traded to Milwaukee, he made one start on six days rest, four on five days rest, nine on four days rest, and the final four (including the playoff game) on three days rest. That's some old school badassness right there.

*Edit: Oh, and nearly half those starts (seven) were complete games!
   22. Nero Wolfe, Indeed Posted: October 22, 2017 at 09:44 PM (#5560228)
A good start from Sabathia in a Yankee win would pretty much complete the narrative side of a Hall of Fame ledger. A couple more seasons might make the numbers look a bit better, too, clearing 250 wins & 65 WAR, although his ERA would still be a problem for some. Who wouldnt want to see bookended legends, Sabathia & Judge, do something extraordinary tonight?


More proof that the word "legend" gets thrown around too easily.

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